Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Hungary update:
Infection rate is low in the general populace, random blanket screening shows around 2 out of 8000 as infected.
Making antivirals.
Confirmed
3 341
Cured
1 102
Deceased
430

Plans are made for economic reopening with social distancing, masks are required indoors. Discipline and social distancing prevails! With these we can keep the economy on life support and keep people fed, while keeping the virus from spreading too much.
  • All due payments are suspended which are caused by loans to persons and companies. It is valid for capital and interest payment as well. This is in force up to the end of the year.
  • Short-term loans for companies are prolonged up to 30 June.
  • Loans delivered from 19 March may have a maximum 5% above the Hungarian National Bank’s interest rate.
  • Government remits subsidiaries which should have to paid based on the number of employees on the fields of tourism, catering, leisure, sport, culture and personal taxi services. Employees working in these sectors do not have to pay a pension subsidiary and the fee for receiving the benefits of the health sector is the minimum fee declared in the act.
  • Taxi drivers subject to the KATA tax system are exempt from tax until 30 June.
  • Rental contracts which are in connection with the above listed sectors may not be abrogated, rental fees may not be increased.
  • Contribution to the development of tourism (a kind of tax) is suspended until 30 June.
  • Labor rules will be more flexible, to make agreements between employers and employees easier.

The Order about these changes was published in the 18 March edition of Magyar Közlöny. Mihály Varga Minister of Finance and representatives of Hungarian Banking Association had a meeting regarding actions listed above.

We are also getting our "Orban Forints" , goverment aid to those whose work hours have been halved by economic restrictions.

I think reopening travel and eateries is early by half a year, but so far the goverment did a good job. If it explodes again I'm sure they'll clamp down again.
430 deaths? Those are rookie numbers! Re-open meow and stop this faggotry.
 
I'm glad the government went nuts and overreacted to the kung flu. For a long time us anti-government types have been saying "careful giving the government more power, it'll bite us in the ass someday" and everyone right or left laughed and called us crazies. Now that the gubmint is showing its true colors maybe we'll end up with some common sense restrictions on what can be regulated. But I doubt it, maybe we're in the full commietard timeline and shit is about to get real fun.

/mad at the world+internet
 
NYS Update:

The Governor is now posting a link to the metrics for reopening, which change daily: https://forward.ny.gov/regional-monitoring-dashboard

The light is green, the trap is clean you can enter Phase I on Friday. 4 Regions qualify today to do so, but 2 are close and might hit by Friday. Capital Region was 6/7 Tuesday but backslid today.

Phase I means you can open manufacturing, construction, curbside retail, tennis courts, drive in movies, agriculture, fishing and forestry. It also means you are 2 weeks out from being able to enter Phase II, where Regional Control Groups can pick and choose which businesses are essential to open to the public, if they deem those businesses to have submitted a proper plan for safety meeting as yet undefined critera.

Once in Phase I, said Regional Controllers will decide if and when their Regions qualify for Phase II (but no earlier than 2 weeks after 5/16). They can also roll back from Phase III to II, II to I, or I to total lockdown depending on the metrics. One issue is that 3 days into a Phase one or two metrics might slip in a given Region--do you shut it down? To avoid this, they have decided on a control region, that being North Country. So everyone will watch them and if their numbers slip, then dialing back in other regions will be on the table. Otherwise, at the close of 2 weeks, you either progress to Phase II, or go back to PAUSE. After another 2 weeks, Phase III.

I've been critical of Cuomo, but I'll say this--the process seems transparent and based in numbers as opposed to feels.They go through a lot to show you each Region's numbers and what they are based on. There's a lot of wiggle room for people to get fucked over but it seems a lot less arbitrary than other states. Also he seems to be right in saying NY's numbers are declining, while the rest of the country is going up. California for example seems to really be getting worse. Through all this he has been fairly consistent in saying he's never going to do things like restrict travel or do shelter in place home lockdowns, and he seems committed that we have to reopen and he wants to do it in a way that avoids a lot of backsliding.
 
The Governor is now posting a link to the metrics for reopening, which change daily: https://forward.ny.gov/regional-monitoring-dashboard
Here in Michigan, Governor Whitmer and Chief Medical Executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun have decided not to give hard and fast numbers for reducing restrictions. They're justifying it on the grounds that high numbers coming from a nursing home or one workplace are different and require a different reponse from high numbers of community spread.
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Looks like Minnesota is lifting some of the restrictions on businesses in the state: (Link goes to archive ) but you still can't get a haircut. But on the bright side, the MN Supreme Court has decided that White Minnesotans will be forced to learn native Moon Language in order to pronounce the name of a prominent and popular lake that's been in our history for the last 150 years. Surely this will end slavery and oppression for all time!
I wonder if that state had good compliance. It does have a high percentage of joggers.
 
Wisconsin, USA

Wisconsin is open for business, by state supreme court decree, 4-3.

MILWAUKEE JOURNAL SENTINEL said:
The Wisconsin Supreme Court has struck down Gov. Tony Evers' order shutting down daily life to limit the spread of coronavirus — marking the first time a statewide order of its kind has been knocked down by a court of last resort.

The state's highest court sided with Republican lawmakers Wednesday in a decision that curbed Democratic Gov. Tony Evers' power to act unilaterally during public health emergencies...

Republicans who brought the lawsuit had asked the justices to side with them but to stay their ruling for about a week so legislators and Evers could work out a new plan to deal with the pandemic. The justices declined to do that and had their ruling take effect immediately.

To put any limits in place, the Democratic governor and Republican-controlled Legislature will be forced to work together to deal with the ebbs and flows of the outbreak — something the two sides have rarely been able to achieve before.

With no COVID-19 policies in place, bars, restaurants and concert halls are allowed to reopen — unless local officials implement their own restrictions. That raises the prospect of a patchwork of policies, with rules varying significantly from one county to the next.

It remains to be seen whether the Governor and legislature will compromise on any replacement shutdown orders/ reopening plan.

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The state government has changed gears hard this last week. At the beginning of the month the reopening plan called for all customers to have masks to receive service, and said that outside of offices and retail spaces, all other businesses will remain shut through the month.

Then a week later it was announced the state would have to cut at least $770 million out of their budget. Suddenly the mask requirement for customers was revoked.

Like magic, suddenly restaurants, massage parlors, tattoo parlors, sports arenas, and government offices are on schedule to reopen later this week or early next week. Schools have gone from "we're not planning on reopening until further notice" to "here's our plan for students returning in the fall". Funny how money talks. The states calling for shutdown into july are going to get his HARD economically, they know this is utterly unsustainable. Everyone who is out and about is calling for the lockdowns to end, and resistance to mask wearing and glove wearing is spreading.

Yup.

Funny, NONE of the little Hitlers who put their states under house arrest apparently considered the massive drop in tax revenues that would result. Bunch of dumbfucks on power trips. Sure doesn't build any confidence in their ability to govern.

But here in CA, got a "health director" planning to keep Los Angeles County under lockdown for three more months. Just asking for trouble.

Indeed, the house arrests need to be ended as soon as possible, before the people end them. The cure is worse than the disease.
 
Time for Memes

Karona.jpg


This is a magic the gathering card..caled Karona.

Who you give to other players.
 
Yup.

Funny, NONE of the little Hitlers who put their states under house arrest apparently considered the massive drop in tax revenues that would result. Bunch of dumbfucks on power trips. Sure doesn't build any confidence in their ability to govern.

But here in CA, got a "health director" planning to keep Los Angeles County under lockdown for three more months. Just asking for trouble.

Indeed, the house arrests need to be ended as soon as possible, before the people end them. The cure is worse than the disease.
Incompetence is rewarded in the Gollem State.


Also, I wouldn’t call them Hitlers. It gives them an air of competence. Maybe little Duces or Maos?
 
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Wisconsin, USA

Wisconsin is open for business, by state supreme court decree, 4-3.



It remains to be seen whether the Governor and legislature will compromise on any replacement shutdown orders/ reopening plan.

(archive)

No slant here, No sir. Just neutral, Unbiased reporting. 🙄
The ruling, for now, immediately throws out the administration's tool to control the disease for which there is no vaccine and comes at a time when Evers has already begun lifting some restrictions as the spread of the virus slows down for now.

It will force the Democratic governor and Republican-controlled Legislature to work together on the state's response to the ebbs and flows of the outbreak — a dynamic the two sides have rarely been able to achieve before.

Well I guess if there's no vaccine and the restrictions were due to loosen up some soon they shouldn't have even bothered to decide if it was even permissible or something. And the second paragraph's got me wondering if I'm adequately stocked up on popcorn. (No. There's not enough on the planet.)

With no COVID-19 policies in place, bars, restaurants and concert halls are allowed to reopen – unless local officials put in their own restrictions. That raises the prospect of a patchwork of policies, with rules varying significantly from one county to the next.

Why it's almost like some fool might think One Policy To Rule Them All might be a non-optimal approach. Can't imagine why.

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Dallas Doctor gives first hand account of treating covid patients.


Her name is Dr. Ivette Lozano. This video has terrible video quality but the best audio I could find. This video is being censored pretty quickly. I don't know how to archive (ok I do but I"m lazy)

edit: some follow up info about some of the shenanigans she mentioned in the video from the various medical organizations and pharmacies.
 
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Yup.

Funny, NONE of the little Hitlers who put their states under house arrest apparently considered the massive drop in tax revenues that would result. Bunch of dumbfucks on power trips. Sure doesn't build any confidence in their ability to govern.

But here in CA, got a "health director" planning to keep Los Angeles County under lockdown for three more months. Just asking for trouble.

Indeed, the house arrests need to be ended as soon as possible, before the people end them. The cure is worse than the disease.

We now have mandatory masks outside in Los Angeles as of today.

All I can say now is good luck enforcing that one Garcetti, I'm fucking done with this bullshit and am not putting up with this new order.
 
We now have mandatory masks outside in Los Angeles as of today.

All I can say now is good luck enforcing that one Garcetti, I'm fucking done with this bullshit and am not putting up with this new order.
Didn't we have that before? Or was it only in shops and now this is everywhere?

I can deal with my mask but the friend I was hanging out with last night says she can't breath well in hers.
 
The WHO just released a statement that this virus may go from "pandemic" to "endemic." People are absolutely losing their shit on Twatter over it, letting the panic fully set in as they are ready to let the government force us into a "permanent new normal."

First off, the WHO has been flat-out wrong this entire goddamn fucking time, as we all alreay know. And evidence shows that they've been intentionally wrong this entire time to cover for China's ass. If anyone actually takes any of their statements seriously at this point, then they are imbeciles.

Secondly, the WHO's statement ended with something along the lines of "This COULD happen ... Or it might not! IDK." More fear mongering with no scientific data to back it up whatsoever. Lovely!

Thirdly, this is my prediction: the Chinese Coronavirus is the modern day Spanish Flu. This Spring has clearly been the peak of it, but that doesn't mean it's going to go away in the immediate future. Over the next several months to couple of years, this thing is going to mutate into something not at all severe like the Spanish Flu did. In order for that to happen, though, countries and cities need to open up! Herd immunity, y'all.
 
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