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BREAKING: Governor Gavin Newsom to Close All State Parks and Beaches Across California


Lets see if this is true. If so I'd think it on the same level as self circumcision with a chainsaw stupidity but there are alot of sheep in Cali that'll bend over and say "baa".
He's straight-up just throwing a hissy fit because people were on the beach in socal last weekend in violation of whatever the fuck his last decree was. He was sperging about it earlier. Beaches are incredibly low transmission risk and he desperately needs basic public goodwill to keep anyone following the lockdown orders at all.

Moron.
 
He's straight-up just throwing a hissy fit because people were on the beach in socal last weekend in violation of whatever the fuck his last decree was. He was sperging about it earlier. Beaches are incredibly low transmission risk and he desperately needs basic public goodwill to keep anyone following the lockdown orders at all.

Moron.
Carve off California, put an engine on it..and trade it with Hong Kong and Taiwan.
 
is it just me or do a bunch of government officials look like they've aged yeears in the matter of weeks? my governor has surely seen better days.

NFG. Maybe if these little Hitlers had rationalized house arrests maybe they wouldn't have so much to deal with. Anyway, THEY never miss a paycheck. Too many Americans are missing paychecks these days, thanks to these little Hitlers.

He's straight-up just throwing a hissy fit because people were on the beach in socal last weekend in violation of whatever the fuck his last decree was. He was sperging about it earlier. Beaches are incredibly low transmission risk and he desperately needs basic public goodwill to keep anyone following the lockdown orders at all.

Moron.

Nazi Newsom. A major-league cunt. Look for the pushbacks to continue and grow. Just hope they don't turn violent.
 
I'm calling bullshit about CA's unemployment system being down. But they just finished revamping a good chunk of CA government's old system back in 2019 and the project manager was one of the best from Livenation, who came over from being VP of network security (IRRC) and the person in charge of project design was one of the best from the low voltage industry and a major asshole when it comes to people not living up to expectations. So the idea that somehow their unemployment system fails after a 3 year modernization project doesn't add up. especially when the deputy labor commissioner was big on making sure these exact systems wouldn't go down, its literally the only thing keeping a lot of people from starving, the fact that the unemployment office is in the same building probably influenced her more though.

Its more likely that CA like most other states dont have the cash to handle so many unemployment authorizations and took it down themselves. aren't like most states in fear of going bankrupt because of all the gibs they have to give out now?

Nazi Newsom. A major-league cunt. Look for the pushbacks to continue and grow. Just hope they don't turn violent.
I wonder when the Dead Kennedys will release that song, or the next generation berniebro verision of the band: The Lynched Obamas

Anyways this will be giving people a real lesson on the difference between de facto and de jure. Just because the law says something, if enough people don't follow it, it suddenly fails. You really think some employee or security guard or officer is going to tell a member of the community to fuck off for not wearing a mask or being in a park. They can handle one person but a dozen or a hundred and suddenly they back off.
 
And this is why you shouldn't blindly trust Science, it is always 100% completely right....

Until it turns out to be wrong, but NOW it is totally 100% right.
Its not a matter of not trusting Science, because Science is a process of reinforcing and refuting claims until something is widely accepted as the most logical explanation.

The issue is blindly trusting scientists, which is anti-scientific, because part of being a scientist is having your findings shot down and torn apart by other scientists.

Even more pressing, the issue is blindly trusting "scientific" organizations that are political in nature (WHO), because they have a vested interest in cherry-picking works & findings that support their policies and nay-saying those that dont.

The sad irony of it all is if you go on Facebook, Twatter or the wrong Discord server and post about how the mortality rate is less than 1% citing legit academic studies, they shout at you and call you a "science denier" and counter with shitty policy numbers given out by the WHO.
 
The WHO just praised Sweden's Coronavirus approach.



So, how long before the New York times starts running neagative articles about the WHO?

- WHO praises China for clamping down everything and creating a dystopian novel
- WHO praises Sweden for doing nothing

Consistency, motherfucker, do you speak it?

Why do we trust scientists to dictate our economy. Its fucking mins boggling. They are killing us and they don't even know it

Because they're paid by the government for their work no matter what. They're focused on a different type of number, not if Mr. Smith is going to be able to feed his family in a month.
 
The other day queuing to be allowed in the supermarket whilst watching the ever-refilling "NHS" line go in, a woman in front of me very tentatively and cautiously said: "it can be a bit annoying sometimes". Sort of tone of voice an East German might use when criticizing the government. I nodded discretely so that she knew I understood the need for caution and replied "yes, I feel exactly the same". Then we quietly waited to see if anyone had overheard.
 
Why bother tracking deaths anymore now that they're just lying about it? If they're going to count 'death by car accident, but tested positive for Coronachan' and 'death by poisoning but they coughed before then so probably had Corona' as 'Coronavirus deaths', the death count is completely useless. Infection count seems like the only thing worth tracking anymore.

Can you please stop calling the virus Corona Chan, Wu Flu, Chink Flu, Pinko Pox, etc. You do realise how racist that is right?

Are you trying to be stupid or is it just a natural talent?
 
Its not a matter of not trusting Science, because Science is a process of reinforcing and refuting claims until something is widely accepted as the most logical explanation.

The issue is blindly trusting scientists, which is anti-scientific, because part of being a scientist is having your findings shot down and torn apart by other scientists.

Even more pressing, the issue is blindly trusting "scientific" organizations that are political in nature (WHO), because they have a vested interest in cherry-picking works & findings that support their policies and nay-saying those that dont.

The sad irony of it all is if you go on Facebook, Twatter or the wrong Discord server and post about how the mortality rate is less than 1% citing legit academic studies, they shout at you and call you a "science denier" and counter with shitty policy numbers given out by the WHO.

That's because it's no longer Science. It's Scentism.
 
The WHO just praised Sweden's Coronavirus approach.
WHO desperately trying to rewrite history... they were telling them they’d all die a month back.
And this is why you shouldn't blindly trust Science, it is always 100% completely right....

Until it turns out to be wrong, but NOW it is totally 100% right.
It’s more the way scientists are reported tbh. Science works by ‘this is how we think the world is on the best evidence we have now, minds may be changed if ...’

The media doesn’t like that and the public doesn’t like it either. I’ve had the media talk to me before and been totally, comedically misrepresented what I was trying to get across. They needed drama and we didn’t have any, so they just made it up.

So for example I was really surprised when the data about smoking maybe being preventative came out because I’d have bet money that the opposite would be true. But if that’s what the data says, then that’s what the data says. Let’s all shove a Nicotine patch on and have a smoke...

A scientist looks at it and says ‘well that’s interesting, we were wrong. How does that work?’
A policy maker will have inertia because if they reverse their policy then they themselves will be seen as wrong. That’s why so few politicians do U turns when faced with similar stuff. It’s a sunk costs thing.
The media will spin it as whatever gets most clicks/drama. The media has zero interest in conveying nuance or possibility of error.
The public will whip themselves into a frenzy.

A politician who will say ‘yeah we fucked that up. We worked on x evidence but now it looks like y. We change direction accordingly’ is a rare bird and one You should Consider voting for .
 
UK Daily for yesterday:

818,539 Tested (+52,429)

165,221 Positive (+4,076)

26,097 dead (+765)

New colour of yellow for today as I believe the figures now include social care based deaths (namely care homes).

So UK testing capacity is likely to miss the 100,000 tests a day marker laid down by the Health Secretary Matt Hancock by days. UK testing capacity now sits at 73,000 a day and only has a day left to get that remaining figure.

So expect the useless media to whinge and demand his resignation for the next week solid from tomorrow.
 
Norway extending closed borders for another 90 days. Not for immigrants mind you, they are still welcome, but no foreign tourists and all Norwegians coming home are ordered into quarantine for two weeks. I didn't plan a summer vacation this year, but I've been hearing a lot of angry murmuring from others. This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back
 
It’s more the way scientists are reported tbh. Science works by ‘this is how we think the world is on the best evidence we have now, minds may be changed if ...’

The media doesn’t like that and the public doesn’t like it either. I’ve had the media talk to me before and been totally, comedically misrepresented what I was trying to get across. They needed drama and we didn’t have any, so they just made it up.
I would agree there, if we didn't have (((SCIENTISTS))) on those news shows pushing that shit too.

Edit : Here I will give an example.

The Current head of the WHO has never done medical science ever..he is a beurocrat, but he is held up as an example of "TRUSTING THE SCIENCE!"
 
This was my experience with the media:

Media: hi! Today we are with otterly who has cured death
O: lol no.
M: so tell us how you cured death!
O: we havent cured death. We’ve pioneered a genetically targeted regime that increases average survival in this patient group from 4 years to over fifteen, meaning they get longer with their families and some die of old age before disease
M: So you’ve cured death? They aren’t dying!
O: they die, just later.
M: Death! Cured! When will it be available for all? Can we live to a thousand?
O: are you on glue?

media runs with ‘Mavericks cure death!’ headline. .
 
Louis Rossmann who is hilarious points out some people seem to be immune to social distancing laws.

https://archive.vn/5E8k5


Apparently it's a funeral for a rabbi who died of COVID.

https://archive.vn/5NB8I

Since the pandemic began, the NYPD has repeatedly broken up well-attended funeral gatherings in Brooklyn's ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods, which have seen some of the highest rates of COVID-19 deaths. A police spokesperson would not say why the funeral was allowed to take place, or how the department decides to enforce social distancing laws.

This is what Bill de Blasio was complaining about.
 
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Yo mofos. I got another political rant coming for ya later. But for now let's cure your spergery first!

I still don't believe that this is real. Are people still taking this at face value (pardon the pun), or has this been revealed as nothing more than Chinese propaganda already?

This "news" came out during the exact same time China's narrative was all about how the "darkies from Africa were bringing the Coronavirus back to China" a few weeks ago. They were literally banning anyone with darker skin from shopping or going out to eat.

Anything to not accept the blame or responsibility for literally ALL of this. I bet that the Chinese Nationals ate this all up, too.

Honestly. You can see on this very forum. My first reaction was an alex jones meme because I thought it was some kinda joke. Like this seems so implausible. But that being said.

This isn't biologically impossible. It isn't caused by the virus. But taking into account they were treated by chinks god knows what their blood looks like. We got some mofo that turned into papa smurf, this isn't even the weirdest skin coloration I've seen.

But the timing does seem coincidental. My guess once I figured it wasn't a joke was that first they were hiding it for obvious reasons but when some propagandist figured it could justify their racism and fit their "oh no virus so dangwrous every other country should stay locked forever" narrative they tried to use it. But yeah, it could also be pure bullshit. Then again maybe some TCM idiot bought the "niggers unaffected by virus" and intentionally caused the skintone change. With china nothing is too stupid to be ignored as a possibility.

is it just me or do a bunch of government officials look like they've aged yeears in the matter of weeks? my governor has surely seen better days.

Stress is a hell of a drug.

And this is why you shouldn't blindly trust Science, it is always 100% completely right....

Until it turns out to be wrong, but NOW it is totally 100% right.

The scientific method doesn't 100% trust established science. I trust the scientific method 100%, I do not trust established science 100%. Funny that I had a spat with @Disheveled Human about this very thing on this very thread. People need to realize how science actually works.

Yeah but we aren't allowed to do that. If you dare say you dare say that people like Bill Gates or the WHO are blowing this shit out of proportion you are an "Anti Science Moron."

Bill gates is a lawyer known for his abusive legal practices managing to push a frankly incompetent operative system to prominence. The who is a chinese propaganda machine led by a war criminal. What the fuck does that have to do with science?

I figured that immunity would last for 1-3 years since that's typically the range that immunity lasts for coronaviruses. What I'm wondering is why epidemiologists didn't figure that since they were working with a coronavirus, that they should initially treat it like the common cold at best and SARS at worst. I know why the media treats it like the doomsday virus, but I would think that would be an educated guess regarding this novel virus in the scientific field.

The hilarity being that the scenario epidemiologists predicted and worked out of is literally called a "pandemic flu" scenario is enough to make your comment send my sides into orbit. Don't mistake what epidemiologists like Fernando Simon worked with and what "epidemiologists" like those idiots in britain making bullshit propaganda models claimed they were working with. Very different things. I recomend you all look up the talks by ISCIII members (specially Fernando himself) about this and you'll see the contrast between a scientist and a propaganda mill.

Its not a matter of not trusting Science, because Science is a process of reinforcing and refuting claims until something is widely accepted as the most logical explanation.

The issue is blindly trusting scientists, which is anti-scientific, because part of being a scientist is having your findings shot down and torn apart by other scientists.

Even more pressing, the issue is blindly trusting "scientific" organizations that are political in nature (WHO), because they have a vested interest in cherry-picking works & findings that support their policies and nay-saying those that dont.

The sad irony of it all is if you go on Facebook, Twatter or the wrong Discord server and post about how the mortality rate is less than 1% citing legit academic studies, they shout at you and call you a "science denier" and counter with shitty policy numbers given out by the WHO.

And there it is. Thank you. People need this drilled into their fucking heads. Peer reviewed journals are the best aproximation to reality we can analyze through currently available evidence. Scientists are humans. Big difference. Science is no religion. Stop treating it that way.

Why do we trust scientists to dictate our economy. Its fucking mind boggling. They are killing us and they don't even know it

Scientists, more concretely epidemiologists, have been doing this successfuly for ages and killed no one. Said epidemiologists have been pushed aside and ignores for "scientists" with no real merit paid by propagandists to misrepresent the data. The ones killing you aren't the scientists. It's the politicians. The reason they trust the propaganda departments is because they tell the propaganda departments what to say.

- WHO praises China for clamping down everything and creating a dystopian novel
- WHO praises Sweden for doing nothing

Consistency, motherfucker, do you speak it?



Because they're paid by the government for their work no matter what. They're focused on a different type of number, not if Mr. Smith is going to be able to feed his family in a month.

Yeah not gonna lie. WHO seems to be in opposite day. They praised spain just as the residence fuckup caused massive amounts of unnecessary deaths. They licked spain's arse when the PPE shortages caused hospital outbreaks. They literally seem to only praise countries when they're doing things wrong.

That's because it's no longer Science. It's Scentism.

Et voila. Don't mix science with religion.

WHO desperately trying to rewrite history... they were telling them they’d all die a month back.

It’s more the way scientists are reported tbh. Science works by ‘this is how we think the world is on the best evidence we have now, minds may be changed if ...’

The media doesn’t like that and the public doesn’t like it either. I’ve had the media talk to me before and been totally, comedically misrepresented what I was trying to get across. They needed drama and we didn’t have any, so they just made it up.

So for example I was really surprised when the data about smoking maybe being preventative came out because I’d have bet money that the opposite would be true. But if that’s what the data says, then that’s what the data says. Let’s all shove a Nicotine patch on and have a smoke...

A scientist looks at it and says ‘well that’s interesting, we were wrong. How does that work?’
A policy maker will have inertia because if they reverse their policy then they themselves will be seen as wrong. That’s why so few politicians do U turns when faced with similar stuff. It’s a sunk costs thing.
The media will spin it as whatever gets most clicks/drama. The media has zero interest in conveying nuance or possibility of error.
The public will whip themselves into a frenzy.

A politician who will say ‘yeah we fucked that up. We worked on x evidence but now it looks like y. We change direction accordingly’ is a rare bird and one You should Consider voting for .
This was my experience with the media:

Media: hi! Today we are with otterly who has cured death
O: lol no.
M: so tell us how you cured death!
O: we havent cured death. We’ve pioneered a genetically targeted regime that increases average survival in this patient group from 4 years to over fifteen, meaning they get longer with their families and some die of old age before disease
M: So you’ve cured death? They aren’t dying!
O: they die, just later.
M: Death! Cured! When will it be available for all? Can we live to a thousand?
O: are you on glue?

media runs with ‘Mavericks cure death!’ headline. .

And then there's that issue. Here, have some videos on the topic:



I've got plenty of tales (2nd hand) of how journos absolutely and abhorrently misquote scientists. Often deliberately. As i mentioned here in spain we're literally shown examples and taught what to look up for during interviews. And even then journos just keep getting better at twisting words and often times just straight up add very small segments of what the scientist said and then paragraphs of bullshit additions by them. When journalists try to tell you scientists say the sky is blue. Go check. It's probably turned green.
 
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