The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

Once again, you make this assertion, but the facts do not support it by any metric. GTA IV, the top selling ps3 game, granted, it is a multiplat, sold 25 million copies on the ps3. The top 5 best selling wii games all sold more. The wii had 17 games that sold over 5 million copies, the ps3 had 11. The wii had 55 games that sold over 1 million copies, the ps3 had 35.
Yes, the ps3 had some really good games, but liking them doesn't mean it wasn't a MASSIVE financial blunder that sony still hasn't fully recovered from.
Are you going by the wikipedia list? there's a few things there marked as unreliable sources. Because they also didn't count downloads IIRC.
 
They retreat now? I kind of liked it when their heads were just a popped kernel of popcorn with fungus and a mouth.

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I do think that at least in the gameplay department it will be better than the first 1. However no ione plays modern ND games for the gameplay. The games modern ND makes live or die by spectacle, story and characters I have no doubt that ND will have spectacle locked down but from whats been leak story and characters are a failure. So whats left is a pretty looking game with above average gameplay and piss poor writing. Not worth 60 dollars.
 
Thought it was known that E3 gameplays aren't an exact reflection of what the finished game is gonna look like, just something shiny to get out to the public and lure people in.

True. A lot of E3 demos are what's called a "vertical slice". Devs often burn themselves out just to try and make them as impressive as possible, even if the rest of the game isn't anywhere near finished yet. This infamously happened with Halo 2, and Bungie ended up tossing the entire level from the E3 '03 demo and remaking it from scratch, as well as retooling the engine.



The whole thing was scripted from end to end. The Brute boarding sequence was so janky, they had a scripted trigger set up where shooting the hog would make the Brute jump off. The whole thing had lighting and reflection effects that only ran well on devkits, and the actual consumer Xbox hardware was completely incapable of achieving a playable framerate with them. Simply making this demo set Bungie back months.
 
The wii burned the hell out real quick, it was the Tickle me Elmo of consoles. It's software sales from anything past launch daste were not that good and the system fucking chugged for games like Last Story. Infact if you ran at max speed the character would outpace on how quick the game could load the world and you would be in a void. The PS3 and Xbox 360 had actual staying power and a consistant release schedule.

Wii games, gamestop were offloading for next to nothing. Because that's how I got Dokapon kingdom for free with a BOGO.

This is just blatantly untrue.

The top 10 sellers here - https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/wii.html

Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl released in 2008, Wii Sports Resort and New Super Mario Bros. Wii released in 2009, Wii Party released in 2010. Unless you consider the launch period to be the first 4 years of the console's lifespan... ?
 
If I had to guess, and I haven't played the game, they'll probably make it an option to let Abby win and then just have an identical game after that choice except maybe a few parts.

At this point, trying to cram in any last-minute changes would amount to pouring oil on the dumpster fire.
It'd delay the release again, especially if Druckmann tries to keep his "vision" intact.

And it's uncertain whether making the ending optional would do them any good.
For one, players would still be stuck playing half the game as Abby. A character whose only connection to the first game is an NPC with one line of dialogue.
In other words, her relevance to the existing story is non-existent, and some weepy flashbacks about her dead NPC won't make players care for her either.
It doesn't work like that, much less with a gender-confused abomination who just murdered the main character.

Secondly, a blind man could've seen that the audience would hate that ending. Naughty Dog and Sony had years to come to that realisation and correct their course.
And yet, nobody did, due to arrogance or sheer stupidity. That doesn't bode well for the yet unseen parts of the game.
I bet it's going to be a disaster in all respects, except for the visuals.
 
>Niggers in this thread arguing about Sony's consoles like they mattered after the PS2
Who cares about whatever sales. We're trying to have a circlejerk about how fucking stupid this game is going to be and any numbers not relating to the money Sony and KD are losing off this are turn-offs. You should go play game historians somewhere else.
 
This is just blatantly untrue.

The top 10 sellers here - https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/wii.html

Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl released in 2008, Wii Sports Resort and New Super Mario Bros. Wii released in 2009, Wii Party released in 2010. Unless you consider the launch period to be the first 4 years of the console's lifespan... ?
Sir most of those are exercise bullshit, one game is based on rubberbanding AI and the other is autism incarnate that eventually consumed and destroyed the FGC. I think the only generally good game on there was Mario galaxy 2.

Most gamers with a Hard R, would rightfully turn up their jalapeno ranch cheeto stained nose upon such offerings.

I didn't buy wiifit because I knew the board would just collect dust next to my Donkey Kong Bongos.

>Niggers in this thread arguing about Sony's consoles like they mattered after the PS2
Who cares about whatever sales. We're trying to have a circlejerk about how fucking stupid this game is going to be and any numbers not relating to the money Sony and KD are losing off this are turn-offs. You should go play game historians somewhere else.
Look we're talking about flast chested things that fell equally flat on their faces, both lesbians and exercise boards. It also doesn't help that the TLOU2 have characters that make dead lifeless squares of plastic seem more lively.
 
7 years and millions of dollars and they made something that visually looks bland, is a mess storywise and made no real improvements to the gameplay.

A real testament to realism.
The fuck does realism have to do with shit here? I have no real clue on any of the Last of Us lore and whatnot, but if any of this was real life Ellie would kick the crap out this of random dyke,
 
>Niggers in this thread arguing about Sony's consoles like they mattered after the PS2
Who cares about whatever sales. We're trying to have a circlejerk about how fucking stupid this game is going to be and any numbers not relating to the money Sony and KD are losing off this are turn-offs. You should go play game historians somewhere else.
Seriously, this console-war bullshit isn't the point of this thread. The point was to discuss the game, then it was to laugh at it after the leak.
 
This is just blatantly untrue.

The top 10 sellers here - https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/wii.html

Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl released in 2008, Wii Sports Resort and New Super Mario Bros. Wii released in 2009, Wii Party released in 2010. Unless you consider the launch period to be the first 4 years of the console's lifespan... ?
He clearly was referring to third party games, which completely failed on the wii. The people who bought a Wii were either non-gamers attracted to the novelty or Nintendo fans who will always buy Nintendo consoles so they can play Zelda, Mario, SSB, Metroid etc and basically nothing else. I am to understand that the COD wii games did ok, but there is a reason they gave up after COD 4.
 
Stealth combat vs Ellie.

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If it were me and I were playing this game, I would just stop right after Dick Splitem here gets her face blown apart and just pretend everything's happily ever after with Ellie and her lesbian girlfriend as she raises her girlfriend's son.

Hell, that right there is a better ending than the stupid shit this game tries to do.
 
My take on the whole situation is that the reason why the games is turning out the way it is is because Druckmann has basically been given free reign to do whatever he wants with this project without anyone to balance out his artistic tendencies.

With the first game and also Uncharted 4: A Thief's End, from what I can tell he had other people who more or less reigned him in in order to make something that wasn't a complete clusterfuck. But with this new game he doesn't have anyone like that so it basically amount to the realization of his uninhibited creative impulses.

This is why I've always stressed the importance of collaboration during the creative process of art: you need to have other people to act as a soundboard for your ideas and work with them so that you can create something that is fully polished and palatable to a mass audience. IMO it's part of the reason why Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are so good: sure, Vince Gilligan created them and serves as the primary creative voice present in the finished work, but he works with a talented team of writers who play a critical role in making sure he's able to present the best version of his artistic vision to the world.*

With Naughty Dog, however, they've more or less purged anyone from the studio who doesn't share their woke ideology, so what you've got is a bunch of yes men who just go along with whatever their boss says.

*Another good example would be the original Star Wars trilogy vs. the prequels. With the former, George Lucas had a lot of people around him who helped iron out the rough patches, whereas with the latter he was surrounded by yes men.
 
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