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lol, you realise that the was based solely off of census data which has nothing to do with tourism which is what the post your quoting is referring to.
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This doesn't dispute my suggestion that tourists are easy game in the big smoke (Japanese, Canadian and Ameticans on holiday seem to be the most into the accents) but hey, if you think moving to Merseyside is a better game plan, do that.
Why don't you move, if you think this is the answer? You don't seem to do much to improve things, why not put some of the greased neckbeard circle jerk energy into doing something?
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I should have a transcript up by this afternoon for you guys.
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#RIPIceCat #HopefullyCopDogIsForgiving
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By the way @IceCat, congratulations on becoming the 8th most disliked member on Kiwi Farms. You've really earned it.
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@IceCat, I have a question. Do you see yourself as introverted and would like to be able to overcome your social anxiety?
If this is in fact the case, I found a good post on a website dedicated to giving advice to people in situations similar to yours.
If this is in fact the case, I found a good post on a website dedicated to giving advice to people in situations similar to yours.
I’m going to give you the same advice I give everyone I train since there’s a lot of overlap between overcoming Approach Anxiety and and becoming more extroverted. First off, stop reading books, watching videos, and so on. All it’s going to do is fill your head with a bunch of conflicting info and cause you to “brain lock” when you do eventually attempt to use the material. Second, don’t be the guy who’s consumes all of this info, but then never puts any of it into practice. Now that that’s out of the way, on to the fun stuff.
Love Shyness, or what we colloquially refer to as Approach Anxiety (AA) is a mixture of stage freight and fear of rejection. The first part I want to discuss, the stage freight aspect, will lessen the more you are exposed to it. For this I highly recommend getting involved in public speaking clubs such as Toastmasters, and definitely take a speech course at your local community college. An improv class will also help out greatly in mitigating stage freight.
The second aspect of AA, fear of rejection, is a little more problematic in overcoming. Most of us with AA have suffered from pretty bad experiences with women. These negative experiences served as negative reinforcement which we’ve associated with talking to women we’re interested in. Over time this became internalized and associated with women we are attracted to. It’s actually a pretty unhealthy thing when you think about it. Solving this is not an overnight process and requires face-to-face interactions with women, the goal of which is to build up a foundation of positive reinforcement.
In my opinion getting over AA is a lot simpler than many people realize. A lot of emphasis in the seduction community is placed on breaking the ice using various openers, but in the long run this is one of the more trivial aspects of “Game”. If you can find a style or system that matches up with your personality and established communication style, the more naturally you’ll communicate using it. Faking it until you make it can work, but you’ll be fighting an uphill battle trying to be something you’re not. Don’t get me wrong, I do teach my students a basic structure, but to do so is beyond the scope of this article. Instead I want you to focus on improving your social attributes. This is where the public speaking comes into play and why I recommend Toastmasters and the speech course.
Gambits and routines are great training wheels to help you get over AA because they give you confidence in knowing what to say, but important to note they’re only short-term fixes. What usually happens is guys using them have to keep coming back to the well to get more and more material as their interactions develop and they keep running out of things to say. Instead of this rabbit hole I strongly recommend going out and just winging it. Experience is the #1 teacher. You’ll improve far faster in the field than you ever will reading books and digesting information found on pickup forums. Below is a very simple three-pronged methodology that will do wonders for mitigating your AA, all without trying to become Mr Pickup Artist:
1. Start working on your verbal and non-verbal communications. Stand in front of a mirror and watch how you move, hand gestures, your posture, and so on. Record yourself giving a 1 minute speech and when you play it back pay attention to the pacing of your speech, pitch, tonality, and so on. One of the most common faults we have is moving and talking too fast, so try slowing things down. That single change can do wonders for making your communications much more deliberate, both in what you say and how you say it.
2. Start out just saying “hi” to people in your day to day life. As you get more comfortable with this start working up to small talk. BS about the weather, ask about interesting trinkets they may be wearing, or perhaps comment on their interesting accent. Things of that nature will slowly chip away at the stage freight aspect of AA and get you into the habit of talking to people throughout your day. The end result is that you’ll become much more extroverted. Note: the only time I want you going online looking for help with approaching is if you are constantly getting blown out when doing so. Odd are what you’re saying isn’t the problem, but how you’re saying it that’s the problem.
3. Begin talking to people you’re not attracted to. Then work your way up to talking to women you’re not really that interested in. Eventually you’ll need to start talking to women you are interested in. As you build up to this stage you’re laying the foundation of the positive reinforcement I mentioned above.
This methodology will drastically reduce your approach anxiety, improve the core external elements of interpersonal communication, and will foster a more extroverted persona to the outside world. Overtime this will become internalized and you’ll truly become an extroverted person. However, you need to understand that it does indeed take time. There is no magic bullet that will cure AA or make one outgoing. Confidence is born from experience and positive reinforcement, which this methodology will foster. Experience and repetition will cement these elements into your personality as a whole as being social is a practiced activity, and like any other habit it can take weeks or months, and sometimes years, to become integrated into who you are.
Final thoughts:
Social skills are perishable so you’ve got to stay on top of things. Being social day in and day out is what it’s all about. If you catch yourself slipping back into old habits you’ve got to make corrections immediately. Do not wait until Monday or the first of the month to make a fresh start. This applies equally to any self-improvement you make in life.
Love Shyness, or what we colloquially refer to as Approach Anxiety (AA) is a mixture of stage freight and fear of rejection. The first part I want to discuss, the stage freight aspect, will lessen the more you are exposed to it. For this I highly recommend getting involved in public speaking clubs such as Toastmasters, and definitely take a speech course at your local community college. An improv class will also help out greatly in mitigating stage freight.
The second aspect of AA, fear of rejection, is a little more problematic in overcoming. Most of us with AA have suffered from pretty bad experiences with women. These negative experiences served as negative reinforcement which we’ve associated with talking to women we’re interested in. Over time this became internalized and associated with women we are attracted to. It’s actually a pretty unhealthy thing when you think about it. Solving this is not an overnight process and requires face-to-face interactions with women, the goal of which is to build up a foundation of positive reinforcement.
In my opinion getting over AA is a lot simpler than many people realize. A lot of emphasis in the seduction community is placed on breaking the ice using various openers, but in the long run this is one of the more trivial aspects of “Game”. If you can find a style or system that matches up with your personality and established communication style, the more naturally you’ll communicate using it. Faking it until you make it can work, but you’ll be fighting an uphill battle trying to be something you’re not. Don’t get me wrong, I do teach my students a basic structure, but to do so is beyond the scope of this article. Instead I want you to focus on improving your social attributes. This is where the public speaking comes into play and why I recommend Toastmasters and the speech course.
Gambits and routines are great training wheels to help you get over AA because they give you confidence in knowing what to say, but important to note they’re only short-term fixes. What usually happens is guys using them have to keep coming back to the well to get more and more material as their interactions develop and they keep running out of things to say. Instead of this rabbit hole I strongly recommend going out and just winging it. Experience is the #1 teacher. You’ll improve far faster in the field than you ever will reading books and digesting information found on pickup forums. Below is a very simple three-pronged methodology that will do wonders for mitigating your AA, all without trying to become Mr Pickup Artist:
1. Start working on your verbal and non-verbal communications. Stand in front of a mirror and watch how you move, hand gestures, your posture, and so on. Record yourself giving a 1 minute speech and when you play it back pay attention to the pacing of your speech, pitch, tonality, and so on. One of the most common faults we have is moving and talking too fast, so try slowing things down. That single change can do wonders for making your communications much more deliberate, both in what you say and how you say it.
2. Start out just saying “hi” to people in your day to day life. As you get more comfortable with this start working up to small talk. BS about the weather, ask about interesting trinkets they may be wearing, or perhaps comment on their interesting accent. Things of that nature will slowly chip away at the stage freight aspect of AA and get you into the habit of talking to people throughout your day. The end result is that you’ll become much more extroverted. Note: the only time I want you going online looking for help with approaching is if you are constantly getting blown out when doing so. Odd are what you’re saying isn’t the problem, but how you’re saying it that’s the problem.
3. Begin talking to people you’re not attracted to. Then work your way up to talking to women you’re not really that interested in. Eventually you’ll need to start talking to women you are interested in. As you build up to this stage you’re laying the foundation of the positive reinforcement I mentioned above.
This methodology will drastically reduce your approach anxiety, improve the core external elements of interpersonal communication, and will foster a more extroverted persona to the outside world. Overtime this will become internalized and you’ll truly become an extroverted person. However, you need to understand that it does indeed take time. There is no magic bullet that will cure AA or make one outgoing. Confidence is born from experience and positive reinforcement, which this methodology will foster. Experience and repetition will cement these elements into your personality as a whole as being social is a practiced activity, and like any other habit it can take weeks or months, and sometimes years, to become integrated into who you are.
Final thoughts:
Social skills are perishable so you’ve got to stay on top of things. Being social day in and day out is what it’s all about. If you catch yourself slipping back into old habits you’ve got to make corrections immediately. Do not wait until Monday or the first of the month to make a fresh start. This applies equally to any self-improvement you make in life.
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Heh thanks man, but I no longer suffer from ls/social anxiety
but maybe someone who does will read that, thanks for posting
but maybe someone who does will read that, thanks for posting
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Why do you go to loveshy.com if you are not a loveshy?
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I'm ex-loveshy and technically incel also
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...incel and loveshy are practically the same things. It looks like you haven't changed a bit
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You said in the interview that you were 32 and the last girlfriend you had was 8 years ago. Are you unhappy because of this? Do you have trouble meeting women? Are you truly satisfied with the way things are going in your life?
Answer honestly please.
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I noticed that you tend to refer to loveshy and social anxiety interchangably. Do you believe the two are one and the same or something similar?
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I feel like IceCat isn't being honest. I ask him why he would be on a website that caters to loveshy's when he himself is not a loveshy, he dodges the question and says he isn't a loveshy. Thats like going to a person in an insane asylum, asking somebody from one of the cells, "Why are you here if you aren't crazy?" to which the person in the cell replies: "I'm not crazy!"
I ask him if he is truly satisfied with the way things are going in his life, he doesn't answer.
This is very suspicious, @IceCat.
I ask him if he is truly satisfied with the way things are going in his life, he doesn't answer.
This is very suspicious, @IceCat.
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"Technically incel". Dude that's called having no swag.
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AKA a dry spell, AKA just not getting any, AKA not an actual condition so, Icecat, quit your bitching and figure your shit out, whether you do it yourself or need to get therapy.
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no last gf was not 8 yrs ago, technically I could even say a few months ago
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