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why bother at all than? you find better classes online...
I dont get why people hate the masks. we have to use them if we enter a shop and in public transport. its not a problem.
Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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Got an email from the CS chair confirming all fall CS classes will be online. Dropped all of them because fuck this bullshit. Going to drop my math major and just finish my CS classes this spring.
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@FuckedUp Yup. I'm in the same place mentally, here, let me try to help.
If Covid was a bundle of straw, the camel of mine whose back has been broken is the idea that anything short of total catastrophe will ever wake up the masses. Ever. Not ever. People are aggressive in their zeal to not be unplugged from the pod for even five minutes. So long as there is even one tube left feeding them their gruel, they wont leave. Take away sports and music venues and people just double down onto internet media and porn. Frankly tiny parts of the world have woken up as a result of this and they are the ones who have now been put through catastrophe as in the business owners or struggling workers who have lost everything or sat idly by waiting for the cops to save them as their livelihood was looted. So maybe a handful in contrast to tens of thousands of "lol just calm down over politics brah" who remain uninterested in world affairs.
That is in every way a losing battle. It is not worth the damage to yourself to lie awake at night trying to save those who will not save themselves. Please, for your own health, stop trying. If these people, fuck it I'll go full /pol/, these NPC normie scum have not decided to think critically of their own accord, stop trying to make them and stop being angered by their stupidity in the face of those who would outright try to destroy them. Let them be destroyed. Your exasperation at their choice to remain asleep will only make them want to listen to you less.
Every time you see a post that makes your blood boil, dont respond, dont try to think up arguments to use against it, just move on and hope that circumstance will change their minds because mere words never will.
Now I didnt read your post you deleted and I may be just talking out of my ass and you know this already but there my idea of trying to help at least.
If Covid was a bundle of straw, the camel of mine whose back has been broken is the idea that anything short of total catastrophe will ever wake up the masses. Ever. Not ever. People are aggressive in their zeal to not be unplugged from the pod for even five minutes. So long as there is even one tube left feeding them their gruel, they wont leave. Take away sports and music venues and people just double down onto internet media and porn. Frankly tiny parts of the world have woken up as a result of this and they are the ones who have now been put through catastrophe as in the business owners or struggling workers who have lost everything or sat idly by waiting for the cops to save them as their livelihood was looted. So maybe a handful in contrast to tens of thousands of "lol just calm down over politics brah" who remain uninterested in world affairs.
That is in every way a losing battle. It is not worth the damage to yourself to lie awake at night trying to save those who will not save themselves. Please, for your own health, stop trying. If these people, fuck it I'll go full /pol/, these NPC normie scum have not decided to think critically of their own accord, stop trying to make them and stop being angered by their stupidity in the face of those who would outright try to destroy them. Let them be destroyed. Your exasperation at their choice to remain asleep will only make them want to listen to you less.
Every time you see a post that makes your blood boil, dont respond, dont try to think up arguments to use against it, just move on and hope that circumstance will change their minds because mere words never will.
Now I didnt read your post you deleted and I may be just talking out of my ass and you know this already but there my idea of trying to help at least.
What really got me pissed was how it was affecting me, I was just thinking deeper into it. Most of my friends hate this situation too, but I'm not sure if they've thought about the sociological implications as much as I have, and I'm afraid of trying to talk to them about it. As I've said before, this has basically caused a recrudescence of angsty teenage me. The post I deleted was just me screeching about an isolated reddit comment.
EDIT: On second thought, I imagine a bunch of them have thought the exact same things as me and are keeping it to themselves as well. Okay, time to stop shitting up the thread with my angst.
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According to this data scientist at MIT, the organisation that provides most of the public-facing Wu Flu modelling (IHME) doesn't even talk to other scientists in the field. The media's going to run the medical establishment's credibility into the dirt by reporting the projections of the one group that tries the hardest to take the spotlight, at the expense of its own reliability, because journos are too lazy to put effort into finding any sources that aren't throwing themselves at them.
The thread:https://twitter.com/youyanggu/status/1274792492588810240
The thread:https://twitter.com/youyanggu/status/1274792492588810240
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"Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, they tear you."
Matthew 7:6
I've given up trying to convince my family and friends (at least, those who drink the Kool Aid) about the destruction of society that this virus has wrought. For F's sake, one of my cousins, who is a left-of-AOC essjaydubya wrote this in her graduation announcement (what you are about to read is an exact quote): "In March of this year, I was invited by NPR's All Things Considered to discuss my reporting on DC's LGBT community in the wake of coronavirus lockdowns throughout the city. My hope is that my work makes a lasting difference to those who need it the most."
While Jesus in that Bible verse is talking about Gospel truth, it can apply to pretty much anything that is true but difficult for the unconverted to believe. In your case as in mine, all you can do is DISENGAGE. I think in fighting harder than you need to in order to make others see the truth, you're losing what little sanity you have left. Another important thing is that if you have any likeminded friends (i.e. not falling for VirusHype) support them in any way you can--another person who isn't insane is, to them, probably more valuable than 200 stacks of toilet paper.
I've also deleted my Facebook and Instagram accounts, giving people who want to contact me a 2 day grace period to figure out how to do so. Anyone who didn't reach out doesn't matter.
Also, push the limits of bullshit rules. Use the ADA card that I've been pimping, and if it works, great! If it doesn't, just walk away and don't cause any drama.
DubbleBubble
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Americans have this weird reverse psychology thing going on. If the government tells them to do or not do something, they get this gut reaction to do the exact opposite because FREEDOM, GEORGE WASHINGTON SAID FUCK YOOOOU!
At first its funny, then it just gets sad and tragic.
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I've been a mixture of fascinated and horrified at the total abandonment of sensibility, risk assessment, and any ability to connect a relatively short list of facts The Virus (tm) has caused. I mean, as far as I can tell, this thing kills grannies and fatties. Any death outside those two categories, again from what I've seen both in reporting and personally, seems to be rare enough to be statistical outliers. Not impossible, but then again even bad enough diarrhea without proper hydration can take someone out.
I look at this and think, gee, that seems to be pretty simple. Shut the old folks' homes and caution the hambeasts to order their feeding troughs in for a few weeks. People are going to die, but death from communicable disease up to a point is kind of an unspoken collective agreement we've come to. It's unfortunate, and you can't save 'em all, and there are absolutely diminishing returns on structuring society around putting risky cohorts in bubbles.
And yet we have this rank retardation everywhere you look. You've got people freaking out that we need to test everyone ASAP. Why? Are we talking about those Chinese tests with an 80% false positive/negative rate? That's voodoo. With a rate like that you're more likely to determine your Corona-chan status with your fucking horoscope. You've got Karens 100% positive that anyone who lets their kids out in a park is trying to MURDER people. Murder who? The kids who statistically have zero risk of death from this disease that has no symptoms in a large portion of cases? Doctors declaring that it affects the entire body: it made some old people delirious! It's given these two fat guys heart problems! Wait, are you shitting me? You have medical degrees! You don't think someone with advanced age and breathing troubles could possibly have episodes of delirium from severe breathing trouble unless a virus has directly attacked their brains? Are you telling me that the morbidly obese must have developed heart troubles from The Virus attacking organs and it couldn't have been anything else? I've even seen claims that it has "long-term" health effects? Fucking FOUR MONTHS isn't a longitudinal study. Medical doctors can't be this stupid en masse, can they?
As funny as the New World Order conspiracies have been over this, I'm just amazed by this deranged mass hysteria that causes people to believe some frankly supernatural things about a fucking mundane virus. It could MUTATE and give us all symptoms, so we'd better make extra sure this one doesn't spread! What? This isn't Plague Incorporated, viruses don't have magical hivemind mutation strategies that take them from a bad coof to organ failure. I had coworkers blabbering on the other day about how "foolish" they think the reopening strategies are (insert French Noblewoman "just stay inside, the earth is healing, you want to kill people for a haircut" meme here) because we don't have The Data. We need to assess our risk with the information available to us.
I found myself aaaaaalmost agreeing with them, and then in the very next goddamn sentence, it was right back to "Anyone going outside is an IDIOT who DOESN'T CARE about peoples' LIIIIIVES". I thought we were talking about assessing risks and coming to conclusions based on available data. Oh right, anyone who concludes differently from lefties is a violent hateful monster. Not a person with brain cells using their risk assessment capabilities.
I look at this and think, gee, that seems to be pretty simple. Shut the old folks' homes and caution the hambeasts to order their feeding troughs in for a few weeks. People are going to die, but death from communicable disease up to a point is kind of an unspoken collective agreement we've come to. It's unfortunate, and you can't save 'em all, and there are absolutely diminishing returns on structuring society around putting risky cohorts in bubbles.
And yet we have this rank retardation everywhere you look. You've got people freaking out that we need to test everyone ASAP. Why? Are we talking about those Chinese tests with an 80% false positive/negative rate? That's voodoo. With a rate like that you're more likely to determine your Corona-chan status with your fucking horoscope. You've got Karens 100% positive that anyone who lets their kids out in a park is trying to MURDER people. Murder who? The kids who statistically have zero risk of death from this disease that has no symptoms in a large portion of cases? Doctors declaring that it affects the entire body: it made some old people delirious! It's given these two fat guys heart problems! Wait, are you shitting me? You have medical degrees! You don't think someone with advanced age and breathing troubles could possibly have episodes of delirium from severe breathing trouble unless a virus has directly attacked their brains? Are you telling me that the morbidly obese must have developed heart troubles from The Virus attacking organs and it couldn't have been anything else? I've even seen claims that it has "long-term" health effects? Fucking FOUR MONTHS isn't a longitudinal study. Medical doctors can't be this stupid en masse, can they?
As funny as the New World Order conspiracies have been over this, I'm just amazed by this deranged mass hysteria that causes people to believe some frankly supernatural things about a fucking mundane virus. It could MUTATE and give us all symptoms, so we'd better make extra sure this one doesn't spread! What? This isn't Plague Incorporated, viruses don't have magical hivemind mutation strategies that take them from a bad coof to organ failure. I had coworkers blabbering on the other day about how "foolish" they think the reopening strategies are (insert French Noblewoman "just stay inside, the earth is healing, you want to kill people for a haircut" meme here) because we don't have The Data. We need to assess our risk with the information available to us.
I found myself aaaaaalmost agreeing with them, and then in the very next goddamn sentence, it was right back to "Anyone going outside is an IDIOT who DOESN'T CARE about peoples' LIIIIIVES". I thought we were talking about assessing risks and coming to conclusions based on available data. Oh right, anyone who concludes differently from lefties is a violent hateful monster. Not a person with brain cells using their risk assessment capabilities.
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We have zero active cases here and there have been like three new cases since April, I think. We banned gatherings of more than ten people, put non-legally binding social distancing guidelines in place and closed things like dentists and barbers. We had a spike from a funeral early on and at one point had the second highest number of cases per capita in Canada. Masks are recommended, but nobody wears them. We never closed electronic stores, dollar stores, hardware stores, grocery stores or department stores. You could walk into a Wal-Mart and buy video games and toys the entire time. Restaurants closed their seating areas, but have been open the entire time for takeout. It's abundantly clear to me at this point that in low-density areas banning big gatherings and putting general guidelines in place and reducing commerical business capacity is enough to get this thing under control. Anyone who is trying to tell you any different is wrong or lying to you.
I can't for big cities, but I hate them anyway.
I think my province would be considered one of the most Podunk, flyover, rural places in North America and every town or city here with a population of more than 2,000-3,000 has at least a contactless pickup option, usually two because there's usually a Loblaws and a Wal-Mart in towns that size here. I think it's pretty safe to say most rural areas are covered. If you live in a town of 200 you might have to drive an hour, for contactless pickup.
If I could wax philosophical for a moment...
Get out of the city. Would you rather live under a boot, be in a position where you and your spouse have to work, your kids are raised by half retarded day care workers and have more money of imaginary value printed by the Federal Reserve or would you rather live somewhere where 40-50K a year is just barely enough to own a small house with a big yard and let your wife stay home with a couple of kids and where because of the lack of density can still take your kids to these big empty beaches and big empty fields and stuff as I've been doing the whole time? I'm not saying everything is perfect, but this whole situation has definitely highlighted the practical upshot of my choice to remain in my province as opposed to moving away for higher paying work.
All those people in the city? The danger hairs? All those people scared of their own shadow? The politicians? The academics? etc Fuck 'em. Just peace out. You could be relaxing on the edge of a river catching trout right now with no one around for a mile. You've been tricked into thinking you're meant to find a meaningful career to build your life around instead of viewing work as something you do just to get by to do the shit you actually enjoy, because when your life is built around the workplace and career it increases your economic output and our corporate and political overlords can milk more wealth out of your teats. It's all a lie. Your career doesn't matter.
In other words listen to this guy:
I know it's harder to move to a place like this from the city than it is to just be born here and stay here.
Yes! I deleted my social media accounts back in 2012 and basically said anyone not will to text, call or email isn't really my friend. I was 28 at the time. It's been eight years. The world kept turning. I still get invited to weddings and parties. People still came to my wedding. All it does is collect data on you an cause anxiety and depression to the point of mental illness.
I can't for big cities, but I hate them anyway.
I think my province would be considered one of the most Podunk, flyover, rural places in North America and every town or city here with a population of more than 2,000-3,000 has at least a contactless pickup option, usually two because there's usually a Loblaws and a Wal-Mart in towns that size here. I think it's pretty safe to say most rural areas are covered. If you live in a town of 200 you might have to drive an hour, for contactless pickup.
If I could wax philosophical for a moment...
Get out of the city. Would you rather live under a boot, be in a position where you and your spouse have to work, your kids are raised by half retarded day care workers and have more money of imaginary value printed by the Federal Reserve or would you rather live somewhere where 40-50K a year is just barely enough to own a small house with a big yard and let your wife stay home with a couple of kids and where because of the lack of density can still take your kids to these big empty beaches and big empty fields and stuff as I've been doing the whole time? I'm not saying everything is perfect, but this whole situation has definitely highlighted the practical upshot of my choice to remain in my province as opposed to moving away for higher paying work.
All those people in the city? The danger hairs? All those people scared of their own shadow? The politicians? The academics? etc Fuck 'em. Just peace out. You could be relaxing on the edge of a river catching trout right now with no one around for a mile. You've been tricked into thinking you're meant to find a meaningful career to build your life around instead of viewing work as something you do just to get by to do the shit you actually enjoy, because when your life is built around the workplace and career it increases your economic output and our corporate and political overlords can milk more wealth out of your teats. It's all a lie. Your career doesn't matter.
In other words listen to this guy:
I know it's harder to move to a place like this from the city than it is to just be born here and stay here.
Yes! I deleted my social media accounts back in 2012 and basically said anyone not will to text, call or email isn't really my friend. I was 28 at the time. It's been eight years. The world kept turning. I still get invited to weddings and parties. People still came to my wedding. All it does is collect data on you an cause anxiety and depression to the point of mental illness.
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Why? My two in-person classes got moved to online which I'm bummed about but like... I don't care. I'll miss the socialization and getting out but I want that bachelor's degree 10 times more. I'm not fucking up my schedule because if anything, I doubled my financial aid (and got some free $$$ from CARES) and dropping classes walks back on everything I earned. To make up for it, I'm just gonna zip up to the library once a week and do class there.
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I get that, but not using this period to get ahead and stay ahead seems like an emotionally charged decision that'll come back to bite you in the ass - cutting off your own nose to spite your face.
Plus, you're a CS major. You are the absolute best case to juxtapose to online classes, my classes went just fine if not maybe including a little more Path of Exile.
Not sure how bad dropping my math major is going to be, but I could always get it later on through a part-time continuing education program. I just need five more CS classes so I can finish that major alone in one semester.
You have no idea how much traditional paper-based tests are weighted in most CS classes; typically it's 60-80%.
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I am just waiting for the shut downs in fall that will most likely take place due to mass hysteria.
I will be going into Sophmore year of College for Computer Science, and honestly, I actually want to be at home for online classes. I have some hard math classes I have to complete and being at home made me better at them, so I kinda want one more go. The school also made two classes not effect GPA last time, so I want to get it again for Math.
I will be going into Sophmore year of College for Computer Science, and honestly, I actually want to be at home for online classes. I have some hard math classes I have to complete and being at home made me better at them, so I kinda want one more go. The school also made two classes not effect GPA last time, so I want to get it again for Math.
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Maybe he should move to South America, he seems to have a fanbase there.
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Dude, I miss being able to go into shops so much... Walmart is junk, Best Buy is by appointment only... Target is mostly out of anything good. The local antique store reopened and it was like Christmas. I really want to buy a new skateboard, but I'm having trouble finding a place where I can go in and try one out.
In my area, I don't see very many people wearing masks outside of stores, but I bounced over to Riverside the other day for an especially good hiking trail and it was 50/50 masks *on the trail* - abet it was a crowded trail but there was tons of windflow soooooo... I think most people are just done with all the fuss and stupid. Also, there were only 400-and-something deaths in the entire US yesterday. The numbers continue to go down even though the news keeps screaming. So there's less and less chance that you'd know someone who has died to keep you scared.
Okay, some closure to my day-long sperging:
I couldn't hold it in anymore and ended up texting one of my closer friends—who was also anti-lockdown from the beginning—about my fears of the "new normal". He said that it's basically the same deal as the original doomer theories. I said that there's already a lot more tangible progress toward that, but he rebutted saying that it took less than two months for lockdown protests to become widespread, and there's no way they're going to just stop pushing back. That actually reassured me a bit.
TL;DR: finally talked to an IRL friend about my fears, made me feel better.
I couldn't hold it in anymore and ended up texting one of my closer friends—who was also anti-lockdown from the beginning—about my fears of the "new normal". He said that it's basically the same deal as the original doomer theories. I said that there's already a lot more tangible progress toward that, but he rebutted saying that it took less than two months for lockdown protests to become widespread, and there's no way they're going to just stop pushing back. That actually reassured me a bit.
TL;DR: finally talked to an IRL friend about my fears, made me feel better.
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thing about reported numbers.. theyre just a small glance into the actual, real numbers. Especially with Americans. How many are terrified of medical debt and just keep on keeping on even with all the symptoms, or crawl into their bed to die and be found days/weeks later after you cant confirm covid. Even in places with proper healthcare most people want to stay away from hospitals on the chance they dont have it, because thats a good way to get it. You can multiply those numbers a few times, anywhere to get something closer to real.
Look going outside is fine it's not the apocalypse but if you think only 400 people died because thats what the numbers say...
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If we go another week or so without a major spike in deaths, I’ll probably agree pretty strongly that the threat is still receding. For now, we don’t know for sure that the new spike in cases won’t result in a proportional increase in deaths.
Ultimately if there is one prevailing theme here, it is that of uncertainty. We still don’t know for certain how deadly the latest spike in infections is going to be, so leaders are erring on the side of overreaction. I don’t like it one bit, but I can see the angle.
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