The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Piga Dgrifm]

I only caught the latter half of the stream but I think you covered almost everything he said except two parts I found funny. When asked what is the best country right now, he responded without a hint of irony "Antarctica" and when asked why he doesn't do sponsorships and he said he doesn't get offers to do any because he wouldn't sponsor a product he doesn't use. As if any major corporation would want Mr. Enter representing them.

He can't shill Dollar Shave Club since they don't have scissors.

 

[coach_mclurk]

He can't shill Dollar Shave Club since they don't have scissors.

Reminds me back in the day people were joking about donating to his indiegogo only if he shaved his beard.

 

[MysticMisty]

Q: What are your favourite pizza toppings?
Enter: (slowly) French fries...

That sounds disgusting. Some things should never be combined.

 

[LiquidKid]

Q: Do you plan on leaving DeviantArt when they switch to Eclipse? (Eclipse is the new site layout for those unaware)
Enter: No, I don't plan on leaving DeviantArt when they impliment Eclipse. I've got too much stake riding on the place.

What could possibly be at stake if he left DA? Is he that afraid of losing his passive followers?

Q: Opinions on California?
Enter: It's not a good place. California, it's, it's not a good place.

Q: Why is California not a good place?
Enter: Massive homeless crisis, cities are covered in poop.

This may be the CA native in me, But Los Angeles and San Francisco are not the only two cities in the state. And depending on where you are in the city, you won’t see any of that

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

What could possibly be at stake if he left DA? Is he that afraid of losing his passive followers?

Deviantart's the only website where people tolerate his "progress" on Growing Around. If he posted about the story anywhere else, he'd have to do actual work to earn such approval, and he knows how impossible that would be.

 

[LiquidKid]

Correct on the latter one, but I think that moreso came from his Discord:

Spoiler: Enter on Sponsorships

Also, Enter really must not like pings.
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This funny interaction where the guy contradicts himself:
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God. Dammit. Drake!
Why must you be the worst person I know personally?

for those wondering what it’s like to be consistently bothered by a random child who keeps hitting up your DMs because you happen to both be in a server but you’re too nice to tell them to fuck off.
Full context: I didn’t reply to him for a full day

 

[Antipathy]

Why does that sound familiar?

Spoiler: Obvious answers

Oh yeah, this is almost identical to Seahorse Seashell Party's ending, with Meg deciding to stay in, say it with me, "an abusive relationship for their abuser's benefit".

...Instead of some asshole parental/educational figure abusing the helpless kiddies (AKA Enter's parents and teachers abusing him), its the other way around. To him, it's the formally helpless kiddies abusing the formally asshole parental/educational adults (AKA Enter rising up against his parents and teachers).

What he doesn't realize is that, to everyone else reading his book or his scripts (or the potential audience of people watching a Growing Around cartoon, God forbid), this also swaps who is historically helpless and who is the historical asshole. So, to most people, it's a bunch of asshole parental/educational kiddies abusing the helpless adults. In effect, he made an army of Peters/SpongeBobs/Buck Clucks rule over a population of Megward the Wizards, instead of the Megward the Wizards ruling over the Peters/SpongeBobs/Buck Clucks.

This is because Enter is autistic and can't project himself into the shoes of another (without the conscious effort to do so). It is not intuitive to him that to an outside observer, the kids have always been in charge in this setting he's created, and thus the punishments they inflict on adults (who are historically the characters abusive to children in the media Enter consumes/consumed, be it Chicken Little or whatever) are not just retribution for a history of being the butts of jokes, but rather cruel and unusual punishment that is entirely unjustified. There was never a moment where the adults abused the kids in the setting, but there are plenty of moments where kids abuse adults. The odd bit of Enter's questionable sexuality seeping into this puts it in an even uglier light, and once more, the setting collapses entirely without the supporting embrace of Enter's own worldview to seal the innumerable cracks in its fundamentals and to isolate it from any outside dissenting thoughts or concepts.

All Enter really did was put the abused and abuser characters in different skins and then attempt to justify it with his hatred of both adulthood and adults by flipping the script entirely, utterly ignoring the logistical efforts that go into worldbuilding when the tone is meant to be at least somewhat serious, as Enter clearly intends GA to be. He did nothing more creative than telling the animators to swap Peter and Meg Griffin's appearances, but kept everything else the same, but somehow he expects us to root for the "Peter" because they wear the flesh of an abused person.

 

[Corsola]

Didnt Enter do an Animated Attrocities on that Hey Arnold episode where he has to wear the bunny pajamas in public and is humiliated? If I'm remembering correctly thats....... ironic considering how being forced to wear embarassing clothes in public is planned to be in damn near every single episode of GA.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

It's astounding how hypocritical Enter has proven himself to be. Almost everything he's ever complained about in Animated Atrocities is present in Growing Around. At this point, I want the show to be made just so some troll can make their own Animated Atrocity of it, then we can see how Enter reacts.

 

[66andtwothirds]

That’s just his default voice. He always sounds mad, even when talking about what he likes he sounds pissed and manages to drag in something that makes him angry. See some of his “admirable animations” videos for more examples of that. Especially the one on the Arthur episode “April”.

i notice that the Troll and heart of ice Admirables are also very grumpy. no wonder his subs are not going up. i know he has the 'tism but there are public speaking coaches or videos on how to sound more positive. he has no excuse.

 

[Cat_Piss_and_Vinegar]

And yet again, a few good points/admittedly funny responses buried in a pile of idiocy and potentially harmful misinformation.

Like, I'm not happy with how the election's shaping up either, but if you want something, anything to improve, the least you can do is vote.

Same- I know my vote likely doesn't matter as far as Presidential goes, but I do know I can make shit happen with my local ordinances and millages.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Didnt Enter do an Animated Attrocities on that Hey Arnold episode where he has to wear the bunny pajamas in public and is humiliated? If I'm remembering correctly thats....... ironic considering how being forced to wear embarassing clothes in public is planned to be in damn near every single episode of GA.

Yes. Specifically, it was his Atrocity review on the episode Arnold Betrays Iggy.

It's pretty telling how most of the complaints he has on this episode can also be used against any Growing Around episode, especially the ones featuring someone being forced to crossdress in order to humiliate him.

He keeps claiming that his reviews are for him to learn the rights and wrongs of animation (see the Nick-O-Rama COPPA disclaimer for an example), but it seems like he's only learning the wrongs and not the rights.

 

[andr0id psycho sho(ker]

Yes. Specifically, it was his Atrocity review on the episode Arnold Betrays Iggy.

It's pretty telling how most of the complaints he has on this episode can also be used against any Growing Around episode, especially the ones featuring someone being forced to crossdress in order to humiliate him.

He keeps claiming that his reviews are for him to learn the rights and wrongs of animation (see the Nick-O-Rama COPPA disclaimer for an example), but it seems like he's only learning the wrongs and not the rights.

he's not even learning the wrongs. He's going, "See? I can totally do this better, watch me type up a script about it."

 

[An Account]

Yes. Specifically, it was his Atrocity review on the episode Arnold Betrays Iggy.

It's pretty telling how most of the complaints he has on this episode can also be used against any Growing Around episode, especially the ones featuring someone being forced to crossdress in order to humiliate him.

He keeps claiming that his reviews are for him to learn the rights and wrongs of animation (see the Nick-O-Rama COPPA disclaimer for an example), but it seems like he's only learning the wrongs and not the rights.

If this episode had Arnold in a dress instead of a bunny suit, it'd be an Admirable Animation video, easily.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

Yes. Specifically, it was his Atrocity review on the episode Arnold Betrays Iggy.

It's pretty telling how most of the complaints he has on this episode can also be used against any Growing Around episode, especially the ones featuring someone being forced to crossdress in order to humiliate him.

He keeps claiming that his reviews are for him to learn the rights and wrongs of animation (see the Nick-O-Rama COPPA disclaimer for an example), but it seems like he's only learning the wrongs and not the rights.

Most of his complaints in that video boil down to "The premise would work if they did it in X super-specific way with Y super-specific context, but because they didn't write it the way I would write it, they're wrong." Fuck, Shane wears bunny pajamas in Growing Around, so Enter's definitely out to fix this story already. With everything that's gone down, he clearly subscribes to the mentality of "There are no bad ideas; only bad executions." But the ideas that he's trying to execute are so spiteful and self-destructive that the only way to fix them is to remove the entire "revenge" angle that drove him to write to begin with. Only trouble for him is, once he reaches that point, why bother writing at all?

 

[The Pink Panther]

These are questions and answers from his latest stream. He actually does bring up the situation of him having kids in it. To get that out the way, he basically says he has a low chance of having them.

He also brings up the chart analysis video that was deleted. His answer is in the Video spoiler.

Spoiler: Animation Questions

Q: What is your favourite reboot?
Enter: Right now, probably Friendship is Magic.

Q: Asexualty and aromanticism rocks! Opinion on DuckTales reboot?
Enter: I haven't watched much of the DuckTales reboot actually.

Q: Which longest lasting cartoon do you think should come to an end.
Enter: Family Guy should come to an end.

Q: Any idea when your show will be out?
Enter: When it's done.

Q: What do you think of Madoka Magica?
Enter: Still working on the review, or trying...

Q: Have you seen the Sonic movie?
Enter: I have not seen the Sonic movie.

Q: Why are people using Cal Arts (style) all the time?
Enter: 'Cause people are idiots.

Q: If you could take a cartoon off the air, what would it be?
Enter: (coldly) Family Guy...

Q: Stop insulting Family Guy!
Enter: But it's not good...

Q: What's your opinion on rotoscope animation?
Enter: It usually looks very uncanny.

Q: How is Growing Around doing?
Enter: Good.

Q: Can you talk more about animation? Politics suck.
Enter: Wish I could right now...

Q: Opinions on modern Simpsons versus modern Family Guy?
Enter: I watched that episode where they made that female version of Itchy and Scratchy, and it was fucking awful, so maybe I'll just... I'll review that, I don't know. It's...just awful.

Q: What's currently your favourite cartoon to watch?
Enter: I haven't been watching many. I was planning on martathoning King of the Hill of all things ironically. It's not for sale on Amazon for some reason.

Spoiler: COVID-19 Questions

Q: Who is right and wrong in this pandemic situation?
Enter: There's very few people who are consistently right throughout the entire latter of the way. It's just this situation of everyone screwing up in some of the most cartoonish ways imaginable. In a decade, this thing is probably gonna be made into the funniest comedy of all time.

SUPERCHAT: Thoughts on Donald Trump's response to this pandemic?
Enter: I mean he's had a wide variety of them. That's a hard thing to give a straightforward answer to. I mean, he's definitely said a lot of stupid shit, but at the same time, the media does take a lot of what he says out of context and sensationalises it to hell and back.

Q: In your opinion, what's the scariest thing about all this?
Enter: The fact that people were so willing to let all of these lockdowns and all of the government stamping on rights going down. Anti-protestors don't realise that after all this ends, someone else going outside can still give them a cold. So by their logic, these people still shouldn't have the right to go outside. There's always going to be another disease.

Q: What if the virus mutates?
Enter: Then you better hope to Hell that you got the kiddie version that's going around now.

Q: How long do you think it'll be until people 'forget' about the virus?
Enter: I'm gonna tell you when. The first day that's over 70° (F) in these northern areas. People are gonna forget the disease and just go outside and start living their lives. That's how long the lockdowns are gonna last, I guarantee you.

SUPERCHAT: Hey! Mr. Enter! Do you think treatments (such as pills) are a more realistic scenario than a cure?
Enter: Yes! Treatment is better and more reasonable than vaccines.

Q: What do you think of school being out due to quarantine?
Enter: School being out is pretty predictable, I would say. Although, it's probably going to damage a generation's worth of education. Uh...and I mean, it's very rare that kids get devastated by this disease. I mean, they still get it, but they're usually far less symptomatic.

Q: There ARE online classes.
Enter: There are online classes, but they have problems. For example, the Zoom bombers.

Q: The problem is the kids become spreaders.
Enter: Uh-huh... (6-10 pause - mocking tone) Let me tell you the strategy of how we're gonna deal with this disease. We're not gonna quarantine the vulnerable people. We're quarantining everyone else WITH the vulnerable people. That will work out fantastically. (normal tone) No, wait, that's a stupid idea that nobody will do, except that everyone's doing it.

Spoiler: Gaming Questions

Q: Have you played Animal Crossing?
Enter: Yes, I've played Animal Crossing. Every single one of the main games except City Folk.

Q: Do you play Persona 5?
Enter: I do not play Persona.

Q: What are your opinions on Animal Crossing?
Enter: New Horizons made the mistake of making everything take way too long to do. It should not take an in-game week to unlock the hourly music. That's a stupid decision, and it's a stupid decision to take a week in-game to start...

Q: Favourite game on steam?
Enter: Stardew Valley, I guess.

Q: Do you like Terraria?
Enter: I like Terraria, but it ends up being too difficult for me.

Q: Play any good games lately?
Enter: Sure.

Spoiler: Political Questions

Q: Which news source you don't trust?
Enter: Let me give you a quick and dirty lesson. If it's on TV, it's probably bad and you shouldn't listen to it. I'm gonna come right out and say it. The internet is not the best either, but all of the big ones, FOX, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, they're all shit.

Q: What's your opinion on CNN?
Enter: They're probably the worst of all the news outlets. I don't think they have any competition there.

Q: What about the BBC?
Enter: I don't know ENOUGH about the BBC!

Q: Pick one, Trump or Biden?
Enter: I am NOT voting. I am NOT voting in this election (chuckles). You want me to vote? Make sure you pick a good fucking candidate.

Q: Where do you get your current world news at?
Enter: I check a wise variety of sources.

Q: What can the media do to improve?
Enter: Stop sensationalising shit. That's important.

Q: What is your opinion on PETA?
Enter: PETA is crazy.

Q: When does revolt become necessary?
Enter: Apparently when you don't have other options. And for many, that's becoming more and more likely.

Q: Do you support Georgia reopening?
Enter: Someone's gotta reopen it at this point. Georgia's not the only one doing it.

Q: What's your opinion on Bernie.
Enter: Hard to say. He seems like a nice guy, but I have a feeling that if he did get elected, he wouldn't be able to push anything through.

Q: Are you for or against vaccinations?
Enter: I thought I already said I'm against forced vaccinations for a variety of reasons.

Spoiler: MISC 1

Q: Did you get your stimulas check?
Enter: Yes.

Q: You getting enough sleep?
Enter: Yeah, I'm getting plenty of sleep.

Q: What is on your mind?
Enter: Oh, just people going ape-shit. That's all.

Q: Do you plan on leaving DeviantArt when they switch to Eclipse? (Eclipse is the new site layout for those unaware)
Enter: No, I don't plan on leaving DeviantArt when they impliment Eclipse. I've got too much stake riding on the place.

Q: Opinions on California?
Enter: It's not a good place. California, it's, it's not a good place.

Q: Why is California not a good place?
Enter: Massive homeless crisis, cities are covered in poop.

Q: How is your artistic ability so far?
Enter: It's getting better apparently, although I don't really think so.

Q: Do you like Lord of the Rings?
Enter: Yeah, it's good.

Q: Have you ever been to Japan?
Enter: I've never been out of this country.

Q: Do you feel your production has been faster or slower since the pandemic?
Enter: Much slower...

Q: Do you think mosquitos are useless?
Enter: Mosquitos are VERY useless.

Q: I hate New York.
Enter: It's not one of the good ones, yeah.

Q: How does one get the luscious beard?
Enter: Uh, you choose not to advertise Dollar Shave Club.

SUPERCHAT: Why do you avoid so many questions?
Enter: Because there's only so many I can answer.

Q: What VPN do you use?
Enter: I use NordVPN still.

Q: Are you gonna start a Discord?
Enter: I have a Discord for Growing Around, that's the closest to a me Discord you're gonna get.

Q: What is the scariest thing ever for you?
Enter: I would use to say experiencing nothing for the rest of eternity upon death. Now? I'm not so sure.

Q: How've you been holding up?
Enter: Good luck. I dunno.

Q: How have you been keeping yourself relatively sane?
Enter: I don't think I've been succeeding, whatever I've been trying.

Q: Quick, let's talk about him while he...oh, OK, he's back!
Enter: Oh, I'm used to people shittalking me behind my back at this point.

Spoiler: MISC 2

Q: Do you have any pets?
Enter: No, not particularly.

Q: Least favourite music genre?
Enter: One of the really hard stuff like heavy metal, scream metal, throw dubstep in there, I guess.

Q: Do you have a favourite soda?
Enter: Mountain Dew is my favourite soda.

Q: Do you wear a mask when you go out?
Enter: I do not own a mask, no.

Q: What are your favourite pizza toppings?
Enter: (slowly) French fries...

Q: Favourite Mountain Dew flavour?
Enter: Ah, it depends. It's usually either Code Red or Voltage.

Q: What do you think about jogging?
Enter: I like walking more than jogging.

Q: Have you ever read a Japanese comic book?
Enter: I got my hands, once upon a time, on the manga version of Romeo and Juliet. That's a thing. It exists. I don't know why it exists, but it exists.

Q: Are you a misanthrope?
Enter: About that, I'm realising more and more that nothing about these kind of people have really changed. They've kind of always been like this. The media has always been sensationalised to Hell and back. These kind of people have always been wishing death on their politic opponents.

Q: Are you an introvert?
Enter: Sure.

Q: Why did you delete your Twitter?
Enter: Because Twitter is a toxic hellhole.

SUPERCHAT: Do you have a favourite food?
Enter: My favourite food is Alfredo.

Spoiler: Romance/Kids

Q: Do you like being asexual?
Enter: It has its perks.

Q: Are you looking forward to tell your grandkids about how you survived the COVID-19?
Enter: Grandkids!? You think I'm gonna even have regular kids? I'm asexual...it's probably not on the table. I mean, I might have nieces or nephews, but I don't think I'm going to have...

Q: You could totally adopt if you wanted to.
Enter: A single person usually isn't given the go-to for adoption.

Q: Are you Aromantic though? Ive only got the one ace friend irl, and he's still very much on the prowl.
Enter: Yes, I am also aromantic.

Q: Update on the cyberstalker from months ago?
Enter: Cyberstalker hasn't been a problem.

Spoiler: Video Questions

Q: Technocracy was great. Do you plan on more stuff like that?
Enter: I want to do more stuff like Technocracy. I'm just wondering what the topic is. Honestly this whole environment seems like it's perfect grounds for something like that.

Q: What was the most frustrating video to make?
Enter: That's hard to tell...

Q: You've been streaming a lot lately. Why is that?
Enter: Because I feel like I just wanna talk about stuff, maybe enlighten my own mood. On top of that, the bots have been going crazy because there's no human moderation. Every single day, like three old videos of mine get claimed.

SUPERCHAT: TheMysteriousMrEnter, I have some request.
Enter: Uh... Sorry, I don't really take requests anymore considering it's taken me literally years to deal with a backlog of old requests.

SUPERCHAT: Did you and Crimson Mayhem end on good terms?
Enter: I BELIEVE Crimson and I ended on good terms. If he had a problem with me, he didn't say anything the last time we spoke.

Q: What makes your reviews legit? Like did you study cartoons in school or make them before or something?
Enter: No, I only started doing that stuff AFTER I started making reviews. What makes them legit? I guess I notice small details very well, and I'm able to see past my nose when it comes to predicting the future.

Q: What happened to that chart analysis video (the deleted one)?
Enter: Ugh! It doesn't matter.

Q: What will you review next?
Enter: Don't know.

SUPERCHAT: Thinking of doing a Cartoon Network version of Nick O Rama?
Enter: Uh...... Yes, but after all the drama for the Nickelodeon one, it's probably a 'might be'.

Q: Will you ever make a Worst Cartoons of the 1970s list?
Enter: Someday, I believe.

Q: Do you have any plans for future videos?
Enter: I haven't been thinking much about the future lately.

Enter's view of the media and politics is something I kinda agree with, but I also think that he shouldn't be so keen on trying to play Mr. Fence on everything too.

 

[Antipathy]

he's not even learning the wrongs. He's going, "See? I can totally do this better, watch me type up a script about it."

Writing by spite is probably one of the worst ways you could possibly create something, following behind writing something for personal or sexual gratificatio- oh.

 

[andr0id psycho sho(ker]

Writing by spite is probably one of the worst ways you could possibly create something, following behind writing something for personal or sexual gratificatio- oh.

What about doing all three mixed together in some kind of unholy autistic literary fusion? That's what Enter is literally doing

 

[Antipathy]

What about doing all three mixed together in some kind of unholy autistic literary fusion? That's what Enter is literally doing

That was the intent of the post. I understand that we're all autists here and sometimes it's hard to read between the lines, but that was literally the joke.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

Most of his complaints in that video boil down to "The premise would work if they did it in X super-specific way with Y super-specific context, but because they didn't write it the way I would write it, they're wrong." Fuck, Shane wears bunny pajamas in Growing Around, so Enter's definitely out to fix this story already. With everything that's gone down, he clearly subscribes to the mentality of "There are no bad ideas; only bad executions." But the ideas that he's trying to execute are so spiteful and self-destructive that the only way to fix them is to remove the entire "revenge" angle that drove him to write to begin with. Only trouble for him is, once he reaches that point, why bother writing at all?

I never got why he's so hell-bent on "fixing" bad stories either. Flip-Flopped wasn't even a good concept, yet he insisted it was and now we have the glorious trainwreck that is Growing Around.