Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Dolphin Lundgren]

Here in the midwest USA I went to Aldi to gather vital soda and candy supplies and about 20% of shoppers were wearing masks, otherwise there wasn't any differences than before the Shanghai Sniffles invaded.

I'm half-watching a livestream of protests on woke dot net and honestly. If that shit is being allowed then nearly every other summer gathering should be allowed and damn the consequences.... unless the protests are being allowed in order to Darwin-ize certain idiots right out of the gene pool. I don't know. Ignore me.

Every time I see a person hanging around an aisle without a mask I stay far away from them while still wearing my mask. One of the times I went to a store some fucker was hanging around the only aisle I intended to go in, without a mask while coughing. I stayed far away from him. Like I said in my previous post since my area has the rule in, it's weird seeing people without masks and they stand out.

 

[I can't imagine]

So, for people who live in areas where masks are mandated by the state/county, how is that going for you? Is everyone really being forced to wear the mask? The first day of the mandate, all the stores looked roughly the same. But two days later, I noticed stores in plazas putting on a show of solidarity and force. They all had the exact same sign out front (hand written on a white board) saying they would turn anyone away without a face mask, and had a hovering worker outside to enforce (don't envy that person). Even my favorite liquor store, which hasn't done much this entire time, jumped in on the fun. However, I noticed stores that stand alone (have their own parking lot, not attached to anything), had much less enforcement and compliance. Kroger gives the least shit, they couldn't possibly try any less. I mostly shop there.

The stores need to band together to enforce this, because the police already said they ain't touching this with a 5 ft pole. Everyone already fucking hates the cops, the last thing they need is video of them beating some black guy for not masking up in Safeway. WA really tried to make it a misdemeanor, and impose a fine on people. But there is some debate over whether the governor has the ability to pass laws like that. It's all sketchy as hell, and I feel bad for the minimum wage workers who have to enforce the state's will. They don't get paid enough to do that. At the same time, I'm hoping for some chimp out videos.

I work at a grocery store in a state with a mandatory mask order in place. We haven't been directed to say anything at my level (area manager), and I haven't been directed to tell my employees to say anything, either. I think the only people directed to say anything are the people at the door. I'm honestly not too sure how aggressively we're enforcing things; it's only been a couple days and I haven't particularly noticed people not wearing masks in the store, so I assume we must be saying something at the door.

I dunno. I highly doubt our store manager is interested in having one of our people get assaulted over this, but they'll obviously still wanna comply with what the state wants. Nobody's flipped out on anyone yet, so...fingers crossed, I guess?

 

[FuckedUp]

Every time I see a person hanging around an aisle without a mask I stay far away from them while still wearing my mask. One of the times I went to a store some fucker was hanging around the only aisle I intended to go in, without a mask while coughing. I stayed far away from him. Like I said in my previous post since my area has the rule in, it's weird seeing people without masks and they stand out.

Are you or is anyone you live with immunocompromised? If not, it's actually selfish for you to avoid getting it because you have an infinitesimally low chance of dying from it and are avoiding contributing to herd immunity.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

Are you or is anyone you live with immunocompromised? If not, it's actually selfish for you to avoid getting it because you have an infinitesimally low chance of dying from it and are avoiding contributing to herd immunity.

Yes.

 

[FuckedUp]

Yes.

Okay, never mind.

 

[JosephStalin]

Bitch, bitch, bitch..."they" are bitching because people went out and spread the ChiCom Flu. NFG. NFG whatsoever. Since "they" blessed "protesters" running all over the place sans mask and social distancing, but persecuted law-abiding people who just want to go to church and worship, they can go fuck themselves. Yeah, good fucking luck trying to put people under house arrest again. Government has lost all credibility. Totally fucked it up. Way to go, dunces! The smart people have factored the ChiCom Flu into their lives. Very small chance of catching it, even smaller chance for most people of dying from it. Blow me, Newsom. Recall this fuck.

‘Our Luck May Have Run Out’: California’s Case Count Explodes

http://archive.vn/AkXC6

 

[Ghost In The Rain]

I mean if a majority of Americans are mistrustful of the government and refusing to follow orders they feel violate their freedoms, then I would argue its actually a success of the education system.

5 weeks ago all of the "public health experts" were saying that people who go out into crowded public spaces should be shamed. Then some guy ODed on fentanyl. So 4 weeks ago all of the "public health experts" were saying that people who DON'T go out into public crowded public spaces should be shamed. There were no study results or anything of the like to significantly change the scientific knowledge of the disease at that time.

So 2 possibilities exist. Either the disease is as dire of a threat as it was in May and the 'experts' want the mobs of liberals to spread it and die due to non-scientific reasons, or the disease is not a significant threat and the shutdowns and other measures were unnecessary but insisted upon due to non-scientific reasons.

In either case, it is clear that the public health experts, who derive their authority over the populace via the population's faith in expert-pushed science and academia are not acting in accordance with actual sound science. Therefore, there is no reason for the public to have any faith in those experts, and the public's faith in science and academia gets to be significantly eroded for entirely justified reasons. The american spirit of mistrust in the government and media and all of that only amplifies the effect.

Science does not play politics. When the 'experts' and the 'scientists' who derive all of their value from science decide to play politics, they inflict the population's distrust of politicians onto science. It isn't like this is the first case either, this corruption has been spreading for a long time and is the reason why so much anti-mainstream-science rhetoric exists in the first place. By and large most of the skeptics do believe in the core tenets of the scientific method, in much the same way Martin Luther was a christian who believed in the J-man and his dad. The problem is that all of the big media experts and scientists and even many scientific journals nowadays are giving the world more than enough complaints to write down and nail them to the doors of our local laboratory.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

Bitch, bitch, bitch..."they" are bitching because people went out and spread the ChiCom Flu. NFG. NFG whatsoever. Since "they" blessed "protesters" running all over the place sans mask and social distancing, but persecuted law-abiding people who just want to go to church and worship, they can go fuck themselves. Yeah, good fucking luck trying to put people under house arrest again. Government has lost all credibility. Totally fucked it up. Way to go, dunces! The smart people have factored the ChiCom Flu into their lives. Very small chance of catching it, even smaller chance for most people of dying from it. Blow me, Newsom. Recall this fuck.

‘Our Luck May Have Run Out’: California’s Case Count Explodes

http://archive.vn/AkXC6

Los Angeles is known for making bad choices. If the riots and looting from 1992 to weeks ago wasn't proof enough.

 

[DubbleBubble]

It's fun to just skim over this thread every now and then. Only Americans can make a public health and safety crisis into a political one. It's been a wild ride watching everything from the democrats/republicans to the communists or the jews get blamed while they riot and generally infect the fuck out of each other because Freedom.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

Somebody I hung out with for a couple hours on Sunday has tested positive for waflu. So I figured I'd check out the lowdown on CA's much-hyped free testing. It turns out, one local test places won't test without symptoms, the other is booked up for at least a week, and my insurance won't cover private testing until I'm actually sick. I'm glad I'm working from home and don't have to worry about infecting coworkers.

Edit: After trying repeated for about 24 hours, I have wrangled a test. It'll be in two days. I'm debating the risk/reward of going shopping between now and then, since I'm out of food. On a tangentially related note, I picked an insurance company nurse's brain on antibody tests (like, do we know anything after three months of this) and she said antibody tests are 80% reliable, so take three and average them out.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Only Americans can make a public health and safety crisis into a political one.

It was only ever a Political one, The WHO completely fucked us by letting China hide the thing and let the Terrorists that we call the mainstream media whip everyone into a frenzy over something that nobody knew anything about because China was trying to save face.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

In either case, it is clear that the public health experts, who derive their authority over the populace via the population's faith in expert-pushed science and academia are not acting in accordance with actual sound science. Therefore, there is no reason for the public to have any faith in those experts, and the public's faith in science and academia gets to be significantly eroded for entirely justified reasons. The american spirit of mistrust in the government and media and all of that only amplifies the effect.

Oh absolutely. What's been pissing me off is the conflation of Public Health Official (re:Unelected Bureaucrat) with a practicing scientist. Sure the CDC and state agencies put out reports and academic papers, but people are taking the words of men and women appointed by politicians to run government agencies as if they are the holy gospel, as well as whichever "expert" the CNNBCABC journo crowd throws up there - meanwhile actual studies by academia (some of which are now passing the peer-review process) exist which are contradicting the words of said unelected bureaucrat "health officials" and journos with a med degree.

Its even more hypocritical, at least for the left, because Fauci is this infallible omniscient being with unquestionable authority on all things virus-related, while Aurelia Skipwith is a corrupt Trump-appointed partisan hack who cannot be trusted and everything the USFWS does under Skipwith is tainted with anti-science and therefore wrong.
I'm not even saying Fauci is wrong about most things (just questionable) or that I agree with all of Skipwith's leadership (I dont); just that its hypocritical that "Public Science Bureaucrat > Academic Study except when we don't like who appointed Public Science Bureaucrat".

It's fun to just skim over this thread every now and then. Only Americans can make a public health and safety crisis into a political one. It's been a wild ride watching everything from the democrats/republicans to the communists or the jews get blamed while they riot and generally infect the fuck out of each other because Freedom.

Good thinking, Citizen! Who needs "freedom" anyways?
+10 points to your Social Credit Score.
Now back to your pod.

 

[Coleslaw]

You should tell them you know they drank underage and see what they do

"It wasn't underage at the time"

 

[NoYinT76]

California is getting what it deserves. Apparently Newsom has no plan whatsoever to keep the state financially afloat (not that it was anyway) but would rather play dictator. So, enjoy the third world hell hole California!

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

California is getting what it deserves. Apparently Newsom has no plan whatsoever to keep the state financially afloat (not that it was anyway) but would rather play dictator. So, enjoy the third world hell hole California!

California went way downhill and third world-like years before this, to be honest. Especially Los Angeles.

 

[Male Idiot]

Hungary statistics:

Cases: 4155

Healed: 2692

Dead: 585

Population 9,773 Million. Total casaulities almost reach 0,006% of the population. STRONK!

 

[Full Race Replay]

Source:

https://www.facebook.com/jason.hubbard.10/posts/10222938646638563

(1) Jay Hubbard - There's an important difference between HAVING more…

archived 30 Jun 2020 21:30:40 UTC

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[JosephStalin]

A good one from Reason. Oh, just heard death toll from the ChiCom Flu is 127,000, or fewer than the 150,000 Americans who die every month from stroke, diabetes, accidents, falls, etc. , everything but cancer and heart disease. Some of these turds sure don't like it when you provide these numbers and put everything in perspective. Tends to cut the fearmongering off right at the knees.

Were COVID-19 Lockdowns Worth the Cost?

The evidence suggests Americans are right to wonder.

reason.com

http://archive.vn/oqXSs

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Quarantine in Peru ends today. State of Emergency in the country will follow in the next month, but we're finally free tomorrow, except for a few regions that are still in danger. Only a curfew will remain (from 10pm to 4am) and some limitations in certain activities will hold up until december.

I haven't written much about it since last time because I don't really want to think much of it. Situation is not well (I'm ok, btw), and we've already lost people close to us. Hospitals are overloaded with patients to the point non-covid patients are also dying because there is no doctors, bed, or anything for them (yes, I've seen cases like this). We've hit few records in S. America, Latin America, and World for spread of the virus and excess of deaths by month.

And before you blame this to the quarantine, it'sn ot. The quarantine was the right thing to do for a country like ours. What fucked us was the mishandling of it by a mediocre president and progressive advisers who wanted to beat the patriarchy rather than keep people safe.

Without any cynicism involved, my only advise for you, from a place that has seen the worst of covid, is wear a mask. Drop that "you can't tell me what to do, government!" act and actually wear one when you're outside. Don't do it for other people, do it for your own family. Would you allow any relative of yours to drink a glass of water with only one drop of poison even knowing that the chance of dying would be small? Because i wouldn't, I wouldn't take any risk. Don't take risks for your family either.

Now... to rebuild the country back to "not so bad".

 

[FuckedUp]

Would you allow any relative of yours to drink a glass of water with only one drop of poison even knowing that the chance of dying would be small?

If doing so averted untold government oppression, then gladly. I'd even drink it myself. I'd take a loaded shotgun and shoot myself directly in the forehead if it permanently ended all the clown world bullshit for everyone else.