Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Stilgar of Troon]

@BoxerShorts47

I have a serious question to ask you.

What got you into far-right ideology? What was the moment that made you decide to become an avowed White Nationalist?

I'm guessing you decided to randomly type "white roots funny" into a Google search when you were bored in middle school study hall?

Waking up in an alley after getting vigorously donged into unconsciousness for the nth time, he decided he wanted to be the pitcher for once, instead of an all-star, Hall of Fame catcher.
All the buff white Chads who ravaged his poor Flip ringpiece were hardcore wignats, judging by what they grunted into his ears during coitus, so his path was clear: To become the pitcher, he must first become the wignat.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Welcome back! Is this your third triumphant return after totally leaving for reals?

Have you not listened to Peter Brimelow? If you enact eVerify to punish employees that hire illegals, end DACA, end welfare for illegals and enforce border laws, most will self deport. Legal immigrants post 1965 can be sent back home. You honestly think most of these people will fight to the death to stay in a nation that doesn't want them? No.

If you believe this, then why are you insisting on forced deportation of all non-whites if you think they're all going to self deport? BTW, ask the pre-WW2 Nazis how well that worked. They did a lot of things to try and drive the Jews out of Germany, including taking tens of thousands of them to the Polish border and dumping them there. While many Jews fled, there were always plenty who wouldn't or couldn't get out.

The fascists worked with the capitalists in Germany. The Nazis protected big business from the Communist. We have an irony here. Because of woke capitalism we're more "socialist/progressive" than actual Fascists 100 years ago.

Okay. And? Why do you think this is a winning argument? The modern woke socialist is far too into anti-white racial politics to be swayed by this argument, and a lot of right wingers hate socialism. Nobody really gives a shit that you're the real socialists n' sheeiiit. Nobody gave a shit when Richard Spencer tried to couple somewhat leftist economics with white racism either.

Of course freedom of speech means freedom from consequences. "You're free to say whatever you want in Soviet Russia but that doesn't mean you're freed from Stalin's consequences." If you're being punished for speech that means your speech is criminalized and you don't have real free speech.

This may be the first argument you've made that's not 100% retarded. Not necessarily that freedom of speech should be 100% free from consequences. For instance, you should definitely not be allowed to become a junior high school teacher because of your firm pro-twelve-year-old-fucking opinions. However, corporations are increasingly becoming an omnipresent propaganda tool of the oligarchy, that squeezes out dissenting opinions based more on what the wealthy elites consider acceptable than whether something actually has popular support or not.

So there's the question of who controls the consequences in our society and how severe we're willing to let those consequences get before we're living in a de facto dictatorship. If it's a Microsoft/Disney/Google alliance that's sentencing you to a McGulag to do slave labor for the rest of your life because your wrongthink has wrecked your social credit score, is it somehow better than a president for life throwing you in a normal gulag and cutting out the social credit score middle man? Daring to speak out still ruins your life, and not because the general public hates your opinion, but because powerful oligarchs do. It's a problem, and coming up with a solution is difficult. Societal power tends to concentrate over time and preventing that is not easy to do. The founding fathers put great effort into it, and we're still in the mess we are today.

But how are you going to defend freedom of speech when you've flat out said earlier in this thread that you don't believe in individual rights? Arguing freedom of speech when you're a totalitarian is unbelievably disingenuous. You're not actually going to fix this problem at all if you somehow become King of America. You're going to make it a lot worse and imprison, execute, or exile everyone who disagrees with you.

The more literate FBI agent must be posting now. The spelling and grammar is better and the arguments are more coherent.

 

[Heckler1]

@BoxerShorts47 Why are you so afraid of girls?

 

[Drain Todger]

This is still going? Holy shit. I thought he’d donned his spandex and cape and was off to save the white race from total destruction, but apparently, he’s still trying to flex the microscopic morsel of meat in his head on some Kiwis.

Pick up any debating skills, lately, @BoxerShorts47? Have you given speeches at Oxford and Yale? Have you gone to a BLM rally with a megaphone while wearing a Klan hood? Have you managed to exhume Norm Mailer and Gore Vidal’s corpses and suck all the mung out of their asses to steal their debating powers? Tsk, tsk. You’re slacking. Nobody likes a slacker.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Welcome back! Is this your third triumphant return after totally leaving for reals?


If you believe this, then why are you insisting on forced deportation of all non-whites if you think they're all going to self deport? BTW, ask the pre-WW2 Nazis how well that worked. They did a lot of things to try and drive the Jews out of Germany, including taking tens of thousands of them to the Polish border and dumping them there. While many Jews fled, there were always plenty who wouldn't or couldn't get out.


Okay. And? Why do you think this is a winning argument? The modern woke socialist is far too into anti-white racial politics to be swayed by this argument, and a lot of right wingers hate socialism. Nobody really gives a shit that you're the real socialists n' sheeiiit. Nobody gave a shit when Richard Spencer tried to couple somewhat leftist economics with white racism either.


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This may be the first argument you've made that's not 100% retarded. Not necessarily that freedom of speech should be 100% free from consequences. For instance, you should definitely not be allowed to become a junior high school teacher because of your firm pro-twelve-year-old-fucking opinions. However, corporations are increasingly becoming an omnipresent propaganda tool of the oligarchy, that squeezes out dissenting opinions based more on what the wealthy elites consider acceptable than whether something actually has popular support or not.

So there's the question of who controls the consequences in our society and how severe we're willing to let those consequences get before we're living in a de facto dictatorship. If it's a Microsoft/Disney/Google alliance that's sentencing you to a McGulag to do slave labor for the rest of your life because your wrongthink has wrecked your social credit score, is it somehow better than a president for life throwing you in a normal gulag and cutting out the social credit score middle man? Daring to speak out still ruins your life, and not because the general public hates your opinion, but because powerful oligarchs do. It's a problem, and coming up with a solution is difficult. Societal power tends to concentrate over time and preventing that is not easy to do. The founding fathers put great effort into it, and we're still in the mess we are today.

But how are you going to defend freedom of speech when you've flat out said earlier in this thread that you don't believe in individual rights? Arguing freedom of speech when you're a totalitarian is unbelievably disingenuous. You're not actually going to fix this problem at all if you somehow become King of America. You're going to make it a lot worse and imprison, execute, or exile everyone who disagrees with you.

The more literate FBI agent must be posting now. The spelling and grammar is better and the arguments are more coherent.

Is this political conflict win-win? Can both SJWs/Liberals and Conservatives win?

 

[Popper Whiting]

Is this political conflict win-win? Can both SJWs/Liberals and Conservatives win?

In the case of a win/win for conservatives and liberals, you still lose. Because you're a chomo who wants a new Hitler who'd make it legal for you to cruise pre-schools for sex.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Is this political conflict win-win? Can both SJWs/Liberals and Conservatives win?

When did I ever say I believe in a win-win solution? I certainly don't consider the current slide into lawless anti-white corporate Kafkaesque dystopia to be a win for me, nor do I believe that people like the CHAZinites who want it are willing to compromise. So clearly someone has to lose. I just don't consider a wignat dictatorship where girls are property and start getting fucked by grown men as soon as they start their periods, and where I'll be carted off to a camp if I object to any of this for being a "liberal" to be a win for me either.

You don't know me or my family situation. You don't know if I have young daughters who I don't fancy dating grown incels, or if I have a wife or girlfriend who's not pure white ethnostate material or whether I'm not pure white ethnostate material myself. Le 56% meme is a parody of a common American phenomenon, after all.

Therefore, a win for me might necessitate a loss for both you and the Antifa crowd. That's the thing, There aren't just two solutions. There are actually an infinite number of solutions, and whichever one can rally the most popular support, or at least enough popular support to fight for and achieve it, is the one that matters.

Your solution isn't one that can rally that popular support. The alt right tried to sell a more reasonable (relatively) version of it and failed miserably. Your version, which is extreme even by alt right standards, has a snowball's chance in hell.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

When did I ever say I believe in a win-win solution? I certainly don't consider the current slide into lawless anti-white corporate Kafkaesque dystopia to be a win for me, nor do I believe that people like the CHAZinites who want it are willing to compromise. So clearly someone has to lose. I just don't consider a wignat dictatorship where girls are property and start getting fucked by grown men as soon as they start their periods, and where I'll be carted off to a camp if I object to any of this for being a "liberal" to be a win for me either.

You don't know me or my family situation. You don't know if I have young daughters who I don't fancy dating grown incels, or if I have a wife or girlfriend who's not pure white ethnostate material or whether I'm not pure white ethnostate material myself. Le 56% meme is a parody of a common American phenomenon, after all.

Therefore, a win for me might necessitate a loss for both you and the Antifa crowd. That's the thing, There aren't just two solutions. There are actually an infinite number of solutions, and whichever one can rally the most popular support, or at least enough popular support to fight for and achieve it, is the one that matters.

Your solution isn't one that can rally that popular support. The alt right tried to sell a more reasonable (relatively) version of it and failed miserably. Your version, which is extreme even by alt right standards, has a snowball's chance in hell.

1. Disinformation. Lowering age of consent will create more 14-18 w/ 18-22 yr old relationships similar to this: https://twitter.com/mustachetoilet/status/1272176595235569667 You're being paranoid over normal human relationships that were common for all of human history and are still frequent today: "omg dude, she told me she was. 18. How was I supposed to know." Even today Anna Nicole Smith relationships are very rare 89 @ 27.

2. Do you acknowledge that white people have a right to white communities? That those of us that are pure white or even mixed (Nick Fuentes), have a right to preserve the white genome and/or not dilute it even further?

3. Thanks. It's nice to know that I've surpassed the alt-right. I'm edge even by alt-right or 2020 standards. That means I am pushing that overton window.

4. Do you acknowledge that most non-whites will be more happier in their home nations? That many non whites or mixed kids have identity issues and often they betray the white side? (.e.g Jessie Smollett, Bubba Wallace, Kirkpatrick or even Obama) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgUzVQw9gbM

 

[Just A Butt]

1. Disinformation. Lowering age of consent will create more 14-18 w/ 18-22 yr old relationships similar to this: https://twitter.com/mustachetoilet/status/1272176595235569667 You're being paranoid over normal human relationships that were common for all of human history and are still frequent today: "omg dude, she told me she was. 18. How was I supposed to know." Even today Anna Nicole Smith relationships are very rare 89 @ 27.

2. Do you acknowledge that white people have a right to white communities? That those of us that are pure white or even mixed (Nick Fuentes), have a right to preserve the white genome and/or not dilute it even further?

3. Thanks. It's nice to know that I've surpassed the alt-right. I'm edge even by alt-right or 2020 standards. That means I am pushing that overton window.

4. Do you acknowledge that most non-whites will be more happier in their home nations? That many non whites or mixed kids have identity issues and often they betray the white side? (.e.g Jessie Smollett, Bubba Wallace, Kirkpatrick or even Obama) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgUzVQw9gbM

Glad to see that nothing has changed. Keep at it, you beautiful retard.

 

[Popper Whiting]

3. Thanks. It's nice to know that I've surpassed the alt-right. I'm edge even by alt-right or 2020 standards. That means I am pushing that overton window.

Pushing the overton window, chomo please, stop kidding yourself! The only thing you'd push is a 10 year old's shit in if their parents didn't keep a close eye on them.

 

[The Spice boi]

He's back. Question is, do I dare jump into the fray again?

I'm a different man now. This thread still haunts me

 

[Karl der Grosse]

"The things I saw in that thread changed me. They stay with me now. An obsession with pinoy penises, the haunting allure of 12-year old white girls (yes/no). Am I doomed to relive the loop of dumb post-shit post? I must break the chain somehow, lest I spend years alone in my room arguing with strangers about phones and vidya gaemes. Alas for the tendies my mother made me! Weep for the Flip virgin, for his rage knows no bounds! Cry not for me, my brain is already dead."

 

[No. 7 cat]

I thought Boxer was the above for a bit. Seems he's just another unusual individual. He's pretty much close to a proper lolcow.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

@BoxerShorts47 Why are you so afraid of girls?

Because his fat momma told him a girl's vagoo is dirty and sinful and only her "holy bunghole" could save him from hellfire and damnation.

Bonus Boxerfact: He carries a sockful of sand at all times, just in case his mom wants round two and her Saurons Eye hasn't shrunk back down. Gotta maintain that grip; if he doesn't clap her cheeks like she wants, he might have to move out of her basement or even get a job.

 

[Stardust]

He's back. Question is, do I dare jump into the fray again?

I'm a different man now. This thread still haunts me

We all are.

The First Boxer War was horrifying; the burning piles of strawmans, hearing the agony of a disappointed mother, smelling the chicken tendies, discovering the Faggotbunker. It changes you, but it shall not break you. Last time, we didn't finish the job. This time, we end it.

Or, we tear those rectum stitches and get our lulz on.

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

Did @BoxerShorts47 own the libs irl during his recess from this thread?

Actual question. You keep saying your age of consent reform will be more for mostly equally aged people. Like your example of some 19 year old who dated a 17 year old and got criticized for it. Along with your psuedo science bullshit about how if women have sex sooner they'll mentally mature faster then 25. How does your reform stop a 30 year old from dating a 14 year old, or is that not a problem to you?

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

Honestly, I'm just surprised he's still going

 

[The Last Stand]

@BoxerShorts47

What's your opinion on biracial individuals?

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Like his mother before me, I hope he's got the stamina for another go round.
Come on, lads, if we work hard and persevere, there'll be friend chicken for everyone once the Flip Menace is repulsed; this will all be over by Christmas.

 

[Draza]

Honestly, I'm just surprised he's still going

When you have to save the White race, you have to keep going even when you make an ass out of yourself in the process.