Manosphere IceCat - the defender of loveshies

Really, macie? So who were you talking about? Who are these incels who blame it on their parents? I am glad you finally realized I am not one, but who are they then?
Loveshy and incel in general. You aren't the only incel-wanna-be on these forums, my dear. There are several. And they ALL complain that their parents didn't help them get over their loveshy-ness or help them get girls. There's a few that have gotten violent with their guardians over such an issue; as you well know.

There are also tons of loveshy that blame women for not approaching them or helping them get laid... or for having too high standards and not accepting anyone below them.

So because @IceCat defends all loveshy and incel, I wanted to know if he agrees with this blame game or if he finds that loveshy/incel hold some of the blames for their failures too.
 
tbh I take LS/incel who claim they had good childhood etc. less seriously

if they are very ugly, well sorry, I do feel for it but of course it happens

if you are aspy despite having good childhood I really don't know what to say
it is likely you are getting good support if this is the case anyway, so you don't need
me to say anything anyway
 
tbh I take LS/incel who claim they had good childhood etc. less seriously

if they are very ugly, well sorry, I do feel for it but of course it happens

if you are aspy despite having good childhood I really don't know what to say
it is likely you are getting good support if this is the case anyway, so you don't need
me to say anything anyway

Are you sure your're a U.K native? Your English is incomprehensible.
 
tbh I take LS/incel who claim they had good childhood etc. less seriously

if they are very ugly, well sorry, I do feel for it but of course it happens

if you are aspy despite having good childhood I really don't know what to say
it is likely you are getting good support if this is the case anyway, so you don't need
me to say anything anyway
Does being a "loveshy" effect your grammar and formatting your paragraphs or is that just your childhood bout with wackness showing up again?
 
Loveshy and incel in general. You aren't the only incel-wanna-be on these forums, my dear. There are several. And they ALL complain that their parents didn't help them get over their loveshy-ness or help them get girls. There's a few that have gotten violent with their guardians over such an issue; as you well know.
I must admit I haven't see this. However, I haven't read umad's thread or anything. Who did this?

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I must admit I haven't see this. However, I haven't read umad's thread or anything. Who did this?
Seriously, you can't expect me to hand feed you everything Holden.
This forum is filled to the brim with loveshy/incels that get violent. Completely filled to the fucking brim.

@IceCat
So if an Incel/LS had a bad life, they are allowed to blame others for their failures? So if they had a bad life, they are allowed to say it's everyone else's fault that they do not have a partner? Is that what you're implying?

Because there are TONS of people out there that have HORRIBLE lives, far more than "oh I never got a girlfriend" or "my mommy didn't love me enough", and they grow up to do WONDERFUL things. There are victims of poverty and abuse that rise above and do great and beautiful things in this world.

For fuck's sake, there are full on celibates that go their whole lives without sex that do great and wonderful things for the world. They did not need a partner to rise above standard means and do great things... why are incels/loveshy any different? Why can't they rise above on their own? Why must they have a partner? And why is this lack of a partner a permit to do awful things without blame and correction?
 
Why not find out yourself? I thought meth was supposed to make you more active and willing to do tedious tasks.

It does make him more active. Problem is....our dear friend @Holden would rather waste his time shitposting here on Kiwi Farms than do anything that would actually matter in the long run like getting a job that pays or bettering himself so that he doesn't come off as a meth addled sex creep! ;)
 
Are you sure your're a U.K native? Your English is incomprehensible.
He's probably Welsh or some inbred obscure town

It does make him more active. Problem is....our dear friend @Holden would rather waste his time shitposting here on Kiwi Farms than do anything that would actually matter in the long run like getting a job that pays or bettering himself so that he doesn't come off as a meth addled sex creep! ;)
We also tried to help him immigrate to the states but doesn't understand the concept of offers and compared it to offering me overthrowing Ukraine.
I wish what I said made sense.
 
Seriously, you can't expect me to hand feed you everything Holden.
This forum is filled to the brim with loveshy/incels that get violent.[ /QUOTE]
I'm asking about the parents thing. Can't you at least name those who post about that?

We also tried to help him immigrate to the states but doesn't understand the concept of offers
No, you don't. You can't offer me something that isn't possible. Me coming to US isn't possible and to offer it is as retarded as you offering me Sicily.

wizzrobe - getting a job would make things even worse, unless it's an extremely high paying/high status job. i explained why many times.

bettering myself? what does that even mean? to attract modern western women you have to become worse, not better
 
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No, you don't. You can't offer me something that isn't possible. Me coming to US isn't possible and to offer it is as retarded as you offering me Sicily.

How is it impossible?
 
that have HORRIBLE lives, far more than "oh I never got a girlfriend"
No. Not having a partner is the worst thing, for it is the lack of the single most important factor for happiness.

How is it impossible?
Because they'd never allow me in. The reasons why they wouldn't are that I have no family there nor do I have a highly needed STEM degree with excellent grades and had worked there.
 
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No. Not having a partner is the worst thing, for it is the lack of the single most important factor for happiness.

That's bologna no matter how thin you slice it. The most important factor for happiness is in how you internally view yourself and the world. There are plenty of real celibate people who are way happier than most people.
 
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That's bologna no matter how thin you slice it. The most important factor for happiness is in how you internally view yourself and the world.
And what you described in the second sentence is connected to things that happen to you.

There are plenty of real celibate people who are way happier than most people.
What do you mean by "real"? That they've chosen it? So why wouldn't they be happy if they chose it?
 
@IceCat
Do you believe that having a wife/husband is the most important thing in a person's life?
Would you, personally, feel incomplete without a spouse? Do you think you could live a good and meaningful life without a spouse?

I would also like to know the answer to my other question too, if you'd be so kind. I'll requote it here:
So if an Incel/LS had a bad life, they are allowed to blame others for their failures? So if they had a bad life, they are allowed to say it's everyone else's fault that they do not have a partner? Is that what you're implying?

Because there are TONS of people out there that have HORRIBLE lives, far more than "oh I never got a girlfriend" or "my mommy didn't love me enough", and they grow up to do WONDERFUL things. There are victims of poverty and abuse that rise above and do great and beautiful things in this world.

For fuck's sake, there are full on celibates that go their whole lives without sex that do great and wonderful things for the world. They did not need a partner to rise above standard means and do great things... why are incels/loveshy any different? Why can't they rise above on their own? Why must they have a partner? And why is this lack of a partner a permit to do awful things without blame and correction?
 
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