The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

We have about a month before we know what will happen. Sony won't kill the studio before the game is released.

Druckman may wind up getting Cliffy B'd.

I would say Kojima'd since he ran up the bill so high just like Hideo did at Konami, but Kojima didn't sperg out when people were mixed on Death Stranding. He was far more professional and was rather humbled.
Kojima made a passion project honestly, and since Sony wasn't telling him no he went all out, let the man make what he wanted then once they maybe get stuff back from Konami start limiting what Kojima is allowed to do, but Kojima at least can still make a good story, even if it is super confusing.
 
There's going to be hardware shortages for sure, Japan wants sony back making hardware on their shores. That's going to take time and effort to relocate shit especially since the virus is still affecting long distance shipping and cargo by land and sea.

They're saying 6 million will be the most available at launch for the entire globe.
Optimistically it'll be the Switch all over again.

Worst case Japan gets it's shit punched in by the Bat Flu and the PS5 gets delayed to early next year.

Plus there's the economic fall out if the world economy goes into another great recession thanks to Ms. Kung Flu I can't see anyone willing to shell out 400$+ for a new console.
 
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I love how everyone's bashing the hell out of Naughty Dog. Ya love to see it.
 
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Optimistically it'll be the Switch all over again.

Worst case Japan gets it's shit punched in by the Bat Flu and the PS5 gets delayed to early next year.

Plus there's the economic fall out if the world economy goes into another great recession thanks to Ms. Kung Flu I can't see anyone willing to shell out 400$+ for a new console.
The primary console market is the US and all console manufacturers make 80% of their profit from there in both hardware and software.

Unless you're Dragon Quest.
 
Metroid Prime was released 4 consoles ago.
That's the problem, they only have any of the Metroid Prime and new Donkey Kong games to their name, plus the one time they did Mario Kart. Their last game came out six years ago which was dong freeze. They didn't do this to Rare and they had a few original IPs plus Nintendo properties on a good schedule.

There's going to be hardware shortages for sure, Japan wants sony back making hardware on their shores. That's going to take time and effort to relocate shit especially since the virus is still affecting long distance shipping and cargo by land and sea.

They're saying 6 million will be the most available at launch for the entire globe.
The virus is much more likely to hurt the console than TLoU. The game bombing won't do much to the PS5 I think.
 
These people think just because there's a fat girl NPC in final fantasy 7R with an exposed belly and hotpants this means Square Enix is fully onboard with the Health At Any Size movement and are crypto-feminists.

That's the oneangrygamer site and you forgot to add to blame the jews , black people, and women too.

There's going to be hardware shortages for sure, Japan wants sony back making hardware on their shores. That's going to take time and effort to relocate shit especially since the virus is still affecting long distance shipping and cargo by land and sea.

They're saying 6 million will be the most available at launch for the entire globe.

Of course there will be shortages, there's always 'shortages' every time a new console is released. Every. Single.Fucking.Time.


Where are you finding that there will be full shortages and not artifical bullshit shortages like every damn year? The hard stuff is already made and printed, all CPU work is already taped and printed, this was done last year accordingly to AMD's request for more wafer from foundries. Adored.tv has the particulars there. Global Foundries and TSMC are still on full production.

Microsoft and Sony share basically the same CPU/Video card and tracing is comparable to each other. There is likely less than 10% real difference between the two at a hardware level, with sony allowing you to upgrade the HD and MS charging you for a Hard Drive "port". The rest of the bits are commodity that any manufacturer in AsiaPac can make (Vietnam, Taiwan, Thailand, etc.)

No. Sony knows that in order to keep their market share they must release at the same time or shortly thereafter as MS and vice versa. Anything less and the companies risk market share loss that is unrecoverable for this generation.

Long term plans to onshore production? Yes, that'd be wise, for both companies.
 
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That's the problem, they only have any of the Metroid Prime and new Donkey Kong games to their name, plus the one time they did Mario Kart. Their last game came out six years ago which was dong freeze. They didn't do this to Rare and they had a few original IPs plus Nintendo properties on a good schedule.


The virus is much more likely to hurt the console than TLoU. The game bombing won't do much to the PS5 I think.
It won't Sony is already pushing Ghosts and the next two Horizon Zero Dawn games.

God of War is supposed to have a sequel reveal at around late June Early July.

That's just their first party stuff, other games will be coming.
 
The primary console market is the US and all console manufacturers make 80% of their profit from there in both hardware and software.

Unless you're Dragon Quest.
Didn't you say they plan to make this thing in Japan though or is their plan to move production back to Japan during the PS5's life cycle?

That's what I was referring to plus if the world economy crashes again US gamers and normies won't be willing to shell out the cash for awhile I think.
 
I'm sorry, but if you doubt these leaks you're an idiot. They're fully edited motion capture scenes complete with voice acting. One full minute of that for a AAA game is like 10 to 20k, not even counting the man hours done to integrate it. You're talking about hours of this stuff being released, Sony DMCAing everyone, Naughty Dog asking for it not to be spoiled. This wouldn't happen if they were fake or half-assed. This isn't some green text from 4chan. Only someone working intimately on the game would have this. Its utterly impossible otherwise. The leaks are real. And its too late in the development process to revamp it. They might as a response, since its overwhelmingly negative. But good luck with that, as most of the senior staff left.

And to expect the leaker to give his name is absolute insanity. Balls? Jesus fucking christ. You're legitimately rétarded if this is the standard of evidence you want. You can't think logically or critically. He's not going to give his fucking name because the courts would ass rape him into the dirt, he'd possibly go to jail and fuck his family over for life. Its also possible he had help from other employees which may put their careers in danger. Its not a matter of having 'balls', its a matter of protecting yourself. Why don't all whistle blowers who possess dangerous information give their full name and address while we're at it. Jesus.

Its obvious that he had help and a mass of unpaid, disgruntled workers with a shitty corporate culture is going to lead to a mutiny. Its called hiding a leaf in the forest. Someone took one for the team and leaked everything that was given to him. And he's probably not even linked to the information he leaked, which would protect him. This is a simple, classic strategy. And I doubt he's dumb enough to leave evidence. Since there are masses of unpaid, disgruntled, angry employees with access to the material, its impossible to single any one of them out. And they probably weren't dumb enough to use work emails. It is also entirely possible none of them even work there anymore. Good luck getting people who hate you to cooperate with an internal investigation who no longer work for you without a court order.

And this was obviously over a pay dispute. The intentions are to ruin it financially. If the game had been good, it would have been so much harder to do this much damage. But that was Druckman's hubris. So the egotistical faggot got taken out by the employees he abused and his 'masterpiece' is being shit on by everyone. No, there's absolutely NO MOTIVE here for someone for the company to leak it. God forbid.
 
Didn't you say they plan to make this thing in Japan though or is their plan to move production back to Japan during the PS5's life cycle?

That's what I was referring to plus if the world economy crashes again US gamers and normies won't be willing to shell out the cash for awhile I think.
Different things entirely.

Manufacturing will go on in japan(instead of china), but the PS5 was designed by Americans for Americans. The united States Playstation Division is what saved the PS3 and designed the PS4.
 
That's the problem, they only have any of the Metroid Prime and new Donkey Kong games to their name, plus the one time they did Mario Kart. Their last game came out six years ago which was dong freeze. They didn't do this to Rare and they had a few original IPs plus Nintendo properties on a good schedule.


The virus is much more likely to hurt the console than TLoU. The game bombing won't do much to the PS5 I think.
Pretty sure they wanted to do Tropical Freeze though. I'm sure they weren't unhappy having Metroid either. Rumors are whatever they've been working on for so long is new.
 
These people think just because there's a fat girl NPC in final fantasy 7R with an exposed belly and hotpants this means Square Enix is fully onboard with the Health At Any Size movement and are crypto-feminists.

I mean, they have given in to their ethics department to remove one of the draws of the OG. You have a weird blind spot for SE, they're garbage and maybe even worse than Naughty Dog.

I have yet to see Naughty Dog release a completely broken game and still charge full price for it without a patch TWICE.
 
Different things entirely.

Manufacturing will go on in japan(instead of china), but the PS5 was designed by Americans for Americans. The united States Sony Division is what saved the PS3 and designed the PS4.
Well if Corona Chan thoroughly ass rapes Japan's manufacturing sector they won't be able to build the thing I think.

That's what I was referring to I mean some fall anime is getting delayed into early Spring next year because Japan's going into Quarantine like the US and China did.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 
I mean, they have given in to their ethics department to remove one of the draws of the OG. You have a weird blind spot for SE, they're garbage and maybe even worse than Naughty Dog.

I have yet to see Naughty Dog release a completely broken game and still charge full price for it without a patch TWICE.
MMOs by design are broken and unfinished.

This is why MMos are trash.
 
MMOs by design are broken and unfinished.

This is why MMos are trash.

I'm not talking about their MMOs, I'm talking about Nier Automata. They released a broken PC port, released no patches, told Platinum Games to pack it up and move on.....and then they had the balls to release a GOTY version with no patches. Square Enix is utter fucking garbage and so is all the "talent" they think they have there with the knucklehead Nomura and gang.
 
I'm sorry, but if you doubt these leaks you're an idiot. They're fully edited motion capture scenes complete with voice acting. One full minute of that for a AAA game is like 10 to 20k, not even counting the man hours done to integrate it. You're talking about hours of this stuff being released, Sony DMCAing everyone, Naughty Dog asking for it not to be spoiled. This wouldn't happen if they were fake or half-assed. This isn't some green text from 4chan. Only someone working intimately on the game would have this. Its utterly impossible otherwise. The leaks are real. And its too late in the development process to revamp it. They might as a response, since its overwhelmingly negative. But good luck with that, as most of the senior staff left.

And to expect the leaker to give his name is absolute insanity. Balls? Jesus fucking christ. You're legitimately rétarded if this is the standard of evidence you want. You can't think logically or critically. He's not going to give his fucking name because the courts would ass rape him into the dirt, he'd possibly go to jail and fuck his family over for life. Its also possible he had help from other employees which may put their careers in danger. Its not a matter of having 'balls', its a matter of protecting yourself. Why don't all whistle blowers who possess dangerous information give their full name and address while we're at it. Jesus.

Its obvious that he had help and a mass of unpaid, disgruntled workers with a shitty corporate culture is going to lead to a mutiny. Its called hiding a leaf in the forest. Someone took one for the team and leaked everything that was given to him. And he's probably not even linked to the information he leaked, which would protect him. This is a simple, classic strategy. And I doubt he's dumb enough to leave evidence. Since there are masses of unpaid, disgruntled, angry employees with access to the material, its impossible to single any one of them out. And they probably weren't dumb enough to use work emails. It is also entirely possible none of them even work there anymore. Good luck getting people who hate you to cooperate with an internal investigation who no longer work for you without a court order.

And this was obviously over a pay dispute. The intentions are to ruin it financially. If the game had been good, it would have been so much harder to do this much damage. But that was Druckman's hubris. So the egotistical faggot got taken out by the employees he abused and his 'masterpiece' is being shit on by everyone. No, there's absolutely NO MOTIVE here for someone for the company to leak it. God forbid.
But Jason the writer of the Kotakus and the Bloombergs said that Naughty Dog treats their employees like family and that the Developers hes talked to are totally telling the absolute truth about their situation in Naughty Dog.

The defense of Naughty Dog and these leaks is absolutely pathetic and very entertaining.
 
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