U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

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Escaped Abortion said:
It's the difference between black and Black now. Ethiopians are black, but they aren't Black; Black is decended from American slave blacks who lost their original culture and can't cope with it. I mean, I lost my original culture too, but I just decided embracing being American is fine.
Maybe they should go with slavekin, since it is everything they root their identities in.
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Maybe in America. I've been vaguely aware of some weird sub-culture debate about "black" vs. "Black" recently. I have for years used lower-case for the literal colour and Black for an ethnicity / race because that's good grammar. Just as I use "White" in the same context. Honestly, the way Americans seem unable to distinguish between race and culture drives me batshit. And will continue to do so. Only in the USA are Spanish people not "White".

Honestly, a Black American and a White American typically have more in common with each other than either would with someone of the same skin colour from a foreign country. Western Europe is a little homogenous in terms of culture but Turkish people are White and way more different to White Americans than Black Americans are. Don't even get me started on people calling being against Islam "racism".

One of the big causes of misunderstanding on race between the USA and Europe is that when Europeans say "Black" they mean "Black". When Americans say it they mean "African American". It's fucking maddeningly American-centric to the rest of us.

No offense in any of this, btw. And "slavekin", oh my! You'd be a braver man than I, but you're right. It seems to be a central core of some people's identity.
 
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DumbDude42 said:
depends a lot on details we dont know
my guess is that the situation from his point of view was something along these lines:
>driving along empty freeway at night, chilling
>suddenly barricade of cars
>panic, steer vehicle to the rightmost track because all other tracks are blocked
>get past barricade
>suddenly people
>BANG THUMP
>*screaming*
if he was drunk or on drugs, or way over the speed limit, then he's going to prison for sure
but if his lawyer succeeds at arguing that he couldn't have reacted better or faster given the circumstances then he'll walk free (this is what i hope for)

this is all speculation though
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According to the police, they aren't considering impairment a factor:
Officials were trying to determine the motive as well as point of entry onto the interstate. Mead said Kelete was suspected to have driven the wrong way on a ramp. Troopers did not know whether it was a targeted attack, but impairment was not considered a factor, Mead said.
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They're also kind of throwing the protesters under the bus in statements in the article which to me indicates they aren't automatically siding with the protesters:
Mead said at the press conference that protesters had shut down the interstate for 19 days in a row. He emphasized that the freeway is "simply not a safe place" for pedestrians, and said he hoped protesters would cease what he termed "unlawful behavior" in blocking the interstate.

"My hope is, as a result of this tragedy, protesters will reconsider their desire to be on the interstate because I cannot guarantee their safety, plain and simple," Mead said.
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Here's the law they're charging him under:
Vehicular assault—Penalty.
(1) A person is guilty of vehicular assault if he or she operates or drives any vehicle:
(a) In a reckless manner and causes substantial bodily harm to another; or
(b) While under the influence of intoxicating liquor or any drug, as defined by RCW 46.61.502, and causes substantial bodily harm to another; or
(c) With disregard for the safety of others and causes substantial bodily harm to another.
(2) Vehicular assault is a class B felony punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(3) As used in this section, "substantial bodily harm" has the same meaning as in RCW 9A.04.110.
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a, b, and c are the elements.

They look like they aren't concerned with b, so a and c, remain.
Proving "reckless manner" or "with disregard for the safety of others" is what they need to do and if he's smart, he didn't say shit without a lawyer, because based on the video I've seen proving these will only be a slam dunk with admissions from him about his actions but I'm not a lawyer so who knows.
 
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Evilronald said:
This right here might represent just how ridiculous the media is. “We only got one chance to get this right.” “Racial protestors converge on Washington DC.” “Who died for your dinner.” Like wtf is with these media people, they’re clearly all propagandists and not even trying to cover it up. View attachment 1427919
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I don't even know what the hell they want us to *do*. The only thing I can think of doing to appease them is to commit suicide, but then they'd dismiss it as "he couldn't handle having his white male privilege taken away" or some shit like that.

It's always a Catch-22 with them.
 
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HarblMcDavid said:
According to the police, they aren't considering impairment a factor:


They're also kind of throwing the protesters under the bus in statements in the article which to me indicates they aren't automatically siding with the protesters:


Here's the law they're charging him under:


a, b, and c are the elements.

They look like they aren't concerned with b, so a and c, remain.
Proving "reckless manner" or "with disregard for the safety of others" is what they need to do and if he's smart, he didn't say shit without a lawyer, because based on the video I've seen proving these will only be a slam dunk with admissions from him about his actions but I'm not a lawyer so who knows.
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One person I saw was actually trying to turn his lack of inebriation around on him as a criticism, arguing that because he wasn't drunk he must have hit the protestors deliberately.

Lunacy.
 
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Evilronald said:
This right here might represent just how ridiculous the media is. “We only got one chance to get this right.” “Racial protestors converge on Washington DC.” “Who died for your dinner.” Like wtf is with these media people, they’re clearly all propagandists and not even trying to cover it up.
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I immediately assumed that "who died for your dinner" was a vegan thing. Was surprised it was about covid and food workers.
 
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GenericReviewerDraco said:
More Weeb Wars crossover. Low T. Greg is an insane man.
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Well, I can't resist seeing how dumb his take is when something like this happens, especially when a surprise counterexample to the narrative happens. I was going to try to see how much he blamed it on a MAGA-wearing white supremacist before finding at the dude was black, but fuck Twitter timelines, especially when it's 100+-tweets-per-hour Doucette.
 
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Overly Serious said:
Maybe in America. I've been vaguely aware of some weird sub-culture debate about "black" vs. "Black" recently. I have for years used lower-case for the literal colour and Black for an ethnicity / race because that's good grammar. Just as I use "White" in the same context. Honestly, the way Americans seem unable to distinguish between race and culture drives me batshit. And will continue to do so. Only in the USA are Spanish people not "White".

Honestly, a Black American and a White American typically have more in common with each other than either would with someone of the same skin colour from a foreign country. Western Europe is a little homogenous in terms of culture but Turkish people are White and way more different to White Americans than Black Americans are. Don't even get me started on people calling being against Islam "racism".

One of the big causes of misunderstanding on race between the USA and Europe is that when Europeans say "Black" they mean "Black". When Americans say it they mean "African American". It's fucking maddeningly American-centric to the rest of us.

No offense in any of this, btw. And "slavekin", oh my! You'd be a braver man than I, but you're right. It seems to be a central core of some people's identity.
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Yeah, a lot of that does seem to be how screwy and inconsistent our convention is. I think on some level, the people in the US might realize Spanish people are white, but it's too much trouble for a smaller group of people, to separate them from Hispanic people from the Americas. They run into more of them, they tend to speak Spanish and they come in a variety of hues due to the mixing of genes between multiple peoples.

I think the Islam thing too, is that again, people in the US are too lazy to account for there being other religious groups in the middle east besides the most prevalent, or that someone could be a Muslim who is not middle eastern, so they just stereotype an decide Muslim is pretty much the same thing as Middle Eastern.

Eventually something that never directly impacted you, you should probably move on from, but then what would they be left with? Society feels so much regret and shame for having kept slaves, and is willing to grant them much more leniency for anti-social behavior when they have that to hide behind, without it they would lose their shield.
 
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Theres a nice thick hypothetical book about how the US got MASSIVELY FUCKED UP THE ASS by not only Russia, but also Islam and China. Just waiting for public approval.
 
Gnostic American said:
Maybe he's racist and deliberately plowed into Whites. Certainly, that would be the narrative if the driver was White and the victims were Black.
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Didn't you get the memo? White supremacy will accept you no matter what your color is. It's a melting pot of terrible bigots who think that the US, for its flaws, is still a pretty good country, and in fact, Western society when it follows its ideals represents a chance at freedom you are less likely to find elsewhere.

It's racist to want to be free.
 
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