Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[ShirleyUJest]

Michigan, USA

I have a summary, in the reopenings thread, of our legislature's lawsuit against our governor, with locally hosted PDF, for any interested Michiganders or amateur law enthusiasts.
Rundown on the laws producing our current situation.
Full PDF of the lawsuit on Scribd.
Summary in the reopenings thread.

Some choice quotes from the lawsuit:










>Inb4 "Isn't this the one who closed all the courts so no one can sue her?"
What she actually did was suspend "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" until the emergency is over. Whitmer - Executive Order 2020-58 (COVID-19) (archive)

Spoiler: LEGALESE

1. Consistent with Michigan Supreme Court Administrative Order No. 2020-3, all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings, including but not limited to any deadline for the filing of an initial pleading and any statutory notice provision or other prerequisite related to the deadline for filing of such a pleading, are suspended as of March 10, 2020 and shall be tolled until the end of the declared states of disaster and emergency.
2. Consistent with Michigan Supreme Court Administrative Order No. 2020-3, this order does not prohibit or restrict a litigant from commencing an action or proceeding whenever the litigant may choose, nor does it suspend or toll any time period that must elapse before the commencement of an action or proceeding.
3. This order is effective immediately.

I don't know enough about the law to say whether this could have been intended to, or will actually have the effect of, delaying this and other lawsuits against Governor Whitmer and her recent executive orders. If someone does know, the information would be greatly appreciated.

Impeach the cunt already.

 

[Otterly]

Looks like lockdown is indeed pointless and banning mass gatherings and upping hygiene are enough:

Has Britain's coronavirus lockdown worked?

The University of East Anglia team say relaxing stay-at-home orders and letting some businesses reopen could be the UK's first step to easing lockdown.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Archive:https://archive.li/EXqDs

however this is the bit that caught my eye and gave me a laugh:
“Dr Joshua Moon, of the University of Sussex Business School, noted that differences in testing rates and strategies in each country would have an impact on the number of cases.”

Is null moonlighting in Brighton, the UK capital of Woke? Enquiring minds need to know.

 

[off meds / online]

So hey, can one or more of you autists put my mind at ease?

I've been hearing about potentially permanent damage inflicted to the body by Corona-chan, but... that's only likely in cases of very severe symptoms, right?

according to this article from johns-hopkins, the permanent damage is usually caused by diseases/conditions that are considered complications of COVID. sepsis is the big one, but not super common. however, pulmonary scarring can be a result of severe COVID cases, it's far less likely to occur in mild cases.

What Coronavirus Does to the Lungs

COVID-19 can cause lung damage and breathing problems that can persist even after recovery. An expert in lung disease explains.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

 

[Vince McMahon]

“Dr Joshua Moon, of the University of Sussex Business School, noted that differences in testing rates and strategies in each country would have an impact on the number of cases.”

Is null moonlighting in Brighton, the UK capital of Woke? Enquiring minds need to know.

That explains the Null's proficiency in bantz.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Hey fuckers news from hospital. Amongst the tests the spanish gov is now buying and sending to try to detect everything are a group donated by Bill Gates under the "american" Innovita brand. Those tests have the exact same sensibility as the chinese tests that were recalled last time. here's a photo of one of those tests being used with a patient known to be infected through PCR:

I know this because Puerta del Mar's lab was ordered to test that bunch for spain. Gates foundation claimed to have tested them themselves. But spain never uses tests before rechecking, because we're not idiots. Obvious hypothesis: Gates is mass buying defective chink tests and passing them off as american.

Hey burgerland. When the Boog finally comes. Could you please stamp that roach for us? Fucking incredible. Globalist scum.

Edit: I guess I should explain how these tests work. For every type of antibody you got two lines. C is Control, if that one doesn't appear the test is defective and should be redone or the patient has issues waaaaay worse than corona and literally has no antibodies. The T or "Test" actually sellects for, in this case, corona antivodies. A positive shows 2 lines on the type of antibody it detected. A negative shows only 1 line per type. If you got someone that you know has immunized, and you get a negative repeatedly. The test is shit.

I don't know how other countries with saner rulers do things. But here in spain where as you saw before our leaders send us fucking masks that became unusable in 2014. We instead decentralized testing. So central gov gets the tests, sends a batch to every region, and 1 hospital in that region gets the tests, actually tests them to check they are good, and if they are, passes them. We have gotten a lot of new tests recently. None from China for obvious reasons. Or at least we thought none from China anyway. Puerta del Mar was given the duty to test Bill Gates' bunch and if good distribute them to cadiz and certain municipios of nearby provinces. The result was, as you can see, abhorrent. Literally the exact same as the chinese tests. This is literally just chink tests with an american brand stapled onto it. Absolutely fucking unnacceptable. The unions are absolutely fucking livid and so are the directives. We're gonna raise fucking hell for this one.

 

[Shugo]

Hey burgerland. When the Boog finally comes. Could you please stamp that roach for us?

if I ever encounter Bill Gates in MineCraft, he, his diamonds, his base, and all his insidious organizations will be destroyed by blocks of TNT and flint-steel lit fires.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Hey fuckers news from hospital. Amongst the tests the spanish gov is now buying and sending to try to detect everything are a group donated by Bill Gates under the "american" Innovita brand. Those tests have the exact same sensibility as the chinese tests that were recalled last time. here's a photo of one of those tests being used with a patient known to be infected through PCR:

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I know this because Puerta del Mar's lab was ordered to test that bunch for spain. Gates foundation claimed to have tested them themselves. But spain never uses tests before rechecking, because we're not idiots. Obvious hypothesis: Gates is mass buying defective chink tests and passing them off as american.

Hey burgerland. When the Boog finally comes. Could you please stamp that roach for us? Fucking incredible. Globalist scum.

Remember how last week someone was giving me shit for bringing up Gates?

Gates is buying defective tests, handing them out like a savior and everyone trusts him because he is an "EXPERT!" tm

if I ever encounter Bill Gates in MineCraft, he, his diamonds, his base, and all his insidious organizations will be destroyed by blocks of TNT and flint-steel lit fires.

Don't forget to steal his Horse and name him Jorgen.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

https://twitter.com/ElonBachman/status/1258182983506329600

http://archive.li/Tfc9s

Washington state is potentially preparing to isolate kids from their parents due to Coronavirus. The writer points out further down the thread the language on the forms does not appear to be new. So this could be nothing,or it could be a really big deal. I think California is proposing something similar. I can't see it going over very well.

Burgerland. You had fame for having balls. Are you seriously not gonna show them even when they literally take your kids? Not even the fucking soviets would've stayed peaceful after shit like that.

Believe anyone who tries to serve such an order and take a child from their family is literally playing with fire. Some parents may assent. Some will not.

Don't worry. They'll send Karen. She's an expert at this.

So hey, can one or more of you autists put my mind at ease?

I've been hearing about potentially permanent damage inflicted to the body by Corona-chan, but... that's only likely in cases of very severe symptoms, right?

Unless you're put on a ventilator or experience the most extreme backlash in ICU, the symptoms are literally the same as the flu. Yeah there's immunocompromised and super old people that get permanent scars from the flu, but unless you got HIV you got nothing to fear.

Thst is of course unless you're being treated by chink doctors. Then god knows what they'll inject you. You might even wake up racebent in that case.

I like where I live. It's not perfect but the lockdown has quelled the noise and kids blaring music from their shitty cars. Migrating birds start singing right before daybreak. Sometimes I catch sight of an American kestrel when the cats rush towards the window right before the sun comes out. I hear my neighbor's Dobie barking at other pups during his morning walk. There are three supermarkets, six pharmacies and lots of restaurants within a three block radius. I'm not leaving because city living is horrible, I'm leaving because the grifters in charge are destroying it, just like the Cross Bronx Expressway killed neighborhoods in the Bronx and the Columbus projects killed the First Ward in Newark.

Folks will take advantage of this to keep their kids out of shit schools. That horse left the barn and home schooling is now a thing.

And now I bring New York cornonavirus tales of ordinary madness Part 4

Booting bums off the train: City workers sent to kick the homeless off the subway failed to provide a way to transport them to said shelters because there was no night train service. Duh.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/06/nyc-offered-shelters-during-subway-shutdown-but-no-way-to-get-there/
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Miserly Mayor de Blasio said he's planning to furlough/lay off essential municipal employees if the city doesn’t receive federal stimulus funds from Drumpf. Refuses to cut money from ThriveNYC, the program which mysteriously provides no services to anyone. It's run by his wife, the former lesbian turned Michelle Obama wannabe Chirlane McCray.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/06/nyc-leaders-slam-de-blasio-plan-to-cut-frontline-workers/
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Have scissors, will travel: Long Island barber cited for hair cutting in the back of his pickup truck on Führer Cuomo's orders for not complying with coronavirus aktion.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/05/long-...cutting-hair-in-the-back-of-his-pickup-truck/
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Time to get fit fatties: Long Island officials told an entire town to go on a diet. Coronavirus stress eating is taking a toll on all of us but these "orders" are a bit over the line.

Long Island town told to go on a diet in effort to combat coronavirus

They’re really throwing their weight around. Long Island officials on Wednesday told an entire town to go on a diet — in an effort to combat coronavirus lockdown-induced weight gain. Th…

nypost.com

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Staying home doesn't save lives, apparently: Two-thirds of New Yorkers hospitalized with the coronavirus were admitted from their homes. Niall Ferguson proven wrong, again. @deeplyhigh already posted this but I'm adding the tabloid version
https://nypost.com/2020/05/06/new-york-coronavirus-survey-reveals-shocking-stats/
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Les Misérables indeed: Museum of Natural History, The Metropolitan Opera, furloughing and laying off workers due to coronavirus shutdown.

Sweeping layoffs, furloughs at American Museum of Natural History amid coronavirus

Manhattan’s American Museum of Natural History announced Wednesday it will lay off dozens of staffers and furlough hundreds more, in response to the dramatic loss of revenue from the coronavi…

nypost.com

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Met Opera furloughs nearly 20 percent of staff amid coronavirus

The financially challenged Metropolitan Opera is furloughing 41 administrative employees, nearly 20% of its full-time staff, in response to the coronavirus pandemic. The Met said Tuesday that the f…

nypost.com

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Serial stab happy schizo goes crazy with 11 inch knife on two bus passengers in Harlem. Coronachan had just one job to do and it ain't grandma at the rest home.

Madman stabs two strangers with massive knife on Manhattan bus, nearly killing them: cops

Both victims might have died if two hero cops passing by hadn’t raced to their aid.

www.nydailynews.com

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I know that feel so hard. Love Cadiz. Every inch of it. Can't stay home if I want to be able to afford living. Fucked up how this world works.

Remember how last week someone was giving me shit for bringing up Gates?

Gates is buying defective tests, handing them out like a savior and everyone trusts him because he is an "EXPERT!" tm



Don't forget to steal his Horse and name him Jorgen.

I seriously don't get why anyone would ever think he's an expert. He doesn't even know how to design an OS. People are fucking retarded. That corrupt bastard needs to befriend the clintons already so he can be found with 3 self inflicted heart attacks to the back or the skull.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I seriously don't get why anyone would ever think he's an expert. He doesn't even know how to design an OS. People are fucking exceptional. That corrupt bastard needs to befriend the clintons already so he can be found with 3 self inflicted heart attacks to the back or the skull.

Because he has an NGO that makes him more important than plebs that do things called research and reading and thought. He just KNOWS because he is better than normal people.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

That explains the Null's proficiency in bantz.

If Null is a fellow self-hating Brit it would explain his vehemency towards the UK.

Edit: I guess I should explain how these tests work. For every type of antibody you got two lines. C is Control, if that one doesn't appear the test is defective and should be redone or the patient has issues waaaaay worse than corona and literally has no antibodies. The T or "Test" actually sellects for, in this case, corona antivodies. A positive shows 2 lines on the type of antibody it detected. A negative shows only 1 line per type. If you got someone that you know has immunized, and you get a negative repeatedly. The test is shit.

I had to look up IgM and IgG

Why the Accuracy of SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Tests Varies So Much

The FDA cracks down on test makers as independent evaluations of their products' performance show a need for improvement.

www.the-scientist.com

https://archive.vn/NWFal

Features of the test itself, such as the antibody it is designed to detect, can also affect accuracy. The two antibodies used in most available antibody tests are IgM and IgG. When a SARS-CoV-2 infection occurs, IgM appears to be the first responder, arriving on the scene within a week or so of infection. A second antibody, IgG, generates a more specific and longer-lasting response—but it shows up later, when the viral RNA signal may have already faded away.

“You’re looking for IgM so that you’re not missing a period in between when the RNA might be variable, and in some cases, undetectable,” Sampath explains. The downside is that, based on the assessments conducted so far, IgM signals seem to be less robust than IgG. Many tests combine the two. All the tests examined in Tsu and Marson’s study were capable of identifying both, and the team’s assessments showed that IgM detection was more variable than IgG, and that detection rates were highest when both were combined.

So in tank terms IgM is the Monkey Model which can be rapidly produced and IgC is the standard one.

Another article on IgM vs IgC

Antibody Tests for the Coronavirus

Let's talk antibodies. Mounting an antibody response is crucial for anyone to overcome a challenge from an infectious pathogen, and the immunity that can result is crucial for entire communities and populations. Determining who has such immunity is furthermore going to be crucial for us as we come o

blogs.sciencemag.org

https://archive.vn/5On9L

For determining whether or not a person has developed antibodies against the new coronavirus, a typical test would work like this: drops of blood are absorbed onto a “sample pad” at one end of the test device. That soaks up red blood cells and the like and lets the plasma soak along a laminate of what’s essentially paper. The first thing it encounters is a zone that has known coronavirus antigens (such as pieces of the spike proteins, etc.), which pieces are also linked, in the most common form, to tiny particles of colloidal gold metal. If the plasma has antibodies to the coronavirus proteins, those will bind to the test antigens and carry them (and their colloidal gold particles) along up the strip. Then it runs into three zones on the paper, narrow strips that are impregnated with “antibodies to antibodies” (yep, that’s a real thing).

I didn’t go into the various subclasses of antibodies in my quick explanation above (and yes, by immunology standards that was about as short as it gets!) But the tests are looking for two antibody subclasses, IgG and IgM. The IgM ones are the first that get produced in an immune response, mostly coming from the spleen, but they’re also relatively short-lived, with a half-life of five or six days. So detection of IgM against coronavirus antigens indicates a recent (or still active) infection. The IgG antibodies are more numerous in the end, though, and for many infections (measles, chickenpox, mumps, hepatitis B and more) they indicate that a person is now immune to re-infection.

So on that paper strip, the plasma will hit a band of anti-IgM antibodies, bound to the paper, and then a band of anti-IgG antibodies, and finally a band of control antibodies that react with human antibodies in general. Remember, the plasma is carrying the test patient’s antibodies that are holding onto antigens with colloidal gold particles tied to them. When these hit one of those antibody-to-antibodies zones, they’ll come to a halt there, and the colloidal gold particles will pile up enough in that zone to show you a red-pink color. So the test strip can show red lines for either IgG or IgM, both, or neither, but if there’s no red line in the control strip then something has gone wrong and the test needs to be discarded and run again with a fresh kit.

You can realize, then, that if a person shows positive for IgM only then they may well be actively infected. And if they show only IgG, they may well have gone through an infection and could be immune (more about that in a minute). Showing both, well, you’re probably on the back end of an infection? And showing neither (but with a valid control line) could mean that you haven’t been exposed to the virus at all. But wait! There are complications, because there are always complications with the immune response. It should be mentioned that if a person was infected with SARS a few years ago that they would also probably show positive in this test; I don’t think they are specific enough to distinguish although I’d be interested to hear more details. On the other side, a negative result really doesn’t mean much, because there’s always the chance that a person generated antibodies that don’t recognize the antigens that the test kit has built into it for detection. You can’t rule it out. It is also quite possible that a person has been infected but hasn’t had time to generate enough antibodies for the test to detect yet. All such kits will include a warning that negative result can’t be used to say that a person isn’t/hasn’t been infected. And they’ll also include a warning that such a kit can’t be used as the last word even if they come out positive, although to be sure it is a pretty strong indicator. And obviously, you’re not getting any information about the actual levels of antibodies (past “enough to show a red line” anyway) or how those levels might be changing.

A big question is whether this coronavirus infection will provide lasting immunity: is a person who has “seroconverted” and shows IgG against coronavirus antigens safe to go out without fear of re-infection? And that we don’t quite know yet. The record with past coronavirus pathogens is mixed. We’re going to know eventually, and it could be a key to get past this whole epidemic, but we need more data to be sure. We also don’t know how long such immunity will last, obviously. Months? Years? How many? There’s no way to speed that data collection up; we’ll find out as time goes on. An example is that many vaccinated people my age are still immune to rubella but not to measles. I had myself checked last year because of the increase in cases in the US and got re-vaccinated because I found out that my measles immunity had vanished. (Mumps I became immune to the hard way in about 1967!)

IgM means active infection, IgC means infection over and (hopefully) immune.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

Niall Ferguson proven wrong

btw it's Neil Ferguson, not Niall Ferguson, who is based and married to Ayaan Hirschi Ali, who is also based.

His books are excellent. And I'm only pointing this out because I'm a sperg and lockdowns are fucking gay and unrealistic. Enjoy the rest of the thread.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

If Null is a fellow self-hating Brit it would explain his vehemency towards the UK.



I had to look up IgM and IgG

Why the Accuracy of SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Tests Varies So Much

The FDA cracks down on test makers as independent evaluations of their products' performance show a need for improvement.

www.the-scientist.com

https://archive.vn/NWFal



So in tank terms IgM is the Monkey Model which can be rapidly produced and IgC is the standard one.

Another article on IgM vs IgC

Antibody Tests for the Coronavirus

Let's talk antibodies. Mounting an antibody response is crucial for anyone to overcome a challenge from an infectious pathogen, and the immunity that can result is crucial for entire communities and populations. Determining who has such immunity is furthermore going to be crucial for us as we come o

blogs.sciencemag.org

https://archive.vn/5On9L



IgM means active infection, IgC means infection over and (hopefully) immune.

Oh yeah I should explain that one. Think of it this way. Let's say an antibody has 2 chunks. Technically it can have 2 or more chunks but if it has more it still only has 2 types of proteins so we can call it 2 chunks for simplicity. Chunk A recognizes the antigen. Chunk B causes the immune response.

Originally, when antibody producing cells (lymphB) are built in the lymph nodes, they need new antibodies (if they aren't cloned from memory cells to maintain immunity), so how that is built is just the organism randomly grabs each chunk from a different prior antibody, kinda like if you were to build a gun and you just sellected the barrel and reciever by grabbing your prior gun sellection and going "eenie meenie miney mo", and then it sticks them together and mutates them (again randomly) to see what comes out.

Then a very long and complex sellection process is done as the lymphB migrates from one part of the node to the other. Where the body checks that it can activate (for random shit) and that it can't activate (for the body itself and things that should be there), if this process fails you get an allergy, cytokine storm or just useless lymphocites. Point is. Once the cell gets out of there it has IgM, which means its antibodies are just these randomly assembled poorly built mutant things. If the cell can't find shit eventually it dies. If the cell detects something it goes crazy, sounds the alarm and starts replicating. Hence, you got IgMs. If the cell does this other part of the immune response basically grabs the cell and turns it into a memory cell. Which basically safekeeps those antibodies in case the antigen comes back. When this happens the antibodies are marked and solidified so they can be built as their own thing and detected as proper response. Hence it turns into IgCs.

All the test should do is have a random control group with alergens that trigger all antibodies. And a second bar which specifically looks like corona and only triggets corona antibodies.

Someone with an early infection should get IgMs. Someone with a late infection likely gets both. Someone immune gets IgCs and might actually still get IgMs (it's somewhat likely actually. The blood doesn't just instantly flush the IgMs magically. It takes time to filter anything in your blood.)

So yeah your analogy is quite good. IgMs are the rapid shit the body throws at the virus to see what sticks. IgCs are what happens when the body says "that sticks, let's now do it better."

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

So yeah your analogy is quite good. IgMs are the rapid shit the body throws at the virus to see what sticks. IgCs are what happens when the body says "that sticks, let's now do it better."

I kind of like the idea of your body throwing Monkey Model antibodies at the invaders until it can get the real antibodies ready, a bit like the USSR planned to do with tanks if the Cold War turned hot.

I found another article on different tests - RT-PCR, IgM and IgC

http://www.diazyme.com/covid-19-antibody-tests

https://archive.vn/vkEGJ

Although, RT-qPCR is a highly sensitive test for SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) it has its limitations. RT-qPCR requires high-quality nasopharyngeal swabs containing sufficient amounts of viral RNA. This can be a challenge because the amount of viral RNA not only varies tremendously between patients, it can also varies within the same patient depending on the timing of the test and the start of the infection and/or the onset of symptoms. In addition, nasopharyngeal swabs are not only very unpleasant to the patient, the sampling techniques vary significantly from nurse to nurse. Without sufficient viral RNA RT-qPCR can return a false negative test result. RT-qPCR also requires highly trained personnel to perform complex RNA extraction steps and PCR. Normally, this would not be a problem when testing a few thousand samples. RT-qPCR becomes an issue when dealing with a global pandemic with potentially millions of people to test. This leads to delays in testing as medical facilities become overwhelmed with requests.

According to recent estimates, false negative results obtained with RT-qPCR are more common than initially thought1. Some health care experts go as far as stating that, based on their own experience, one in three patients who has been infected with SARS-CoV-2 tests negative with the RT-qPCR method1. False negative results can have devastating impacts on the current efforts to contain the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak as infected patients are mistakenly given the green light to return home, return to work and possibly infecting others. Relying solely on nucleic acid tests to diagnose SARS-CoV-2 is a risky strategy. As such, calls to add independent testing methodologies to complement RT-qPCR are becoming increasing louder.

IgG/IgM serological tests offer some advantages over RT-qPCR. Firstly, serological tests detect human antibodies (proteins belonging to the immunoglobulin class) which are known to be much more stable than viral RNA. As a result, IgM/IgG serological specimens are less sensitive to spoilage during collection, transport, storage and testing than RT-qPCR specimens. Secondly, because antibodies are typically uniformly distributed in the blood, serological specimens have much less variations than nasopharyngeal viral RNA specimens and can be easily collected with minor phlebotomy discomfort to the patient. Thirdly, unlike RT-qPCR, serological tests can detect past infection because virus-specific antibodies (unlike viral RNA) can persist in the blood for several weeks/months after onset of symptoms.

They've got this graph of how the RNA and antibody concentrations vary with time during an infection

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Nicole Sirotek tearfully explaining how a NYC hospital is killing kung flu patients through medical mismanagement. youtube is censoring the video

Medical mismanagement has been a running theme in NYC.

I know where they're coming from. They didn't want to do high-flow O2 because of aerosol risks. So it was generally 6L -> tube if sats don't improve. Admin generally does not like high-flow O2 with a droplet precaution pt outside of negative pressure rooms.

We've had good results with it though.

 

[Niggaplease]

still waiting for muh trump bucks and hazard pay. Cuomo is still living the high life and I'm still struggling to find wine and tp.

 

[Overly Serious]

according to this article from johns-hopkins, the permanent damage is usually caused by diseases/conditions that are considered complications of COVID. sepsis is the big one, but not super common. however, pulmonary scarring can be a result of severe COVID cases, it's far less likely to occur in mild cases.

What Coronavirus Does to the Lungs

COVID-19 can cause lung damage and breathing problems that can persist even after recovery. An expert in lung disease explains.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

It's worth noting that of the long list of possible permanent effects COVID-19 can have, a lot seem to be shared with the long list of possible permanent effects regular flu can have. The worst case scenario of COVID-19 is bad. But people forget the worst case scenario of the flu is also bad.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Medical mismanagement has been a running theme in NYC.

I know where they're coming from. They didn't want to do high-flow O2 because of aerosol risks. So it was generally 6L -> tube if sats don't improve. Admin generally does not like high-flow O2 with a droplet precaution pt outside of negative pressure rooms.

We've had good results with it though.

I mean. You can use high flow without spreading it if you have the proper equipment. And hospitals should have enough negative pressure rooms by design. But then again that's what we did in andalusia and as of latest stats 30% of our medical personnel has gotten infected with corona so hey we may be no role models. As someone that got infected by the hospital outbreaks though, I can say if the cost of saving lifes is getting the bug for a while myself. It was well worth it. It's seriously just the fucking flu symptoms wise.

That does remind me I was gonna inform you yesterday. Of the tenths of thousands of infected medical personnel in spain. Over 3 dozens have died. 2 of them in the province of Cadiz. Here is the second:

https://www.diarioarea.com/2020/05/05/fallece-un-segundo-sanitario-de-la-comarca-el-covid-se-lleva-la-vida-del-medico-manuel-rodriguez-picon/

Manuel Rodriguez Picon. Rehab doctor from Punta de Europa, Algeciras. Again, I can't say anything personnal. Never even been to his hospital so I know even less than last time. But every loss counts when it's in your squadron. DEP. I can't stop thinking that if only we had managed to push against the PPE theft we would've been able to save both. It's a grim thought. That our people had to die just so the screeching harpies in Madrid were less panicked. But as I told you. That's what Andalusians to best. We die and mutilate so the more economically viable communities can have a better life. Welcome to Spain.

In better news our friend in ICU seems to be recovering. So, silver lining. It really seems Puerta del Mar will take no losses after all. Comforting thought I guess. At least we managed to save our boat despite everything. So, maybe I can blame the unioners in Punta de Europa for not managing to lobby for mitigating measures as well... Oh who am I kidding. We just got lucky. That's the truth of it.

In funnier news:

Spoiler: The gaudiest ring

Hey remember when I showed you those gaudy as fuck clock and bracelet they advertized on TV. Remembet how I mentioned there's also a ring? Well take a loon at this fucking thing:

A double diamond ring and 3 rings, one of emeralds, one of saphires and one of rubys, that they expect you to wear all together as one, single, thick as fuck ode to poor taste. This is fucking incredible.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

They could make that ring in worst taste by making a Marvel™ Avengers™ Infinity Power Gauntlet™ themed version. Like this consoomer abomination

https://www.amazon.com/Sales-One-International-Infinity-Gauntlet/dp/B07J16DZQN/

 

[Niggaplease]

I mean. You can use high flow without spreading it if you have the proper equipment. And hospitals should have enough negative pressure rooms by design. But then again that's what we did in andalusia and as of latest stats 30% of our medical personnel has gotten infected with corona so hey we may be no role models. As someone that got infected by the hospital outbreaks though, I can say if the cost of saving lifes is getting the bug for a while myself. It was well worth it. It's seriously just the fucking flu symptoms wise.

That does remind me I was gonna inform you yesterday. Of the tenths of thousands of infected medical personnel in spain. Over 3 dozens have died. 2 of them in the province of Cadiz. Here is the second:

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https://www.diarioarea.com/2020/05/05/fallece-un-segundo-sanitario-de-la-comarca-el-covid-se-lleva-la-vida-del-medico-manuel-rodriguez-picon/

Manuel Rodriguez Picon. Rehab doctor from Punta de Europa, Algeciras. Again, I can't say anything personnal. Never even been to his hospital so I know even less than last time. But every loss counts when it's in your squadron. DEP. I can't stop thinking that if only we had managed to push against the PPE theft we would've been able to save both. It's a grim thought. That our people had to die just so the screeching harpies in Madrid were less panicked. But as I told you. That's what Andalusians to best. We die and mutilate so the more economically viable communities can have a better life. Welcome to Spain.

In better news our friend in ICU seems to be recovering. So, silver lining. It really seems Puerta del Mar will take no losses after all. Comforting thought I guess. At least we managed to save our boat despite everything. So, maybe I can blame the unioners in Punta de Europa for not managing to lobby for mitigating measures as well... Oh who am I kidding. We just got lucky. That's the truth of it.

In funnier news:

Spoiler: The gaudiest ring

Hey remember when I showed you those gaudy as fuck clock and bracelet they advertized on TV. Remembet how I mentioned there's also a ring? Well take a loon at this fucking thing:

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A double diamond ring and 3 rings, one of emeralds, one of saphires and one of rubys, that they expect you to wear all together as one, single, thick as fuck ode to poor taste. This is fucking incredible.

I love how the ring is on the middle finger like a big ol fuck you

 

[Silence of the Troons]

It's over 1000 2000 3000! http://archive.is/wip/PzJGb

Over 3,000 deceased in covid-19 in Sweden

A total of 3,040 have so far been reported as deceased in covid-19, 99 more than the day before. 1,659 of the deceased are men and 1,381 women. 1,645 people have needed intensive care.
24,623 cases of covid-19 have been confirmed, an increasing proportion of the new cases have been measured by healthcare professionals who have been tested to see if they can return to work. This is stated by Anders Tegnell, state epidemiologist at the Public Health Authority, during a press conference on Thursday.
- In intensive care, we have a gradual decline, this does not mean that the pressure is reduced, since you have very long care times. It goes down, mainly in Stockholm but in other parts of the country as well. It is good.
Malin Grape, Head of Public Health at the Public Health Agency, explains whether some of the preventative measures that seniors in care of the elderly should take to reduce the infection. This involves, among other things, that staff should stay at home with the slightest symptoms, that staff keep away from each other, that each worker takes care of a limited number of people and that basic hygiene routines are followed.
- Operations managers in health care must ensure that the following things are followed - and that is a requirement, says Malin Grape.
Some conclusions about visor and mouthguards should be used in healthcare are difficult to draw, Grape says. They have gone through the state of research and concluded that there is no clear evidence that this would affect the spread of infection.
- But if there are good structures in place, basic hygiene measures work and carers come very close to those you treat, you can add requirements for mouth protection or visor as an add-on. It has to be decided locally, it's not something we recommend generally, says Malin Grape.
Emma Spak, Head of Section at the Department of Health and Care at Sweden's municipalities and regions, says that it is positive that the Public Health Authority has updated its recommendations with the latest knowledge about oral protection and visors that the local and regional authorities can relate to.
- We see that, for example, in Värmland County, decisions were made this week about using visors in all patient-related work in the elderly care. Therefore, it is clear that it is coming at the national level now.
Emma Spak says that 120,000 people have now completed a digital education about hygiene practices and that collaboration between the regions and primary care works better than ever before. She also talks about some measures that have been taken at the municipal level, for example many municipalities have worked to a greater extent to distinguish infected from infected.
- There, several municipalities have established cohort care, with temporary short-term places where patients can be taken care of before returning to their special housing. Mobile teams can come home to people cared for at home with covid-19. And you make sure that some staff only goes to patients who have that infection and other staff does not go to covid-19 infected.
Morgan Olofsson, communications director at the Swedish Agency for Social Protection and Emergency Preparedness (MSB), talks about the annual information campaign called Crisis Preparedness Week, which is carried out annually.
- It's next week. This time it is different. It is for real now. We will make it digital, because we will not meet so many.