Times when you have felt genuinely sorry for Chris

[Mongo0o]

Bob and Barb both loved Chris and would never intentionally manipulate or hurt him, but they were terrible parents. They didn't give him the mental help he needed for his autism, didn't teach him life skills, and didn't teach him how to properly interact with other people. They did teach him how to be hateful to other people though.

Barb has been a master emotional manipulator her entire life.

 

[Zooted]

Barb has been a master emotional manipulator her entire life.

Judging by Cole’s mentions of what barb is like, I think it’s extremely likely that she had a firm grip on Chris. Most anyone who has experience with very intentionally manipulative parents pick up on it easily. “Just bury me in what I’m wearing” Isn’t something that normal people say to their child

 

[littleomega]

It's a bit general, sure, but the large amount of control his parents hold/held over him, particularly the bits where his parents said they'd call the cops or lock him out of the house if he left.

 

[Totally Awesome]

Only when his dad died, but then i can't remember how he reacted.

I remember a bunch of people called Chris about it and he cried. They were recording the call but decided to not release it.

The call where you can overhear her essentially pitting Chris against his father was really uncomfortable for me to listen to... it's probably happened dozens of times behind closed doors.

Do you know where I can find this call? Are they any other calls where she acts manipulative?

 

[GherkinRealness]

I remember a bunch of people called Chris about it and he cried. They were recording the call but decided to not release it.

Do you know where I can find this call? Are they any other calls where she acts manipulative?

One of the kacey calls I believe. I don't recall which one

 

[Overcast]

Been revisiting Chris' life through the documentary videos and fuck I forgot about how much I felt second hand embarrassment and pity for him. Stuff like the Crazy Pacer story was kinda tough to swallow as you could tell something was very wrong with him, and yet he still tried to establish relationships in the only way he knew how.

I mean yeah, he was being creepy, was constantly in conflict with the authority figures, ect. But at the end of the day, Chris really desired companionship of some kind. Sure, it was mostly to have a new mommy kind of figure he could have sex with, but it still came from that basic instinctual desire to have a mate.

The saddest thing is, he had so many opportunities to change himself, to improve himself, to dig himself out of where he was, but he never took them. He kept following his delusions and pushing himself further and further into insanity.

There is of course Barb and Bob and the various figures in his life that fucked him over as well, but other people already went into detail about them.

 

[Berrakh]

The early days when he was just an intensely socially awkward autistic dweeb too naive to know what he was inviting. And especially since a lot of the early trolling was moralistic as fuck because he was "racist" and "sexist." You'd think being clearly unwell would give him a little bit of a pass. Yes he did do weird things irl but that's a local matter imo.
I guess Chris was the first guy who got cancelled?

 

[Pepito The Cat]

Well, this thread proposed a surprisingly hard question. I think I felt pity for Chris during several moments of his life (except the Liquid saga, that was lulz all the way) but every time I gave the slightest of dams, the dude relapsed into his shitty ways or did something stupid to make it worse. Then I realized that there are no cries for help in Chris' actions, he genuinely doesn't care or can't fathom what's wrong with his life. Even the most obtuse of individuals can realize a bad action leads to a shitty consequence... not Chris, tho. Cris keeps ramming that same brick wall over and over again, even when people tell him it's wrong, even when people purposely try to steer him out of it, even when someone sacrifice him/herself to make his life easier, he always goes back to the self destructive behavior.

So, yeah. I felt bad for him a lot of times until I realize the guy has no shame, no guilt, no sense of preservation and every time someone tries to help him, he takes it as charity or an opportunity to continue his fucked up ways. I don't feel pity or sad or anything anymore. I just sit back and enjoy the show.

 

[rigors]

I came across Chris back in the late 2000s/early 2010 and paid him no mind because from what I saw he was just a sped that was being picked on, unable to defend himself, and that isn't interesting to me.

I've become fully aware of him now and I feel sorry for him for 2 things: being born to Bob and Barb and the death of Patti.

He never had a chance. His parents were too old, redneck and proud to get him proper help and support. The first thing that was fuckery was allowing him to change his name because of a fucking robot bear. They should've been firm and told him no, your name is Christopher. Then their reluctance to get him proper support, insisting on mainstreaming in hopes that would make him more normal, when in fact it made him more isolated. I know a lot of people here think Bob did his best, but lest we forget his two older children wanted nothing to do with him and his daughter didn't even attend his funeral. Bob did seem like a worldly and interesting man, but doesn't seem like a good father. He just about kept Chris wrangled (as in not burning down the house) but failed to parent him. He wrote about all his dreams for Chris but did little to make them happen.

Patti's death just because I remember losing my childhood dog and it is painful.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

The first thing that was fuckery was allowing him to change his name because of a fucking robot bear. They should've been firm and told him no, your name is Christopher.

You're not wrong. That was the first event that went from a snowball to an avalanche of entitlement to Chris. Adding to that, Throughout Chris's life, he tried to be normal but failed because of his entitlement and the ego of Borb. Look at how many times they dropped the ball into Chris' teenage years; got a job at a fast food place, got fired for gross incompetence and ended up getting welfare. Went to college and instead of buckling down and doing his studies, Chris went ham in trying to find himself a girlfriend in the worst possible method and ended up being suspended. Chris couldn't do anything because he thought he didn't do anything wrong. What did borb do? Jack shit. And they knew about his Love Quest. Instead of getting his mind off of that and back to his studies, a number of years were wasted, and while Chris did get college degree, like his parents, he did jack shit with it, and started counting and spending his tardbux.

 

[rigors]

You're not wrong. That was the first event that went from a snowball to an avalanche of entitlement to Chris. Adding to that, Throughout Chris's life, he tried to be normal but failed because of his entitlement and the ego of Borb. Look at how many times they dropped the ball into Chris' teenage years; got a job at a fast food place, got fired for gross incompetence and ended up getting welfare. Went to college and instead of buckling down and doing his studies, Chris went ham in trying to find himself a girlfriend in the worst possible method and ended up being suspended. Chris couldn't do anything because he thought he didn't do anything wrong. What did borb do? Jack shit. And they knew about his Love Quest. Instead of getting his mind off of that and back to his studies, a number of years were wasted, and while Chris did get college degree, like his parents, he did jack shit with it, and started counting and spending his tardbux.

I agree with most of your post, but he didn't get a proper degree (BA, as the world sees it). He got an Associates Degree at most. It took him years to get it. He got a basic degree in drips and drabs and thinks that means something.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I agree with most of your post, but he didn't get a proper degree (BA, as the world sees it). He got an Associates Degree at most. It took him years to get it. He got a basic degree in drips and drabs and thinks that means something.

True, but Chris never did boast about it. His college years had a negative impact on him. You read about Chris boasting about how he got "Honor Roll" in high school and carried that with him until he graduated, not knowing what it actually meant and got average grades in HS. When you compare Chris' HS experience with college, Chris is going to to his high school experience cause he felt more care free, where as you can tell what happened to him in college. The only times he mentioned his CADD degree was when he was trying to justify himself landing a girlfriend. He never went into detail on which teacher impacted him, or what part he found interesting. It was all in passing.

 

[rigors]

True, but Chris never did boast about it. His college years had a negative impact on him. You read about Chris boasting about how he got "Honor Roll" in high school and carried that with him until he graduated, not knowing what it actually meant and got average grades in HS. When you compare Chris' HS experience with college, Chris is going to to his high school experience cause he felt more care free, where as you can tell what happened to him in college. The only times he mentioned his CADD degree was when he was trying to justify himself landing a girlfriend. He never went into detail on which teacher impacted him, or what part he found interesting. It was all in passing.

That's true. He wanted a college educated, (slim, shorter than him, Aryan) BFG, he never said it but I think he'd flash his CADD if it got him his ideal pussy.

 

[Chan Fan]

True, but Chris never did boast about it. His college years had a negative impact on him. You read about Chris boasting about how he got "Honor Roll" in high school and carried that with him until he graduated, not knowing what it actually meant and got average grades in HS. When you compare Chris' HS experience with college, Chris is going to to his high school experience cause he felt more care free, where as you can tell what happened to him in college. The only times he mentioned his CADD degree was when he was trying to justify himself landing a girlfriend. He never went into detail on which teacher impacted him, or what part he found interesting. It was all in passing.

I think he must have thought college would be like it is in movies, where it's fun and people live in huge, lavish dorms and all the girls are hot and half-naked all the time. Tons of parties and a huge source of community. Stuff like that. When I was in college no one really talked to each other and people were just sort of there, always tired and mumbling about having to go to work after class and how they were tired from staying up until 2am the night before working on a paper that was good enough to get a B-. No one made friends, no one dated anyone else from their classes. Everyone's social lives took place outside of school. People were there to work for a degree - Chris wasn't in college for that.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I think he must have thought college would be like it is in movies, where it's fun and people live in huge, lavish dorms and all the girls are hot and half-naked all the time. Tons of parties and a huge source of community. Stuff like that. When I was in college no one really talked to each other and people were just sort of there, always tired and mumbling about having to go to work after class and how they were tired from staying up until 2am the night before working on a paper that was good enough to get a B-. No one made friends, no one dated anyone else from their classes. Everyone's social lives took place outside of school. People were there to work for a degree - Chris wasn't in college for that.

I don't know whether Chris wanted to go to college after Manchester. I know he wanted to go for marketing, but I think Bob said "Chris you need to expand your horizons; you have to go to college." to which Chris must've replied "I'm gonna take marketing" to which Bob countered: "I'm going to put you in a CADD program." Other than that, you're right on the money.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

I think he must have thought college would be like it is in movies, where it's fun and people live in huge, lavish dorms and all the girls are hot and half-naked all the time. Tons of parties and a huge source of community. Stuff like that. When I was in college no one really talked to each other and people were just sort of there, always tired and mumbling about having to go to work after class and how they were tired from staying up until 2am the night before working on a paper that was good enough to get a B-. No one made friends, no one dated anyone else from their classes. Everyone's social lives took place outside of school. People were there to work for a degree - Chris wasn't in college for that.

Holy fuck, shit's changed. Now Chris going to a community college was doubtless more around people who were living at home and taking classes for a specific set of job skills rather than the 4 year University where almost everyone is in a dorm on campus. Dorms were physically more like cell blocks in my experience but the wild parties and the fucking were a real thing. Chris would still not have been included in those however and his roommate would have been looking for any possible way out of the room arrangement as quickly as he could. Today things have gone quite sideways in terms of behavior tolerated but in the past Chris would probably have gotten himself expelled from a 4 year institution.

 

[normankrasner]

I think he must have thought college would be like it is in movies, where it's fun and people live in huge, lavish dorms and all the girls are hot and half-naked all the time. Tons of parties and a huge source of community. Stuff like that. When I was in college no one really talked to each other and people were just sort of there, always tired and mumbling about having to go to work after class and how they were tired from staying up until 2am the night before working on a paper that was good enough to get a B-. No one made friends, no one dated anyone else from their classes. Everyone's social lives took place outside of school. People were there to work for a degree - Chris wasn't in college for that.

sounds like pretty much any community college that will take anyone and let them stay for years if they keep paying, until they become a liability, but Chris probably wouldn't have lasted any longer at 4 year college

I don't know whether Chris wanted to go to college after Manchester. I know he wanted to go for marketing, but I think Bob said "Chris you need to expand your horizons; you have to go to college." to which Chris must've replied "I'm gonna take marketing" to which Bob countered: "I'm going to put you in a CADD program." Other than that, you're right on the money.

Bob probably thought Chris could have gotten a practical 2 year degree easy instead of marketing degree that required 4 years, but he can make any degree useless

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Bob probably thought Chris could have gotten a piratical 2 year degree easy instead of marketing degree that required 4 years, but he can make any degree useless

Bob was in for a big surprise when he found out Chris was suspended from PVCC, and had taken more years to get that CADD degree. And he thought Chris' actions at his HS graduation were shameful.

 

[D.Angus]

Everyone always talks about Chris taking forever to get through collage classes cause of his laziness and slow-mindedness, which is partially true. More then likely Chris was only getting a certain amount of grant money, and could only attended maybe 2-3 classes per semester. While most normal people would also pay or take out loans to take additional classes, Chris probably only took the classes he could afford without taking on additional debt. With only a few classes a semester, this gave him plenty of time to hang around campus and loiter.

 

[Red-Hot Copper]

When his dad died
Bluespike
When his house caught on fire (although I still kinda giggle at it)
The fact his mental state has become so far gone he's a loon with internet access.