Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

[Salad Dodger]

And then they wonder why so few women identify as feminists.

Agree.

Or it was a phase we grew out of as we became adults.

 

[AnOminous]

They tend to believe in a sex/gender distinction.

Biological sex is absolute, that's why they don't recognize sex change/transgender.

Gender they see as an expression.

TERFs absolutely don't do that, though, or accept that your "gender identity" means that you are a woman and get to bring your penis into women's spaces. If they believed that bullshit, they wouldn't be TERFs.

 

[Corn Flakes]

TERFs absolutely don't do that, though, or accept that your "gender identity" means that you are a woman and get to bring your penis into women's spaces. If they believed that bullshit, they wouldn't be TERFs.

I think that @Salad_Dodger meant that they see gender as an expression of biological sex.

So if your sex is male, so is your gender. And same for females. So you don't get to play dressup and claim you can swing your dick in abused women shelters.

 

[Salad Dodger]

TERFs absolutely don't do that, though, or accept that your "gender identity" means that you are a woman and get to bring your penis into women's spaces. If they believed that bullshit, they wouldn't be TERFs.

Most people consider gender and sex the same thing.

TERFS consider gender a societal construct while biological sex is immutable. That's why a trans woman with a medi-vag is still called a man in TERF circles, because hormones and surgery to them doesn't override chromosomal biology.

I should have been more clear on their idea of sex and gender being separate things.

 

[AnOminous]

Most people consider gender and sex the same thing.

TERFS consider gender a societal construct while biological sex is immutable.

That's the absolute opposite of what a gender essentialist believes. Gender essentialists, who are most terves, believe that there are fixed, immutable characteristics women have that expose them to specific kinds of social harm, and that males don't have these characteristics, PERIOD.

The notion of gender as a social construct is specifically a rejection of essentialism. Gender as a social construct is late second wave feminism and the prevailing paradigm of third wave feminists. It is not accepted, at all, by gender essentialists.

Not all people called "TERFs" actually are TERFs, but those who actually are are vastly more likely to be gender essentialists who explicitly reject the notion that gender is just something you take off and put on like a dress.

 

[Salad Dodger]

That's the absolute opposite of what a gender essentialist believes. Gender essentialists, who are most terves, believe that there are fixed, immutable characteristics women have that expose them to specific kinds of social harm, and that males don't have these characteristics, PERIOD.

The notion of gender as a social construct is specifically a rejection of essentialism. Gender as a social construct is late second wave feminism and the prevailing paradigm of third wave feminists. It is not accepted, at all, by gender essentialists.

Not all people called "TERFs" actually are TERFs, but those who actually are are vastly more likely to be gender essentialists who explicitly reject the notion that gender is just something you take off and put on like a dress.

That's what brings some of the dairy goodness. I agree many a terf is merely trans-exclusionary but wouldn't belong under a true terven umbrella.

Meandering around r/Gender Critical is often some weird spiral dance of semantics and word salad with a whole lot of projection.

The last You Tube I watched who is pro gender abolishment is Peach Yoghurt.


I am not a terf, or even a feminist so I don't claim to understand a lot of this stuff, but it's often absurd enough to amuse me greatly.

Edited: way later to include Peach Yoghurt Genderfree's YT info.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

It was exactly because of this kind of autism that they got r/NewVaginas banned...

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Whatever happened to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"

 

[Corn Flakes]

Whatever happened to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?"

That sort of mindset requires a pragmatic point of view. Radicals in general are far too ideological to even consider the idea of "tainting" themselves by allying with anyone they consider an enemy.

 

[Salad Dodger]

That sort of mindset requires a pragmatic point of view. Radicals in general are far too ideological to even consider the idea of "tainting" themselves by allying with anyone they consider an enemy.

There's now a lot of quite active breakaways from r/ Gender Critical because they see the influx of conservatives as shitting in the pool. They usually require acceptance by a mod to vet users.

My own take is it's about "keeping exclusion exclusive".

 

[66andtwothirds]

or, you know, it could be that pewdiepie makes YT enormous amounts of money which is why they keep him.

not that hes a privileged cis male

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Huge update on the Amy "I left the TERF cult cos they tried to me marry off" Dyess shitshow.

Autostraddle (a purportedly lesbian website that has been pushing girldick on lesbians like it's the best thing since sliced bread) gets in on the action:

Former TERFs and SWERFs are fleeing the “cult” movements known for being terrible and wrong: https://bit.ly/2XtcOTx

https://twitter.com/autostraddle/status/1263167608913829889

In addition to taking up excessive space in LGBTQ and feminist communities with their demands, both Lawrence and Dyess express reservations about these groups aligning themselves with some aspects of far-right groups and agendas, which includes ideas born out of the tradition of “colonialism and empire.” The interchange between far-right groups and TERFs/SWERFs has been a consistent issue since the anti-pornography movement of the ’80s and continues aplenty today. Dyess recalls seeing the woman who’d brought her into the movement in 2018 “shift progressively more right, politically.” Lawrence: “It is widely accepted that the support of the religious right — often made up of cult-like movements itself — is necessary to achieve the ultimate aim of abolishing the sex industry.”

https://www.autostraddle.com/former-terfs-and-swerfs-are-fleeing-the-cult-movements-known-for-being-terrible-and-wrong/

Notice the sleight of hand from right-wing to far-right in the above. Not that these people give a shit about nuance and being specific, it's all far-right to them.


Amy comes out promising more of the same:

She also claims the TERFs were rapey towards her:

Someone using the account @TheGCDetective went through Amy's tweets to construct a timeline:

Spoiler: @TheGCDetective constructs a timeline

when amy joined twitter, she was in her late twenties. she used her account mostly to tweet about football with the occasional political take. she also engaged in lots of twitter arguments with what she called trolls.

https://twitter.com/TheGCDetective/status/1263615613953441792

amy also frequently tweeted about being the cousin of jared leto and defending him against accusations of sexual assault by threatening lawsuits, although she did later admit he is her second cousin.

https://twitter.com/TheGCDetective/status/1263615616541315072

in her thirties she transitioned into being a political commentator. Here are some of her takes.

GCDetective on Twitter

“in her thirties she transitioned into being a political commentator. Here are some of her takes.”

twitter.com

amy often tweeted in defense of white women in politics, who she felt were under attack by AOC and Bernie Sanders

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy often tweeted in defense of white women in politics, who she felt were under attack by AOC and Bernie Sanders”

twitter.com

amy was also staunchly anti biden, although she has changed her mind on this now

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy was also staunchly anti biden, although she has changed her mind on this now”

twitter.com

amy started opening up more about her past, claiming she had been targeted by the KKK and shot at. she also explained that she had been kicked out of the "Wise Women for Clinton" advocacy group because they were "psychos"

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy started opening up more about her past, claiming she had been targeted by the KKK and shot at. she also explained that she had been kicked out of the "Wise Women for Clinton" advocacy group because they were "psychos"”

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according to amy, she began entering radfem spaces because of harrassment she received on tumblr. she claims that she was doxxed and sexually harrassed for being a lesbian

GCDetective on Twitter

“according to amy, she began entering radfem spaces because of harrassment she received on tumblr. she claims that she was doxxed and sexually harrassed for being a lesbian”

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this caused amy to start researching the movement, and she came across the youtuber terri strange, who she pursued and eventually dated.

GCDetective on Twitter

“this caused amy to start researching the movement, and she came across the youtuber terri strange, who she pursued and eventually dated.”

twitter.com

So Terri Strange basically dates her audience members on Youtube? LMAO, never knew Terri's channel was meant to be a gigantic lesbian dating profile. I am only pointing this out because of how widely frowned upon this is on certain parts of Youtube. It's considered a huge no-no amongst many Youtubers to date audience members. I guess that doesn't apply to thirsty political lesbians.

amy begins tweeting about lesbianism. she also speaks about IDing as a boy as a child and facing pressure to transition because she was butch. she claims she came out as bi in 2000, then a lesbian in 2004. she later claims to have been a lesbian activist for 18 years as of 2019

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy begins tweeting about lesbianism. she also speaks about IDing as a boy as a child and facing pressure to transition because she was butch. she claims she came out as bi in 2000, then a lesbian in 2004. she later claims to have been a lesbian activist for 18 years as of 2019”

twitter.com

In other words Amy can't even keep her timeline straight. Which is something I've personally noticed with TRAs as well.

although amy ws joining radfem spaces, she describes herself as adverse to theory. she starts speaking about getting verified and creating music for terfs

GCDetective on Twitter

“although amy ws joining radfem spaces, she describes herself as adverse to theory. she starts speaking about getting verified and creating music for terfs”

twitter.com

"adverse to theory" is just fancy speak for too stupid/absent-minded to actually sit down and read a book to learn what feminists are actually saying.

amy began marketing herself as a writer for terfs, attacking trans advocates.

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy began marketing herself as a writer for terfs, attacking trans advocates.”

twitter.com

So she's not gonna read shit but others should read hers I guess.

this was also when she announced her campaign to run for president with famous terf Julie Beck. She continued to speak about this through out the year

GCDetective on Twitter

“this was also when she announced her campaign to run for president with famous terf Julie Beck. She continued to speak about this through out the year”

twitter.com

after a lot of terfs shared her article on her medium blog, she started speaking about starting a lawsuit against twitter for silencing her, and asking for donations to do so

GCDetective on Twitter

“after a lot of terfs shared her article on her medium blog, she started speaking about starting a lawsuit against twitter for silencing her, and asking for donations to do so”

twitter.com

See what I mean? When Meghan did this the TERFs were all backing her and pouring money into the lolsuit. If y'all didn't have a problem with Meghan's lolsuit, where were y'all when this happened?

In March, Amy began soliciting donations for what she claimed would be a lesbian media channel, website, band, tv show, etc.

GCDetective on Twitter

“In March, Amy began soliciting donations for what she claimed would be a lesbian media channel, website, band, tv show, etc.”

twitter.com

Amy continued to solicit donations for her show and film projects. As of 5/21/2020, amy has tweeted she owns the domain http://terfwars.com, which she has stated she wants to use to promote her spy thriller novel about infiltrating the GC movement

GCDetective on Twitter

“Amy continued to solicit donations for her show and film projects. As of 5/21/2020, amy has tweeted she owns the domain https://t.co/aU8DMiVTBx, which she has stated she wants to use to promote her spy thriller novel about infiltrating the GC movement”

twitter.com

Ah, see? Someone else with a book to sell.

Here are amy's contributions to radfem media. she released one song on youtube, two trailers for her first episode of LTV, and then switched to posting trans-positive content

GCDetective on Twitter

“Here are amy's contributions to radfem media. she released one song on youtube, two trailers for her first episode of LTV, and then switched to posting trans-positive content”

twitter.com

as for amy's twitter, she continued to post about being an advocate and leader of lesbians but did not directly engage in any radical feminism

GCDetective on Twitter

“as for amy's twitter, she continued to post about being an advocate and leader of lesbians but did not directly engage in any radical feminism”

twitter.com

a large part of amy's advocacy was tweeting against the website @PinkNews

GCDetective on Twitter

“a large part of amy's advocacy was tweeting against the website @PinkNews”

twitter.com

Tweeting at a website is advocacy? Yeah sure dude. I know lots of "advocates" just like that, LMAO.

amy continued to speak up against @PinkNews throughout 2018

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy continued to speak up against @PinkNews throughout 2018”

twitter.com

Wasn't that the year she was involved with Terri Strange? What a boring relationship that must've been for Amy to spend all her time on Twatter.

In 2019, amy's views on @PinkNews radically changed. In august, she was still against them. In septmeber, she tried to reach out to other media platforms to share her story and was not well received. In december, she started tagging pinknews in her posts

GCDetective on Twitter

“In 2019, amy's views on @PinkNews radically changed. In august, she was still against them. In septmeber, she tried to reach out to other media platforms to share her story and was not well received. In december, she started tagging pinknews in her posts”

twitter.com

amy did agree with being critical of bdsm, but has now appeared to dial back on these claims since terri strange ended their relationship

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy did agree with being critical of bdsm, but has now appeared to dial back on these claims since terri strange ended their relationship”

twitter.com

Well, too bad for her William Control is no longer taking in any new slaves, or I'm sure he would've been more than happy to show Amy just how much fun BDSM can be.

amy's views on political lesbianism are complicated. while she strongly condemned it, she posted on Oct 31 2019 that political lesbians are just "late bloomers" and it doesn't matter to her after famous terf Julie Bindel offered to write an article about it with her.

GCDetective on Twitter

“amy's views on political lesbianism are complicated. while she strongly condemned it, she posted on Oct 31 2019 that political lesbians are just "late bloomers" and it doesn't matter to her after famous terf Julie Bindel offered to write an article about it with her.”

twitter.com

Amy began attracting controversy in terf spaces when she tried to position herself as against working with the right, despite her past tweets endorsing it. she received very little engagement from terfs after this.

GCDetective on Twitter

“Amy began attracting controversy in terf spaces when she tried to position herself as against working with the right, despite her past tweets endorsing it. she received very little engagement from terfs after this.”

twitter.com

BTW, the "knitpianocamera" who responded to this instagram pic of the Valentine card is Leah Tverly:

GCDetective on Twitter

“this caused amy to start researching the movement, and she came across the youtuber terri strange, who she pursued and eventually dated.”

twitter.com

Why doesn't Leah make a video about Amy switching sides? I am sure she has ample behind-the-scenes scoops if she knew about the relationship between Terri and Amy.

Amy says: "Based on my experience, gay republicans are fun in the bedroom", write a book about that Amy! Write a book about how you infiltrated gay Republicans' bedrooms to watch them having fun sex.

Amy herself insists that the TERF cult is bleeding cult-members due to the Covid-19 pandemic. How she would know this considering she left the cult before even meeting any of them is anyone's guess:

They tell themselves that to feel better about it, but most of the GC influencers are panic button pushing bullies, recklessly getting their followers upset over misrepresentations or downright lies. There’s systemic abuse, and I’m still looking for journalists willing to...

Amy Dyess on Twitter

“@lisaquestions They tell themselves that to feel better about it, but most of the GC influencers are panic button pushing bullies, recklessly getting their followers upset over misrepresentations or downright lies. There’s systemic abuse, and I’m still looking for journalists willing to...”

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... take on helping me deal with serious events that have happened in that movement. More is going on behind the scenes than people know. Y’all haven’t heard anything yet. A lot more is coming. I’m going to show the corruption myself soon.

Amy Dyess on Twitter

“@lisaquestions ... take on helping me deal with serious events that have happened in that movement. More is going on behind the scenes than people know. Y’all haven’t heard anything yet. A lot more is coming. I’m going to show the corruption myself soon.”

twitter.com

More of the story is coming soon. I ask for your patience as I manage requests for new interviews and collaboration offers on top of my everyday life. I might need a few days to process it all. A lot is happening.

I’m glad I spoke out for my LGBT+ community, as well as myself.

Amy Dyess on Twitter

“More of the story is coming soon. I ask for your patience as I manage requests for new interviews and collaboration offers on top of my everyday life. I might need a few days to process it all. A lot is happening. I’m glad I spoke out for my LGBT+ community, as well as myself.”

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UK people are privately telling me most women are walking away from the GC movement. 2019 was a turning point, where it shifted far right and influencers proudly defended the move. The pandemic was also a turning point. Most people turned back to real life and issues.

Amy Dyess on Twitter

“@emmahn6 @lisaquestions UK people are privately telling me most women are walking away from the GC movement. 2019 was a turning point, where it shifted far right and influencers proudly defended the move. The pandemic was also a turning point. Most people turned back to real life and issues.”

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Most of them simply let it go. I don’t know if their views changed. They realized it’s a lost cause.

Amy Dyess on Twitter

“@emmahn6 @lisaquestions Most of them simply let it go. I don’t know if their views changed. They realized it’s a lost cause.”

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Some left over the increased hatred for sure. But the general mood is it’s over, and mostly problematic people are staying. Expect the movement to keep getting worse because the reasonable people are pretty much all gone.

Amy Dyess on Twitter

“@emmahn6 @lisaquestions Some left over the increased hatred for sure. But the general mood is it’s over, and mostly problematic people are staying. Expect the movement to keep getting worse because the reasonable people are pretty much all gone.”

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"because the reasonable people are pretty much all gone", people like Amy herself, presumably.

Guess who else is coming out with his own #WuzzaGeeZee/"I left the TERF cult" grift: TransRational

TransRational also claims that Posie Parker is leader of the TERFs, a statement which certainly makes me question his rationality.
I thought Julie Bindel in the UK, Meghan Murphy in Canada and WoLF in the US were the Alpha Females of the TERFs. Posie Parker is very visible as a TERF but she is highly controversial amongst TERFs. She's a mother, a wife and a populist which makes her suspicious to the radfem contingent that likes none of those things.

 

[DumbDude42]

or, you know, it could be that pewdiepie makes YT enormous amounts of money which is why they keep him.

not that hes a privileged cis male
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has this retard ever considered that this is the result of inherently different fan bases?

like, if you're a "teenage female tiktokker" then your audience is a bunch of dumb thots who will gladly throw you under the bus for woke points the second an opportunity to do so presents itself. you say "nigger", your 'fans' will instantly turn on you and start the autistic screeching.
if you're pewdiepie on the other hand, your audience is a bunch of gamer boys, so when you say "nigger" on stream most of them will just go "lmao niggers" and have a laugh with you, that's it. and they generally don't care for twitter witchhunt culture either (that shit is like 90% females) so you're at no risk of getting cancelled any time soon.

 

[Trapitalism]

There's now a lot of quite active breakaways from r/ Gender Critical because they see the influx of conservatives as shitting in the pool. They usually require acceptance by a mod to vet users.

My own take is it's about "keeping exclusion exclusive".

Speaking of TERF breakaways, I found one called /r/GenderDifficult (link/archive).

Unlike regular /r/GC or /r/itsafetish who think troons are worse for wahmen than Europe's "cultural enrichment" problem and Satan combined, GenderDifficult seems okay with some troons, provided they follow really strict criteria (link/archive) so instead of troon-sperging, it's just regular porn/wahmen sperging.

 

[polyester]

They even have a cuckshed companion subreddit (link/archive), where they mirror the postings of the main subreddit and allow males (including troons who fail the womanhood criteria) to comment...

 

[Banditotron]

Speaking of TERF breakaways, I found one called /r/GenderDifficult (link/archive).

Unlike regular /r/GC or /r/itsafetish who think troons are worse for wahmen than Europe's "cultural enrichment" problem and Satan combined, GenderDifficult seems okay with some troons, provided they follow really strict criteria (link/archive) so instead of troon-sperging, it's just regular porn/wahmen sperging.

They even have a cuckshed companion subreddit (link/archive), where they mirror the postings of the main subreddit and allow males (including troons who fail the womanhood criteria) to comment...

Bro either exclude the trannies or include the trannies, otherwise your narrative falls apart. If any of these women had some (proverbial) balls, they'd put their foot down about these things.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Amy is sorting out her doxx for her upcoming TERF exposé:

Just so y’all know, I’m sorting through 30,000 screenshots of receipts on GCs. I have even more evidence outside of that. I’m going to try to get my story out on Sunday, though it will depend on the progress I can make each day. This is a huge story, and I hope it changes things.

https://twitter.com/AmyDyess/status/1264733460859457536

Question: why did she collect "30,000 screenshots" of all her interactions with TERFs, if her objective wasn't to infiltrate TERFs in the first place? Now I definitely want to know why Terri Strange did that Livestream where she claimed that someone was trying to become her COINTELPRO girlfriend.

Anyway, I can already guess what's in those doxx. Half of it is going to be lesbian flirting (what Amy calls "love-bombing", because God forbid the LGBT would ever run an activist movement without fucking all their volunteers and fellow activists) and the other half of the doxx is going to be lesbian gossip of TERFs bad-mouthing other TERFs. Maybe she has a handful of DMs where they talk about the money with some TERF admitting they've received rightwing money, which is long known and nothing new. Perhaps she has some DMs from Leah Tverly demanding evidence that Amy has stopped shaving and this will be held up as evidence that "THEY TRIED TO CONTROL ME, SEE, THEY'RE A CULT!". No different than what's already made public in the average Terri Strange Livestream in other words. Those of you that wanted me to write an OP about Terri, I bet Amy is writing one right now. She strikes me as exactly the kind of lesbian dramacow who would throw an ex-lover under the bus for asspats from the TRAs. I won't lie, I hope VICE News does an interview. Amy's is exactly the kind of internet crazy purporting to be an activist who would get a glowing VICE News profile in the old days.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

or, you know, it could be that pewdiepie makes YT enormous amounts of money which is why they keep him.

not that hes a privileged cis male
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Man she really doesn't see the obvious reason for this does she? Woman love to start drama, and the type of drama they enjoy is usually dragging up petty shit from the past. If you look at the instances of male associated drama its typically about one dude "owning" another one or making them look like a pathetic piece of shit, not about exposing the usage of a racial slur 5 years ago. In the rare occasion that male drama does branch off from simple ownage it usally involves some sort of legitimate crime. All of her examples are women who's fans are predominantly women, and it doesn't take much if anything at all for female twitter stans to hate a female celebrity.

 

[Attackhelicopter89]

Man she really doesn't see the obvious reason for this does she? Woman love to start drama, and the type of drama they enjoy is usually dragging up petty shit from the past. If you look at the instances of male associated drama its typically about one dude "owning" another one or making them look like a pathetic piece of shit, not about exposing the usage of a racial slur 5 years ago. In the rare occasion that male drama does branch off from simple ownage it usally involves some sort of legitimate crime. All of her examples are women who's fans are predominantly women, and it doesn't take much if anything at all for female twitter stans to hate a female celebrity.

women secretly hate eachother which is why lesbians have the highest domestic violence rates.

 

[The Curmudgeon]

Besides hating all men and wanting to collectively punish them, what exactly is the end goal of radical feminism? How does it line up with other leftist bullshit like social justice and communism? I really don't understand why they think have a female-run or all-female society would somehow be magically better.

 

[aquariumwater]

Softcore works was the TERF that drew lesbian rape porn, terfette was the TERF with the shit fetish, Leah Tverly is the TERF with the period fetish and Germain Greer was the TERF that was ogling underaged boys in her book like the nonce she is.

Softcoreworks was pretty clearly a tranny gay ops to own terfs:

I'm not getting the TERF connection here. VanillaDream34 and Softcoreworks both seem to be guys?
VanillaDream's hentai page (which isn't archiving) lists him as a guy: https://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/VanillaDream34/profile
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While Softcoreworks' DeviantArt page has he/him in the google results, but she/her in the actual cache from January, the existence of profiles on Furaffinity and League of Legends hentai site suggests that it is a dude. http://archive.md/Tdi09
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The google cache for Softcoreworks' DA shows that the page was around for 2 years, but went on a anti-tranny commenting spree in January, dropping a bunch of comments on a five year old post in the span of a couple hours. https://www.deviantart.com/vanity-and-mirrors/art/Being-a-Lesbian-Stamp-174127030

His various porn profiles have to do with furry and anime shit, he seems pretty obsessed with lesbian porn, and the comic he commissioned is "Jungle of Pleasure: Catgirls in Heat" which is the absolute hallmark of trannyism. My guess is it's some sort of gay ops to own TERFs.