Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Stilgar of Troon]

They should have take him out to the back of the school and shoot him.

Couple of bricks, he's not worth the round.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

This thread just proves that he wasn't bullied enough.

For someone that brings up natural selection a million times, he sure somehow has dodged it considering he is still alive and able to breath. Unless he really is 12, in which case he hasn't had enough time for it to take effect.

By the way @BoxerShorts47 you never verbally responded to my offer, you just gave me a like. All your posts in this thread voted informative by me in exchange for a proper thumb dox as with the terms as written by this post.

Thumb dox should have my user name written on it. This is the traditional way to prove it's not fake. Alternatively a thumb holding an egg will also be accepted.

@BoxerShorts47 dox your thumb already. No one will take you seriously until you at least prove you're white

Do we have a deal or no?

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

and abolishing k-12 is for a completely different reason. compulsory education is very inefficient + filled with propaganda, it drives many kids mad and they get put on ADHD meds be

This is ample evidence of what @BoxerShorts47's experience of school was like and why he is now an angry retard. Doesn't explain his thirst for 12 year olds: that's just plain old perversion.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

This is ample evidence of @BoxerShorts47 experience of school was like and why he is now an angry retard. Doesn't explain his thirst for 12 year olds: that's just plain old perversion.

Considering he uses Japan as a reason why ethnostates are good, he is probably a closet weeb and just says Sailor Moon is degenerate to hide that fact.

 

[Spamy the Bot]

Why do all the greatest successful countries of the 20th century have high age of consent laws if it's a bad thing?

Say what you want about feminism, the fact that having 16 year old mothers is de-incentivised help doubling the workforce and the consumer base as well.
Considering well-off countries have much better birth-to-death ratios due to improved standards makes having a baby spam redundant.
If one needs an army of child laborers to do agriculture or very early industrial jobs then the older standards makes sense in context, especially many kids would die before reaching adulthood.

I am not supporting the current anti-natalist perspective of the West, but one would quickly start seeing diminishing returns on having a population boom when it comes to quality of life and wealth distribution. If people were still breeding, like they used to, the US would have a population of around a billion+ by now. Which is good if you want cheap infantry, a lowly paid manufacturing base and people getting a smaller piece of the pie. (The ecological impact would be major as well.)

Edit: The economy would adapt with having worse jobs if there was a huge pool of child workers. In a way the generally high barriers to entry to work can force people to have better standards and jobs. It is not the singular thing, considering regulation, the general economic context and technology too is important, but I think this side of the supply-demand theory seems to hold us as well.

Edit 2: In general bad practices like child-marriages, -labor etc. seem to go away after the society has built up enough capital. Because they are economically backwards and start to hurt the well-being of the people after a certain level.

 

[The Spice boi]

You're a dumbass and arguing in bad faith. We're living in the collapse of America and to go into the future, we need to fix the mistakes of the past and change many of these laws that do fundamentally control/engineer our lives. Nations that restructure and modernize for a 21st century will continue into the future and nations that do not (like USA) will collapse by the end of the century. Many of these laws like age of consent or compulsory education or term limits are not reexamined. What are the consequences of these laws? Good. Bad. Net? People pass these laws like religious commandants and they don't examine the real world effects. Total incompetence.


It's weird because of the age of consent. People will falsely accuse you of pedophoile. People conflate sex with relationship. Having 16 or 18 as age of consent makes people think that 14-18 yr olds are still children, no different from 6-10. There is a cultural or mental impact from age of consent. Just the words people use. Is a 14 yr old a girl or a women? Is she more similar to a 7yr old or a 21 yr old? Once you start thinking about this concept, you realize it is a problem. Is it the biggest problem? No. But it's a problem and jailbat comes up frequently enough so this issue will keep occurring until the laws are changed to match human nature. Similar to the weed or prohibition laws.


1. People would stop treating 14-18 yr olds as little kids and start treating them as young adults.
2. The data is showing that home schooling is having better results than public schooling. At this point you can learn efficiently from educational youtube channels than in the classroom. Compulsory education laws and age of consent both stem from the modern period 1880-1920 when many social changes and reforms were put into place. Again, to go into the future, you need to break the chains that bind us to the past, including age of consent, complementary education, civil rights, great society, US Cons. etc. We need a complete restructure in terms to go into the future.


Automation builds upon capitalism but you cannot automate everything. There will be jobs for humans in the future and we need to develop industries that aren't easy to automate. Look at a lot of content creators on YouTube, you cannot automate those videos with AI.

I think that if your society has the avg IQ of a makeup video it'll be a worse place to live than if it had the avg iq of a science video. I think this era of rampant individualism and politics also as a religion is coming to an end and nations that can work together as a group will advance into the future and those that cannot will become low quality of life dystopias and current America is on this path.

Again, IQ doesn't matter.

Machines are on the verge of becoming equals to us as doctors and lawyers. Hell, machines are making art and music. There will be jobs, but not for everyone. For a lot of people, actually.

The idea of removing people until you reach a point where the problems go away will just leave you with an aristocratic elite and youre back to square one.

Even if you solve the problems of today with your beliefs, itll break down in the future. Because the white people of tomorrow will be robbits

 

[Spamy the Bot]

What are the consequences of these laws? Good. Bad. Net? People pass these laws like religious commandants and they don't examine the real world effects. Total incompetence.

Ironic hearing that from you, considering you seem to pass out judgement and commandments like you are Zeus sitting on Mt. Olympus.

For example, what the ripples in society and perhaps the world would be if you deported millions of people who would be aliens in the places you want to send them?
You would either enable a type of colonial expanse of the new group, clashing with the existing society and culture or basically set up a civil war and/or genocide.
I am not passing judgement on the idea, but rounding up a few millions of people in a country the size of a small continent is a big task on it's own.
Not to mention it's something that is not defensible for the population on a moral or ethical ground.

 

[Swiss46]

I do the block list for you. If I didn't block those people, they would spam up my thread and I'd never respond to you.

He does it not for honor, but for you.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

Also if we deport all non- whites, where am I gonna get a good banh mi or vindaloo? What, you expect me to eat doro wot cooked by a white guy? Use your fuckin' brain, Garcia. Jesus fuckin Christ

 

[Heckler1]

@BoxerShorts47 do you have Asperger's or autism?

 

[Doctor Placebo]

We need to decrease the population in a sustainable way and focus on improving the quality of life for the avg person (not necessarily GDP per capita PPP but similar idea). I don't think there is a future for humans that are sub 130 IQ. Most of human history has been natural selection towards higher IQ people. Over the last 10,000 years we've had a different mindset of quantity > quality because of agriculture and industrial revolution but automation will put the lower end of the population out of work. inevitable. You can always reframe an unemployment problem as an overpopulation problem.

Real GDP USA was 550B in 1960, 20.5T today. 41x higher. Is the quality of life 41x higher today? Maybe a few X. Our current model of max GDP growth disproportionally helps the rich because they own the means of production (capital/stocks/bonds). I think lowering the population size/less overcrowding + increase IQ, would make your society overall better place to live in the long-run and this is completely contrary to the current vision of max population, max GDP (consumption), subsidize and encourage low IQ births, which IMO will cripple America and many other western nations by the end of the century.

I also think people will take advantage of designer babies when they get the opportunity and people are already aborting fetuses with genetic defects. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37500189
Eugenics is going to be part of life. inevitable.

So you want women to marry younger and crank out more babies, and your also concerned with the white race being bred out of existence, but you also want to decrease the population of the white ethnostate.

What.

If avg age of marriage was 20f/26m that means you had people on the left side of the curve. e.g. 17f/23m and since people usually don't get married immediately, you could reasonably say that the relationship maybe stared 6m-1yr prior 16f/21m. So high age of consent is preventing/criminalizing relationships would be on the left side of the bell curve. Are these relationships going to be the norm? no. but are they ones that did occur in the past and still (sorta) occur today .e.g jailbait, yes. Ultimately you are criminalizing normal human relationships.

You clearly didn't bother reading or paying attention to my link about courtship in the 1800's. Women were a lot less likely to be dating their future husbands for years back then and a whole lot less likely to be having sex before marriage because of iron clad social taboos on premarital sex that resulted in social conditions where it was difficult to even get the chance to fuck while courting.

Have you ever seen The Patriot? Do you remember that scene where Heath Ledger wants to cuddle alone with his fiance (who's in her 20's like him) so they sew him up in a giant body sock so he can't get his dick out (at least not without being found out)? That was one of the few things in that movie that was historically accurate. Although we don't have stats on clandestine relationships for obvious reasons, it stands to reason that far less girls (and guys) were having sex in their teens back then due to reasons that have nothing to do with age of consent and everything to do with heavy chaperoning and societal disapproval (sometimes legal consequences too, since in some of the earlier periods, fornication was actually against the law) compared to now, when free love is basically the standard for romantic relationships everywhere outside of very conservative Christian culture (and Islamic culture, which is a whole nother thing).

Your way of thinking, that having sex with a partner before marriage during a lengthy period of dating is normal, is ironically a product of modern liberalism. Couples back then were expected to remain chaste before marriage, and there were a lot of social constructs based around enforcing that. Even in those outlier groups (and using outlier groups to argue the rule for society is complete nonsense) where younger girl were getting married (mostly on the rougher, less civilized frontier), they were expected to marry before having sex. There was no "path to marriage" bullshit revolving around the age of consent. That's something you invented.

You're a degenerate nonce.

 

[GethN7]

When I am king by divine right, I will hunt down every retarded pedophile faggot nigger and execute him personally.

May your reign be long and glorious, and I beseech God to grant that your sword arm always strikes true to defend the children of your realms.

 

[Pissmaster]

@BoxerShorts47 congrats on breaking -4000 points!

 

[FitBitch]

This has been very entertaining reading material this week. This guy needed a bully figure in his life, someone to steal his lunch money and call him a faggot before he built up such a superiority complex.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

NGL, that's impressive; over -4000 in less than 5 months and 700-something posts.

 

[Spamy the Bot]

This has been very entertaining reading material this week. This guy needed a bully figure in his life, someone to steal his lunch money and call him a faggot before he built up such a superiority complex.

The saddest thing is, his hubris will be unbroken.

@BoxerShorts47 congrats on breaking -4000 points!

NGL, that's impressive; over -4000 in less than 5 months and 700-something posts.

I think @BoxerShorts47 generated all the positive points, for the posters he was supposed to defeat.
Tragic, he sought to have the kiwi internet stickers but everybody but him could get them.

 

[snailslime]

@BoxerShorts47 you know we see your online activity? why don't you come out and plaaayy

 

[Doctor Placebo]

This has been very entertaining reading material this week. This guy needed a bully figure in his life, someone to steal his lunch money and call him a faggot before he built up such a superiority complex.

Maybe he did. A black guy named Jamal and a 12 year old girl named Betsy Lou. He coped by fantasizing about sending Jamal back to Africa and forcing Betsy Lou to become his sex slave. The fantasy has never ended.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

NGL, that's impressive; over -4000 in less than 5 months and 700-something posts.

It is worth remembering that Boxer didn't really lose points that often until this exact thread and iirc he had around 200 or so posts before this thread, and he still had his sperging in the George Floyd Riots thread. So if you want to get technical he got -4000~ points in the last 500~ posts within the last 2 weeks.

YOUR WINNER

 

[Just A Butt]

It is worth remembering that Boxer didn't really lose points that often until this exact thread and iirc he had around 200 or so posts before this thread, and he still had his sperging in the George Floyd Riots thread. So if you want to get technical he got -4000~ points in the last 500~ posts within the last 2 weeks.

YOUR WINNER

Don’t forget the rally he got from his “supporters”

He would be at close to -5000 if it wasn’t for that. Which is why I am starting to suspect that he’s shifted his goal from getting anyone to agree, and is now just farming negrates for no discernible reason. Probably so he can say “lol look how triggered they are. This means I’m winning”