Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

JeanActimel said:
When you say that those peoples will return to their nation you are talking about students?
Because if you are talking about non white born in america that's pretty dumb.
Since even in "their nation" they are treated like strangers.
Niggers won't feel at home in wakanda and just so you know japanese born outside of Japan are discriminated and counted as stranger by statistics there
Click to expand...
1. Yes, many international students do not want to remain in the USA.

2, Disagree. Non-whites and even whites came to the USA for a better quality of life. As America's quality of life decrease, and the quality of life in other nations increases, eventually we'll hit a point of parity where the quality of life is equal or even better. This is already the case for many Pacific rim nations. Is the USA a good nation to get a job and start a family and raise kids? I would say NO. Middle-class jobs are shrinking, there is more and more competition for upper-middle class jobs, upper-class and getting more and more assets / asset prices are too high (e.g. housing), and culture is degenerate, poor for raising a family. As whites become a minority, as crime increases, we'll get to a point where even Eastern Europe looks preferable to America.

3. In the long-run, as quality of life stabilizes around world (e.g. developing nations become developed), people will crave culture. This already happens to ex-pats that live in China. They find it fun at first to explore a new culture but eventually no place is like home. Many of these groups, e.g. Black or maybe even Asians, will never feel at home in America. Why are the SJWs creating non-white safe spaces for POC? Because many of these POC have grown up in a white nation their entire life and they don't like it. Just like white people don't want diversity, neither do many of these non-whites. BLM situation shows this too, only way blacks can feel safe from racism is with black police officers. In the long-run, people will tire of the hassle caused by diversity, all the self-censorship, inability to control the culture, and just the aesthetics. Most non whites don't care about the founding fathers simply because they're white and they cannot imagine them as their ancestors.

If you look into history, you will see that each movement only gets about 1 human lifetime to succeed. Slavery was 1789-1861 (72 yrs). Communism was 1917-1991 (74 yrs). Civil Rights (Diversity) 1964-present. Based on the past that means diversity will be over by ~2038. Obama should have been the smooth sailing point and instead race relations have gotten worse. We're past the point of no return. People are losing faith in diversity and this nation will collapse just like the USSR. This is inevitable. So our job is to recreate policies for the future, to prevent these issues from occurring and to deal with the inevitable collapse.

When I joined this movement in 2015, I was "omg liberals so crazy. Plz stop being anti-white." But as you start getting red-pilled, you realize the problems are far deeper. There is no way to go back to America ~2004. Only 1 way forward and the question is what kind of future do you want? I think the current policies will turn America into a 3rd world shithole.
 
  • Dumb
  • Autistic
  • Mad at the Internet
Reactions: 6thRanger, Fromtheblackdepths, Balanced Boomer and 16 others
BoxerShorts47 said:
1. Yes, many international students do not want to remain in the USA.

2, Disagree. Non-whites and even whites came to the USA for a better quality of life. As America's quality of life decrease, and the quality of life in other nations increases, eventually we'll hit a point of parity where the quality of life is equal or even better. This is already the case for many Pacific rim nations. Is the USA a good nation to get a job and start a family and raise kids? I would say NO. Middle-class jobs are shrinking, there is more and more competition for upper-middle class jobs, upper-class and getting more and more assets / asset prices are too high (e.g. housing), and culture is degenerate, poor for raising a family. As whites become a minority, as crime increases, we'll get to a point where even Eastern Europe looks preferable to America.

3. In the long-run, as quality of life stabilizes around world (e.g. developing nations become developed), people will crave culture. This already happens to ex-pats that live in China. They find it fun at first to explore a new culture but eventually no place is like home. Many of these groups, e.g. Black or maybe even Asians, will never feel at home in America. Why are the SJWs creating non-white safe spaces for POC? Because many of these POC have grown up in a white nation their entire life and they don't like it. Just like white people don't want diversity, neither do many of these non-whites. BLM situation shows this too, only way blacks can feel safe from racism is with black police officers. In the long-run, people will tire of the hassle caused by diversity, all the self-censorship, inability to control the culture, and just the aesthetics. Most non whites don't care about the founding fathers simply because they're white and they cannot imagine them as their ancestors.

If you look into history, you will see that each movement only gets about 1 human lifetime to succeed. Slavery was 1789-1861 (72 yrs). Communism was 1917-1991 (74 yrs). Civil Rights (Diversity) 1964-present. Based on the past that means diversity will be over by ~2038. Obama should have been the smooth sailing point and instead race relations have gotten worse. We're past the point of no return. People are losing faith in diversity and this nation will collapse just like the USSR. This is inevitable. So our job is to recreate policies for the future, to prevent these issues from occurring and to deal with the inevitable collapse.

When I joined this movement in 2015, I was "omg liberals so crazy. Plz stop being anti-white." But as you start getting red-pilled, you realize the problems are far deeper. There is no way to go back to America ~2004. Only 1 way forward and the question is what kind of future do you want? I think the current policies will turn America into a 3rd world shithole.
Click to expand...
Where did your Uncle Lester touch you? Show us on the doll.
 
  • Winner
  • Agree
  • Like
Reactions: 6thRanger, ComputerWife, FuckedUp and 7 others
BoxerShorts47 said:
1. Yes, many international students do not want to remain in the USA.

2, Disagree. Non-whites and even whites came to the USA for a better quality of life. As America's quality of life decrease, and the quality of life in other nations increases, eventually we'll hit a point of parity where the quality of life is equal or even better. This is already the case for many Pacific rim nations. Is the USA a good nation to get a job and start a family and raise kids? I would say NO. Middle-class jobs are shrinking, there is more and more competition for upper-middle class jobs, upper-class and getting more and more assets / asset prices are too high (e.g. housing), and culture is degenerate, poor for raising a family. As whites become a minority, as crime increases, we'll get to a point where even Eastern Europe looks preferable to America.

3. In the long-run, as quality of life stabilizes around world (e.g. developing nations become developed), people will crave culture. This already happens to ex-pats that live in China. They find it fun at first to explore a new culture but eventually no place is like home. Many of these groups, e.g. Black or maybe even Asians, will never feel at home in America. Why are the SJWs creating non-white safe spaces for POC? Because many of these POC have grown up in a white nation their entire life and they don't like it. Just like white people don't want diversity, neither do many of these non-whites. BLM situation shows this too, only way blacks can feel safe from racism is with black police officers. In the long-run, people will tire of the hassle caused by diversity, all the self-censorship, inability to control the culture, and just the aesthetics. Most non whites don't care about the founding fathers simply because they're white and they cannot imagine them as their ancestors.

If you look into history, you will see that each movement only gets about 1 human lifetime to succeed. Slavery was 1789-1861 (72 yrs). Communism was 1917-1991 (74 yrs). Civil Rights (Diversity) 1964-present. Based on the past that means diversity will be over by ~2038. Obama should have been the smooth sailing point and instead race relations have gotten worse. We're past the point of no return. People are losing faith in diversity and this nation will collapse just like the USSR. This is inevitable. So our job is to recreate policies for the future, to prevent these issues from occurring and to deal with the inevitable collapse.

When I joined this movement in 2015, I was "omg liberals so crazy. Plz stop being anti-white." But as you start getting red-pilled, you realize the problems are far deeper. There is no way to go back to America ~2004. Only 1 way forward and the question is what kind of future do you want? I think the current policies will turn America into a 3rd world shithole.
Click to expand...
HOLY SHIT WHO GIVES A FUCK

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO POST LITERALLY ANYTHING INTERESTING
 
  • Agree
  • Like
  • Feels
Reactions: 6thRanger, FuckedUp, Ellesse_warrior and 7 others
o5yagG.gif

You
 
  • Horrifying
  • Agree
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: FuckedUp, HIVidaBoheme, Troon Draugur and 5 others
BoxerShorts47 said:
1. Yes, many international students do not want to remain in the USA.

2, Disagree. Non-whites and even whites came to the USA for a better quality of life. As America's quality of life decrease, and the quality of life in other nations increases, eventually we'll hit a point of parity where the quality of life is equal or even better. This is already the case for many Pacific rim nations. Is the USA a good nation to get a job and start a family and raise kids? I would say NO. Middle-class jobs are shrinking, there is more and more competition for upper-middle class jobs, upper-class and getting more and more assets / asset prices are too high (e.g. housing), and culture is degenerate, poor for raising a family. As whites become a minority, as crime increases, we'll get to a point where even Eastern Europe looks preferable to America.

3. In the long-run, as quality of life stabilizes around world (e.g. developing nations become developed), people will crave culture. This already happens to ex-pats that live in China. They find it fun at first to explore a new culture but eventually no place is like home. Many of these groups, e.g. Black or maybe even Asians, will never feel at home in America. Why are the SJWs creating non-white safe spaces for POC? Because many of these POC have grown up in a white nation their entire life and they don't like it. Just like white people don't want diversity, neither do many of these non-whites. BLM situation shows this too, only way blacks can feel safe from racism is with black police officers. In the long-run, people will tire of the hassle caused by diversity, all the self-censorship, inability to control the culture, and just the aesthetics. Most non whites don't care about the founding fathers simply because they're white and they cannot imagine them as their ancestors.

If you look into history, you will see that each movement only gets about 1 human lifetime to succeed. Slavery was 1789-1861 (72 yrs). Communism was 1917-1991 (74 yrs). Civil Rights (Diversity) 1964-present. Based on the past that means diversity will be over by ~2038. Obama should have been the smooth sailing point and instead race relations have gotten worse. We're past the point of no return. People are losing faith in diversity and this nation will collapse just like the USSR. This is inevitable. So our job is to recreate policies for the future, to prevent these issues from occurring and to deal with the inevitable collapse.

When I joined this movement in 2015, I was "omg liberals so crazy. Plz stop being anti-white." But as you start getting red-pilled, you realize the problems are far deeper. There is no way to go back to America ~2004. Only 1 way forward and the question is what kind of future do you want? I think the current policies will turn America into a 3rd world shithole.
Click to expand...
You might have almost had points here if you weren't just building assumption after assumption on top of each other with easy to point out failures within each one. I'm going to start on point 2 since I don't want to dig through data to disprove a halalcow, and the phrase 'many' is so vague as to be basically irrelevant. You seem to be under the implicit assumption that the only reason people are within the USA is quality of life/optimism over quality of life and not due to patriotism, inability to leave, unawareness of the outside world, or awareness of how good things are, relatively speaking, within the Western world. This ties directly into your point 3, which has the assumption that quality of life will equalize around the world, something I find odd considering your white supremacist ideas. If that were the case, then would majority black areas not always be inferior? Furthermore, as media has become and will probably stay a relatively easy to transmit luxury through the Internet, would "culture" eventually not become something that can be accessed basically anywhere?

Finally, your fourth point depends on arbitrary start and end dates for slavery (which has been written about in some capacity since writing existed, and almost undoubtedly existed since the concept of labor existed), communism (which you seem to have just described as the lifespan of the Soviet Union from the October Revolution onwards and not regarded the pseudocommunist ideas that have been floating around since the 1500's and the fact that Marxism was not a brand new idea when Lenin was alive, nor the existence of pseudocommunist states such as North Korea to this day) diversity/racial and civil rights (which could be argued to go back to the Magna Carta at least).

In short, this was, by your standards, an actually intellectually almost sound post, but it falls apart under your own rules and ideas.
 
Last edited:
  • Winner
  • Like
Reactions: Ellesse_warrior, Tatu Carreta2, Tallarn Desert Raider and 5 others
Buster O'Keefe said:
If Null Jesus gave me a button that, when pressed, would kill any user of my choosing, I would choose @BoxerShorts47. Yes, I do know Tooter, Yaniv and a lot worse degenerates have accounts here.
Click to expand...
This guy is just an incel poser, not an actual pedo.

You really want Yaniv and Tooter to live out of your own satisfaction. That's quite horrific.
 
  • Like
  • Agree
  • Optimistic
Reactions: FuckedUp, SIGSEGV and Buster O'Keefe
Buster O'Keefe said:
@BoxerShorts47 wants to gas an entire race, I just want to gas him. I think I'm the reasonable guy here.
Click to expand...

If you get mad they win, chill out and laugh at him. This little fucker wants to go on an IRL university tour and explain why age of consent is bullshit alongside white nationalist talking points, his own plan falls on its face because the moment he starts sperging about the good ol' days when we could fuck 13 years olds while being at a legal drinking age no one will give a fuck about his points.

Save your button for someone actually relevant to society at large, instead of using a one use death ray to kill a hobo.
 
  • Feels
  • Dumb
  • Agree
Reactions: The Spice boi, Troon Draugur, Dead Mime and 2 others
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back