The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

The Full exceptional individual decision was entirely Druckman's decision.

God of War really didn't have anything like that. it looks like Horizon is removing the fugly characters and fixing the lore so the Nora Tribe doesn't come off as feminist tryhard.

God of War was the mildest, but it was there just by virtue of the fact that they toned down the sex and violence from the prior games.

There's also a pretty cringey moment when after Kratos finally kills Baldur for good Mimir says "that was a tough decision you had to make" almost like they were trying to reassure SJWs from freaking out over a violent moment.

For the PS4 Spider-Man game I hated how fugly Mary Jane and Black Cat were, Miles Morales didn't need to be there and some of the humor was cringey.

Nothing that really ruined the games, but according to info Last of Us 2 didn't start full development until fall of 2017, so well into the Trump era and this is what you get from western AAA game development within the Trump era, just totally deranged bullshit.
 
For those speculating the game was delayed to change the story, I doubt that. With a film, it's easy to reshoot scenes and drop them into Final Cut. With a game it's much more difficult. Not only do you have to record the voice work, you have to make new animations, test the game, and maybe redesign levels.

Games that had last minute rewrites included Destiny, which had over a year to re-edit the story and it wasn't until the sequel that the content shown in the trailers was finally in the game, and Mass Effect 3 which needs no explanation. I don't see Sony making serious changes to the story in 3 months. Maybe cutting a scene or changing some dialogue, but nothing more than that.

More likely is what another person said earlier in the thread. COVID shut down the factories manufacturing the discs and they don't know when they'll be ready. The same has happened to the PC Engine mini.

I think now is a good time. Do you think that the game will do well critically? What do you predict the Metascore to be?
Hard to say. I think critics will like the game if Sony starts handing out the payola or game journos stick with the "entitle gamergate" narrative, or it will get a mixed reaction with people liking or hating the LGBT+ themes.

Why do I get the feeling wokeness will be to the 2010s-2020s what edginess was to the 90s-2000s only cringier and even more dated?
I think it will be seen as more of a 2010s thing, but I agree. Hipsters fashion will even be seen like tie die is to hippies.

The last ten years have been like a genocide, but for IP's. What I don't get is why they keep handing the reins to people intent on poisoning one multimillion dollar franchise after another. Seriously asking, how does this keep happening? Has the rot set in too deeply?
I think companies have learned their lesson on that and what we're seeing now is the tail end of that trend. As for why they kept doing it. Greed and naivety. Greed because they were told fans will buy dog shit in a bag if it has a big name licence on it but going woke will make women and minorities buy it, and naivety because some genuinely believe in the cause.

When it doesn't work, there's always an excuse why it didn't work. "It was gamergate!", "It was the alt-right!", "We didn't go woke enough!". Naughty Dog can blame the failure of TLOU2 on the leaks and Covid.

I know right? I had the same problem with Sherry Birkin in RE 6...dude, last time we saw her she wasnt older than 10, stop putting her in those outfits!
Sherry at least made sense. It had been 10-15 years since we saw her last I think. I never understood those people who complain every time any of the Harry Potter cast are shown doing anything adult like drinking, smoking, or are in a film with a sex scene. Harry Potter was 20 years ago, the actors in those films aren't kids any more.

I skimmed through the script, and I actually liked the idea of a story perspective from a family member / friend of one of the hundreds/thousands of people you kill along the way in one of these games. So its not just like borderlands where there's endless empty mooks.
That idea was stupid and old hat by the time XKCD suggested it.

Pretty sure Bethesda blacklisted them over that Fallout 4 leak though. Wish more companies would do that to journalists leaking stuff.
 
Theres a fine line between muscular women and ugly dudes with vaginas.
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absolute qt, would cuddle with, 10/10 death by snu snu

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asks for spare change, calls all men weak and is secretly sad nobody would cuddle her, takes out aggression and daddy issues on anyone, 1/10 would suggest therapy sessions

I've seen bigger, that said she's like 5 ft tall.

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Fuck Rin Nakai is my weakness.

That said she's is a professional fighter that has a very specific workout routine, diet, obviously uses a bunch of supplements (and probably straight up steroids considering they're lax for testing in Japanese MMA) & has dedicated her life to maintaining that physique. There's another fighter called Gabi Garcia who has a similar build but she's a freak of nature who also is juiced to her eyeballs.

I suppose you could find heavy things to lift in the post-apocalypse & I don't doubt a hard life would leave you fit but that bitch we see in the pics is ridiculous.
 
They should just delay the game to next year and do what they can to salvage it.
The Sonic movie comes to mind. But that would also mean that the already overworked ND staff will be forced to work themselves to death.
The Last Of Us is a very important IP for Sony. The opening of the first game was featured on almost every single YouTube Lets Play channel. Taking a step back and considering the backlash from the leaks is a good argument for reworking the story. It‘d be the last chance to save face.
But we‘re talking about video games here, short term profit is all they care about.
 
The Sonic movie comes to mind. But that would also mean that the already overworked ND staff will be forced to work themselves to death.
The Last Of Us is a very important IP for Sony. The opening of the first game was featured on almost every single YouTube Lets Play channel. Taking a step back and considering the backlash from the leaks is a good argument for reworking the story. It‘d be the last chance to save face.
But we‘re talking about video games here, short term profit is all they care about.

A year/year+ should give them enough time to rework the game without having to work themselves to death, wouldn't it?

I could be totally wrong about that though.
 
The studio who worked on Sonics redesign were crunching the entire year and had to close once they were done.
I‘d give it 2 years. Neil Druckmann is giving me the same vibe as the people who drove TellTale to the ground, hiring loads of unqualified people to meet their diversity quota.
 
I loved 4 as well despite a few flaws.

I wanted to believe in Druckmann, I wanted to believe in Naughty Dog, I feel so betrayed.



That really bothered me as well, Nadine was an entirely pointless character.

They could have easily done a redemption arc, she starts off as the secondary antagonist until learning the error of her ways and maybe she winds up helping Nathan Drake out.

But nope, she fucks off near the end of the game and that's it, that's just plain bad writing.
I also liked Uncharted 4 but in the end what saved it was the established cast and voice actors playing well against each other. The plot was extremely basic and based on people never doing their research on their phones (or having their GPS on for some insane reason). It also suffered hard from protagonist centred morality, since there is no evil person to stop from harming others, just stopping a rich person getting richer which only works in videogame-land due to firefights being treated as pub brawls rather than traumatic and dangerous experience.

Nadine is a character that's literally the case of flipping a gender makes a standard villain sympathetic for no reason. Leading a modern mercenary group is near universally a villainous role in every game, but having a vagina apperantly means that you were one of the good ones who never executed civilians in cold blood (despite the fact that over the course of the game Nadine's troops shoot up a city which is 100% beyond redemption for any group).
 
The worst part of this is that the shitshow surrounding Part 2 will scar the first game's reputation. I love TLOU. I think it's fantastic. Doing a Grounded difficulty playthrough right now, and no matter how many times I stealth kill somebody (I fucking hate Pittsburg) I keep thinking, "Joel is going to die. My baby girl Ellie is gonna get her skull cracked open by a troon,"

Same thing has happened so many times. One shitty woke installment fucks the entire franchise.
 
That said she's is a professional fighter that has a very specific workout routine, diet, obviously uses a bunch of supplements (and probably straight up steroids considering they're lax for testing in Japanese MMA)

I think shes juicing as she gets older, you can hear the drop in tone of her voice.
 
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One thing that's really funny is how reality is reflecting fiction right now.

The Fireflies were a leftist flavored group so far up their own ass they were willing to kill Ellie to serve their agenda, now Naughty Dog is a leftist flavored group so far up their own ass they are willing to kill Ellie to serve their own agenda.

It's like pottery.

The studio who worked on Sonics redesign were crunching the entire year and had to close once they were done.
I‘d give it 2 years. Neil Druckmann is giving me the same vibe as the people who drove TellTale to the ground, hiring loads of unqualified people to meet their diversity quota.

Take as long as they need, just release a good game instead of this shit.

The worst part of this is that the shitshow surrounding Part 2 will scar the first game's reputation. I love TLOU. I think it's fantastic. Doing a Grounded difficulty playthrough right now, and no matter how many times I stealth kill somebody (I fucking hate Pittsburg) I keep thinking, "Joel is going to die. My baby girl Ellie is gonna get her skull cracked open by a troon,"

Same thing has happened so many times. One shitty woke installment fucks the entire franchise.

I deeply regret not playing the PS4 version of the game by now, sometimes procrastination can really bite you on the ass.

Would have been nice to experience the game one last time before all this shit.
 
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