ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

Also, Contra claimed he talked to a christorian but he got a lot wrong. Was he just lying or did someone on this sight give him bad info thinking it was funny?
He probably came on here or the CWCiki himself but doesn't want to admit it. I bet he has an account.
 
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Tangentially, we always hear "don't put your dick in crazy". Is there a common saying for the reverse? Don't get dicked by crazy? Don't let crazy get inside vagine? I guess it all applies.

"Don't get fucked by crazy" works for me.

Or what works for everyone: "Know someone better before you decide to fuck them." That's universal.
 
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Because he told them that Geno was an A-loger then went on to explain how people like him ruined chris's life for profit. This is Contra, he has a tendency to exaggerate how horrible people he wants to take down are so he can seem like a better person by doing it. Akin to putting scales and wings on a friendly dog then beating it to death and claiming you slayed a dragon. His victim this time was Geno.

Also, Contra claimed he talked to a christorian but he got a lot wrong. Was he just lying or did someone on this sight give him bad info thinking it was funny?

This is not quite true, the wording in the video wasn't the best and the fans are rabid terminally online losers and wannabe leftist activists, so of course they started going after random creators they know almost nothing about because outrage mobs are so much fun :smug:

Here is a Twitter clarification from the wo(man) herself



Did you guys ever like Contra? Asking because I once enjoyed his videos, but he became very self-centered and his videos started making less sense and then almost everything he did online started to bother me because he started to care so much about the money and not so much on the topics in his content.

Honestly I've only ever seen like 3 videos so I've hardly done a rigorous research, however I can't help but feel that while they might be pretty good, they're made for a vastly different audience.

I think one of my biggest gripes is the length and the nature of the content - to me it feels like it's made for people who go into the topic completely blind with no prior knowledge. A lot of time is spent laying out basic facts or perhaps opinions, but ones that are fairly agreeable and fairly presented, and generally preparing the viewer for the bigger points and arguments - I find myself either knowing all of the shit presented in the video (if it's facts) or generally agreeing (opinions).
A fair amount of time can also be spent presenting arguments of various groups represented in the video, which are done a little more fairly than most of lefttubers (generally others tend to go for the worst faith interpretation and representation of their oponents' opinions and arguments) but still not perfectly or anything. However, then, when push comes to shove and the big points and takeaways come, I generally disagree.

That would be fine, I don't have to agree with everything, but what this ultimately means is that I come out feeling like what I've just watched was a waste of my time - what we agreed on before the video we agree on, what we disagreed on we disagree on, most of the facts I already knew, and there was nothing that would make me think about issues that were discussed, self reflect or reconsider things. As I said though, if someone went into the video blindly, I think it could be interesting.


Anyway, to add some actual content to this comment not just spergery, here's a tweet from some troon I found kinda funny
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Miss Kiwifarms :story:
 
Because he told them that Geno was an A-loger then went on to explain how people like him ruined chris's life for profit. This is Contra, he has a tendency to exaggerate how horrible people he wants to take down are so he can seem like a better person by doing it. Akin to putting scales and wings on a friendly dog then beating it to death and claiming you slayed a dragon. His victim this time was Geno.

Here are some relevant tweets taking Nyk to task for going after Geno:

Delete This. It's full of misinformation about Chris and it looks like you did no research whatsoever.

Your take on Chris Chan is terrible and now hundreds of your fans are attacking geno who is friends with Christine. You don’t understand Chris Chan.

Your followers are attacking a youtuber who is merely documenting Chris life, please remove the video. You have started a hate mob that are going after all the wrong people.

"...I don't know anything about you..."
...then maybe you should have actually ASKED him and notable christorians before making your unaunced video. Geno is one of the most neutral ppl on the topic, yet you threw him under the bus to suit your narrative & pre-made conclusion

Regardless of what you think, your mischaracterization has caused damage to someone. Isn't that literally just as bad as someone documenting Chris-Chan with no ill intent? Your take was bad, and you should say or do something to call off the mob.

oooooor, pepole JUST wanting to understand chris, you should issiue an apology, even Kiwifarms has helped chris by paying for medical stuff, Chris' ''trolls'' are no longuer pepole tormenting him, but rather pepole just observing and waiting for his antics

@ContraPoints so in your entirely wrong and incorrect video u said chrischan isnt responsible for his actions cause hes autistic so thatmeans since im autistic i shouldnt at all be held responsible for my actions what if i murder someone or worse do i get a pass cause im retarded

Try doing some research before you smear, please. Geno Samuel isn't a "troll" or "a-log." He's a documentarian, and a damn good one. Maybe if you'd watched his series, you wouldn't have sounded so ignorant.

I think the reason why Nyk defended Chris Chan against KF is because he figured out that one of the reasons KF got so big and popular is because of the Chris Chan section of the forum, so the best way to cause discord within KF was to go after Christorians. He went after that part of KF that grew the forum. He could've tried defending Onision, since that thread also grew the forum, but that wouldn't have been such a good idea. BTW, there are still old Onision videos out there that have responses from Nykytyne2 in the comments underneath them. Nyk was definitely a fan of Onision back in the day.
 
Did I ever like Nyk's Youtube videos? Yes, I did. I even thought Nyk had potential as a filmmaker when he returned to Youtube in 2016-2017 to do ContraPoints v. 2.0 - yeah, go ahead and laugh, of course I realize now that there's obviously no fucking way such an alcoholic drug addict will ever get it together enough to actually shoot a real film, you know, with someone other than himself and this mysterious "Nick" person he has been shooting with behind the scenes who seems to be the one running the show right now. I don't mind admitting that when I rewatch those early ContraPoints v. 2.0 videos, there are parts and jokes in those videos that still make me laugh. I still think his Debating The Alt Right video is one of the best "performative" Youtube videos I have ever seen, a video that perfectly captured the Zeitgeist at the time. I also still like his old Hell - The Acceptable Holocaust Nykytyne2 video which I think that perfectly captures the feeling of unfiltered betrayal and anger that a young person feels when they are Losing Their Religion. Nowadays I will watch that video "against the the grain" and instead imagine a gender ideology apostate saying those very same words to an SJW TRA that wants to "kill TERFs": "This is what you think I deserve. This is what you think I've earned for my refusal to believe as you believe."

That said, I can't stand his videos now. I know y'all don't believe me when I say this but I haven't watched another video since Incels and even before that I would only watch his videos with the sound off and subtitles on because I couldn't stand his Michael Jackson impersonation. I think it was around the time he put out The West that I quit watching his videos altogether and began using one of those sites that allows you to unroll the subs so that I could read what he was saying without having to see him. I don't even do that anymore, I just don't give a fuck anymore to acquaint myself with his arguments because he has none, it's just the ramblings of a crazy person sinking deeper and deeper into insanity and delusion with his adoring cult-members cheering him on. I honestly wish I had been more like @Pump Meat having recognized from the start what an utter piece of shit Nyk really was. I wish I had never heard of him and had never seen any of his fucking videos at all.

Debating the Alt Right was a good video. It shows how the alt right, when at peak performance, were skilled "meme kings" who hid their power levels, got people triggered, and made themselves look like a cool oppressed minority. Reasonably intelligent normies like Saul Salzman get triggered because they can read between the lines of alt right talking points. Then, when guys like Salzman call out the alt right, the alt right plays cool and obfuscates their actual views. Salzman is correct, but he looks like a triggered idiot while Fritz has a good laugh.

Hell - The Acceptable Holocaust is a video I would have loved 10 years ago (around the time I got into YouTube Atheism and was "losing my religion"). Now, I still find it true in some regards, but I cannot get behind the overall attitude. Comparing anything other than actual genocides to the Holocaust is autistic to say the least. It cheapens the Holocaust and prevents us from learning from it. Christians are very diverse in their beliefs, including their beliefs about Hell. Who goes to Hell? Do people go to Purgatory? What exactly is Hell? What behavior warrants Hell? Is Hell eternal? Natalie says half of (presumably mainstream) Christians "really" believe you burn in Hell forever for not believing in God. As someone who used to be around a lot of Christians, I find that hard to believe.

Natalie was around 20 when this video was uploaded, which means she most likely was either in Arlington or in Georgetown University. Virginia is a fairly blue state, and Arlington is a big city, so Natalie's hometown is rather liberal. Washington D.C. is definitely liberal. I bet only the retarded minority of Christians in Arlington or D.C. literally believe you will go to Hell for not believing in Jesus, yet Natalie talks about an "old, old lady waiting in a soup kitchen" as some hateful bigot. Natalie is so autistic and immature in that video, which makes sense since she was a 20 year old who didn't know shit. I was the same way at her age.
 
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Did you guys ever like Contra?

Yes.

I once enjoyed his videos, but he became very self-centered and his videos started making less sense and then almost everything he did online started to bother me because he started to care so much about the money and not so much on the topics in his content.

Contra peaked in around 2018 or so IMHO.

As per my earlier observations made in this thread, I found Contra's most interesting and enjoyable content was produced when they transitioned from being a dude in a wig and into a full-on performance artist. It also seems to me that much of the material during this period was drawn from Contra's time in college. Once this material ran out, Contra's style went from that of an Alain de Botton remake of Priscilla Queen Of The Desert to a cry for help rolled up in several dozen layers of rampant narcissism. At least that's the hypothesis that forms my opinion.

Meanwhile, I cbf watching Contra's new releases. "Shame" pretty much put me off for life.
 
To like Contra, or to be like Contra? That is the question. To get us an answer, I believe it is pertinent that we first have a mutual understanding of beauty. To that end, I propose that we utilize Kauneuden kaava! Courtesy of Juhani Risku, 2011.
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This austere but not impervious arithmetic allows us to determine just how beautiful Natalie is as a human being. The function of beauty is assumed to perfection, an innate property of the universe that intuitively known to us all - like the sanctity of geometry! First, we shall assess Natalie as a unique creature based in the context of her rise to prominence. We cannot examine each fragment in their entirety, nor can we afford to scrutinize any such fragment's minute details, but the Contrapoints phenomenon; Natalie's act of becoming this... piece of Art! Is based on an extraordinary adoption RedLetterMedia's Harry Ass Plinkett's persona, meshed with psychosomatic idiosyncrasies that are all accentuated by the colorful characters and colors worn by Nat in the course of her videos. The result is an eccentric yet piercing view into Natalie's inner universe, her struggles and anxieties. Such is the power of her evoked imagery, that any critic is bound to see her troubles within the self. And what is the self, and Natalie's relation to your sense of self, that determines the beauty of Natalie Wynn? For that Contra character is an imaginary construct, an irrational article sparked to life by the miracle of the human touch. Made to amuse and bemuse an audience both typical and atypical all alike! Indeed, considering that. Natalie is beautiful, and ought have been liked, be liked and liked forevermore. For we and her have much in common, and are all beautiful in our own way.

Yet there is another element that adds (or, one could argue, subtracts) to our understanding of beauty. And that is the distortion of it. The disharmony and dissymmetry. mercilessly dissected by Natalie's chiefest of detractors, @Nykysnottrans. For who else but he strips the Art out of the act, and bares to us the incomplete and broken soul that Natalie is inside? Who is he but the child whom screamed that the emperor had no clothes? He is, in fact, a great part of this matrix. For beauty encompasses both the marvelous and the awful alike, as does the cosmos, which contains them both. And in my opinion, loath I am to detract from her detractors, Natalie's very flaws are what makes here all the more beautiful. Wholesomely non-wholesome, like the pie number. And with this, I ask you, dear lurkers, what is there to be not liked about Natalie Wynn?!

Now pardon me, as I recuse myself to partake in my favorite pastime...
This raw dedication. This is the kind of shit that I expect from this site.
And Hontra has always seem like overhyped nothingness to me, granted as someone who has seen countless creators make experimental shit that never really means anything I just cant get impressed anymore.
And also that factor that people dont come to see Hontra to discuss, they come to learn what they should believe.
 
Natalie was around 20 when this video was uploaded, which means she most likely was either in Arlington or in Georgetown University. Virginia is a fairly blue state, and Arlington is a big city, so Natalie's hometown is rather liberal

He did not grow up in Arlington but in Vienna, VA. When he was once asked on a Livestream whether he grew up around conservatives, he confirmed he did grow up around conservatism.

(In response to the question: "Did you grow up around conservatives.")
I grew up in Northern Virginia around conservatism. Not really close to me because my parents are liberals.
Not leftists. They voted for Kerry, Gore, Obama.
I had friends in highschool, some of whom are now far right lobbyists. And I do think about them sometimes. I know they read Breitbart and stuff. And I sometimes think, how can I get those boys back into my cause.

He also wrote in an essay that his parents made him attend Presbytarian church services until the age of 15.

What he forgot to mention is that the kinds of parents who feel the need to drug the gay/queer out of their kids at 8 years of age are not exactly "liberal". These are intensely homophobic normie parents trying to hold up appearances of normality for the outside world, which is a halmark of social conservatism, the idea of "keeping up with the Joneses". They might not be politically conservative but they are certainly socially conservative because they are willing to drug their kids just for the sake of maintaining the facade of being an average, well-adjusted family for the outside world.
 
He did not grow up in Arlington but in Vienna, VA. When he was once asked on a Livestream whether he grew up around conservatives, he confirmed he did grow up around conservatism.



He also wrote in an essay that his parents made him attend Presbytarian church services until the age of 15.

What he forgot to mention is that the kinds of parents who feel the need to drug the gay/queer out of their kids at 8 years of age are not exactly "liberal". These are intensely homophobic normie parents trying to hold up appearances of normality for the outside world, which is a halmark of social conservatism, the idea of "keeping up with the Joneses". They might not be politically conservative but they are certainly socially conservative because they are willing to drug their kids just for the sake of maintaining the facade of being an average, well-adjusted family for the outside world.
Having parents make you attend church is pretty common here in the US. I don't see that as being the cause of his dysfunction, maybe if it was one of those crazy baptist churches, but Presbyterians are pretty moderate
 
What do you predict will happen to Nyk in a year’s time? Will his career get better or worse? Will become more depressed?

I think he’ll have sexual reassignment surgery and regret it and will make a long video about it and call it “Regret” and then will take a five month break and then come back with a video called, “Peace” where he’ll talk about how he made peace with his disfigured genitals.
I honestly think that he's going to get his axe wound and six months later Nyk's gonna 51% himself. I honestly think his ''career'' (Privatized welfare shilling) is coming to an end. I doubt he'll continue making videos for long, but he's got quite a few paypiggies from what I gather.

What he forgot to mention is that the kinds of parents who feel the need to drug the gay/queer out of their kids at 8 years of age are not exactly "liberal".

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Evidently they didn't drug or beat him enough.
 
Nyk's old friend Brittany just posted a video about everything that has happened before and since she left Youtube and she's literally having a BPD episode in the middle of the video: "We have over 14 people who have come forward with the same story: a woman who begs for empathy and sympathy, who claims she's a victim, and once you invite her into your home, once you give her a chance."



If will discuss this video at length in the Trumblr BDSM thread where I have been posting about this ordeal since forever (because all the people involved originally started out on BDSM Tumblr). Brittany even included two screenshots from my posts in that thread in this very video, citing Kiwi Farms as a source. I will post a more detailed response to this video in the BDSM Tumblr thread but here are some preliminary thoughts:

Brittany, since you basically admitted that you're been reading Kiwi Farms in his video, I might as well address you directly: Sorry not sorry, I still think you and Douchebag are using Muse as a projection screen for your failed relationship, and I still think you are letting Douchebag off the hook too easily for cheating on you with that woman. Douchebag knew you were uncomfortable with her, but I guess since he was the Master and you were the Slave, you let him do as he pleases even and despite your own stated comfort levels, and you are still submissive to him in that you are still defending him now. In fact, you are still covering up for him and speaking on his behalf, just like a good little slave being her Master's unpaid diplomat, advocate and ambassador. Good girl, Brittany. Tell me, when is Douchebag going to grow up and defend himself like a real man instead of hiding behind a wall of women? William Control does the same thing you know, all these abusers do, they hide behind a wall of their harem bitches because despite claiming to be Alphas and Dominant, in reality they're just little weaklings who can't even verbally stand up for themselves. These are the men your scene refers to as Doms, Brittany, immature men hiding behind the women in their lives. Why are you so eager to play that role, if you are such a feminist? I have no doubt that Muse is a fucking liar, especially after seeing Wes Moast's videos about what she did to him, but you need to stop pretending that Muse was the sole catalyst that capsized a relationship that was clearly already toxic from the start. Muse isn't denying you your feminist agency for pointing out that your relationship to Douchebag was abusive, your own videos at the time as well as your continued advocacy for Douchebag makes it plain for all to see that you are defending not just any abuser but your own abuser. If Douchebag cared about you he wouldn't have hooked up with a woman you had already stated you were uncomfortable with under the guise of polyamory. He went into his relationship with her having already disregarded you. There's clearly a narcissistic triangulation dynamic going on here that you are not acknowledging. (I warned you at the time that this is what Nyk likes to do as well, he too likes to set up triangles. All these narcissists do, and there's a lot of them in BDSM.) Another important puzzle piece to this story that you are not addressing is that Muse wasn't the only one using during this relationship, so allegedly was Douchebag. Muse claimed that she and Douchebag were both users and that he would send her out to get drugs. Part of the toxic dynamic between Muse and Douchebag was clearly the drugs but you won't go into that. I would assume this subject pertains to yourself as well, even as a bystander (I do know for a fact that you've been high on edibles on your own Livestreams many many times). But I will address this at length later.

Brittany also included a thumbnail of her video with Nyk during this shot. She doesn't mention Nyk by name but points out that she worked with known Youtubers during her time on Youtube. This was shot in the summer of 2017 when Nyk had just started HRT. Brittany was travelling on a roadtrip through the US and Nyk had offered to let her stay at his house in Baltimore, where they cuddled and watched The Love Witch, Nyk's favourite movie at the time. As you can see, Nyk is wearing the same "Gay at fuck" top that Brittany is wearing at the beginning of this video.

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What do you predict will happen to Nyk in a year’s time?

If he doesn't OD or die in a car-crash from DIU, nothing. He'll continue as usual and make another million on Patreon. Perhaps he will get himself involved in some transbian love triangle when the lockdown is lifted, which will evitably end up in flames just like his relationship with Oliver and Theryn did, and then he will make a video about "Dyke Drama" milking the incident for all it's worth.

Evidently they didn't drug or beat him enough.

You wouldn't say that if you saw the list of psychiatric drugs he posted in the Psychiatry video when that was still public.

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Having parents make you attend church is pretty common here in the US. I don't see that as being the cause of his dysfunction, maybe if it was one of those crazy baptist churches, but Presbyterians are pretty moderate
The majority of people in the U.S. grow up with Christian parents or in Christian communities, and it tends to have little effect on them. It's definitely not the cause of the dysfunction.
 
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