Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

TamarYaelBatYah said:
In short, he encourages people to sin by preaching the false doctrine of unconditional forgiveness, which is not actually the way Elohim operates

I wrote a paper about this



Hm, I'll consider bringing my dad's story and all. I've been made aware that my dad's suicide has already been brought up by none other than The Stalker elsewhere here. That is a very personal part of my life and I'm not sure if it's necessary to make anymore of it public. I think it's very rude that The Stalker would even divulge this part of my life to the entire world.
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No one cares about your bullshit papers.

If I was your dad I'd have killed myself out of shame because of you too. Having a retarded slut for a daughter would be hard on any man. At least he can't feel it when you shame his memory daily.
 
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TamarYaelBatYah said:
You did not say that Elohim insisted. You said Sarah insisted and that Elohim was the provider.

Here's your answer to Genesis 17:20

"Why do the wicked prosper?
Why do the treacherous all thrive?
You planted them, and they took root;
they grow, and they bear fruit.
You are near in their mouths,
though far from their hearts."


As in the case of Ishmael, even though Elohim prospered him, that doesn't mean it was to form a covenant with him. Elohim prospers those outside of covenant to be a tool against The House of Israel. Genesis 17 clearly says the covenant is with the line of Sarah and Isaac. Genesis 16 clearly says that Ishmael was cursed with strife against the descendants of Israel. The fighting goes on even today.

Now I'll respond to your quotes about marriage and re-marriage:
Get your tin foil suits on because you're about to get roasted!

Deuteronomy 6:6-9 is about putting The Torah on your heart and teaching it to your children. Was that a typo?

I see you conveniently skipped everything else in The Torah that influences the subject of divorce.
Without understanding The Torah you are going to misunderstand The Messiah's words. Completely.

You quote Mark 10:11-12, Matthew 5:31-32, Matthew 19:1-12 for your support. You can't take Messiah's words out of context of The Torah. He came to uphold The Torah (Matthew 5:17-20). Heaven and earth are still here, and therefore, The Torah still stands, according to The Messiah.

It's necessary to post each of these verses you quoted to dissect them. I've underlined essential information:
I'll also use bold text to emphasize important information.

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Matthew 5:31-32:
"It was said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a get." But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of [Greek: pornea], makes her an adulteress; and that anyone who marries a divorcee commits adultery."

Matthew 19:1-12:
"Some P’rushim came and tried to trap him by asking, “Is it permitted for a man to divorce his wife on any ground whatever?” 4 He replied, “Haven’t you read that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female, and that he said, ‘For this reason a man should leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two are to become one flesh’? Thus they are no longer two, but one. So then, no one should split apart what Elohim has joined together.”They said to him, “Then why did Moshe give the commandment that a man should hand his wife a get and divorce her?” He answered, “Moshe allowed you to divorce your wives because your hearts are so hardened. But this is not how it was at the beginning. Now what I say to you is that whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of [Greek: pornea], and marries another woman commits adultery!”"

Mark 10:11-12
"He said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against his wife; and if a wife divorces her husband and marries another man, she too commits adultery.”

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So firstly, let me point out what is obvious: THIS WAS A DEBATE ABOUT THE TORAH between The Messiah and The Pharisees. They were not debating secular documents, the Talmud nor the Christian Bible. They were debating The Torah.
Mark 10 11-12 is predicated by the following verse (Verse 2): "Some P’rushim came up and tried to trap him by asking him, “Does the Torah permit a man to divorce his wife?" So again, it's clearly obvious that this debate between The Messiah and the people he argued with was about THE TORAH.

So in order to understand what The Messiah is saying, you have to go back to The Torah.

The first most important essential underlined information above is about Moses. The Messiah said "Moses allowed you to divorce your wives...". Why is that an important detail? Because Moses sat as a Judge over The House of Israel (Exodus 18:13). He had the power to issue decrees and order the people. This goes back to Deuteronomy 11:1 were they were ordered to listen to Elohim's commissions (people he put in charge) and also to listen to the judges over them (Deut. 1:16). Moses' ruling was that divorce was allowed.

Why would Moses say that? Because any sin done in willful defiance of The Torah resulted in permanent excommunication (Numbers 15:30-31), therefore freeing the remaining spouse to be re-married within the community.

Then comes in The Messiah and says "Now I tell you..." (Matthew 19:9). That's when Messiah expressed that he was now Judge in the House of Israel.

His ruling that the only just cause divorce was/is PORNEA (that's the Greek word) (Matthew 5:31;19:9). The word PORNEA cannot mean "adultery" because the penalty in The Torah for adultery is death not divorce. PORNEA cannot mean "Sexual immorality" because there is no such concept in The Torah. The word "sexual immorality" is not a word in The Torah. The Torah condemns only five kinds of sexual acts with permanent excommunication: prostitution, incest, homosexuality, polygyny and having sex with a pagan (someone not of the House of Israel). Since there are 5 types of sexual acts that lead to permanent excommunication, none of them can qualify as PORNEA because the use of PORNEA in the sentence of The Messiah is a singular noun. Also, The Torah lists more than 25 sins which lead to excommunication, so it is illogical that those 5 would be isolated to allow divorce and not the others.

So then, WHAT is "pornea"?

The answer is in the Book of Ezra and Nehemiah. Read Chapters 9 and 10 of Ezra and Chapter 10 of Nehemiah. What did the children of Israel do in order to REPENT? They sent off their pagan husbands and pagan wives.

"We should make a covenant with our Elohim to send away all these wives, along with their children, in obedience to the advice of Adonai and of those who tremble at the mitzvah of our Elohim; let us act in accordance with the Torah" (Ezra 10:3)

This is why The Messiah said:

"“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father, his mother, his wife, his children, his brothers and his sisters, yes, and his own life besides, he cannot be my talmid." (Luke 14:26) (On a side note, the word there "wife" can also be translated "spouse" but I dont want to get into that right now)

HATE your own wife? Yes, that's what it says!

Pagans aren't considered people with rights in The Torah. You don't get the protection of not being divorced in The Torah without actually belonging to The House of Israel. In The Torah a "man" or "woman" was someone in The House of Israel. A pagan was not a "man" or "woman". Therefore, all of the statements of The Messiah about not leaving your husband or wife were between Israelites, not when an Israelite was yoked with a pagan. The same reason Abraham sent Hagar packing.

The Messiah upholds this by ALSO saying "What ELOHIM HAS JOINED TOGETHER....". not to separate (Matthew 19). Elohim doesn't join pagans and Israelites. An Israelite is COMMANDED to rid of their idolatrous spouse, by divorce, or even death in some cases (Deut. 13).

And that is why Paul is a false apostle who tells people to remain living with their pagans spouses.

I don't care what 1 Timothy says. It's a fabrication of false prophet's and their comrades. The other verses you posted from Psalms and Proverbs don't do anything to build a theology about divorce in The Torah. I'll not respond to those.

The point? You've failed miserably to demonstrate that Marshall or myself are adulterers. The Torah is about freedom from sin. Nobody is yoked to anybody's sin in The Torah, not even that of evil spouses.
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K. Anyways you're still a slut, Marshall is still a terrible father who doesn't support his innocent children and you're only mad about Paul bc you and Marshall don't want to be held to condemnation for being shitty people who make excuses to get out of their own religions' rules so you can practice serial monogamy. Stop picking pagans in the first place and you won't have to squirm around the rules to divorce them because you have buyers' remorse.

And you still cannot fucking read to save your life.
 
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On a side note, and a comical one:

I also saw in the same comment that The Stalker thinks that I chose Marshall because he supposedly looks like my first husband. Not true at all!

Ok, my first husband was Salvadorian and Marshall (my first true love!) is from Mexican descent. Those are two completely different Hispanic looks. Maybe to many people "they all look the same" but I can clearly see the difference in a Mexican and Salvadorian dude.
 
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TamarYaelBatYah said:
On a side note, and a comical one:

I also saw in the same comment that The Stalker thinks that I chose Marshall because he supposedly looks like my first husband. Not true at all!

Ok, my first husband was Salvadorian and Marshall (my first true love!) is from Mexican descent. Those are two completely different Hispanic looks. Maybe to many people "they all look the same" but I can clearly see the difference in a Mexican and Salvadorian dude.
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Literally no one cares.
 
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TamarYaelBatYah said:
I'm a gypsy in my heart and I make no apology for that.

You think you know The Prophets and The Law better than me? Go ahead, take a stab at it.
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An autistic gerbil knows the law better than you and any one of us here have read more of the Tanahk than you. Face it, you're an idiot and a complete failure in anything you attempt to do.
 
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TamarYaelBatYah said:
On a side note, and a comical one:

I also saw in the same comment that The Stalker thinks that I chose Marshall because he supposedly looks like my first husband. Not true at all!

Ok, my first husband was Salvadorian and Marshall (my first true love!) is from Mexican descent. Those are two completely different Hispanic looks. Maybe to many people "they all look the same" but I can clearly see the difference in a Mexican and Salvadorian dude.
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El Salvador is a shit hole full of rapists and MS-13 subhumans. I had the unfortunate experience of being there for a while. Let me guess he was from Ahuachapan or La Libertad, or some favela in San Salvador. No wonder you are attracted to the descendants of Mayan shithole people. Of course Mexicans and Salvadorans look different. Salvadorans are more Afro-Mayan and Mexicans like Marshall are Afro-Aztecs.
Is Ramon Carcamo the Salvadoran one?
Why do you like the word yoke?
 
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TamarYaelBatYah said:
So by your logic Native Americans who didn't have W2s and paper currency didn't have "jobs" or "work", huh?
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Bitch, I don't have any idea what you're on about. I'm assuming it has something to do with some karen-fest you had in court. Let me make some things clear-

-I don't care about native Americans
-I don't care about any Americans for that matter
-I don't care about American laws, nor do I need to
-America is an insignificant looney toon land nobody cares about
-all I care is that people follow some basic morals that are pretty much universal--don't murder, don't attack, don't incite violence and don't ever ever rape. Pretty simple.

-I don't care if you follow the torah. You believe what you want, it's your right. Ypu can believe aliens are sending lasers to your brain for all I care, but if you want the right to believe what you want you had better follow the morals in my previous point

That said, fuck your country, fuck your Karen trips in court, and fuck you and your spousal rape. Go fuck yourself, maybe then you'd be less of a patriarchy - sucking whore
 
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SS Reichsmarshall said:
El Salvador is a shit hole full of rapists and MS-13 subhumans. I had the unfortunate experience of being there for a while. Let me guess he was from Ahuachapan or La Libertad, or some favela in San Salvador. No wonder you are attracted to the descendants of Mayan shithole people. Of course Mexicans and Salvadorans look different. Salvadorans are more Afro-Mayan and Mexicans like Marshall are Afro-Aztecs.
Is Ramon Carcamo the Salvadoran one?
Why do you like the word yoke?
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You also just described Calgary by the way, I guess wherever they go because a rapist shithole. Also, Marshal isn't Mexican. Just a white guy with a tan.

Spergichu said:
But aren't Gypsies pagan?
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Depends on the region they're in.
 
fnaarf said:
Carstensen/Castersen is a German or Nordic last name. Unless his daddy knocked up a beaner I'm also* not seeing the Mexican ancestry.

* a word
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Quite a lot of Castersen's out in Australia. All quite good looking and successful I might add. I guess Marshall is the black sheep in the family since he's neither.
 
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fnaarf said:
Carstensen/Castersen is a German or Nordic last name. Unless his daddy knocked up a beaner I'm also* not seeing the Mexican ancestry.

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You're right. Marshall looks just like a member of the Hitler Youth straight from 1938. Very Aryan. He says he hates Anglos, but he is one himself. Must be self hatred.
 
fnaarf said:
Is that a yes on the eviction thing? Good job, I'm proud of you. Also you know gypsy's a slur now right
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Yes I know that the correct term is "Roma". But "Gypsy" can be used positively. I listen to Shakira, guess that's why I use it positively

No on the eviction though



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Literally no one cares.
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Well, Marshall reads both threads. Just making sure to send my love out to him while he's reading.

Hi Marshall!
 
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