I am kind of new to this kind of "most speshul of all the speshuls", so bear with me...
Is this the new form of don't assume my gender?
Edit: Will not binge, they are hilarious, but I don't see this being a long term attention con. It's a fakeass diagnosis, and they receive no oppression points. I did kek at the whole ghost, and animal personas. The fuck even.
It's best to use thumbnails for screenshots. What's interesting about it? The drops in views are when she deletes videos. She's deleted a few, including this past week, checks out. She's still gaining subscribers. Making progressively less money, yes, but she's got Patreon for that. Nothing amiss to my eyes.
It's best to use thumbnails for screenshots. What's interesting about it? The drops in views are when she deletes videos. She's deleted a few, including this past week, checks out. She's still gaining subscribers. Making progressively less money, yes, but she's got Patreon for that. Nothing amiss to my eyes.
And it's all archived in this thread. Why are the gains suspicious? After the Anthony Padilla video she's been on a constant rise. Most of her cult is still convinced she did no wrong.
Today marks one month since Chloe's last swimming trip, and a little over three weeks since she posted her attempt at crying over Nan. Personally, I expect to see her returning in the next few days. Unless she reads this and stays away to spite me. Anyway.
February 2017 and March 2017 chat logs from the UEA Psychology Chat. Here is December 2016 and January2017. The chat was generally less active and conversation seemed to focus on lectures, assignments, and exam results. However, Chloe was notably less active even on days in which the chat was busy. Chloe seems to be working from home towards mid-March but she is clearly still involved in the course.
I did detect some subtle hostility towards her boyfriend Jamie Martin throughout this period from people who had previously been friendly with him - perhaps it's relevant, perhaps it isn't. People seemed less receptive to his brand of anal-based humour, but perhaps my analysis is off.
I've decided not to include caps this time. You can see how the caps look in the links above. I initially included caps to demonstrate how the text originally appeared within the PDF and to prove that I hadn't just invented these chat logs. However, the source is able to provide images and videos from within the chat which acts as authentication in my opinion. If anyone truly wants caps from the PDF I can provide them, but simply copying text in the right order is far less time consuming for me. Messages in the chat are in ascending order and are quite messily formatted as is the nature of downloading raw logs.
Eventually, I may just upload the entire file - there are 5 PDFs with thousands of messages to sort through, most of which don't include Chloe, so this is just to streamline the process by highlighting the conversations she was involved in. Thanks again to @craig25pop
7 Feb 2017, 14:43 Jamie R Martin Guys
7 Feb 2017, 14:43 Jamie R Martin
7 Feb 2017, 14:44 Chloe Wilkinson WAHT
7 Feb 2017, 14:44 Libby Johnson IS THIS A JOKE
7 Feb 2017, 14:48 Oliver Mills MY LIFE IS COMPLETE
7 Feb 2017, 14:50 Mike Kountoureshis and then there's me who doesn't like donuts
7 Feb 2017, 15:23 Eleanor Johns It's coming soon it's not stocked yet
[Conversation without Chloe]
9 Feb 2017, 20:20 Tom ChisholmAggressive Meme set the nickname for Becky Davis to Down.
9 Feb 2017, 20:20 Alexandros Efstratiou mom's spaghetti
9 Feb 2017, 20:34 Alexandros Efstratiou sorry i had to :/
9 Feb 2017, 21:53 Chloe Wilkinson Omg
10 Feb 2017, 16:11 Chloe Wilkinson
10 Feb 2017, 16:11 Mike Kountoureshis e-vision updated
10 Feb 2017, 16:14 Libby Johnson They got sum cheeky nudes up for yall
10 Feb 2017, 16:14 Mike Kountoureshis i'm so upset lol
10 Feb 2017, 16:15 Mike Kountoureshis i got so much lower than what i expected
[Conversation without Chloe - regarding results from exams in which 13 people failed]
11 Feb 2017, 23:31 Eleanor Johns Oh no
11 Feb 2017, 23:31 Jamie R Martin Nudes
11 Feb 2017, 23:31 Chloe Wilkinson Oh nudes
11 Feb 2017, 23:31 Eleanor Johns [shocked emoji]
11 Feb 2017, 23:31 Jamie R Martin
11 Feb 2017, 23:32 Jamie R Martin Nudes
11 Feb 2017, 23:32 Chloe Wilkinson You such
11 Feb 2017, 23:32 Chloe Wilkinson Suck*
11 Feb 2017, 23:32 Jamie R Martin And you swallow
11 Feb 2017, 23:32 Jamie R Martin #getrekd
11 Feb 2017, 23:33 Chloe Wilkinson Not for you I didnt
11 Feb 2017, 23:33 Chloe Wilkinson #whoserekdnow
11 Feb 2017, 23:34 Chloe Wilkinson[laughing emojis]
11 Feb 2017, 23:34 Jamie R Martin True
11 Feb 2017, 23:34 Rowena Golledge PG please
11 Feb 2017, 23:34 Chloe Wilkinson He started it
11 Feb 2017, 23:34 Chloe Wilkinson[laughing emoji]
11 Feb 2017, 23:35 Jamie R Martin You finished
11 Feb 2017, 23:35 Jamie R Martin So when's the next essay due in guys?...[laughing emojis]
12 Feb 2017, 00:37 Chloe Wilkinson Hahaha!
17 Feb 2017, 21:17 Chloe WilkinsonBastard challenged you in Hex FRVR - Drag the Hexa Block.
18 Feb 2017, 21:28 Tiffany Smith What are you lot wearing for the ball
18 Feb 2017, 21:51 Chloe Wilkinson Theme is movie awards so really fancy and dressy
[Conversation without Chloe]
19 Feb 2017, 02:08 Chloe WilkinsonBastard set a new personal best of 9,280 points in Hex FRVR - Drag the Hexa Block.
20 Feb 2017, 00:24 Tom Chisholm How loud can you be, this is meant to be the quiet section
20 Feb 2017, 00:25 Tom Chisholm
20 Feb 2017, 00:25 Joe Holmes Hate shit like this
20 Feb 2017, 00:25 Joe Holmes Shut a book REALLY loud
20 Feb 2017, 00:25 Joe Holmes and make sure you make eye contact when the look round
20 Feb 2017, 00:26 Joe Holmes Should do the job
20 Feb 2017, 00:26 Chloe Wilkinson or cough or sneeze and say that was loud
20 Feb 2017, 00:27 Chloe Wilkinson They'll shut up
20 Feb 2017, 00:27 Tom Chisholm Or alternatively just push them down the stairs
20 Feb 2017, 00:28 Tom Chisholm Normally works
20 Feb 2017, 00:28 Jamie R Martin Or just send nudes
20 Feb 2017, 00:28 Jamie R Martin Really loud ones
20 Feb 2017, 00:28 Tom Chisholm Loud nudes
20 Feb 2017, 00:30 Tom Chisholm *nudes intensify*
20 Feb 2017, 00:31 Joe Holmes Chloe
20 Feb 2017, 00:31 Chloe Wilkinson aye
20 Feb 2017, 00:31 Chloe Wilkinson [shocked emoji]
20 Feb 2017, 00:31 Joe Holmes WOW wasn't THAT V E R Y noisy goodness ME
20 Feb 2017, 00:31 Joe Holmes W H A T a sneeze
20 Feb 2017, 00:32 Chloe Wilkinson i hope i didn't D I S T R A C T anyONEe
20 Feb 2017, 00:32 Chloe Wilkinson that would be So BaD
20 Feb 2017, 00:33 Chloe Wilkinson in a L I B R A R Y
20 Feb 2017, 00:33 Jamie R Martin I'm in the library currently
20 Feb 2017, 00:33 Jamie R Martin Look
20 Feb 2017, 00:33 Jamie R Martin
20 Feb 2017, 00:33 Jamie R Martin I died my hair and grew it
20 Feb 2017, 00:33 Jamie R Martin And got the same coat as tom
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Tom Chisholm You died it?
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Jamie R Martin Dyed* I stg I'm so bad at spelling
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Joe Holmes I wish I would died
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Jamie R Martin PLZ
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Jamie R Martin Is that the word 'dyed'?
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Joe Holmes Yeah
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Chloe Wilkinson I love the feeling of a fresh die
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Joe Holmes Nailed it
20 Feb 2017, 00:34 Chloe Wilkinson I feel my best when I've just died
20 Feb 2017, 00:35 Chloe Wilkinson [laughing emojis]
[Conversation without Chloe]
22 Feb 2017, 00:47 Tom Chisholm When your reading gives you reading to do
22 Feb 2017, 01:09 Tom Chisholm
22 Feb 2017, 01:09 Chloe Wilkinson I can't believe you've done this
22 Feb 2017, 01:10 Chloe Wilkinson
[Conversation without Chloe]
22 Feb 2017, 19:24 Tom Chisholm Does anyone actually know how to operate the grills in our accommodation? I literally just want to hear my pizza and no one knows
22 Feb 2017, 19:26 Tom Chisholm Heat*
22 Feb 2017, 19:38 Chloe Wilkinson[ear and pizza emojis]
22 Feb 2017, 21:16 Tom Chisholm I hate you
7 Mar 2017, 16:05 Jamie R Martin [image missing]
7 Mar 2017, 16:05 Sophie Hartley OMG stop no
7 Mar 2017, 16:10 Sophie Hartley Who is that? Defo not me
7 Mar 2017, 16:10 Chloe Wilkinson Omg Sophie
7 Mar 2017, 16:10 Chloe Wilkinson Your makeup
7 Mar 2017, 16:11 Chloe Wilkinson I'm cryinh
7 Mar 2017, 16:24 Jamie R Martin Michael Jackson in the flesh
7 Mar 2017, 16:24 Jamie R Martin
11 Mar 2017, 22:22 Joe Holmes When you spot Jamie passed out in lcr
11 Mar 2017, 22:55 Joe Holmes
11 Mar 2017, 22:57 Chloe Wilkinson Omg
11 Mar 2017, 22:58 Rowena Golledge Done
[Conversation without Chloe]
16 Mar 2017, 20:50 Tom Chisholm When Jamie R Martin is in your thematic analysis
16 Mar 2017, 20:50 Tom Chisholm
16 Mar 2017, 22:08 Chloe Wilkinson Hahaha
21 Mar 2017, 14:24 Tom Chisholm Gav is pissing me off so much in this lecture, hes just smiling and laughing about suicide...
21 Mar 2017, 14:25 Veronica Leung Disrespectful
21 Mar 2017, 14:26 Mike Kountoureshis I dont like the topic of the lecture ngl
21 Mar 2017, 14:40 Tom Chisholm I could deal with it without him in my eyeline laughing every few minutes
21 Mar 2017, 14:42 Chloe Wilkinson how did it get onto that topic? Whats your lecture on today?
21 Mar 2017, 14:43 Mike Kountoureshis Social structures apparently
21 Mar 2017, 14:43 Chloe Wilkinson Hmm
21 Mar 2017, 14:43 Chloe Wilkinson Im gonna get ma slides up
21 Mar 2017, 14:45 Chloe Wilkinson #workfromhome
21 Mar 2017, 14:46 Mike Kountoureshis Neil's slides aren't great anyway � they're all on word
21 Mar 2017, 14:46 Chloe Wilkinson NEIL WHY
21 Mar 2017, 14:46 Chloe Wilkinson up your game Neil we are relying on you here!
21 Mar 2017, 14:47 Tom Chisholm There are no slides, its just the written notes, meaning if you miss what he says or he is talking too fast you are fucked
21 Mar 2017, 14:47 Chloe Wilkinson RIP
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Tom Chisholm He keeps saying unconscious instead of conscious
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Chloe Wilkinson maybe his unconscious is telling him to say conscious
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Chloe Wilkinson #Freudian
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Tom Chisholm Unless youre not white
21 Mar 2017, 14:55 Chloe Wilkinson
21 Mar 2017, 15:30 Jamie R Martin
27 Mar 2017, 08:38 Chloe WilkinsonBastard sent a link. [deadlink]
27 Mar 2017, 08:38 Chloe Wilkinson Someone plz do me an explain
Just to clarify about the people you mentioned who had spoken about alcohol. Did they mean that they ("the body" in their words) went out and got roaring drunk, switched to an alter ego then felt perfectly sober enough to drive home?
If I got that right its not only a hilarious anecdote but scientifically impossible. It begs the question if they are outright just lying or are performing some crazy mental gymnastics to convince themselves that it's true and the effects of the substance just disappeared. They do say the placebo effect is powerful but I'm not convinced.
yes. I had them on my LJ friend list, I had them from a Suikoden forum community (where I met them) so I kind of knew the names of their alters. I could of sworn that is what was said.(they also did not let the 15 year old drink, because the alter is 15). others now tell me it is possible, but only tell me about how some alters can be blind). I could see if I was incorrect, but that would mean going to LJ and finding something from 2003 or what have you
yes. I had them on my LJ friend list, I had them from a Suikoden forum community (where I met them) so I kind of knew the names of their alters. I could of sworn that is what was said.(they also did not let the 15 year old drink, because the alter is 15). others now tell me it is possible, but only tell me about how some alters can be blind). I could see if I was incorrect, but that would mean going to LJ and finding something from 2003 or what have you
Maybe I'm reading the chart wrong, idk much about Socialblade except it's a tool to check YouTubers supposed earnings, but how the fuck can you get negative views?
E: Never mind I forgot about her little cleaning sprees
(I don't believe DID exists in the way these people portry it, but if I may play along for a bit: ) Am I the only one who feels like "opposite sex" alters could only be formed by sexual trauma? (or if your parent would repeatedly say something like "i wish you were [opposite sex]" or continuously make you look like the opposite sex, but that is incredibly rare)
Like why, other than sexual trauma and those 2 uncommon things, would someone think "none of this would have happened if I wasn't a girl" (for example)? And then the fact that Kyle "fronted at a very young age" but she wasn't sexually abused before 2013? Just another thing that, in my opinion, doesn't add up.
Still playing along with it for the sake of conjecture, I find it plausible that a girl might find a male figure more intimidating and capable of protection, so it would make sense for a female individual to develop a male alter as a protector, regardless of the type of trauma experienced.
Maybe I'm reading the chart wrong, idk much about Socialblade except it's a tool to check YouTubers supposed earnings, but how the fuck can you get negative views?
Still playing along with it for the sake of conjecture, I find it plausible that a girl might find a male figure more intimidating and capable of protection, so it would make sense for a female individual to develop a male alter as a protector, regardless of the type of trauma experienced.
Really wish there were videos of people with actual non-media induced DID to share.
In regards to male alters: Never had either of the clients suddenly change sex because thats not how real did works. Have they at times said they were dysphoric yes usually in relation to discussing the assualts, but its moreso like "If i had been a son this would not have happened" or they would say they started doing more male things to either push off the abuse or make themselves what they thought the parent wanted.
The last big media things about DID were Split and United States of Tara, you'll find a lot of these people mimic things from the shows.
Not sure how people think this happens in real life:
Imagine if she came back with an "I quit" type of video and says the reason behind it is because she couldn't handle the false rumours and bullies going on/directed towards her anymore That would be an easy way out too, wouldn't it?
Imagine if she came back with an "I quit" type of video and says the reason behind it is because she couldn't handle the false rumours and bullies going on/directed towards her anymore That would be an easy way out too, wouldn't it?
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Today marks one month since Chloe's last swimming trip, and a little over three weeks since she posted her attempt at crying over Nan. Personally, I expect to see her returning in the next few days. Unless she reads this and stays away to spite me. Anyway.
February 2017 and March 2017 chat logs from the UEA Psychology Chat. Here is December 2016 and January2017. The chat was generally less active and conversation seemed to focus on lectures, assignments, and exam results. However, Chloe was notably less active even on days in which the chat was busy. Chloe seems to be working from home towards mid-March but she is clearly still involved in the course.
I did detect some subtle hostility towards her boyfriend Jamie Martin throughout this period from people who had previously been friendly with him - perhaps it's relevant, perhaps it isn't. People seemed less receptive to his brand of anal-based humour, but perhaps my analysis is off.
I've decided not to include caps this time. You can see how the caps look in the links above. I initially included caps to demonstrate how the text originally appeared within the PDF and to prove that I hadn't just invented these chat logs. However, the source is able to provide images and videos from within the chat which acts as authentication in my opinion. If anyone truly wants caps from the PDF I can provide them, but simply copying text in the right order is far less time consuming for me. Messages in the chat are in ascending order and are quite messily formatted as is the nature of downloading raw logs.
Eventually, I may just upload the entire file - there are 5 PDFs with thousands of messages to sort through, most of which don't include Chloe, so this is just to streamline the process by highlighting the conversations she was involved in. Thanks again to @craig25pop
22 Feb 2017, 19:24 Tom Chisholm Does anyone actually know how to operate the grills in our accommodation? I literally just want to hear my pizza and no one knows
22 Feb 2017, 19:26 Tom Chisholm Heat*
22 Feb 2017, 19:38 Chloe Wilkinson[ear and pizza emojis]
22 Feb 2017, 21:16 Tom Chisholm I hate you
7 Mar 2017, 16:05 Jamie R Martin [image missing]
7 Mar 2017, 16:05 Sophie Hartley OMG stop no
7 Mar 2017, 16:10 Sophie Hartley Who is that? Defo not me
7 Mar 2017, 16:10 Chloe Wilkinson Omg Sophie
7 Mar 2017, 16:10 Chloe Wilkinson Your makeup
7 Mar 2017, 16:11 Chloe Wilkinson I'm cryinh
7 Mar 2017, 16:24 Jamie R Martin Michael Jackson in the flesh
21 Mar 2017, 14:24 Tom Chisholm Gav is pissing me off so much in this lecture, hes just smiling and laughing about suicide...
21 Mar 2017, 14:25 Veronica Leung Disrespectful
21 Mar 2017, 14:26 Mike Kountoureshis I dont like the topic of the lecture ngl
21 Mar 2017, 14:40 Tom Chisholm I could deal with it without him in my eyeline laughing every few minutes
21 Mar 2017, 14:42 Chloe Wilkinson how did it get onto that topic? Whats your lecture on today?
21 Mar 2017, 14:43 Mike Kountoureshis Social structures apparently
21 Mar 2017, 14:43 Chloe Wilkinson Hmm
21 Mar 2017, 14:43 Chloe Wilkinson Im gonna get ma slides up
21 Mar 2017, 14:45 Chloe Wilkinson #workfromhome
21 Mar 2017, 14:46 Mike Kountoureshis Neil's slides aren't great anyway � they're all on word
21 Mar 2017, 14:46 Chloe Wilkinson NEIL WHY
21 Mar 2017, 14:46 Chloe Wilkinson up your game Neil we are relying on you here!
21 Mar 2017, 14:47 Tom Chisholm There are no slides, its just the written notes, meaning if you miss what he says or he is talking too fast you are fucked
21 Mar 2017, 14:47 Chloe Wilkinson RIP
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Tom Chisholm He keeps saying unconscious instead of conscious
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Chloe Wilkinson maybe his unconscious is telling him to say conscious
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Chloe Wilkinson #Freudian
21 Mar 2017, 14:49 Tom Chisholm Unless youre not white
The way she got super interested when commit die was mentioned... Was this before or after her first attempt? I'm also confused as to the TL of the attempts, when did the swimming happen, when did the rope+forest thing happen, etc
Imagine if she came back with an "I quit" type of video and says the reason behind it is because she couldn't handle the false rumours and bullies going on/directed towards her anymore That would be an easy way out too, wouldn't it?
It's certainly possible, especially because she'll probably make some vague comments about how she can't make money on youtube anymore resulting in tons of new patrons/donations plus thousands upon thousands of tweets/DMs/whatever begging her to ignore the trolls/people "fighting" the trolls for her/ "take as much time as you need, we'll support you until you can come back!" (aka people sending even more of that sweet patreon money). Her little narcissitic brain just might overdose on all that attention and sympathy, since it'd be an even bigger deal than a S*u***iiiici**De attempt for her fanbase in a way with no more content from her....idk.
The way she got super interested when commit die was mentioned... Was this before or after her first attempt? I'm also confused as to the TL of the attempts, when did the swimming happen, when did the rope+forest thing happen, etc
Read her timeline and the rest of this thread to familiarise yourself with dates and notable events. This was after her suicide attempt. That happened in December 2016 and she lied about the circumstances. It had nothing to do with hanging in the forest. She actually jumped in a lake. In her later videos, she alluded to hanging herself at that time but that didn't actually happen - she was lying. Read the thread to keep up with this sort of information.
Hardly. She remains active - she is still liking posts on Instagram and she's selling new merch. She'll be back. Nan is another story but the thread was initially just about Chloe until Nan's kid lover side quest revealed itself. We'll get more out of Chloe in due course.
Idk if this has been brought up before, but I think I found another one of Chloe’s story plot holes
Let’s say we humor her and believe that alters are their own individual people. That’s her narrative. But then why does she whore them out on her patreon and make videos with forced switches? If they are their own people, shouldn’t they get the right to decide when to come out and who to speak to? And if they are separate sentient beings (who have gone through trauma which probably included force and being overpowered, according to Chloe), why are they okay with her being their puppeteer? Are they always just there waiting for a moment when Chloe would find use for them? It’s almost like these “alters” are just masks for her to put on
It’s all so convenient and suspicious
Or maybe I’m reading too much into this lmao
I can’t wait for her to come back, I’m curious to see what she’ll do. Though maybe she’ll just do one of her usual videos and have a small woe is me intro about how she had to take a break from all the stress and hate
She makes good money on YouTube, she has a cult like following and she has a high view rate, I doubt she’d just get up and leave. Maybe if more bigger youtubers made videos about her faking
She won't quit because this is her biggest source of narcissistic supply, long term at least, and not to mention her primary source of income. Additionally, she's fairly machiavellianistic as well, more than I would've anticipated at the beginning of this. Whereas Nan was more impulsive, Chloe is more calculated and therefore more likely to resist her compulsive need to return. Plus, Chloe is most likely split between two choices: stay with Nan or ditch them. This isn't out of love, it's because she's debating between two narcissistic supplies. She's not ready to face the world because she knows everyone is expecting an answer with Nan.
On one hand, Nan is enabling her and helping her create these fantasies. Plus, Nan was a good source of income and attention because fans flocked to their 'love story'. Now, of course, this has brought Nan's past into light and has a lot of people turned against Nan. If Chloe leaves Nan, she loses that huge source of intimate relation, which is important, and any potential supply from their relationship. However, that supply would only be able to come in anyways if Nan came back and was accepted, which would be not only unlikely but a long process, years even. It would be an amazing comeback story, highly profitable, but it has a lot of variables beyond her control. She doesn't like that.
The more feasible option is returning and ditching Nan. Completely. But again, lost supply, and she really must've thought she was set for life. It'd take a while to rebuild that kind of relationship with anyone else, and ultimately, machiavellian or not, it'd take too long for her. She's gotten gluttonous from having this much attention for so long, think of it like a tolerance. She needs more and more.
She knows she has to choose one. If she kept Nan her 'dirty little secret', word would get out and potentially ruin her reputation for good. The internet is kind of in a sort of predator hunting season (which is long overdue, why have we let this problem linger for so long?), so they'd really rip into her. She's probably building it up in her head to be something she couldn't recover from, which is possible. It'd put her under a lot of speculation, more than she is already under.
She needs to return, because every day more and more people are questioning her motives and story. She's losing people and falling out of the big league's good graces. She may have more subs than M&M but Jess' system has way more credibility in the eyes of the community as a whole, more than Chloe could hope to have, even with Anthony's interview. Most of the subs from Anthony's video will be one and done. It is unlikely they will engage with her videos as they don't have any long term connection to her. I suspect that she'll have a celebrated return period and then things will dip back down again and the disparity between sub count and engagement will be huge. I don't think she actually realizes that last bit.
This is a hard dilemma for the narcissist, choosing between supplies. It's the real reason she's stressed out.
That would be an easy way out too, wouldn't it?
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