Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Apparently Kennedy was behind the outcome of GE.
The fact that this info is coming out from an official source straight from the mouth of a former executive who was there on the scene of the crime, and not leaked from behind closed doors, is the most surprising part. Could this be Disney’s way of unofficially pushing all the blame for SW’s failure onto Kennedy? I’m sure if they didn’t want this information out there, this ex-VP would have been told to keep his mouth shut about GE, or else...
 
>Implying that Daisy Ridley has that kind of cleavage game going on underneath that Scavenger Outfit

Seriously, the woman is flat enough to double as a dejarik board, which is impressive considering she's following Portman as the female lead.


ROTJ was my favorite in the franchise before I finally saw ROTS in theaters when I was in middle school. Even from childhood, my favorite entries in long-running franchises were often the "finale entries", since they tend to heighten the stakes the most, pack an emotional punch, and have a retrospective feel to the story (a good example of what I'm talking about is the scene in the Ewok village in ROTJ where 3PO is relating all of Han, Luke and Leia's adventures through Ewok-speak and sound effects, and we see Leia lean on Han's shoulder, as if feeling overwhelmed by all that they've been through up till this point. It's the kind of warmth you can only capture with the final entry). To me, it's that essence that makes the final chapter of the story the most fulfilling. ROTJ had that in spades.

ROTS succeeds in this as well, but more as a tragic curtain call for the characters and story of the PT. Forgive my swinging of my Arthurian boner yet again in this thread, but ROTS is a lot like the final act of Excalibur: the third act is relentlessly bleak, with the world falling apart around the characters as a golden age is flung into ruin, and the protagonists become shackled with loss and defeat, but not before the audience is given a glimmer of hope just before the story ends. Unsurprisingly, this is what edges ROTS over ROTJ as my favorite, largely due to my preference in stories.

But they're both spectacular, IMO, and embody Star Wars at its best for me.
Well, you're wrong but I respect your arguments and find them of quality and well made.

j/k - C3PO retelling the saga to the Ewoks almost makes the entire effort of including the furballs worth it.

That's really Lucas' issue as a storyteller in a nutshell. He has this great instinct for coming up emotionally powerful moments - but they don't always square up perfectly in the film. Part of why ESB gets praised as the best is that "I am your father" is not only an incredible emotional moment, but it fits perfectly into the larger whole and brings it all together in a perfect synthesis.
 
The fact that this info is coming out from an official source straight from the mouth of a former executive who was there on the scene of the crime, and not leaked from behind closed doors, is the most surprising part. Could this be Disney’s way of unofficially pushing all the blame for SW’s failure onto Kennedy? I’m sure if they didn’t want this information out there, this ex-VP would have been told to keep his mouth shut about GE, or else...
I don't know they were an ex disney employee and they did put some blame on Bob Chaptek, regardless Kathleen Kennedy and the Bobs suck.
 
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here's tha vid
I watched a video that explained that becoming a Jedi in SW:G was originally hard yet underwhelming with Jedis being made of glass and if i remember correctly (it's been quite a while since i saw that vid) permadeath so Jedi in Galaxies always were problems
 
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Not a fan of robots fucking each other.

I'm a robosexual.

Rey would be the blandest most boring Disney Princess, wouldn't she?

Maybe, but I think Princess Aurora from Sleeping Beauty was the blandest. I mean, all she does comb her hair and the goes into a coma. Rey is a Mary Sue, but at least fights people.
 
Oh.... oh no...

Skippy save us!
Uh oh, looks like the executives reportedly were not informed of this, which they should have been especially since KK's hire was literally the personal assistant of Harvey Weinstein (albeit at the start of her career in the mid 2000s), who also just deleted most of her tweets with the earliest now being from March 2020. Nice PR move, probably came in handy to avoid getting burned by being associated with Weinstein.

YIKES

EDIT: Check out some of her archived tweets in the second link I posted. Looks like she's upset that David Mahmat (broway producer with a great track record) is making a play about Weinstein, but they don't want to use her own play from 2008 about weinstein/miramax experiences.

EDIT2: Her Twitter bio says "chaotic-neutral jedi-sith breed."
Don't throw in D&D terminology in Star Wars! It should have been Grey Jedi, or if you really wanna impress, say you're the Sith'ari,
come to unite the light and dark.
 
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Well, you're wrong but I respect your arguments and find them of quality and well made.

j/k - C3PO retelling the saga to the Ewoks almost makes the entire effort of including the furballs worth it.

That's really Lucas' issue as a storyteller in a nutshell. He has this great instinct for coming up emotionally powerful moments - but they don't always square up perfectly in the film. Part of why ESB gets praised as the best is that "I am your father" is not only an incredible emotional moment, but it fits perfectly into the larger whole and brings it all together in a perfect synthesis.
I suppose, to me, far more impactful than the "I am your father" reveal is what follows that revelation in the next movie: that being, all of Luke and Vader's interactions following that revelation. One of my favorite bits in ROTJ, and something that eclipses all of ESB for me, is the scene where Luke and Vader are sharing a quiet, harrowing moment on the Endor observatory before being shuttled to the Death Star II, particularly the bit where Luke tries to reach out to Vader, who responds with his back turned: "Obi-Wan once thought as you did". You feel that somber desperation with Luke, both in this scene and during his attempts to sway Vader in the dark bowels of the Death Star. You can argue that ESB's simple reveal had more impact than any of that, and you'd have no shortage of people agreeing with you, I'm sure. But it's what a story does with newfound information such as that reveal that strikes a chord with me, not just the advent of that information being revealed.

It's one of the reasons why I feel like the best part of ROTS isn't just Anakin turning to the Dark Side, but how the other characters react. Middling performances aside, the way Obi-Wan and Padme respond to everything Anakin says/does as Darth Vader, is where the emotional meat of ROTS' story is.

But then, I'm also someone whose favorite trilogy is the PT, unironically likes most of the Special Edition changes, prefers KOTOR II to I, and cites the Yuuzhan Vong are my favorite alien race in the franchise. So I'm willing to admit that my views on the Star Wars as a whole are informed by some very unorthodox preferences.
 
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>Implying that Daisy Ridley has that kind of cleavage game going on underneath that Scavenger Outfit

Seriously, the woman is flat enough to double as a dejarik board, which is impressive considering she's following Portman as the female lead.


ROTJ was my favorite in the franchise before I finally saw ROTS in theaters when I was in middle school. Even from childhood, my favorite entries in long-running franchises were often the "finale entries", since they tend to heighten the stakes the most, pack an emotional punch, and have a retrospective feel to the story (a good example of what I'm talking about is the scene in the Ewok village in ROTJ where 3PO is relating all of Han, Luke and Leia's adventures through Ewok-speak and sound effects, and we see Leia lean on Han's shoulder, as if feeling overwhelmed by all that they've been through up till this point. It's the kind of warmth you can only capture with the final entry). To me, it's that essence that makes the final chapter of the story the most fulfilling. ROTJ had that in spades.

ROTS succeeds in this as well, but more as a tragic curtain call for the characters and story of the PT. Forgive my swinging of my Arthurian boner yet again in this thread, but ROTS is a lot like the final act of Excalibur: the third act is relentlessly bleak, with the world falling apart around the characters as a golden age is flung into ruin, and the protagonists become shackled with loss and defeat, but not before the audience is given a glimmer of hope just before the story ends. Unsurprisingly, this is what edges ROTS over ROTJ as my favorite, largely due to my preference in stories.

But they're both spectacular, IMO, and embody Star Wars at its best for me.

It’s my favorite mostly because it was the first one I remember seeing on TV.
 
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The fact that this info is coming out from an official source straight from the mouth of a former executive who was there on the scene of the crime, and not leaked from behind closed doors, is the most surprising part. Could this be Disney’s way of unofficially pushing all the blame for SW’s failure onto Kennedy? I’m sure if they didn’t want this information out there, this ex-VP would have been told to keep his mouth shut about GE, or else...

Maybe its retaliation for leaking the turbo feminist led Star Wars show that wasn't actually greenlit. Tit for tat.

You heard me. I'm going to cum on Daisy Ridley's giant forehead.

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Risky. I wouldn't want to wave my dick in front of a Xenomorph.
 
The fact that this info is coming out from an official source straight from the mouth of a former executive who was there on the scene of the crime, and not leaked from behind closed doors, is the most surprising part. Could this be Disney’s way of unofficially pushing all the blame for SW’s failure onto Kennedy? I’m sure if they didn’t want this information out there, this ex-VP would have been told to keep his mouth shut about GE, or else...
I actually brought this up before during my Galaxy's Edge coverage last year. She and Bob Chapek were the idiots who completely ruined the park. Kennedy wanted it to be ST focused and Iger went along with it because this was back in 2015 when he thought the shitty Disney Trilogy would be bigger than sliced bread, and then Kennedy picked her park development team to redesign the park into a freaking shopping mall. This was made even worse when Bob Chapek decided to cut corners and remove features and alien meet&greets from the park. It feels quite satisfying seeing this finally be confirmed.

I did'nt like that because to me, it was too much real world stuff in there and that was'nt star wars.
It does feel out of place with how more obvious its real world influence is, but its something George had in mind for SW as far back as the 80s and maybe before, with 50s-esque diners having regular appearances in media from the early 80s and onward.
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In fact Dex and his diner were based on the one from the Droids cartoon, having the same layout and a four armed cook. Another note is that this shouldn't feel too out of place in Coruscant since its essentially the SW-equivalent of a futuristic and horribly industrialized Earth.

The Dumbest thing in ROTJ was George thinking the Ewoks were a great metaphor for the Vietnam War.
I still have my doubts about that claim. I personally think he was trying to push that narrative to shut down any criticism about the Ewoks being an obviously toyetic marketing ploy despite that there was already kiddie books, dolls and a cartoon in the works before ROTJ was even released. I'm betting when he replaced the wookiees with the more cost effective ewoks he thought that he could make them into the next Carebears.
 
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If it's not just playing the entire movie with one long ding sound effect throughout, then it's wrong.
Not just the "movie" (calling it a movie is wrong since it's a bunch of scenes slapped together with no consideration of how they fit) but the title crawl and credits too. The title crawl probably because it contradicts itself or some other Disney bullshit (I was drunk when I watched Plan IX so I don't remember what it was) and the credits because I'm sure Disney cheated or mislabeled some actor or film crew somehow. It wouldn't surprise me given how much of a clusterfuck production was.
 
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