Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[ColtWalker1847]

Doesn't Australia have terlet paper factories? Coulda sworn they did.

They do. They still import like 50% though. From Arkansas apparently. It's like the TP capital of the world. Timber and paper products and Walmart.

 

[heyitsmike]

They do. They still import like 50% though. From Arkansas apparently. It's like the TP capital of the world. Timber and paper products and Walmart.

Rita Panahi is still Australia's best Arkansas import though.

 

[RodgerDodger]

At this year beginning I was a bit afraid, but longer I observe what's going on, less I fear...
That whole coronavirus situation looks like 5-D chess for me, one big, awful, worldwide, elaborate scam (I do not mean that disease don't exist, of course it is here and people getting sick, etc.)

Don’t Worry. The way this years going I figure the Yellowstone Volcano will light off by mid-summer.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

At this year beginning I was a bit afraid, but longer I observe what's going on, less I fear...
That whole coronavirus situation looks like 5-D chess for me, one big, awful, worldwide, elaborate scam (I do not mean that disease don't exist, of course it is here and people getting sick, etc.)

The virus exists, it's just overblown. I've looked at the stats and history of it because I was sick of hearing of doomtards acting like it's the end of world and somehow their utopia will become real once everyone is dead, ironically they just enabled their ideological enemies into making things a lot worse for them.

 

[JustWhy]

Don’t Worry. The way this years going I figure the Yellowstone Volcano will light off by mid-summer.

This year I just dunno what is even...
Coronavirus, fucked up weather, UFO is real, whatever
Maybe not Yellowstone, but another smaller, yet big volcano...
I'll go for adding Planet X , giant meteoroid or other extraterrestial fun.

 

[FatalTater]

Don’t Worry. The way this years going I figure the Yellowstone Volcano will light off by mid-summer.

I'm expecting Hawaii to go off again.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

We are still sending elderly patients with COVID to ordinary nursing homes, as of Monday May 18.

Michigan considers change to controversial nursing home policy

Nursing home deaths related to COVID-19 account for about 29% of all deaths in the state.

www.clickondetroit.com

(archive)

That shit happened in the UK for far too long too. In fact, it's probably still happening.

https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/the-care-homes-scandal-that-shames-the-nation/
https://archive.vn/wip/dRnJS

The guest explains that the government decided to clear the hospitals by moving old people back to care homes and it didn't require them to test for COVID before they were moved. With the predictable result that COVID got into the care homes and a load of people died. Meanwhile the expected mass of COVID patients that the hospitals had been cleared to accept never happened. And care homes are shit places at the best of times but they were made even worse because the lockdown convinced a lot of people not to go to work.

Shocking really.

Don’t Worry. The way this years going I figure the Yellowstone Volcano will light off by mid-summer.

If Yellowstone goes off Trump can use my cunning plan for Republican-run states to send appointed GOP lackeys to the electoral college instead of having an election. Muahahaha!

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

In my also non-virologist opinion, I also think there might be different mutations of the same virus going around but usually the worse strains tend to disappear because they kill their hosts quickly (the plague is caused by bacteria) and also I agree that if it's a culture of kissing on the cheek, licking walls and eating with the hands and doing things that are unhygienic in general they will probably catch things :-) seems all vrry logical to me :-)

The effect of this exaggerated and not really true in the short term

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1003209&type=printable

look at HIV-1 for instance

 

[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN
Shelter-in-place order from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1, Friday, May 15, May 28, but May 22 for the farthest north, May 21, kind of? But also June 12 May 1, maybe? (archive May 21) (executive order saved on KF) . The Republican-controlled legislature has refused to extend Governor Whitmer's emergency authority. Governor Whitmer insists her emergency orders are all still in effect (Rundown on the laws).
State attorney general Dana Nessel (D) is also leaving enforcement of the stay-at-home order to local discretion until the courts weigh in on it (archive). She has stated Governor Whitmer's orders are valid and are to be enforced (archive). The legislature is not calling for civil disobedience at this time (archive).
The legislature has filed a lawsuit against the governor (archive). Oral arguments were heard May 15 (archive). A Court of Claims judge has ruled in favor of the governor. The legislature has appealed.
State senate leader Mike Shirkey (R) is also supporting a petition drive to change the law. Such a petition would require 340,047 signatures to be collected. It would be veto-proof if approved by the legislature, and would go on the next general election ballot if denied by them (archive 1, archive 2, archive 3).
U. S. Rep Paul Mitchell (R - The Thumb) has filed a lawsuit independently against Governor Whitmer, in federal district court. Link, pdf on KF. He has also founded a committee to work on the petition recommended by Sen. Shirkey.
There have been over a dozen lawsuits against Governor Whitmer's actions during this crisis, mostly regarding the shut-down order, in various stages of progress and in various courts (summary of eight of them). However, "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" are suspended until the end of the states of emergency and disaster. Executive order, and thus in limbo. (archive).

OTHER SHUTDOWNS
Recap from NPR
Major protest at the State Capitol April 15 (A&N thread). Minor protest outside Governor's Mansion April 23 (archive). Protest at the State Capitol April 30 (A&N Thread). Protest at the capitol May 14 (archive).
Auto manufacturing resuming May 18. (archive)

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment reached 22.7% in April. (Archive - May 20). It should be lower now, as factories, etc. reopen.
Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel is nearly back to normal (website).
The State is facing a $2.5 billion budget shortage (archive).

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a mistake in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive). Article on results, May 8 (archive).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
State of affairs May 5 - about half as many hospitalized cases and ICU cases as on April 12 (archive).
Detroit field hospital, capacity 1,000, closed. Never had many more than 20 at any time. (archive, May 7).
The state is going to add "probable" deaths from Coronavirus to our death tolls. (archive - May 20)

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). It was an executive order. Who knows if it's still valid?
Detroit shootings up, but most other crime down (archive - April 30); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. (Still valid???) Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Multiple sherrifs from the rural north to Detroit suburbs have stated they will not be enforcing or not strictly enforcing parts or the entirety of the order (archive). An increasing number of businesses are quietly ignoring or publicy defying the shut-down orders.

OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services reviews deaths and adds overlooked cases to the count three days a week: Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Recovery counts are updated on Saturdays.
44 deaths were added yesterday.

Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

34,485 confirmed / 4,092 dead
34,371 confirmed / 4,093 dead yesterday
(Detroit City subtracted 4 deaths, Wayne County reported 2 and Oakland 1, so)
(i.e. 3 new deaths, down 1 from last week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

20,194 confirmed / 1,136 dead
19,994 confirmed / 1,130 dead yesterday
(i.e. 6 new deaths, down 1 from this day last week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

54,679 confirmed / 5,228 dead
54,365 confirmed / 5,223 dead yesterday
(i.e. 9 new deaths, up 3 [down 2] from this day last week, I think is how that should work. 5 new deaths, which is down 6, according to the official page)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**
[Edit: I don't know how what I was thinking]

Death toll doubled since: April 20.
We were locked down from: March 24 (until April 30? May 21),
Masks have been mandatory in stores since: April 27 (until April 30?).

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
14 / 77*** / 26 / 22*** / 13 / 50*** / -1^ = 227***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 43, 31, and 44 statewide deaths, respectively, were added on these days upon State review. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.
^ 4 deaths were subtracted from Detroit City's total, and 3 deaths reported elsewhere in the tri-county.
One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store. Multiple suspects are in custody (archive, A&N thread).

 

[JosephStalin]

Don’t Worry. The way this years going I figure the Yellowstone Volcano will light off by mid-summer.

Am afraid to even think about just what shit may be coming our way the rest of the year. We've had plenty already. Believe everyone on the planet will be glad as hell come New Year's 2021.

 

[Stoneheart]

Im so sick of this shit, just open up everything! the whole Virus was a nothing burger. death rate for elderly is down by a lot this year.

 

[FuckedUp]

Am afraid to even think about just what shit may be coming our way the rest of the year. We've had plenty already. Believe everyone on the planet will be glad as hell come New Year's 2021.

What if 2020's just the start?

Im so sick of this shit, just open up everything! the whole Virus was a nothing burger. death rate for elderly is down by a lot this year.

I tried telling you fags back in February/March but you wouldn't listen...

 

[Rudy Russo]

Outside China

5,322,442 confirmed / 340,398 dead / 2,089,186 recovered

5225614 / 337459 / 2032850 yesterday

USA

1,643,098 confirmed / 97,698 dead / 366,736 Recovered JohnHopkins
1,645,280 confirmed / 98,240 dead / 451,702 recovered Infection2020

1622612 / 97087 / 361239 yesterday Johnhopkins
1624291 / 97227 / 446914 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

235,772 confirmed / 28,752 dead / 150,376 recovered

235290 / 28678 / 150376 yesterday

Italy

229,858 confirmed / 32,785 dead / 140,479 recovered

229327 / 32735 / 138840 yesterday

France

182,709 confirmed / 28,370 dead / 64,735 recovered

182036 / 28218 / 63988 yesterday

Germany

180,328 confirmed / 8,283 dead / 160,281 recovered

179986 / 8261 / 159716 yesterday

 

[nya001]

That shit happened in the UK for far too long too. In fact, it's probably still happening.

https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/the-care-homes-scandal-that-shames-the-nation/
https://archive.vn/wip/dRnJS

The guest explains that the government decided to clear the hospitals by moving old people back to care homes and it didn't require them to test for COVID before they were moved. With the predictable result that COVID got into the care homes and a load of people died. Meanwhile the expected mass of COVID patients that the hospitals had been cleared to accept never happened. And care homes are shit places at the best of times but they were made even worse because the lockdown convinced a lot of people not to go to work.

Shocking really.



If Yellowstone goes off Trump can use my cunning plan for Republican-run states to send appointed GOP lackeys to the electoral college instead of having an election. Muahahaha!

Yes, shocking, but I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years some memo from 2020 crops up working out that the sick old people who were going to die with the virus in the homes were going to die anyway in just a few years so if they died before a lot of money would be saved and this money could be used to keep younger people healthy so they can work more.

Also see how the UK will be placing international arrivals on quarantine from 8 June, which also seems strange to me, especially if you check the exceptions: people coming from Ireland (a connection in Dublin makes the virus magically go away, so does driving to NI and taking a ferry), lorry drivers (because we all know that they are especially hygienic people even if they drive for days through affected areas) and medical professionals (because they are the least likely to be in contact with sick people).

 

[Mrs. Addams]

What if 2020's just the start?

I mean, I was hoping for zombies... Maybe it'll still happen.

Random LA/LA Suburb Updates:
- We're officially in Stage 2 of Newsom's reopening but all that seems to mean is that you can get curbside pickup at a few more places. The only new places I've noticed opening in my town are a weird little used book-store, and a florest. The bigger stores don't seem to think it's worth bringing back staff, I guess?
- In my burb, masks are required in all businesses. In LA City masks are required whenever you're out of your house and likely to run into other people. Everywhere I go, everyone wears masks - except the guys at the BMX shop.
- Went to Target to shop for fake plants with a friend. The shelves looked like a war zone. Like, they were out of housewares, home decor, sports equipment, craft supplies, makeup and personal care products, hair dye, electronics... I didn't look at the food section. The clothes section looked okay but there were signs up saying you couldn't try anything on. I haven't noticed the same decimation at Walmart or Lowes (those are the only other big stores in town) but I've mostly been in "get in/get out" mode the last few times I've been there.
- Grandpa's in a nursing home in LA and was diagnosed with the Covid about three weeks ago. He's 89 and in stable but sub-par health (kidney issues, digestive issues, ect). He has had no symptoms in the two weeks since diagnosis so they've move him out of the quarantine ward into a b-section, for people they don't think are sick anymore, but they aren't ready to put back in with the general populace. He tells us that his roommates in the Covid section also had positive tests but no symptoms. This virus is super weird in who it hits and who it doesn't...
- Went to the beach today to celebrate the holiday. I went to Ventura county, which is starting to open up, and saw a lot of restaurants doing spaced out, indoor dining. It was very nice and hopeful. The cops at the beach were still driving around in their dune buggy but it was late in the afternoon and they seem to have given up on making people move their beach chairs. I chatted with a drunken surfer, and a dog walker who both thought the virus was bunk. Masks were neither required, no worn. (They are required at the LA County beaches)
- Lots of campers, RVs, and trailers with horses and off-road vehicles have been moving around town. I'm not sure where they are going, but it sounds like people are enjoying their holiday weekend.
- My friend, who works for City Hall, was called back into this office this week.
- Going off Trump's declaration that churches are essential, a 8000+ person megachurch in LA tried to hold services this morning. The 9th circuit court put in an emergency injunction to prohibit churches late Friday night and stopped them. Theory around town is that the megachurch didn't actually expect to be allowed to meet, but wanted to establish a president and begin legal challenges to re-open as soon as possible.
- More small film productions are shooting under the radar.
- Anecdotal, but petty crime seems to be up in my town. I'm hearing a lot of car thefts and attempted break-ins.

I think that's it. I'm tired from walking further than my 20x20 apartment.

 

[samuraicrack]

This is from Vaush’s twitter btw

 

[AnotherPleb]

This is from Vaush’s twitter btw

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Every. Fucking. Time.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Good, people always had cooties before the China virus circus, I'll get fewer colds and whatnot.

Also its the end of "aww let me give you a hug" touchy feely nonsense. Don't put your hands on me random stranger.

So the answer is not forever. Honestly this shit is getting ridiculous.

 

[ShirleyUJest]

(here about waiting and perception: The Handbook of Behavioral Operations, Karen Donohue, Elena Katok, Stephen Leider
John Wiley & Sons, 6 nov. 2018 - this is a real book and costs about 120 US)

libgen.is

 

[LegoTugboat]

Australian facebook. I'm not kidding.

Way back when this had China shut down and the rest of the world's preppers were gearing up some galaxy brained individual noted that of the essentials paper products were imported. They naturally assumed it was from the now shuttered China not North America. Panic and hoarding ensued and it spread everywhere on idiot social media inertia.

Yes, there's a few paper mills in Australia, the one that got the most inadvertant attention was one near a small town called Millicent, which proceeded to have reporters trying to get interviews after driving down from Adelaide, 400km away.

Said paper mill ended up having to put on approximately 80 more employees, delaying maintenance by operating at 120%, and hiring security guards at the peak, with a truck full of toilet paper being sent out every 3 hours.

Trouble was, at the peak, a truckload was being sold every half an hour.