The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

This "not meant to be fun" crap is really bugging me for some reason.

Schindler's List wasn't meant to be fun either, but there's a big difference between paying $10-$20 to observe a 3 hour movie, and paying $60 to play a 30 hour game in which you are actively gassing the defenseless Jews. Not only in length, but in active vs. passive.
Fun fact(and I've mentioned this elsewhere): Steven Spielberg was retaking college classes during and after the release of Schindler's List at Cal State Long Beach, and actually submitted this Academy Award-winning triple-A studio blockbuster to his advanced filmmaking class as his final project. Hilarious flex :story:

That kinda shit happens all the time in real life throughout history though, applying it to the internet isn't really that revolutionary of a concept. MGS2 ending codecs are cool though.
Naked Raiden cartwheeling through Evangelion's Instrumentality is what really makes the codecs writing pop.
 
I don't know, they both seem to like huffing their own farts and pretending they are doing something revolutionary.
Kojima as a person from what i remember, has always been a very pacifist person/anti-war, dispite his rampant love for gun porn. to the point that his games tend to not only come with such a message, usually also have the means to complete without killing anyone.
That and the message behind Death Stranding is completely opposite of TLOU2
 
Okay, so Abby bites off Ellie's fingers which means she can't play the guitar and be reminded of her adoptive father. That sucks. But why does Dina and her child leave them? Did they just want to put it in as a fuck you to the protagonist and/or the player who has undoubtedly become attached to her. Is there any reason why Dina would have abandoned Ellie? I thought they were supposed to be in WUV or something?

So, yeah, they just wanted to be super bleak for its own sake. That is not good writing. That is, in fact, very bad writing.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure it's possible to play the guitar less two fingers. Assuming Ellie is right handed, if the two lost fingers are the first two fingers on her right hand, she could use a pick or a pick substitute between ring, little finger, and thumb to play. If it's on her left hand, she could retrain herself to play left handed in a similar manner.

I know this is glurgy, but there was a story about a man who lost both his legs in a car accident, He kept upbeat about it by saying that before the accident there were 10,000 different things he could theoretically do that day, and without his legs there were 9,000. That's a reduction of only 10 percent.

(Of course, if Druckmann wanted to be super bleak, he could point out that the human mouth is absolutely crawling with pathogens and this being the brave new mushroom zombie world, the bitten off finger stumps are probably likely to get infected and it's a race to see whether sepsis kills her before a passing shroombie or marauder gets to her first because I doubt she's got an IV drip of amoxicillin in her pocket. But he's not bright enough to have thought of that.)
 
Though i get what you are saying actually, they both make their staff look/watch shit for inspiration. The only difference being When Kojima has them watch one of his favorite classics, its the man with no name, When Druckman does it, Its Daisy's Destruction
 
Kojima as a person from what i remember, has always been a very pacifist person/anti-war, dispite his rampant love for gun porn. to the point that his games tend to not only come with such a message, usually also have the means to complete without killing anyone.
That and the message behind Death Stranding is completely opposite of TLOU2
I'm talking more so in regards to Kojimas behavior compared to Druckmann, their games are obviously very different but Kojima jerks himself off just as much if not more than Druckmann.
 
Though i get what you are saying actually, they both make their staff look/watch shit for inspiration. The only difference being When Kojima has them watch one of his favorite classics, its the man with no name, When Druckman does it, Its Daisy's Destruction
Wasn't DD a shitty Internet myth?
 
Sadly no. Though parts of it were most likely exaggerated by the internet. Guy who made it was arrested a while back.
Oh, fuck. I hope it was exaggerated, because what I read about it was utterly inhumane. I hope that guy gets a small, private prison cell to keep him safe, one he's not allowed out of under any circumstances, one where there's no windows or lights and is covered in noise-cancelling padding.
 
I'm talking more so in regards to Kojimas behavior compared to Druckmann, their games are obviously very different but Kojima jerks himself off just as much if not more than Druckmann.

Kojima would probably sooner die than ever utter something that boils down to not making games that are fun. I mean, holy crap this is the guy whose biggest claim to fame is a series about one man spec ops against increasingly absurd looking giant robots built to fire nukes in a world where people have inexplicable super powers for pretty much no goddamn reason whatsoever. Heck, with MGS3 specifically, when he learned that the devs were making stupid little comedy shorts with the game assets, he insisted they include them and they became the Secret Theatre shorts which frankly are nothing but the game taking the piss out of how stupid everything is and they're great.

Sure, the guy has an ego as big as a planet, but he's earned it generally because he's proven capable on his own if given full control. Cuckman obviously can't because look at how much shit has been discussed and yet at no point has any of it involved the zombies. Its pretty much nothing but an interactive movie about violent lesbians post-collapse of civilization in the most generic and boring way possible.

I didn't know what Daisy's Destruction was until you all mentioned it, and I wish it stayed that way.

Yeah, I'm not even googling that.
 
So wait, if the game ends with Ellie unable to play guitar because Abby bit off some of her fingers...
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....is that what the statue is suppose to be? The end game spoiler?
 
So wait, if the game ends with Ellie unable to play guitar because Abby bit off some of her fingers...
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....is that what the statue is suppose to be? The end game spoiler?
How the fuck would losing two fingers even render you unable to play guitar? Unless it's your thumb you can still play that shit with missing fingers.
 
Kojima would probably sooner die than ever utter something that boils down to not making games that are fun. I mean, holy crap this is the guy whose biggest claim to fame is a series about one man spec ops against increasingly absurd looking giant robots built to fire nukes in a world where people have inexplicable super powers for pretty much no goddamn reason whatsoever. Heck, with MGS3 specifically, when he learned that the devs were making stupid little comedy shorts with the game assets, he insisted they include them and they became the Secret Theatre shorts which frankly are nothing but the game taking the piss out of how stupid everything is and they're great.

Sure, the guy has an ego as big as a planet, but he's earned it generally because he's proven capable on his own if given full control. Cuckman obviously can't because look at how much shit has been discussed and yet at no point has any of it involved the zombies. Its pretty much nothing but an interactive movie about violent lesbians post-collapse of civilization in the most generic and boring way possible.



Yeah, I'm not even googling that.

Comparing Kojima to Cuckman is fucking idiotic. Kojima loves Hollywood and movies but understands he's making games first and foremost and wants them to be fun. You can say he's 'huffing his own farts' but I don't buy that. Kojima always seems very humbled by his fans. And speaking of MGS 3, they're talking about nightmares and one of the guy's nightmares has a monster where everyone turns to shit and its one gigantic shit monster. In his super serious political thriller. Yeah.

You can get that impression based on his plots, but there are a lot of things in MGS games that are funny and don't take themselves seriously. He has a message to send, but then you have Raiden cartwheeling naked while holding his junk, "I NEED SCISSORS 61" and all sorts of shit.
 
How the fuck would losing two fingers even render you unable to play guitar? Unless it's your thumb you can still play that shit with missing fingers.
It also depends which hand she loses her fingers on, if it's her left hand she won't be able to easily finger a minor while playing with her g-string, if it's her right she should be okay as long as she has her thumb as well as her index and/or middle finger.

Comparing Kojima to Cuckman is fucking idiotic. Kojima loves Hollywood and movies but understands he's making games first and foremost and wants them to be fun.
Counterpoint: MGS4. 5 minutes of gameplay to get to the next 30-minute cutscene.
 
How does Abby even bite Ellie's fingers off? Does she work her jaw muscles out too?

What's Ellie even doing that she has her fingers near Abby's mouth? Is it a case of "I need to defend myself against this person and her fingers are near my mouth sooo..." or does Abby go "lmao I'm gonna bite this bitch's fingers off" and intentionally go for her hands?

Part of me wants to think this is fake because it's just so absurd but I don't know, this is Naughty Dog we're talking about.
 
How does Abby even bite Ellie's fingers off? Does she work her jaw muscles out too?
If you can bite through a raw carrot the odds are good you can bite through the first knuckle. People can actually bite really hard, but unless it's a life-or-death moment they won't bite at full force. Just look at protocol for dealing with people having a seizure, keep your fingers the fuck away from their mouth, unless you don't need them.
 
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