Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

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Note the goalpost moving going on here.

Before: Hurr durr I need srs to be happy!1

After: I need more plastic surgery & a new name but then I will finally be happy & a totally different person!1

Too bad he doesn't realize that plastic surgery doesn't cure mental illness.
It follows him wherever he goes and there is no way to hide. He can't kill it by cutting off body parts. No matter how often he tries to re-invent himself - it's there. Always.
 
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Noelle could 100% pass in every way (he won't) and still be the depressed, angry tumblr SJW that he is. Real life is the biggest Terf transphobe of them all. At best with a lot of surgery he could end up with a ContraPoints face, which we all know isn't that great at all.
I'm just waiting for him to start blaming his parents for not transing him out younger, which is funny because even the people who do trans younger never turn out to be stunners who are 100% passing.
More then anything Noelle is a huge asshole. If he does find a dude into a non-passing trans women with neo-vagina, unless he finds a SJW who believes everything Noelle believes he's going to be single really quick. His best bet is another transwoman with a dick or a trans man.
He seems like he constantly needs to be validated and gets triggered over every single thing. How many friends has Noelle lost because they don't agree with every single belief he has?
Before anything he needs to get help mentally.
 
Note the goalpost moving going on here.

Before: Hurr durr I need srs to be happy!1

After: I need more plastic surgery & a new name but then I will finally be happy & a totally different person!1

Too bad he doesn't realize that plastic surgery doesn't cure mental illness.
It follows him wherever he goes and there is no way to hide. He can't kill it by cutting off body parts. No matter how often he tries to re-invent himself - it's there. Always.

I think doctors hawking trans surgery need to have a spokesman like the Italy tourism spokesman in this SNL skit. "If you're sad now with a penis, you'll sill be the same sad you, even if you cut it off. We can give you a fake vagina, we can't fix the mental issues and childhood trauma that made you want a fake vagina in the first place."
 
It started kicking off in Sweden around March last year. General overview from the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/society...nage-transgender-row-dysphoria-diagnoses-soar
Swedish documentary from last year:

I’m sure there was a doctor who resigned from one of the clinics in protest but I don’t speak Swedish and can’t find it now (will edit to add if I do). Possibly mixed it up with the UK, either way no official has said “we dun goofed“ but the general sentiment has shifted from ‘everything is a hate crime’ to ‘this is fucked up’.
This is a bit off-topic but finally remembered: the Swedish medical and ethical council wrote a letter in early 2019, saying the issue (trooning out children) needs to be reviewed, and suggested 3 different bodies do that. One of them was the Swedish pedeatric society, and they wrote a statement saying (google translate): “The physical and psychological maturation process of children and adolescents is individual, but for the vast majority of people it means seeking and experimenting with identities, something that is normal and needs to be done with the nuanced support of the child's relatives. The rules of society need to balance the child's own rights against the child's protection needs. Giving children the right to make life-changing decisions independently that cannot be expected to understand the consequences at a similar age is not scientifically founded and is contrary to medical practice.”
https://www.barnlakarforeningen.se/...g-bakom-smers-skrivelse-angaende-konsdysfori/
the med/ethics council organised a “youth dialogue” event around the end of 2019 according to their website, then held a seminar this February http://www.smer.se/nyheter/seminari...dysfori-kunskap-etik-och-barnets-rattigheter/
So, yeah :optimistic:
 
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More telling shit on Noelle's tumblr. Noelle should be lumped in with Jazz on this thread imo. Even if he's a typical sad tumblr troon, he's important in a study of how this shit impacts young people.

Noelle claims it was “legally mandated” to attend therapy? That seems pretty sketch. There’s no legal mandate in Florida requiring minors attend therapy to qualify for SRS that I can find at the time Noelle got his. Insurance companies, sure, but the state? Bah who am I kidding this kid is a fucking idiot.

But I hate this shit groups like Mermaids and WPATH pull— lying to the public that these people go through years of therapy and are thoroughly vetted for a GD diagnosis, hormones, and therapy.

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Why can't troons pick a non-exceptional name and settle on it?

Also, he made a post shilling North Korea.

Apparently Noelle has never heard the phrase “Wherever you go, there you are”
 
Noelle claims it was “legally mandated” to attend therapy? That seems pretty sketch. There’s no legal mandate in Florida requiring minors attend therapy to qualify for SRS that I can find at the time Noelle got his. Insurance companies, sure, but the state? Bah who am I kidding this kid is a fucking idiot.

But I hate this shit groups like Mermaids and WPATH pull— lying to the public that these people go through years of therapy and are thoroughly vetted for a GD diagnosis, hormones, and therapy.



Apparently Noelle has never heard the phrase “Wherever you go, there you are”

Everything I read 30 years ago about adult transgederism, from anecdotal info to scientific literature, all standard practice was several years in intensive therapy until a decision to chop was made. Seems it's been fast-tracked in present time and now we have this lunacy.
 
Everything I read 30 years ago about adult transgederism, from anecdotal info to scientific literature, all standard practice was several years in intensive therapy until a decision to chop was made. Seems it's been fast-tracked in present time and now we have this lunacy.

Not only that. They demand you to live as your new gender for at least half a year so you get used to what your life will be. I remember I saw that on tv about 20 years ago and close to 5 in a youtube video about some transgender who was still in pre-op therapy. So it's not even that rare.

Jazz didn't need that because he's been groomed into being a girl since he was practically a baby. He doesn't know how to be a boy, so he can skip that. And as many young people simply "perform" their gender before even consider surgery, that's covered too. I guess in Jazz' case, therapy isn't required because they all were so sure what he wanted. And isn't a good look to have him having doubts or reconsideration.

As for Noelle, I'm sure they don't care. He's just there to be "Jazz's friend". Nobody in that show cares about his feelings or sake, only to get his money so they can chop him too.
 
They demand you to live as your new gender for at least half a year so you get used to what your life will be

30 years ago it was a full year. I remember bathrooms were a question for them in therapy, but didn't seem a huge problem with the dressing to pass. It could have just been they didn't want to put that out there and record that info as a problem. It seems it's the only thing the SJW focuses on now so maybe it was a big fear that was downplayed in all the stuff I came across. Kinda how they downplay the sterilizing/non-maturing brain/body health risk thing in kids now with the puberty blockers. Idk it could be my memory sucks so bad I'm not remembering the details of the context of the bathrooms. But this kid trooning shit sucks.


It's hard to tell with Noelle whether he is as enmeshed with his mother as Jazz is. It doesn't seem so but we can't truly know. If he's not, his 41% will undoubtedly be sooner than Jazz. Jeannette will drag that enmeshment out as long as the bitch is alive. Noelle seems utterly miserable while Jazz seems more frantic- a couple of steps of emotional fuckery before Noelle.
 
Not only that. They demand you to live as your new gender for at least half a year so you get used to what your life will be. I remember I saw that on tv about 20 years ago and close to 5 in a youtube video about some transgender who was still in pre-op therapy. So it's not even that rare.
Some trans activist groups ree about how that's "gatekeeping" and bad, but really it's just necessary. You don't go making major changes to your body unless you're damn sure it's what you want. But, now we have people saying you can just take hormones on a whim and see how that feels even though it's going to be permanent.

(You'd think they'd realize how that's a bad idea since it's going to give people dysphoria, which they've lived with themselves and know how it feels, but whatever.)
 
Sadly, to a certain extent, Jazz and Noelle are kind of products of their generation which doesn't remember and probably cannot fathom life without social media and constant internet access. I personally think that in addition to the hormone blockers, social media in many ways has contributed to Jazz and his ilk (and many non-troon kids of this generation as well) being socially stunted.

Those of us who graduated high school and came of age before about 2010 or so (I graduated in 2006), think back for a minute. We all remember that kid or group of kids in junior high or high school that just HAD to be different to get attention. They may have purposely espoused unpopular opinions, dressed strangely or inappropriately, dyed their hair stupid colors, etc. When nobody paid attention or lost interest in one of their antics, they moved onto the next gimmick, and the next, and the next, not unlike a munchie cycling through "diseases". Such kids were often not well-liked because it was obvious that the only statement they were making was "Look at me! I'm a non-conformist! Fuck society!". No one saw them as cool or edgy or activists, just harmless but annoying pains in the ass. Now think back to those same kids during the last few years of high school. Most of them weren't doing those things anymore, were they? And if they were, they did so on a much smaller level. It was like sometime during the summer between junior and senior year, they had an epiphany and realized that dying their hair turquoise or dressing in all black all the time wasn't going to get them very far as they looked toward their future. Such changes could also have come about more practically, such as wanting to get a particular job but finding out that their unnatural hair color violated the dress code policy and deciding "A paycheck is more important than turquoise hair. I'll go back to my natural color and wearing more appropriate clothes.". Most of us from these generations have no memory of doing these thing ourselves because — barring some type of obvious developmental disability or delay — such epiphanies were generally seen as a given. It's called maturation or growing up. There was no choice but to straighten up and fly right. We certainly weren't fully mature by any means at 18 or 19, but we at least had some of the basics or were in the process of learning them.

The current Tumblr generation doesn't seem to achieve this milestone of "putting away their childhood toys", so to speak. Or if they do, it's much later than we ever did. Because they have constant access to the internet and social media, they don't learn to listen to and consider others' opinions and feelings because they know that whenever something doesn't go their way, they can just whip out their phone, go onto Tumblr or any other echo chamber and get instant validation. They're not learning as we did that life isn't fair and that sometimes you just have to deal with disappointment and get over it. Parents don't put their foot down anymore because "experts" label them as abusers if they do. These kids never learn how to view the world in shades of gray because Tumblr paints everything as a dichotomy ("If you don't agree with everything I say, you're an oppressor and we can never be friends."). This stunts most kids anyway, but because of Jazz being put on puberty blockers, she is frozen at about 9 or 10 whereas most Tumblrinas seem closer to 14 or 15.

TL/DR: Constant social media seems to be stunting the development of younger people because they can retreat into their echo chamber at any time instead of actually facing life's challenges and learning healthy coping mechanisms like previous generations had to.
 
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It's hard to tell with Noelle whether he is as enmeshed with his mother as Jazz is. It doesn't seem so but we can't truly know. If he's not, his 41% will undoubtedly be sooner than Jazz. Jeannette will drag that enmeshment out as long as the bitch is alive. Noelle seems utterly miserable while Jazz seems more frantic- a couple of steps of emotional fuckery before Noelle.

It's, I guess, because Jazz and Noelle don't have to worry about the same things, even though their personalities are based on being trans. Jazz has never experienced any real struggle in his life. He doesn't have to worry about college, food, rent. His surgery was likely paid by the show or with the money they made with the show. Of course he only has to worry about what dress should he wear next. And even if he ever needs a romantic partner, his fame's gonna help him to get whatever he wants.

Noelle isn't the same. He's gonna have to find a job at some point, and being trans puts a lot of limitations. And without a job, you don't have money. And without money, you can't eat. That's another reason why troons end up 41%ing. Not because "oh, society hates me!" but because they put themselves in a very vulnerable position and society can't help more than it's allowed for them to help.
 
Someone could do a deep dive on troon culture and cults.

When Noelle says that he's straight/gay/Marxist/Muslim/whatever, I wonder how much of that is the product of genuine soul searching and how much of that is "This is the kind of #content I am expected to espouse to fit in with the other cult members."

Like the "Die Cis Scum" shit is an extremist perspective when viewed from normal society, but as a way of determining who is in the group or not, it's like the "Heil Hitler" of a Nazi. Most people aren't going to click their heels together and throw their arm up, but when you meet someone who does, they're fam.

Embracing the group identity allows lost people to put an external structure (and if you give me a pot cookie, I might argue a religious or metaphysical overlay) on their internal lives, but it does so at the price of alienation from most people outside the group.

I need to re-read "War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning." One choice quote from the book is, "Radical politics fills empty lives."

For a lot of these peeps, troonery is a force that gives them meaning.
 
Everything I read 30 years ago about adult transgederism, from anecdotal info to scientific literature, all standard practice was several years in intensive therapy until a decision to chop was made. Seems it's been fast-tracked in present time and now we have this lunacy.
They use gender clinics and such to bypass these things now. Technically those clinics are breaking their ethical codes, but until the mass reporting begins when we see the fallout nothing will happen.
 
He can get someone who just want to stick around to be famous. Even try sex. If his vagina explodes, that's a different matter. I wuoldn't do it, but I what do I know, I'm sane.
I wonder if there'll be an "open relationship" plotline. Just get some fame-seeker who still wants real pussy on the side. Jazz might not even get jealous, since he's pre-pubescent and could probably be bought off with toys/dresses/whatever.
 
I wonder if there'll be an "open relationship" plotline. Just get some fame-seeker who still wants real pussy on the side. Jazz might not even get jealous, since he's pre-pubescent and could probably be bought off with toys/dresses/whatever.

You're assuming that pre-pubescent means easily bought off with material things. Say what you will about Jazz, his clothing choices are very low-maintenance and he doesn't seem fascinated with the shiny. I think he's looking for emotional intimacy and would be swayed by a substitute mom.
 
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