Inactive Naomi Wu / SexyCyborg / RealSexyCyborg / Timaz - Chinese Bulimic in Tech and the manlet American husband who runs her social media

@Naomi_Wu you've mentioned a few times that you do freelance ruby on rails dev work for overseas companies- generally western salaries are a lot higher than the average job in china, wouldn't that put you into a pretty cozy lifestyle in shenzhen? I get that it wouldn't launch you into the upper class or anything, but you occasionally talk about financial distress which is surprising because rails freelancers can make bank even with only a little experience. You're also good at getting your name out there so it doesn't seem like you'd struggle to find work like a lot of online freelancers.

Oh, I was a Junior Dev at best and worked under a male pseudonym to avoid the obvious issues. The pay was ok, but these days working on Upwork and similar sites you are going head to head with South Asian programmers etc. so it's really not all that great anymore. But yes, if I ever had to I could go back to that- and did for a short time after Vice defunded me. But I can't earn a living coding and do technical builds at the same time, both are so time-consuming it's kind of a one or the other thing.

Working as Naomi Wu turns into dudes who claim they want hardware sourced, but can only talk about it on the phone, and then want to ramble on for an hour about their hopes and dreams and how I factor into that. I've tried a few times. To date, Chinese can stay professional, so far only a few Westerners can. It almost always gets weird. I'm probably going to pivot into hardware, but I'm going to do my best to make sure it's not customer-facing and I don't have to work in English anymore.

Note: I'm ignoring the "I disagree with you, debate me" type questions. You are obviously welcome to but there's not going to be any resolution so it's not exactly a productive use of anyone's time. Also if you're insulting me in the same message, why would I bother? Again, you're welcome to put on a childish show of how not a simp you are, but I'm probably not going to answer someone who is being preemptively hostile. Pulling pigtails and giving your dessert to a girl you have no relationship with are both broadcasting the exact same sentiment in childlike ways.

All she fucking did was post the same usual pasta with some extra added points and stories to save her "reputation" despite the fact you still can't find anything on some Chinese sites about her lol

Yes, I think the first thing that jumps into most people's minds when they view my replies here is "Wow, she just doesn't engage or provided detailed replies"🙄 Copy-pasted character assassination gets refuted with copy-pasted citations. This is reasonable.

I'm pretty well scrubbed these days from Chinese web sites. Chinese netizen speculation about me now gets taken down by censors/moderators. Perhaps they don't want to encourage other Chinese who might go open up YouTube channels and try and get famous? Other famous Chinese YouTubers are primarily famous in China, but also abroad. I'm the only one who focuses solely on the overseas market. This local media blackout may be changing though, they recently did this story about me https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/CNxhu5iPzFLJz4ZBPSuJ3w

Third: What I doubt is your actual goal. If you are fighting for social reform in China using tech as a crowbar, We have an awesome thread about 3D printing and CAD milling firearms. Come join us!

3D printing chokers and bar bots is bullshit masturbation. Use your abilities in a way that actually matters.

I haven't done any of that in years. I think the last LED wearable I did was almost a year ago? I do stuff more like this now: https://youtu.be/vMbS9CdnnC4
I just got an industrial CNC machine in so I'll be showing the process of learning how to use that and how they can be incorporated into small business to onshore certain components: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCBQRJmnYQ4/ I'm trying to move more in this direction.

I'm mostly interested in encouraging people to be more technically proficient- even if just a bit. The rejection of science, of acquiring expertise and competence through diligent self-application is clearly a global problem we have to push back against. In the process of doing that while being somewhat atypical, I seem to have the effect of showing the powers that be here that greater tolerance of the atypical on their part is something that gives China face. Or at least that's what I've been told.

I'm fairly active in the det_disp and 3D printed gun community, they have some novel fabrication methods. Not something I can build here of course, but I support their general goals of making sure people everyone has the option.


My real beef is with Chinese pretending China is some horrible dystopian oppressive regime against all things progressive. China does not care women do tech, and in fact encourages it. And stop pretending to be on the run from the CCP for being a lesbian. That's not illegal in China, either.

How do you rectify your overtly positive tone towards China on social media with your claims of oppression? That is what causes the most dissonance for me and much of the reason why I'm still pretty convinced you're a Chinese attempt to infiltrate Western maker communities to look for up and coming tech innovations.

This is kind of the problem, I am accused of being both anti-China, and an obvious Chinese agent- in the same breath. You can find countless posts of mine that support some things in China, and others that (carefully) call out certain things in China. Chinese think I'm a foreign agent, foreigners think I'm a Chinese agent, neither side is willing to accept that one person's subjective experience may not fit their personal beliefs about China or represent the experience of all Chinese. Demands that I characterize my life in China in some neat, binary way are naive. Because I will not, both pro and anti-China tribes denounce me as a tool of the other.
 
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I'm not gonna be like the rest of the thread kissing Naomi's ass just because she said fuck journalists, but I will bring up the point that right around when someone else in the thread starts bringing up Creality, your ties to it and what Timaz may have to do with it, since both Creality and you started to emerge online around the same time Timaz wiped everything clean. And then for totally no reason at all, few days later you just so happen to search your name to "set shit straight" on a forum dedicated to laughing at speds, and change your story again to paint yourself as some Chinese Maker Matyr who totes is being censored online because being a female talking about tech. That's suspicious as fuck.
 
I'm not gonna be like the rest of the thread kissing Naomi's ass just because she said fuck journalists, but I will bring up the point that right around when someone else in the thread starts bringing up Creality, your ties to it and what Timaz may have to do with it, since both Creality and you started to emerge online around the same time Timaz wiped everything clean. And then for totally no reason at all, few days later you just so happen to search your name to "set shit straight" on a forum dedicated to laughing at speds, and change your story again to paint yourself as some Chinese Maker Matyr who totes is being censored online because being a female talking about tech. That's suspicious as fuck.

Ah shit, you got me😁
 
Lmao holy shit bringing up creality must have hit a nerve. We're onto something here. This thread has been puttering along for ages and we've taken so many potshots. The poop touching us and dropping walls of text also moves this towards actual cow status.

Timaz: confirmed

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@Naomi_Wu What's your relationship to creality that you can both be sponsored by them and also have an influence on how they run things/release major things for them? By that, I'm referring to your saying that you would make sure that creality would use meanwell PSUs in the CR6 when it looked like they were going to cheap out and your releasing the source code for the Creality CR10s. I've never really seen someone who was sponsored have that level of trust from a company. How were you able to make sure that Creality would be using meanwell PSUs in the CR6 when they stated it was due to a lack of units being produced from meanwell? In the same vein, why did Creality choose you to release the source code for the CR10s instead of uploading it directly to their git? While it did make it to their git, you also released the code on twitter on April 9th, 2018 but the commit uploading the source code to Creality's git was done on July 1st 2018. Why would a company who was facing legal issues for not making their source code public choose to have the source only available on a .rar file that you uploaded to your personal twitter for months on end?

As an aside, since you have influence at creality, do you mind asking them what's up with the fucked up CR6 review units they sent out? I've seen Joel's video and when the CR6 works well, it's beautiful but it seems like most other reviewers are having issues with the machine arriving broken with some having broken belt tensioners/Z limit switches out of the box and others suffering the PSU fan being too loud/out of the box printing being fucked up.

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This is from MakeAnything, a major 3d printing youtuber. I assume the machines that creality is sending to major youtubers are curated and seeing major channels with millions of subs getting units that are defective is pretty damn concerning. There's only 2 youtubers that got ones that work perfectly, CHEP and 3DPrintingNerd. This is very concerning esp considering I personally backed the printer and due to the whole kickstarter thing, have no recourse since the kickstarter has ended. If even major media figures are getting machines of this quality, what will us plebs get? It's honestly not looking good.
 
I guess there have to be some? I'm not really the marketable kind of lesbian- I like Toms/soft butch girls. Most dudes like the cosplay girl femme/femme kissy sort. If I was faking it femme girls would be a much better bet.

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lmao what

lipstick lesbians who not so subtly hint they might consider going bi are far and away the most marketable part of the LGBTQQIA++ spectrum, it's why they are the default choice if a film or television property wants to add a splash of nonthreatening diversity

none of your overwhelmingly male audience gives a shit what specific microscopic subset of women you pretend to be attracted to
 
@Naomi_Wu What's your relationship to creality that you can both be sponsored by them and also have an influence on how they run things/release major things for them?

Creality sponsors me, we have a one year contract. I get a monthly stipend, in exchange, I deliver 1m views a year and agree to exclusively review Creality 3D printers. In my previous contract I was supposed to act as community liaison, the community gave me a lot of shit while I was going out on a limb to fight the people who pay me on their behalf, so I removed it from the current, renewed contract. I still do it, but I'm not obligated to.

By that, I'm referring to your saying that you would make sure that creality would use meanwell PSUs in the CR6 when it looked like they were going to cheap out and your releasing the source code for the Creality CR10s. I've never really seen someone who was sponsored have that level of trust from a company.

Ah! I get the Creality angle now, why people are suspicious. That makes more a lot more sense, yes of course it's super unusual. I thought people were saying I or hench-husband owned the top consumer 3D printing company on the planet or something 😂 Yes, why do I have so much influence is a completely sensible question. I'm something of an outside consultant.

Creality is run by four main partners, each overseeing different aspects of operations. They are mostly from rural backgrounds, local boys made good kind of thing. None have either a 3D printing background, or an engineering background. They are good at managing a factory and making things cheaply and just good enough. None speak English, there are no foreigners working at the company. So at a fundamental level, they don't "get" 3D printing, and certainly don't get foreign sentiments around customer service and all that. I have slowly build a solid power base there because my initial efforts with GPL paid off- and the demands for boycotts stopped, and then when I pushed them to OSHWA certify the Ender 3 and it became the best selling printer in the world. In general, they listen to me, things go smoother.

Of course, I have had misses that have set me back as well and hurt my pull, like trying to arrange cooperation with Printrbot and Duet. But overall over the past year and a half I've delivered and they've profited significantly. They did not see why people would want a belt printer- still don't, but I pushed hard and now they see the community is on the same page. I'm not a boss, but the bosses do listen because of my track record.

I also move a lot of printers through my channel- big numbers, so they don't really want to risk me doing the same thing for another company. This gives me a nuclear option, so it's always cheaper to let me rant at them than to risk firing me. They pay me not to work for anyone else just as much as they pay me to work for them.

A lot of what I do outside of videos is explaining things to them. They honestly don't even ask me about shooting videos much anymore, but help explaining and interacting with the community is pretty much constant. I think this works because overall they are good eggs in my opinion.

Early on, when I was trying out working with them one of the bosses picked me up at the bus stop in his Toyota mini-van, I said something about the boss of another well-known 3D printer company driving a Tesla and he grumbled "Yes, but I have never failed to pay my employees" which in Chinese says a lot- because that other boss was known for cheating his staff and missing paydays. So fundamentally, with Creality I am actually dealing with basically honest people- which changes everything. To be honest in Shenzhen a there are times when you are dealing with people who want to lie, cheat and steal and need your help to call it a misunderstanding and get away with it. With Creality, provided the customer requests are realistic and reasonable, *usually* I can bring them around. I'm in a position to do this because I am monstrously aggressive, speak the language, largely outside their hierarchy and as a meinu, (kind of mademoiselle?) culturally, there's no real lost face in me storming into the office and having a tantrum. I just do it on behalf of customers and they get to roll there eyes and say "Oh Naomi is freaking out again..." like I am a girl who wants a designer handbag and in a cultural context it just works much more smoothly than "This foreign guy is calling us idiots".

How were you able to make sure that Creality would be using meanwell PSUs in the CR6 when they stated it was due to a lack of units being produced from meanwell?

I translated "bait and switch" essentially and told them this was what they were and would be accused of. This one was not very difficult.

In the same vein, why did Creality choose you to release the source code for the CR10s instead of uploading it directly to their git? While it did make it to their git, you also released the code on twitter on April 9th, 2018 but the commit uploading the source code to Creality's git was done on July 1st 2018. Why would a company who was facing legal issues for not making their source code public choose to have the source only available on a .rar file that you uploaded to your personal twitter for months on end?

I run Creality's GitHub page, Chinese companies can never figure it out. I just got lazy and used mine until they posted it on their site.

As an aside, since you have influence at creality, do you mind asking them what's up with the fucked up CR6 review units they sent out? I've seen Joel's video and when the CR6 works well, it's beautiful but it seems like most other reviewers are having issues with the machine arriving broken with some having broken belt tensioners/Z limit switches out of the box and others suffering the PSU fan being too loud/out of the box printing being fucked up.

The units that reviewers got were essentially one-offs. Mine even had SLA instead of injection molded parts. I've told them about MakeAnything and told them I'll be over to pull a few boxes off the line to test before they ship. Again, my reputation at stake. There's not going to be any progress before then because they will just say the final models won't have problems, so those are the ones I need to verify. Agreed, not happy about cherry-picked units, but I was pretty opposed to them crowdfunding the CR-6 and not the belt printer in the first place. I'm not a boss, they listen to me a lot but not always.

You forgot the 2 liters of silicon.

Ahem, two and a half liters thank you.
 
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Ahem, two and a half liters thank you.
Ok, cool.

Just as a quick followup:
-Do you understand what KF is? This isn't a social networking, branding, or marketing playground. Also, 'correcting' your image will not work here. No matter how much 'niceposting' or link-dropping you do. No one is clicking.
-What is your actual goal here?
 
We've taken a lot of potshots at you and quite frankly I still don't believe you are entirely who you claim to be, but I appreciate your willingness to converse with us in a civilized manner rather than just screeching like most do when they find threads on themselves here. I am also fascinated by your wholehearted acceptance of your narcissism and how you have seemed to embrace that aspect of yourself that many would consider negative. Your backstory is questionable and I believe Naomi Wu is a character (in service of yourself, Timaz, or CCP), but whoever it is responding to us seems alright, as far as kiwi subjects go.

I'll take my dumb ratings now, but the civility is certainly a refreshing change, whether what you claim is true or not.

ETA: Why are you so much harder to find on Chinese platforms as compared to Western? That's kinda sketch for someone who is from China, works in China, and isn't an attempt to implant in the Western maker community.
 
I just wanna say that I have no idea if @Naomi_Wu truly is who she says she is, is a fake geek girl, CCP plant, or is the fetish avatar/mouth piece for Timaz and I don't know how much it matters to me. That's not what's drawn me to this thread. I like how she says goofy ass stuff from time to time, like that time she freaked out and told someone to "stop fucking with progress here", or this bizarre shrieking at youtube and somehow thinking that that'll make things better. My favorite thing about her, though, is the orbiters. You've cultivated yourself quite the garden of thirsty simps Wu and I do respect the hustle. It's an... interesting business model but you've mostly made it work.
 
-Do you understand what KF is? This isn't a social networking, branding, or marketing playground. Also, 'correcting' your image will not work here. No matter how much 'niceposting' or link-dropping you do. No one is clicking.

I actually didn't know what sort of site KF was when the site popped up on Google and I initially replied. I have since researched it. I was trying to- as you say, do some reputation management, like I tend to try and do a few times a month. "Naomi has fucked up boobs no ass" etc. is all well and good, a good roasting and being taken down a notch never hurt anyone but I'm proud of my work, basic as it is.

Previously, when it's come to campaigns saying I was a fraud maybe 20% were malicious, insecure, just trying to find any way to discredit me. But in fairness, 80% said "Ok there's never been anyone else this SexyCyborg chick so can we all agree this is a bit questionable?", and that 80% would allow me to provide whatever evidence it took to change their minds. Some did, some didn't- but their doubt was in good faith in many cases.

At the time there was just some stuff I could not explain- which needless to say was very frustrating. People would cancel their sponsorships in large numbers because of stuff that simply wasn't true. "Well there's this meathead in some pictures with you who had a 3D printer for 6 months before giving up on it, he must be the brains, not you actually doing it all on camera for 5 years". And I couldn't just say "yeah look I'm a closeted lesbian who walks around half-naked- prison rules, you pick the one that scares the other ones off, he ain't the brains and I took the printer when he couldn't get it working". Now I can say that.

I don't mind if they cancel because I'm not going to be their Internet Waifu or whatever- fair enough, it's an interaction they want that I don't offer. But it's quite frustrating to bust your ass over a workbench all week, on camera, only to have all the credit go to some meathead who frankly is far, far less technically proficient just because he gave up on something you mastered and showed up in a few pictures with you.

Now I can set the record straight, so try to. But from what I have read about this site, and from what you are saying it seems KF is that 20% that does not care if I am real or not, if I'm harmful or not, and these efforts are wasted because the purpose of the forum is basically malicious, yes?

-What is your actual goal here?

Well as I said and you surmised, reputation management I suppose. I'm ok with heckling but I like the truth about my work to at least be floating around out there.

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lmao what

lipstick lesbians who not so subtly hint they might consider going bi are far and away the most marketable part of the LGBTQQIA++ spectrum, it's why they are the default choice if a film or television property wants to add a splash of nonthreatening diversity

none of your overwhelmingly male audience gives a shit what specific microscopic subset of women you pretend to be attracted to

True, femme lesbians are marketable. I would have thought people would prefer if my tastes were for femmes but yes, as you said, and as I mentioned earlier, my audience has overwhelmingly been ok with it, which is nice.

I'm pretty firm there is zero chance of me going bi though.
 
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bust your ass over a workbench all week
lmao what ass

KF is that 20% that does not care if I am real or not, if I'm harmful or not, and these efforts are wasted because the purpose of the forum is basically malicious, yes?
Some of the rhetoric used may be offputting but we absolutely care about the truth. Look around and you'll find obsessive researching done about the strangest people. The fascination comes from how these sorts of people distort the truth. I would be fascinated to watch you convince us, if you can.
 
I actually didn't know what sort of site KF was when the site popped up on Google and I initially replied. I have since researched it. I was trying to- as you say, do some reputation management, like I tend to try and do a few times a month. "Naomi has fucked up boobs no ass" etc. is all well and good, a good roasting and being taken down a notch never hurt anyone but I'm proud of my work, basic as it is.
Now I don't use Google myself very often if at all but last time I remembered KiwiFarms shows up pretty low due to SEO shenanigans, hell I even tried it myself just now and this page doesn't show up until page 7! Nobody is going to fucking look on page 7! Only on page 2 does KF show up when you type in the word forum along with your name, which I don't think many people will do in the first place if they're just looking for some SexyCyborg content. It should be a no-brainer not to engage with haters, that is how you make a fool out of yourself and your brand (see J* and any other businesscow) but I guess it's just a part of your brand to constantly go at it with other forces who dare question your narrative.
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It is funny though seeing you only come out in full damage control months and months after this thread started, and only because we questioned Creality for 2 posts. 2 fucking posts. Must have been lurking at the very least, because something isn't right here!
For a sponsorship with some community input to go all out defending the company, that doesn't seem normal.
If we are taking what you say about your relationship with them and you at face value I doubt they will drop you anytime soon because you showed up on some autistic research forums. Nobody has dropped PewDiePie because we make fun of him here for example. Also I don't know why you are so prideful over having input that basically amounts to "Guys do something, the woman won't stop fucking shrieking".

It doesn't help with the comments Nahash and Chan the Wizard said about Creality's sketchiness, with the heavy Western presence online, the LinkedIn profiles, (I am taking their word for that because I don't have an account there, if another person can post caps that would be great), the declining quality of the printer themselves. It feels like when there's a scam product online like BetterHelp and then there's staff trying to say how it's totally legit, you know? People into tech have every right to be suspicious of your character as a business.
Don't say that it's because us silly westerners just don't use Chinese services so of course we're not gonna see just how great Creality is over there, there's people here who do understand Chinese.
And you don't need to write entire thesis length posts about why you do ___ and why you are just so great at it because you are the only important woman in tech in Shenzen or AGAIN with the tom/dee lectures. Nobody is going to bother reading your narcissistic autobiography and I think most people have basic ideas of what tom/dee is, since it's not like China is unique in having ultra femmes and soft butches.

Also where is Timaz, Timaz if you are here, blink twice so we know you're safe!
 
It doesn't help with the comments Nahash and Chan the Wizard said about Creality's sketchiness, with the heavy Western presence online, the LinkedIn profiles, (I am taking their word for that because I don't have an account there, if another person can post caps that would be great), the declining quality of the printer themselves. It feels like when there's a scam product online like BetterHelp and then there's staff trying to say how it's totally legit, you know? People into tech have every right to be suspicious of your character as a business.

I just want to interject here for a minute, Creality is well known as a reliable printer manufacturer in the 3D printing hobby. While Naomi's connections to creality are questionable, the actual products they put out are pretty good for their price point. My points regarding the issues with the CR6 printer were because I had a rare opportunity to ask someone who actually worked with creality about some concerns I have with their beta units that they sent to people. If it wasn't for the chance to ask about the CR6, I would not have brought up the quality of the printers because they are very good normally and I was concerned that creality wasn't meeting their established standard.
 
Now I don't use Google myself very often if at all but last time I remembered KiwiFarms shows up pretty low due to SEO shenanigans, hell I even tried it myself just now and this page doesn't show up until page 7!

See below, "Naomi Wu" past 24 hours. I haven't checked in a while though, no idea why it didn't come up before. Never read this forum before.
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It should be a no-brainer not to engage with haters, that is how you make a fool out of yourself and your brand (see J* and any other businesscow) but I guess it's just a part of your brand to constantly go at it with other forces who dare question your narrative.

Ignore the haters is actually pretty bad business advice, it lets other people control your narrative unchallenged.

It is funny though seeing you only come out in full damage control months and months after this thread started, and only because we questioned Creality for 2 posts. 2 fucking posts. Must have been lurking at the very least, because something isn't right here!
For a sponsorship with some community input to go all out defending the company, that doesn't seem normal.

Huh, I've gone on absolute rampages defending Creality? They pay my bills. I also go on rampages against them, but you know, slight problem with aggression...

It doesn't help with the comments Nahash and Chan the Wizard said about Creality's sketchiness, with the heavy Western presence online, the LinkedIn profiles, (I am taking their word for that because I don't have an account there, if another person can post caps that would be great), the declining quality of the printer themselves. It feels like when there's a scam product online like BetterHelp and then there's staff trying to say how it's totally legit, you know? People into tech have every right to be suspicious of your character as a business.

I think a big problem here is not being in the community you don't know how often and how enthusiastically I criticize Creality.

Just get ass implants already

I don't like the way buttock implants look, the recovery time is more than I can allow for and travel outside China a bad idea for the foreseeable future. There is a place in Spain that does a combined fat grafting and implant procedure but I just can't justify the expense. I'm 26 it doesn't really make sense for me to keep throwing money at my body. Being ass-less really doesn't bother me that much.

please stop trying to be a moral authority over other countries politics when you can't even criticize your own.

In 1874 in NYC, a child by the name of Mary Ellen Wilson was rescued from a life of horrible abuse. This was accomplished in part by the efforts of the ASPCA. At the time children were seen in the eyes of the law as little more than their parent's property, and while there were some basic laws against animal abuse on the books, there were few such against abusing children. An argument was made by proxy- if it's not ok to abuse a dog, by extension is cannot be ok to abuse a child.

This is why campaigns to stop animal abuse in China can be touchy- because you can easily substitute "dogs" or "cats" in these conversations to criticize government policy. Because if animals have rights, by extension humans do as well. This is often one of the most effective ways to argue against certain things in China, by pointing to something very similar abroad and denouncing it. If it's wrong for American police to incarcerate or kill American minorities without cause, by extension the same must hold true for certain Chinese minorities.

In China we are accustomed to nuance in these conversations and a certain amount of reading between the lines. And in this manner- by proxy, I do my best to communicate as a middle-class Chinese with the world outside. But for those overseas, lucky to be able to just blurt out their thoughts on a subject in an open and candid manner- it is a little difficult for them to understand. As one of very few Chinese with a large social media footprint, I think the right thing for me to do is to speak on certain shared beliefs and say "hey look, we don't think this is ok either". I just can't use examples from my own country if I want to stay on social media for long.

This doesn't mean I'm a member of one of another of your assorted ideological tribes- they simply don't map to China. It means I can use that language as steganography for problems here I want to address.
 
You could always do squats, especially jumping squats, if you want to grow a larger ass.
 
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