Plagued Super Smash Bros. Community

Hungrybox has been generally nothing but... An annoying snob in the scene... Yeah not great but that's just him. I don't know how something super removed from hitting buttons that doesn't involve anyone else who hits buttons stops him from being a viable candidate for hitting more buttons. The worst part was that the girls he hit on were involved at least tangentially in the scene but it was consensual and they were of age
 
Sky Williams stream archive:

Stole this from reddit, but seems appropriate to post here (timestamps to shit he says there):


tl;dw less of an Epstein and more of a moron, nobody wants to believe their roommate is a monster.
  • claims he paid for half the houses rent, most of the food, games and everything else too and said he had a hard time telling people they can't move in.
  • 43:13 says he never followed through on his "Imma break 1 item from everyone until I'm paid $300 for not telling me there was a guest coming over."
  • takes the blame for the jisu stuff
  • 1:00:40 claims he never knew jisu's age cuz V said she is only there to help him make a game and she came in with a group of 3.
  • Sky said he thought she looked young but didn't ask cuz he didn't think a minor would be invited to live at his house.
  • 1:04:36 Only found out the age when someone else asked and she replied "16" and then noticed she was sleeping in the same bunk with the guy.
  • 1:10:29 Sky directly asks V if he is sexually active with the girl and he denies it, the guy then gave him (a fake) document for Sky and her parents to sign for her to enroll in school there. It is obvious he only did this so Sky and others would not question the situation.
  • 1:18:50 The entire time V was isolating her and gaslighting her to think that Sky is bad and trying to distract her from making the game.
  • 1:19:42 roommate wakes up early hearing them having sex, he gets pissed and blows the whistle to Sky
  • 1:21:32 V and Jisu leave and this is what he sends Sky, Here is what Jisu sends him.
  • 1:31:20 She would often tell him to mind his own business. Then later asks for help developing her own brand only to then get more isolated by V.
  • 1:36:08 Conversations with Jisu talking about how good it is that she escaped V and that he wished he could have done more but she was too controlled.
  • 1:41:30 Texts where she says she was living in her parents basement which makes Sky think that V lied about her being a runaway.
  • 1:50:34 Mccaine vs Brandon Woody, the victim would flip flop with one day he complains about it and the next he would be somewhat consensual, Sky says he recognizes that the victim might have been quiet just to not mess up things at the house.
  • 2:01:23 SmashCapps reaches out to Sky and says she got fired from her job over his twitlonger.
EDIT: Sky uses 3 names to refer to the abuser, first W***** then J***** then finally settles on "V"
EDIT 2: Sky was gonna cover the rest of the stories with receipts and claims they where much shorter but his roommate unplugs his router when he gets up for a break to stop the stream. (last image is his list of stories to go over.)
 

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Holy shit, this clown show is better than any circus one can actually go to and the tickets are all front row seats. I also like how Cinnpie is keeping quiet and letting Sky take the heat, she's probably going to lay low and wait for this to die down. Thank god I never got into Smash like that, I enjoyed Brawl for a time, but god damn. How do you fuck up your career this badly? Just play the game, win matches and coast. Like I'm sure these guys/gals had enough fucking clout to get whatever guy/girl they wanted that was of legal age. Bunch of fucking cradle robbers.
 
Btw, anyone saying that the Pokemon community is next - all I have to say is: Lol

You guys have any idea how many pedophiles / groomers / pigs / just generally awful people are in that community? They've had 4 separate incidents in the last 5 years (3 happening within a 1-year time span) to get their shit cleaned up. They're such a tightly knit cesspool of freaks though that you basically have to pry damning info like that from their cold, dead hands. Some of the people who were responsible for calling out bad actors got torn apart behind closed doors.

Good luck to whoever wants to try and kick off that bullshit again. You'll need it.
 
sabi was cucked by a dog gg

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fucking smash bros man. look at their avatars too! the dog rapist has gerard way lmao. I avoided competitive video game circles like the plague for years, and not only am I vindicated in that, but it was worse than I ever thought. general physical and emotional abuse, child molestation, and even fucking animals. I used to think the biggest issue was smelly petty self absorbed narcissists taking video games too seriously, but that was merely the foundation of the community. like judging a mountain for the landfill's worth of garbage and broken glass at the base, and not knowing about all the syringes, used condoms, and radioactive waste littering the rest of the mountain further up.
 
I got about an hour and 30ish minutes in before it just devolved into unintelligble sobbing while reading more DMs what the fuck. How much of this Jesse Werner shit is new? I see on ssbwiki there were apparently allegations in 2018? He literally said he saw them sleeping together yet didnt think they were having sex? How does that work?
And the way he carried himself in the stream oh man what a psycho. Literally cracking jokes and shit while talking about what was going on in his house.

Oh and apparently Sky fucking lost it at some point https://twitter.com/PuppehSSB/status/1280401508555796480
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>But let me at least hide with you
>ill be right here all day for you

Is sky unironically trying to befriend one of the abuse victim hoping they will take his side later? lol does this sick freak knows no bound? tbh i always thought sky was a fake drama whoring faggot and i'm surprised he never had a thread here, the only reason his career didnt crash sooner is because he's gay and black.

the smash subreddit pointed out Etika knew Sky was fake btw but no one trusted him at the time.


At least the internet is making memes out his house so it spreads awareness.

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bonus tweets that aged like wine

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I don't get how cheating in your personal life means you can't play Smash Bros any more. Am I insane?
It doesn't. Despite what society currently says, just because you cheat on your partner doesn't mean your life should end if you actually show remorse and make changes to become a better person.

If you're going around and creeping on little girls in a community based around a video game targeted at kids, however, you should be banned from it because you're a threat.
 
I have a bounty:

A friend mentioned Sky doing a stream a couple months ago where he vowed revenge on people he kicked out of the house because they shit talked him and posted pics of the dirty bathroom.

He also suicide baited and said he talked with his lawyer to make sure he wouldn't get sued.

Does anyone have an archive?
 
also is it just me or is every smash eceleb's response exactly the same "you can get redemption, just not in this community, we will survive and get stronger" and it's not even like it's just the same idea, its more or less just worded exactly the same. guess that how single minded making smash bros vids can make someone.
 
also is it just me or is every smash eceleb's response exactly the same "you can get redemption, just not in this community, we will survive and get stronger" and it's not even like it's just the same idea, its more or less just worded exactly the same. guess that how single minded making smash bros vids can make someone.
If they want to survive, they should take their own advice and quit the community they’ve built en masse. Organizing from here on out even after the pandemic lockdown ends will be a nightmare, and even though they’ll be new shoes to fill in the slots, the fact is that the FGC is now plagued with a very glaring trust problem that will once again fester in small groups and only get larger as the cycle repeats.

In other words: it’s dead, Jim.
 
also is it just me or is every smash eceleb's response exactly the same "you can get redemption, just not in this community, we will survive and get stronger" and it's not even like it's just the same idea, its more or less just worded exactly the same. guess that how single minded making smash bros vids can make someone.
It's not just a smash thing. Any community caught in this situation will respond the exact same way. It's an inoffensive way of giving people hope.
 
> I was there for four households
Wait, how many houses does sky own?
Where does he get his money? Does he just leech/blackmail/threaten/extort others?

I've known Sky for an amount of time. Haven't talked to him in a good two years. Take things with a grain of salt as I don't have logs. He's made quite a bit of money, mostly from youtube/twitch ad revenue, twitch donations, sponsors, and being paid to go to events.

Events who know better don't want to deal with him nowadays. He either defaults on his contractual obligations (In one given case, he was drunk around event premises and didn't show up for panels he was supposed to do), or embarrasses the event for even inviting him.

The Amazon event was already brought up. I'm sure some people here might remember the Genesis 3 event where he made inappropriate comments about contestants, one of the more notable ones being the infamous "Oooh they hugged" commentary from Sky for a good 20 seconds. When that was brought up and communities reacted to his behavior, he swatted it away claiming that it's homophobia, his usual defense from criticism.

Having talked to him about his housing situation, I can tell you this is pretty much what he was doing.

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I'm gonna drop some more info. I wasn't terribly close to the guy and I don't think I have the Skype logs anymore so you'll just have to take this with a grain of salt. Since I'm rather detached from the Smash & FGC scenes, I think he felt some semblance of anonymity to me which allowed him to share things he might've otherwise kept to himself.
Then again, he also loves to talk so who knows? Maybe someone else can corroborate what I'm about to share.

Sky's financial situation is precarious. He refused to open up a Patreon and rely on fan donations as he felt he was " double-dipping " by playing ads and requesting donations. He's said as much on his YT channel but I'm not sure if that video is still public.
His main source of income from YT didn't come from adsense. It was sponsors. At least it was in 2018-2019. He did eventually extend to selling merch at this time but I'm not privy on to how much he made off of sales as it varies greatly from vendor to vendor. I do remember him landing a pretty substantial contract in early 2018 that would've allowed him to pay off part of his debt. Whether he actually did so or not is another question.

When I say he was not in a good spot financially though, I can not stress that enough. By the end of 2017, to the best of my knowledge, he had accrued $800K+ in debt. This is most likely from the 1st house he was living in and because of that, he kept having to find new places to live that would overlook his substantial amount of debt. I didn't know too much about his roommate situation so I can't really tell you anything there, sadly. I personally just assumed that they were all close friends / had similar interests (ie they weren't just random bums off of Craigslist). What others have posted though kinda fits in with the general vibe I got regarding his situation.

I can corroborate that he has a lot of debt. He loves to talk and he talks too much. He's very brash with his spending and doesn't seem to understand what a budget is. In 2015, he straight up paid a bunch of hotel rooms at an event on a whim. He wants everyone to see him as this helpful community figure. I think that's why he's been able to stay afloat for so long.

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In spite of his supposed wealth/debt, he's a serial tax evader. At some point he owed the IRS 200k dollars or so he says, and went to cry on his Twitter as if that's the IRS' fault. His fans not knowing any better kept giving him money. Supposedly it is because he didn't pay the IRS taxes on his Twitch donations. Really makes you think about how much money this guy made.

He mentions his hardware as well, it was always of utmost importance to him to have the "best hardware" to make videos with, even though he didn't know how to use half his equipment, often relied on his "slaves" to do the work for little to no compensation, and didn't post any content for months.

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If you've ever met the guy in real life, to say that he's a character is an understatement. One of the Google Docs mentioned that he gave people in his houses nicknames. He doesn't just do this with housemates, he does that with everyone, and many of these nicknames are not endearing.

Talking to him or even reading his social media, you'd almost be fooled to think that he believes himself to be the protagonist of an anime and wants people in his circle to know about it. He wanted to "spirit bomb" one of the people who posted google docs about him before going on his shitshow of a stream.

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also is it just me or is every smash eceleb's response exactly the same "you can get redemption, just not in this community, we will survive and get stronger" and it's not even like it's just the same idea, its more or less just worded exactly the same. guess that how single minded making smash bros vids can make someone.

Most of the people in the smash community seem oblivious to the fact that pedo and abuse allegations mean that your only way out of destitution due to the inability to hold a job is death. There is no redemption in twitter era.


Not surprising that they're so naive, since they didn't see an obvious pedophile literally grooming on camera.

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Wait. That's when he stopped talking to you too?? He stopped talking to me just a little over 2 years as well.

My experience with the guy is that he's fake. He comes to you when he needs something, whether it's his pathological need to tell other people things to feel better about himself, or to get help with things (for free of course by begging) which is an endless vortex; as long as he needs help, he'll bother you. I got bored dealing with him and stopped replying to his messages, he went to bother someone else and never talked to me again.

When you need him specifically for something, he's never there unless it gets him clout publicly.

Unfortunately that's how it is in Youtube/Twitch spheres. I believe that quite a few of the people who were higher in the "house hierarchy" took advantage of the situation for what it's worth knowing full well what was going on in his house, and now that the dominos are falling, are taking the opportunity to take him down to get clout themselves.

That person who lived there for 4 households (ffsade), the author of one of the google docs, is one of those people. Sky spoke quite fondly of her on many occasions, and I've no doubt that she used her relation with him to get freelance work/connections/internet popularity especially with Riot Games. Sky was well connected with Riot Games, to the point where Riot paid for a flight for him to do stand up comedy for Riot employees. Now that she doesn't need him anymore, she gets to take the moral high ground.
 
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