Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

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Yamamotoyama

At 265 kg (584 lb), Yamamotoyama is the heaviestJapanese-born sumo wrestler in history, and is also thought to be the heaviest Japanese person ever.

imagine being almost as big as the biggest sumowrestler. I am also pretty sure sumo wrestlers don’t even break the 400 mark usually. So most of them are bigger than your average sumo wrestler.

 

[one_time_user]

I hope it wasn't this thread that I mentioned this in once- Andre the giant was over 7 feet tall, 520 pounds and literally was a giant and all of these people are more than a foot shorter and many are heavier than a literal giant.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Yamamotoyama

At 265 kg (584 lb), Yamamotoyama is the heaviestJapanese-born sumo wrestler in history, and is also thought to be the heaviest Japanese person ever.

imagine being almost as big as the biggest sumowrestler. I am also pretty sure sumo wrestlers don’t even break the 400 mark usually. So most of them are bigger than your average sumo wrestler.

He's 6' 4" too. Basically unheard of height for Japanese. Average Japanese man is about 5' 7".

Apparently on average, sumos are 330lb. There are some super heavyweights, but they're mostly lighter than the Ambers and Annas of this world. They tend to eat a lot better too, and carry far less visceral fat than you'd expect. They eat a shitton of calories to get and maintain their size, but they eat good food, not cheetos and sugary beverages. Their knees still get fucked though.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

He's 6' 4" too. Basically unheard of height for Japanese. Average Japanese man is about 5' 7".

Apparently on average, sumos are 330lb. There are some super heavyweights, but they're mostly lighter than the Ambers and Annas of this world. They tend to eat a lot better too, and carry far less visceral fat than you'd expect. They eat a shitton of calories to get and maintain their size, but they eat good food, not cheetos and sugary beverages. Their knees still get fucked though.

They might look flabberous but there's a core of very dense muscle right under there. The flabberousness is due to their very high carb diet and because most sumo bouts are won or lost in the tachi-ai or initial charge, so they train for short term anaerobic effort and explosive power over stamina or suchlike. Put it like this. If a rikishi barrels into you full tilt you will know yourself.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

They might look flabberous but there's a core of very dense muscle right under there. The flabberousness is due to their very high carb diet and because most sumo bouts are won or lost in the tachi-ai or initial charge, so they train for short term anaerobic effort and explosive power over stamina or suchlike. Put it like this. If a rikishi barrels into you full tilt you will know yourself.

Yeah, I know. They train very hard. They still have truncated lifespans due to carrying the weight, generally crapping out around the 60-ish mark, where as the average Japanese is immortal, basically.

 

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[LetThemEatCake]

As far as I know, the National Association to Aid Fat Americans - the actual start of the political conceptualization of fat folks as an oppressed group, was created in 1969 .... by a WHITE MAN.

Bill Fabrey. He was actually thin. His wife was huge, he was likely a feeder and he created a highly specific fat people acceptance movement off the back of civil rights movement, co-opting all the usual language and concepts. Sound familiar? NAAFA created the HAES movement. The only reference to BOPO/Fat Lib I know before 1969 was again a white man, Steve Post, who held a 'Fat-In' in Central Park a couple of years earlier.

I would be more inclined to believe this story about muh queer black women if she showed some actual evidence. Which black women? What were their names? Why don't you know that or why can't you be bothered to mention them if you do know? Where are they now? What did they publish or write about this concept? Show me some references. Tell me something I can actually factcheck.

The vagueness of these claims when it comes to BOPO and Fat Liberation etc always leads me to believe they're either an outright lie, wishful thinking, or someone just repeating bad information they've heard elsewhere without the smallest fact check. It appeals emotionally to they treat it as fact.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Wait first they claim bopo was created specifically for fat women, then fat BLACK women, now fat black GAY women?

In a month they’ll be claiming that bopo was created in 1959 by and for fat black gay trans women in wheelchairs with autism.

Echoing above poster, WHO are these women, how do you know about them, how do you know they were gay, can you name ONE of them?

 

[LetThemEatCake]

The sixties were rife with endless little radical groups, who published tracts, held querelous meetings, squabbled amongst themselves and took themselves terribly, terribly seriously. If there were some black, queer, feminist group dedicated to BOPO I think there would be some easily-found record of it.

I find it pretty comical that Fat Acceptance, which is a 99.99% female thing these days, was invented by their arch political enemy; a straight white male Boomer with a fat fetish.

 

[AbraCadaver]

I find it pretty comical that Fat Acceptance, which is a 99.99% female thing these days, was invented by their arch political enemy; a straight white male Boomer with a fat fetish.

As opposed to their ultimate relationship goal: a straight white male hunky pinup with a fat fetish.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

As opposed to their ultimate relationship goal: a straight white male hunky pinup with a fat fetish.

I'm surprised more of them haven't fallen foul of feeders.

(For the record, feeders are fucking sick. It's like deliberately leaving needles around the house when your partner is a recovering heroin addict. Donuts, skinpops, all the same really.)

 

[AbraCadaver]

I'm surprised more of them haven't fallen foul of feeders.

(For the record, feeders are fucking sick. It's like deliberately leaving needles around the house when your partner is a recovering heroin addict. Donuts, skinpops, all the same really.)

Feeders usually aren’t hunky beefcake status symbols. Most straight FA women demand that you see them as just as beautiful and deserving of love at 500 lb, BUT they want to date a lad who looks like Thor because “I like what I like and I can’t help that and how DARE you make me only date fat men!” They find fat men unattractive, but it’s OKAY to be a hypocrite in that sense because men aren’t oppressed, so not being attracted to them is fine, even if they’re fat. But then black men are oppressed, but the man part cancels out the oppressions of the black part, wheres being fat and female is a double-oppression, so you get a double plus on your score card, and even if a man is fat AND black, the man part is enough privilege points to negate both, so you’d have to be trans on top of that to get your score back up, and whomever has the most oppression at the end of the game gets to have their sexual pick of the dating pool. Or something.

Anyway: Rules for thee, but not for me.

They don’t want some skinny guy with a fetish, they want a hunky man-trophy to show off to the world and sex them up good and tell them that REAL goddesses have hanging pannus and bad knees.

 

[Fascist Ferret]

Imagine glorifying some mystic group of "fat black queer women" without naming them, without naming a single one.

Do they see them as humans or pieces in a political game? I vote the latter.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Imagine glorifying some mystic group of "fat black queer women" without naming them, without naming a single one.

Do they see them as humans or pieces in a political game? I vote the latter.

It’s pretty much like the Afrocentrists that claim Mozart and Beethoven were black. It’s dumb, but they use it to make a point of how “blacks invented everything”. It makes me wish they’d talk about actual black contributions instead of just making stuff up (like the mythical fat black queer women that created body positivity).

 

[LetThemEatCake]

Imagine glorifying some mystic group of "fat black queer women" without naming them, without naming a single one.

Do they see them as humans or pieces in a political game? I vote the latter.

Individuals and individuality are anathema in identity politics. Your immutable qualities (and then your political allegiance and purity) are the only thing that count, and allow you to be classified as oppressed or the idpol equivalent of what the old school used to call Class Enemies.

Black people's people's function in these circles seem to be to be little more than a convenient trump card or weapon to bludgeon the opponent into submission/silence.

The fact George probably doesn't even think to wonder about these Uhmazing Queer Black Wimmims NAMES says everything about the actual game being played here.

 

[LetThemEatCake]

As opposed to their ultimate relationship goal: a straight white male hunky pinup with a fat fetish.

It's a love/hate relationship.

Note, the woker the woman, the whiter the boyfriend, generally.

But yeah, people often deeply resent the type of person they want, but have no hope of attaining.

 

[Reepicheep]

 

[LetThemEatCake]

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Yeah, doctors trying to save lives by not giving medically inadvisable treatments to people are an 'issue'.

 

[Fascist Ferret]

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Are they talking about the fact that obese people are not good candidates for surgery...?

 

[Punkinsplice]

Are they talking about the fact that obese people are not good candidates for surgery...?

No, that doesn't fit well with the fatphobic doctor narrative.