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Shit like this will also instantly cancel you if they get so much as a single bogus complaint. So it's great until you're swarmed with SJWs calling you a Nazi.
This is true, but you can have an "invisible link" on Lulu, you can have books printed and posted to whoever you want, but it won't be listed. The SJWs wouldn't know where the books were coming from.

I doubt Lulu employees have time to research everyone who uses their services, and I'd imagine it's automated anyway, that thebooks are printed and bound by the robots, and slapped into a printed envelope?
 
I did POD long before I did an IGG campaign. The customers aren't interested in it. They won't buy POD and they won't buy digital.
 
What am I missing? Surely if all the POD stufv is "behind the scenes" buyers wouldn't even know?
I think I missunderstood your question. You're saying to use it for fulfillment? I know some people who do. Ka-Blam has a service where they sell books print on demand from their online store and pay you a percentage. That's what I was talking about. I think this is a much more convientient system but it just didn't vibe with the audience.
 
I think I missunderstood your question. You're saying to use it for fulfillment? I know some people who do. Ka-Blam has a service where they sell books print on demand from their online store and pay you a percentage. That's what I was talking about. I think this is a much more convientient system but it just didn't vibe with the audience.
Fulfillment, that's the word I was looking for! Yeah, Lulu can be used for printing and dispatching, once the print files are ready. I just figured it saves doing print runs and post office trips. Customers can still buy through IGG, Lulu can be set so it doesn't have a cuatomer facing page.
 
This is true, but you can have an "invisible link" on Lulu, you can have books printed and posted to whoever you want, but it won't be listed. The SJWs wouldn't know where the books were coming from.

I doubt Lulu employees have time to research everyone who uses their services, and I'd imagine it's automated anyway, that thebooks are printed and bound by the robots, and slapped into a printed envelope?

People were able to get Chris-Chan kicked off in hours.
 
I looked through the interview between EVS and Peter to see if anything funny happen, but it was a fairly uneventful discussion. Well I guess EVS did acknowledge that they need more Colorers and Letterers in the group. Add writers to that list too frogman I did find this little gem of a superchat at the end though.

Years of dedicated service and support? Holy shit, could they deepthroat the CG dick any harder? I bought my fair share of CG comics, but treating it like you did time in the army is sad. Just ask for a plug like a normal person.
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Forgot this was happening today, but Fraga launched Black Flag and in roughly the first 12 hours, made over $50k. Yeah, that's about right for an old pro that's a friend of EVS. Should break 100k no problem. Goddamn does this book scream 90's though,
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And Ya Boi Zack got a small mention on the Joe Rogan show. It's timestamped at 02:12:14

 
I looked through the interview between EVS and Peter to see if anything funny happen, but it was a fairly uneventful discussion. Well I guess EVS did acknowledge that they need more Colorers and Letterers in the group. Add writers to that list too frogman I did find this little gem of a superchat at the end though.

Years of dedicated service and support? Holy shit, could they deepthroat the CG dick any harder? I bought my fair share of CG comics, but treating it like you did time in the army is sad. Just ask for a plug like a normal person.
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You can hardly blame him. There is so much talk about loyalty, "grabbing an oar" (service) and public declarations of fealty to ComicsGate (support) in the CG rhetoric and Ethan's circle that it only stands to reason less subtle people like this goof would unironically supplicate themselves at Caesar's feet like this.

That is after all what ComicsGate is about in 2020.
 
People were able to get Chris-Chan kicked off in hours.
I'm not a 100% up on that, but wasn't that a copyright thing? More about the license holders for Sonic/Pokemon?

Saying that, I think that a lot of CG don't support POD is because:

(a) the audience is buying into a 90s-esque speculation bubble - paying premium for what they believe will be collectable investments,
(b) POD is actively discouraged because it might mean the big-names actually have to bring a completed project to market before actually getting any cash for it, and
(c) the entire CG business model is based on these month-long, stream-to-stream, fundraising marathons where it's all about the hype-to-reach the target, the buzz in YT Chat, and the race against the closing date. In a lot of ways this model is more about buying into an event rather than buying a comic.
 
Forgot this was happening today, but Fraga launched Black Flag and in roughly the first 12 hours, made over $50k. Yeah, that's about right for an old pro that's a friend of EVS. Should break 100k no problem. Goddamn does this book scream 90's though,
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And Ya Boi Zack got a small mention on the Joe Rogan show. It's timestamped at 02:12:14

There were a few on twitter claiming FRAGABOOM(er) would hit 6 figures in under 24 hours, which I thought he might have a decent chance of doing since his a former industry pro with a direct line to EVS. Still over 50K on your first day is quite an achievement, personally though I'll probably skip this campaign. I'm getting a little burnt out on crowdfunders and I dumped over $100 on BFB2 yesterday and nabbed the complete Lady Death Collection before that.

Dan Fraga seems like a nice enough dude, hopefully he remains grounded and doesn't go full retard on internet drama like a certain other former DC artist. I'm 50/50 on his art style, it looks nice but with too much crammed into it, it starts to look a like mess. Does he have any writing credits at DC? I'm starting to become skeptical on some of these industry artists and their abilities to actually tell a good story lately.
 
Yeah these comic campaigns are competing with me wanting another pile of unbuilt warhammer/gundam. With the state of country, I'm spending more money on stuff to occupy my time right now.
 
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And Ya Boi Zack got a small mention on the Joe Rogan show. It's timestamped at 02:12:14

Well, people still like Zack. Compared to the rest of CG, he's the one who has a real story. EVS's story shifts like a genderbending trend to whatever sympathy he wants to pedal from people.

Does he have any writing credits at DC? I'm starting to become skeptical on some of these industry artists and their abilities to actually tell a good story lately.

Dan Fragga worked on Dragonball Evolution. He does talk about the process sometime into the livestream he had with Liam. Don't think it was entirely his fault, but he mentions James Wong was gonna be the director and all, and I'm skeptical about James Wong as shit. The guy isn't exactly that great of a director. I've seen his works from Guyver to Kamen Rider Dragon Knight, and they're mediocre attempts at replicating the Tokusatsu magic that Japan has.

Fragga also seemed stoned and couldn't maintain an elevator pitch for his Black Flag story to the point where I was zoning out because his voice was just so monotonous.

EDIT: I mistook James Wong for Steve Wang, who is the guy who did the Tokusatsu imitation shitfest that was Guyver and Kamen Rider Dragon Knight. James Wong did one Final Destination movie.
 
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Well, people still like Zack. Compared to the rest of CG, he's the one who has a real story. EVS's story shifts like a genderbending trend to whatever sympathy he wants to pedal from people.



Dan Fragga worked on Dragonball Evolution. He does talk about the process sometime into the livestream he had with Liam. Don't think it was entirely his fault, but he mentions James Wong was gonna be the director and all, and I'm skeptical about James Wong as shit. The guy isn't exactly that great of a director. I've seen his works from Guyver to Kamen Rider Dragon Knight, and they're mediocre attempts at replicating the Tokusatsu magic that Japan has.

Fragga also seemed stoned and couldn't maintain an elevator pitch for his Black Flag story to the point where I was zoning out because his voice was just so monotonous.

EDIT: I mistook James Wong for Steve Wang, who is the guy who did the Tokusatsu imitation shitfest that was Guyver and Kamen Rider Dragon Knight. James Wong did one Final Destination movie.

Zack was the one who really perfected his brand of critical commentary of modern progressive comics. In the end I think he'll still be known primarily for that than for his highly derivative and comparatively mundane comic book contributions which for better or worse are now swallowed up in EVS branding. EVS' best technical work seems to be behind him and his TMNT/Battletoads ripoff IP doesn't hold any substantial appeal outside of the CG drama, which is really EVS centered. As much as it might have been irresistible for Preston to swipe the CG label, it's already been poisoned by the EVS crew. I'm also not super thrilled that in order to have an anti-EVS CG, he's using the image of an SJW with a sledgehammer on the new logo. Funny in context, but a decent brand it is not.

The quality of the work has to take front stage. The Fraga stuff does have an immediate appeal to it that the other properties haven't had so far and if he manages not to get irretrievably wrapped up with EVS's ever shrinking pool of professional allies, he may have the best shot at creating something with lasting appeal. Kudos to him if that happens. But I have to be fair: outside of being better than SJW Marvel or DC, there really hasn't been a really strong IP that has the potential to grab the popular imagination. EVS can surround himself with the worst kind of adult humor for the worst kind of biker gang tattoo parlors, but Cyberfrog ain't no Deadpool no matter how hard he tries. Bigfoot Bill will never look like anything other than a reskin of Earthworm Jim, and Jawbreakers will never be greater than a third rate GI Joe. They don't need to be in order to bring sufficient success to their owners, but they would if you were trying to make the case that CG is THE FUTURE OF COMICS. Give me a break, guys.
 
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Zack was the one who really perfected his brand of critical commentary of modern progressive comics. In the end I think he'll still be known primarily for that than for his highly derivative and comparatively mundane comic book contributions which for better or worse are now swallowed up in EVS branding. EVS' best technical work seems to be behind him and his TMNT/Battletoads ripoff IP doesn't hold any substantial appeal outside of the CG drama, which is really EVS centered. As much as it might have been irresistible for Preston to swipe the CG label, it's already been poisoned by the EVS crew. I'm also not super thrilled that in order to have an anti-EVS CG, he's using the image of an SJW with a sledgehammer on the new logo. Funny in context, but a decent brand it is not.

The quality of the work has to take front stage. The Fraga stuff does have an immediate appeal to it that the other properties haven't had so far and if he manages not to get irretrievably wrapped up with EVS's ever shrinking pool of professional allies, he may have the best shot at creating something with lasting appeal. Kudos to him if that happens. But I have to be fair: outside of being better than SJW Marvel or DC, there really hasn't been a really strong IP that has the potential to grab the popular imagination. EVS can surround himself with the worst kind of adult humor for the worst kind of biker gang tattoo parlors, but Cyberfrog ain't no Deadpool no matter how hard he tries. Bigfoot Bill will never look like anything other than a reskin of Earthworm Jim, and Jawbreakers will never be greater than a third rate GI Joe. They don't need to be in order to bring sufficient success to their owners, but they would if you were trying to make the case that CG is THE FUTURE OF COMICS. Give me a break, guys.

Fraga's character naming sense is already way off-putting for me tbh. "Sniper", "Bubble", "Geisha" (oh boy, not gonna get into how this comes off as SJW-outrage bait, because it is a bad name to even consider) and whatever else is all just generic-tier naming sense. There might be more to his story, but to be honest, sometimes, you can just look at the naming sense of characters and tell it's going to be uninspiring.

His art on the other hand, I can kind of stand behind. It looks good. Be better if he worked with a writer who can utilize his artistic skills better though. In fact, all of the fuckers in CG need to set aside this ego of doing books alone and being portrayed as the sole champion profiteer of it. Work with the artist/writer, and you each decide how much you really contributed narrative wise, and how much the art affected how the visual narrative came out, then split the difference there. It ain't that hard. But what the heck do these guys know about quantifying things when it comes to their quality?
 
Fraga's character naming sense is already way off-putting for me tbh. "Sniper", "Bubble", "Geisha" (oh boy, not gonna get into how this comes off as SJW-outrage bait, because it is a bad name to even consider) and whatever else is all just generic-tier naming sense. There might be more to his story, but to be honest, sometimes, you can just look at the naming sense of characters and tell it's going to be uninspiring.

His art on the other hand, I can kind of stand behind. It looks good. Be better if he worked with a writer who can utilize his artistic skills better though. In fact, all of the fuckers in CG need to set aside this ego of doing books alone and being portrayed as the sole champion profiteer of it. Work with the artist/writer, and you each decide how much you really contributed narrative wise, and how much the art affected how the visual narrative came out, then split the difference there. It ain't that hard. But what the heck do these guys know about quantifying things when it comes to their quality?

Heh, well you might be right with the names. The polemic may prove to be inescapable at first, but visual appeal is by far the greatest hook these characters can have and right now Fraga seems to have the best part of that (at least for me). As long as his characters can't be reduced to simple CG allegories, they'll be ok. It might take way more than that to break out of this bubble. If the new independent scene really does take over, we'll probably see a lot of stagnation in character development because the original creators will be holding onto their IPs to the extent that new creative teams won't be allowed to add their own touches over the years.
 
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Minor power level I think, I have the 94 Black Flag comic so what exactly is Fraga selling with this IGG? Cause best I can tell the IGG is just a recolor reprint of the original. Frankly paying $25 plus shipping for a reprint of a comic I paid cover price & tax for is not a good deal. Ugh just remembered the original comic was more a pinup/sketchbook than an actual story.
 
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