NY: Mayor Bill de Blasio vows to cut funding for NYPD and give it to social services - Where are the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when you need them?


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New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) on Sunday pledged to cut funding for the New York Police Department and reallocate it to youth and social services, as calls for reforming law enforcement agencies grow in response to the death of George Floyd.

Calls to "defund the police" and put more investment towards other public services has become a top demand among activists in cities across the U.S. as they speak out against police brutality and racial injustice.

De Blasio said during a press conference Sunday that the city would move funding from the New York Police Department to youth initiatives and social services in its next budget. He did not say how much he plans to divert from the police department, which has annual budget of $6 billion, or more than 6 percent of de Blasio's proposed 2021 proposed fiscal budget, The New York Times noted.

"The details will be worked out in the budget process in the weeks ahead," de Blasio said. "But I want people to understand that we are committed to shifting resources to ensure that the focus is on our young people."


“I also will affirm, while doing that, we will only do it in a way that we are certain continues to ensure that this city will be safe," he added.

The announcement came just hours after de Blasio announced that a city-wide curfew would no longer be in effect. The mayor said that the end to the policy stemmed from protests being largely peaceful in the city over the weekend.

Funding for police departments has become a major source of tension among protestors in wake of the death of Floyd, who died in police custody in Minneapolis. Many have called for diverting the investments towards other social services in certain communities.

City leaders in San Francisco and Los Angeles have responded to recent demonstrations by pledging to cut funding for the police. Members of the City Council in Minneapolis have called for dismantling its police department entirely. But Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey (D) voiced opposition to that stance on Saturday, prompting protestors to demand he leave the demonstration.

In New York City, dozens of employees at the Mayor’s Office of Criminal Justice signed a statement demanding that he endorse a list of policing reforms, according to the Times. Hundreds of former and current de Blasio staffers also sent an open letter to the mayor calling on him to cut the New York police's budget by $1 billion.
Ed Mullins, the president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, a police union, told The Times that he was skeptical of de Blasio's pledge.

“I know he just recently said that he wasn’t going to that,” Mullins said. “I guess, let’s see what he says on Monday and what his next decision is going to be.”

The "defund the police" movement has touched off a polarizing debate over what its goals are. Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza addressed that question on NBC's "Meet The Press" on Sunday, noting that "when we talk about defunding the police, what we're saying is 'invest in the resources that our communities need.’”

“Why can't we start to look at how it is that we reorganize our priorities so people don’t have to be in the streets protesting ... in a global pandemic?” she added.
 
NYC is about to turn into Liberty City.

The Worst Place in America.

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It should be reminded that only city folk think of New York as a “great” place to live.
Many people upstate, and somewhat in the suburbs, don’t think that the city of New York speaks for all New Yorkers.
This. As someone who lived in the Ballston Spa area for a couple of years, New York becomes some beautiful country the further away you get from NYC.

edit: would not live there again but it’s way more tolerable than NYC
 
The evolution of this is that by defunding the police, you will have a lot of the middle class families leave NYC in order to move to more law abiding areas, this will see a blue wave as Dem voters seeking refuge from their own policies invade middle America. At the same time, the rich of NYC who have to be there for the sake of business will be fine, they will merely hire PMC's as security firms to make sure that their assets are protected and will have reasonable cause as I doubt the form of the neighborhood watch dickheads like de Blasio will think will be effective.

So in this scenario of no police, you have it devolving into a mixture of.

A) corporate security and policing services for the uber rich (Just ask South Africa how that's worked for them.)
B) Local "community" policing groups that will follow their own agendas. (rival gangs, etc.)
C) Organised crime setting up protection rackets.
D) Federal agencies, like the FBI or the National Guard overseeing policing.

So for your average run of the mill citizen, if there is no police service then it will either fall under a federal jurisdiction or some tarpaper solution that the democrats put forth which will mean more vigilante style groups if it falls under an armed neighborhood watch sort of thing. This would lead to a spike in crime and then taper off to a reasonable level as different interest groups moved in to directly and defacto control things, so if you think NYC has a mafia problem in the Italian quarters, it's just starting. That said gang violence would have to drop, as people started tying up loose ends.

That or the Federals move in and take over all policing services, which in effect ends at least part of the states own control over it's policing or at least NYC in particular. I think the Feds would take point and eventual control, but only after the initial big increase in crime.
 
Tell that to De Blasio’s daughter.

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Not even I'm that desperate.

Race mixing... the ultimate in gene destruction.
Exhibit A.
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All that's proving is that DeNiro has shit genes and mulatto (or really any other type mixed race) males get the worst end of the stick. Halle Berry and Jennifer Beals (two mulatto minxes) still look amazing and they're in their 50s. They were bombshells in their younger years.
 
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That or the Federals move in and take over all policing services, which in effect ends at least part of the states own control over it's policing or at least NYC in particular. I think the Feds would take point and eventual control, but only after the initial big increase in crime.

You can't do that.


The Feds cannot do local policing, it's part of the whole concept of Federalism that there is no ability for the Feds to usurp local/state-level control, except in dire emergencies that threaten Federal law or property. Just "high crime" doesn't qualify.

And having no police force, by choice, is fucking stupid with predictable results, but, not an emergency that means the city can throw up their hands and say it's the National Guard or FBI's job to catch purse-snatchers now due to forever-emergency (tm) of having no police.

At the most, if NYC did this the DHS would be on permanent deployment at 1 Federal Plaza and the Reserve Bank of New York and the airports, but that is IT. Everyone else would have to fend for themselves.

If it were legal or feasible to "pass the buck" to the Feds, cities would have ALL disbanded their uniformed police long ago if for no other reason than to save money and hassle.
 
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Tbh, they should probably focus on funding these programs for social service and mental health before defunding the police because there will be a lag, but long-term, its not that bad an idea because so much of police time and effort is aimed at dealing with people like Tommy Tooter who call the cops every damn day on dumb bullshit, rather than having counselors that can redirect their behavior. Almost an hour on each of these calls.



Also, consider all of the swatting things that happen. Changing protocol so that 50 cops don't have to respond to a call on a shoebox of an apt would be a good idea. Maybe not. Go to 52 minutes in to see Our Little Hobo swatted.

 
See, this is what I'm worried about amid all the A C C E L E R A T E commotion. If police services get cut NYC will be pressured to show positive results and they will, even if they have to smudge up the numbers a little bit. Or a lot.

And it's not so funny when your town says "the biggest city in America can do it, why not us?"
 
Many people upstate, and somewhat in the suburbs, don’t think that the city of New York speaks for all New Yorkers.

As a Long Islander, I agree with this.

Or they want the NYC of the '70s back as some kind of nostalgia?

You'd be surprised at how many people actually want this. My last ex included... we were watching a documentary about Ed Kotch (because she wanted to... i guess it was interesting to her) and it talked about how NY was different in the 70's and she was all like "yea fuck Giuliani for cleaning up the place, the city is so fucking boring now!!". She grew up mostly in Queens, and lived most of her life in College Point (where she still lives).
 
I too kind of long for 70s-80s scummy NYC. But I even realize it was probably real shitty to live there. Still, that shit isnt coming back. They're not putting peep shows nor porno theaters back in. Thats all online. Its gonna be crack houses or other drug dens.
 
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Tbh, they should probably focus on funding these programs for social service and mental health before defunding the police because there will be a lag, but long-term, its not that bad an idea because so much of police time and effort is aimed at dealing with people like Tommy Tooter who call the cops every damn day on dumb bullshit, rather than having counselors that can redirect their behavior. Almost an hour on each of these calls.



Also, consider all of the swatting things that happen. Changing protocol so that 50 cops don't have to respond to a call on a shoebox of an apt would be a good idea. Maybe not. Go to 52 minutes in to see Our Little Hobo swatted.

Speds like Tom will harass city, county, state, and federal employees no matter how many numbers you give them to call. They are mad both on and off the internet and someone needs to do something about it, god damnit. If anything just hire counselors to answer phones at the police department and make them deputized officers or some shit so they don't have to go through the training, but they can still say their name is Officer so and so.
 
Folks, I wouldn't trust anything Blasio saids at this point.

In his second term, he is becoming one of the most unpopular mayors in NYC history.

Fucker is just trying to keep his job long enough so he can finish his term.

My guess is that this is just smoke and mirrors...

He has been constantly contradicting himself ever since Wuflu hit...
 
Theyre not putting in peep shows nor porno theaters.

That was my last ex's main criticism for wanting NY back to the 70's

In her 20's she used to work in a stripper joint serving drinks (not a bartender, she never made the drinks) and would sometimes do lap dances for dudes. According to her, she made good money doing that.
 
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