The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

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JukeBoxx59 said:
If Mr. Enter did his homework and played his cards right, Growing Around would be a success.
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Homework? You mean like school? Sorry but school is bad for aspiring cartoon-makers.
In all seriousness though, at this point Mr. Enter would have to completely reinvent himself, admit his reviews are overly harsh and blind, actually study how to write and practice for years, learn how to draw properly and at the bare minimum make some comics or animatics and learn how to be a kind and pleasant person and network with people. At that point he should become aware enough to know Growing Around is a stupid idea but if he really still wants to go at it then he'd still have to re-tool it into a slice of life focusing on the core characters.
 
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coach_mclurk said:
Homework? You mean like school? Sorry but school is bad for aspiring cartoon-makers.
In all seriousness though, at this point Mr. Enter would have to completely reinvent himself, admit his reviews are overly harsh and blind, actually study how to write and practice for years, learn how to draw properly and at the bare minimum make some comics or animatics and learn how to be a kind and pleasant person and network with people. At that point he should become aware enough to know Growing Around is a stupid idea but if he really still wants to go at it then he'd still have to re-tool it into a slice of life focusing on the core characters.
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I meant as in did his research and planned his cartoon out more. He should have made a show bible.
 
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JukeBoxx59 said:
I meant as in did his research and planned his cartoon out more. He should have made a show bible.
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Ehh, even then I'm not so sure. It would certainly help if he had a clue what he was even trying to do, and I'm sure people would be a lot less hostile toward the idea if he cleared up some aspects of it, but there's still way too many flaws. As it stands, he doesn't even have an FAQ even though he constantly gets asked the same questions about what the series even is.

BTW I finally got to the end of the interview. Alpha Jay basically asks "Why should anybody trust you with $350,000 of their money?"
To which Enter responds in a tone of disbelief as if somebody just asked him why is water wet. "Because I'm staking my entire career on this? Like if I get the money and I don't deliver, that's more or less career suicide for me."
...What career? His reviewing career? If fans have put up with his bullshit this long, they're not gonna hold it against him if his show's production "ran into a few hiccups and won't be finished." If he's talking about his hypothetical showrunner career, then he's not really putting anything at stake then is he? He's asking people to take a huge risk on him for something he's never done before and if he fucks it all up he hasn't lost anything. He's not getting his credentials invalidated because he as no credentials.
 
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Here's the one where he says the MLP episode gave him depression. Starts about 16 minutes in. He puts that instrumental all the creepypasta YouTubers use in the background of it for some reason.
JukeBoxx59 said:
I meant as in did his research and planned his cartoon out more. He should have made a show bible.
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Even still, the best we can hope for there is that, once he sees everything out in clear view like that, he realizes how fucked up it all is and tries something else.
 
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Piga Dgrifm said:
Here's the one where he says the MLP episode gave him depression. Starts about 16 minutes in. He puts that instrumental all the creepypasta YouTubers use in the background of it for some reason.

Even still, the best we can hope for there is that, once he sees everything out in clear view like that, he realizes how fucked up it all is and tries something else.
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Didn't he say he had a current bible but that he wasn't showing it to anyone because ???
I mean, he had a bare bones bible way back before the novel. And with all the scripts public I don't see a need for him to hide anything. I feel like Enter sometimes lies or exaggerates to save face. Probably didn't realize the importance of a bible until somebody pointed it out to him, then he realized he'd be a laughingstock if he didn't have one.

Also that thumbnail looks like Rainbow Dash is cumming on Twilight.
 
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coach_mclurk said:
Didn't he say he had a current bible but that he wasn't showing it to anyone because ???
I mean, he had a bare bones bible way back before the novel. And with all the scripts public I don't see a need for him to hide anything. I feel like Enter sometimes lies or exaggerates to save face. Probably didn't realize the importance of a bible until somebody pointed it out to him, then he realized he'd be a laughingstock if he didn't have one.

Also that thumbnail looks like Rainbow Dash is cumming on Twilight.
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It was years ago that he claimed this, and I've never seen any sign of one existing, nor heard him say that he has one since then. I think he just lied that he had one way back when to get people to leave him alone about it.
 
I feel like it's worth noting that even Enter himself couldn't fill out his Atrocity pages properly. He would sometimes realize he was exaggerating and give whatever he was reviewing a slightly better score.
 
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He could make Growing Around be about a dystopia where kids are the bad guys and adults are the freedom fighters.
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South Park did an episode using the same kind of concept on that with "The Wacky Molestation Adventure". Don't think anything Entard could do would even scratch that.

Dude is having problems and I don't think in our current climate of TV/Streaming he's gonna get a chance to make this show even hit anyone. Most shows now rely on connections and publicity. The closest actual successes I've seen with this more recently is PsychicPebbles/Michael Cusack's Smiling Friends. Which premiered on Adult Swim and has been getting lots of publicity, and even then PP had associations with Hellbenders(Believed was pitched to Adult Swim but didn't make ground), had helped storyboard Spongebob, and MC had directed an special Rick and Morty episode.

Entard isn't gonna get anywhere without connections and the most people know him for are Animated Atrocities (In a bad light btw) and most animation youtubers saying at best "He's not as bad as he was before, but still has problems". Not exactly the most helpful when it comes to it.
 
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LiquidKid said:
If Disney couldn’t make it work, there was no chance in hell of anyone else making it work
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The idea could work, but not as anything remotely appropriate for children. The only way I could see this situation working would be an incredibly surreal, R-rated black comedy about how children are useless stupid shits. Perhaps just by tweaking it and making all the adults manchildren, and showing what a horrible world it would be as infrastructure fails and people get into knife fights over tendies and blow all their money on fursuits. Actual children would barely exist and would probably die messily on screen (a la Kenny from South Park) just to highlight the lack of actual childhood innocence possessed.
 
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Dr W said:
The idea could work, but not as anything remotely appropriate for children. The only way I could see this situation working would be an incredibly surreal, R-rated black comedy about how children are useless stupid shits. Perhaps just by tweaking it and making all the adults manchildren, and showing what a horrible world it would be as infrastructure fails and people get into knife fights over tendies and blow all their money on fursuits. Actual children would barely exist and would probably die messily on screen (a la Kenny from South Park) just to highlight the lack of actual childhood innocence possessed.
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No, there is literally no feasible way to make this concept work. Not as a horror, not as a black comedy, nothing.
People bring up children of the corn and lord of the flies, but do you know what the difference was in those? A lack of adults. Once you add adults with a 2 - 1 ratio, there’s no way to keep kids in power. Even Enter’s child militia thing wouldn’t work because adults just plain have more experience, stronger bodies, and a higher level of intelligence. Plus, why would you just give up freedom willingly once you get to a certain age?
Any child run society is doomed to fail, and any kids ruling adults fantasy would never work without the magic. Even KND had the adults break slavery by spanking the children. And GA would probably end like Beware Children at Play.
This concept is impossible to work with. Period.

 
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LiquidKid said:
No, there is literally no feasible way to make this concept work. Not as a horror, not as a black comedy, nothing.
People bring up children of the corn and lord of the flies, but do you know what the difference was in those? A lack of adults. Once you add adults with a 2 - 1 ratio, there’s no way to keep kids in power. Even Enter’s child militia thing wouldn’t work because adults just plain have more experience, stronger bodies, and a higher level of intelligence. Plus, why would you just give up freedom willingly once you get to a certain age?
Any child run society is doomed to fail, and any kids ruling adults fantasy would never work without the magic. Even KND had the adults break slavery by spanking the children. And GA would probably end like Beware Children at Play.
This concept is impossible to work with. Period.

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I said that it was MANchildren running the world, not literal children, and that literal children exist solely to be the butts of jokes and a means of pointing out that although people pretend like they never grow up, they're still adults even though they act childishly. That the entire point of this pseudo GA setting is that childhood is irreversibly lost with time, regardless of your activities or refusal to grow up.

The entire concept isn't "children" but "immature people" running the world, with the "matures" as the slave caste. Perhaps it's people with superpowers who are also retards, perhaps it's inbred "let them eat cake" tier Hapsburgian monstrosities with piles and piles of money. Perhaps it's just wealthy consoomer manchildren with connections to an unseen elite caste that is surmised to be competent.

The concept of the "immature" running the world is a sound one for black comedy or political satire and it is that concept, not literal children running the world, that can be salvaged from this clusterfuck of GA or Flip Flopped. It is this concept I considered viable, and I do apologize for not being clear about that distinction.
 
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