Law Internet Archive (Archive.org) sued over the National Emergency Library by publishers - Publishers: "Pay up"

Lawsuit PDF attached from the Reclaim The Net article

A group of publishers sued Internet Archive on Monday, saying that the nonprofit group’s trove of free electronic copies of books is robbing authors and publishers of revenue at a moment when it is desperately needed.

Internet Archive has made more than 1.3 million books available for free online, according to the complaint, which were scanned and available to one borrower at a time for a period of 14 days. Then in March, the group said it would lift all restrictions on its book lending until the end of the public health crisis, creating what it called “a National Emergency Library to serve the nation’s displaced learners.”

But many publishers and authors have called it something different: theft.

“There is nothing innovative or transformative about making complete copies of books to which you have no rights and giving them away for free,” said Maria A. Pallante, president of the Association of American Publishers, which is helping to coordinate the industry’s response. “They’ve stepped in downstream and taken the intellectual investment of authors and the financial investment of publishers, they’re interfering and giving this away.”

The lawsuit, which accused Internet Archive of “willful mass copyright infringement,” was filed in federal court in Manhattan on behalf of Hachette Book Group, HarperCollins Publishers, John Wiley & Sons and Penguin Random House.

Brewster Kahle, the founder and digital librarian of Internet Archive, defended his organization and said it was functioning as a library during the coronavirus pandemic, when physical libraries have been closed.

“As a library, the Internet Archive acquires books and lends them, as libraries have always done,” he said in an email. “This supports publishing and authors and readers. Publishers suing libraries for lending books, in this case, protected digitized versions, and while schools and libraries are closed, is not in anyone’s interest.”

But Internet Archive operates differently from public libraries with e-book lending programs. Traditional libraries pay licensing fees to publishers and agree to make them available for a particular period or a certain number of times. Internet Archive, on the other hand, acquires copies through donated or purchased books, which are then scanned and put online.

Mr. Kahle said that the group decided to drop lending restrictions because teachers were looking for more resources to help facilitate remote learning after school buildings were closed. Authors who do not want their work included on the site could opt out, he said. Some authors, however, had asked that their work be included, he added.

There is a long list of authors in the lawsuit who disagree, including Malcolm Gladwell, John Grisham and Elizabeth Gilbert. Douglas Preston, a writer and president of the Authors Guild, said in a statement that the “wholesale scanning and posting of copyrighted books without the consent of authors, and without paying a dime, is piracy hidden behind a sanctimonious veil of progressivism.”

The lawsuit argues not just against the National Emergency Library format, where books can be lent without restriction, but says that Internet Archive’s longstanding approach to book lending “seeks to destroy the carefully calibrated ecosystem that makes books possible.” Ms. Pallante of the Association of American Publishers said that aggrieved publishers had been weighing their legal options before the pandemic struck.

“Books have long been essential to our society,” the complaint said. “Fiction and nonfiction alike, they transport us to new worlds, broaden our horizons, provide us with perspective, reflect the ever-growing knowledge of humanity in every field, spark our imaginations and deepen our understanding of the world. Yet, books are not self-generating. They are the product of training and study, talent and grit, perseverance and creativity, investment and risk, and untold hours of work.”
 

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Of course, Google's also shown to be wildly incompetent with YouTube, and bowing down to the whims of advertisers, so who's to say they wouldn't do the same when some big publication firm tries to sue them. Either way, I see it as a somewhat complicated situation with or without any, or at least not a lot of, virtue signalling going on behind the scenes
Google has probably already made good with publishers since Google Books has varying restrictions based on how much the publishers will let you see which range from "no preview allowed" to half the book or more (including images).
 
Google has probably already made good with publishers since Google Books has varying restrictions based on how much the publishers will let you see which range from "no preview allowed" to half the book or more (including images).
The one thing Google Books tends to have the most of from experience aside from old shit is magazines. You can find back issues of out of print magazines like PC Magazine on there.
 
Yes, yes, yes, thats all well and good. But why are they allowed to make free copies of copy-written books available? Its obvious that they are in the wrong here and should stop doing that.
Copyright is broken, overreaching, overly broad and has lost all of its original purpose (not unlike patents)

copyright was supposed to broaden and increase creativity by ensuring that people who came up with good stories and ideas were able to make a profit off of them without worrying about other people stealing them.

but copyright is now actively stifling creativity by consolidating media into conglomerates, keeping things out of the public domain, destroying all semblance of “fair use” protections and allowing people to block actual new content on grounds of tangential similarity. Not to mention copyright doesn’t even cover things like games, recipes and maps.

copyrights and patents need to be completely overhauled, because they have morphed from shield to sword and have royally fucked the ability to have modern shared culture the way we have things like Sherlock Holmes or Lovecraft. The

(also, it looks like the suit worked, because I currently cannot borrow any of the books. Why did I not hear about this before now? I’ve missed almost all the good pandemic free stuff.)
 
This is a faggot move by the publishers and their motivation is pure greed. I recommend the documentary Paywall: the business of scholarship to give you some idea of their practices in general. All of the "protesting authors" are kept by the balls and somehow did not reee when the publishers made some stuff free due to WuFlu. Publishing houses made this partly because of PR, partly because if they kept putting on additional charges when majority of education bodies had to speedily move online that would probably break camel's back and they would lose majority of their subscriptions. But when it's someone else...
The fact that when a library has the paperback it has to pay once and then can do with it whatever it damn well pleases and lend it to as many patrons as it fancies until the book falls apart vs electronic copy- where you first pay the licence fee and then are charged additional credits, renewals, what have you and are still not guaranteed proper access because reasons and they can pull the plug any time they want says volumes. [Yes- it is exactly same issue as with vidya games.] But I digress, as IA is not a library per se
 
Guess it's time to download all the ROMs. Is it so hard to make your old stuff easily available? None of this subscription and rotating library bullshit Nintendo does now. None of this whatever else is being done. Do what Valve and GOG did, make services that are better than pirating.

I swear, people who failed kindergarten run these companies. This isn't open heart surgery.
 
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it seems weird that they felt they're getting so hurt when I've never heard of Hollywood going after archive despite the metric shitton of big studio movies and music up there
a lot of the accounts end up getting taken down but there's never this sort of drama
 
Internet archiving sites have long been a thorn in the side of dishonest journalists. It makes it more difficult to simply alter a news story without being exposed after a lie, dishonesty, or incompetent reporting has been found out.
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That is precisely the nonsense I was looking for from the MSM. Thank you. I had found this weird Indian site. That was the best I could do with the one minute Google search.

Maybe that is because the MSM had since distanced themselves from this. I don't mean distance as in changing their stance, but I think many might have realized how spineless that makes them look as journalists and had at least stopped saying publicly that they are trying to disable those services. As I said above, journalists don't exactly want to be held accountable to what they have said in the past, especially when they let the mask slip like that. They might have tried to memory hole their shit take on archiving sites as much as they try to prevent archiving of their ugly articles.

Only a smear merchant would want to prevent having a visible trace of what they have said in the past. Everything gets labeled with the term racism. I can't tell apart parody and MSM anymore. If this screenshot was a complete fake, I wouldn't be able to tell from the general takes these people have.
 
IP is a government-given monopoly over an idea and should be abolished. Of course these monopolists want to destroy this for profit.

copyrights and patents need to be completely overhauled, because they have morphed from shield to sword and have royally fucked the ability to have modern shared culture the way we have things like Sherlock Holmes or Lovecraft.
You're delusional if you thought it'd turn out any other way. Now the 'moderate' position of 25 years and the position of simply abolishing it are indistinguishable. Just abolish this failed institution.
 
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As they said in their post, they're ass-mad people can archive their shit before its "corrected", aka people get to have copies of their bullshit stored before they stealth-edit it away when called out.

It's hard to play the motte-and-bailey switcheroo when you have their bailey saved.
 
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