U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Forgetful Gynn]

When you break the law using a gun that gun becomes evidence to be used against you, yes. Some states go as far as to confiscate *all* your guns when accused of any type of violent crime or gun crime (and if you don't get convicted you can maybe get them back, assuming the cops didn't sell em off or melt 'em down, and assuming you can afford any "storage" fees they might try to charge you).

Ken and Karen there were flat out brandishing and that's, AFAIK, illegal in all 50 states. In Missouri it's a class B Felony. They should have kept them holstered/slung. You don't pull unless you're going to shoot, especially on camera.

They're basically going to lose their 2A rights (via felony conviction) unless by some miracle the DA decides to plea down to a non-violent misdemeanor. I don't think even the best of lawyers is going to otherwise be able to get them off of this one given all the video evidence against 'em.

The statute in Missouri that prohibits brandishing points to the state’s self-defense laws as exceptions. Castle doctrine laws say that a person has no duty retreat while defending themselves or their home with force against an intruder. And Missouri’s version of this law is far more expansive than in most states. It’s not limited to just the structure of the home itself but covers the rest of their private property, too.

Ultimately it comes down to "does a person whose only concern in life is being re-elected think that ken and karen were being threatened?". The only time you're fully justified in pulling your gun is when you get killed first. Every other time you're entirely at the mercy of bribed politicians.

 

[Green-Machine]

Remember Alex Scott? The Oklahoma commie representative that claims her neighbor was raped instead of herself because the police "doxed" her? There have been updates.

First, some other frumpy woman reposted the allegations...kind of:

http://archive.md/sdTXu

It's interesting how this version differs though.

The first tweet alleges a rape. The tweet with the details down the chain does not actually allege the rape however, merely calls the individual a rapist and repeats the other details from the original story (which definitely constitute assault if true).

Maybe it's nothing, but I find it...thunk provoking. It's almost like they're trying to avoid laying out the original timeline for some reason.


The second update Alex Scott alleges she voluntarily went in to the police to give them access to her threatening voicemails which is supposedly to help with this case.

The police had a search warrant waiting for her and took her phone when she balked at the notion of giving the phone to the police because "muh harasser".

http://archive.md/G7PpM

It's almost like they've been dealing with her horseshit for a while and anticipated her next move.

Bonus:
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http://archive.md/6Jol2

Yep, bitch definitely fucking crazy.

Normally I don't care what happens to a big business but I don't think it's Amazon's responsibility to pay for the damages through tax, if I was Jeff is pull out and go to Bellevue instead

 

[MrJokerRager]

When you break the law using a gun that gun becomes evidence to be used against you, yes. Some states go as far as to confiscate *all* your guns when accused of any type of violent crime or gun crime (and if you don't get convicted you can maybe get them back, assuming the cops didn't sell em off or melt 'em down, and assuming you can afford any "storage" fees they might try to charge you).

Ken and Karen there were flat out brandishing and that's, AFAIK, illegal in all 50 states. In Missouri it's a class B Felony. They should have kept them holstered/slung. You don't pull unless you're going to shoot, especially on camera.

They're basically going to lose their 2A rights (via felony conviction) unless by some miracle the DA decides to plea down to a non-violent misdemeanor. I don't think even the best of lawyers is going to otherwise be able to get them off of this one given all the video evidence against 'em.

Colin Noir's take was that Ken kinda held his weapon in a awkward but correct fashion. The wife was the one that could be argued brandishing that gun.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

I come bearing whitepills for once!

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CaNcEl CuLtUrE dOeSn'T eXiSt!!!

 

[Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX]

The statute in Missouri that prohibits brandishing points to the state’s self-defense laws as exceptions. Castle doctrine laws say that a person has no duty retreat while defending themselves or their home with force against an intruder. And Missouri’s version of this law is far more expansive than in most states. It’s not limited to just the structure of the home itself but covers the rest of their private property, too.

Ultimately it comes down to "does a person whose only concern in life is being re-elected think that ken and karen were being threatened?". The only time you're fully justified in pulling your gun is when you get killed first. Every other time you're entirely at the mercy of bribed politicians.

Thank God St. Louis' Soros-appointed DA already said she will prosecute to the fullest right?

 

[OnMoTi]

With some small defense of Trayvon--Zimmerman was acting like a gay homo pervert following Trayvon around.

He saw a person in a hoodie casing homes to rob (walking up to the windows and looking in, then moving on the next.) He called the cops and followed the suspect until he lost him and went back to his truck. That's when the monkey ambushed him and started bashing his head into the concrete. There is no defense for Saint Skittles, large or small.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Colin Noir's take was that Ken kinda held his weapon in a awkward but correct fashion. The wife was the one that could be argued brandishing that gun.

>Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner
Showing that they had guns at all can be considered a threat. Holding it, pointing to it, making a hand gesture, etc etc. The language is loose enough to allow any interpretation of political benefit.

 

[deeplyhigh]

Fox News continues to be the only national outlet covering the aftermath of the Minneapolis riots. Isn’t it strange how a conservative station appears to care more about the wellbeing of blacks than all of the liberal media supporting the riots...



Remember the BlueLeaks from last month? Local officials are only now learning the extent of what/who was doxxed. It includes people who run the power grid in the state, security personnel for chemical processing plants, hospitals, and the campuses of large employers. Multiple employees from publicly traded companies who run security operations had their information leaked.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Fox News continues to be the only national outlet covering the aftermath of the Minneapolis riots. Isn’t it strange how a conservative station appears to care more about the wellbeing of blacks than all of the liberal media supporting the riots...

Fox News is definitely biased and panders to a certain demographic (duh) but I've learned to write off people that just go "duuurrhhhhghhhgh FAWKS NEWS!!!"

Yeah, go ahead and bash Fox News while CNN implies Mt. Rushmore is an icon of bigotry.

Maybe we ought to spin it that we fought the Native Americans to free their slaves!

 

[OnMoTi]

Fox News continues to be the only national outlet covering the aftermath of the Minneapolis riots. Isn’t it strange how a conservative station appears to care more about the wellbeing of blacks than all of the liberal media supporting the riots...

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Remember the BlueLeaks from last month? Local officials are only now learning the extent of what/who was doxxed. It includes people who run the power grid in the state, security personnel for chemical processing plants, hospitals, and the campuses of large employers. Multiple employees from publicly traded companies who run security operations had their information leaked.

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Outside of their opinion shows, Fox News is center-left. Example A; Dylann Roof (a white man who walked into a black church and started shooting) vs Emanuel Samson (a black man who walked into a white church and started shooting.)

Not even CNN was that biased (2,350 articles about Dylann Roof vs 41 articles about Emanuel Samson, a ratio of 57:1, compared to Fox News' ratio of 86:1.)

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Maybe we ought to spin it that we fought the Native Americans to free their slaves!

Better than pushing the narrative that we used germ warfare on them nearly a hundred years before the germ theory of disease was formulated.

We did use them for mining uranium without protective equipment, but they got paid for it, mostly.

 

[ImHapp]

Fox News is definitely biased and panders to a certain demographic (duh) but I've learned to write off people that just go "duuurrhhhhghhhgh FAWKS NEWS!!!"

Yeah, go ahead and bash Fox News while CNN implies Mt. Rushmore is an icon of bigotry.

Maybe we ought to spin it that we fought the Native Americans to free their slaves!

They could give a flying fuck if black people die due to the protests. Dismantling Trump is all that matters and if backing the radicals to destroy the city is gonna give them that chance they gonna stir that pot.

 

[mindlessobserver]

When you break the law using a gun that gun becomes evidence to be used against you, yes. Some states go as far as to confiscate *all* your guns when accused of any type of violent crime or gun crime (and if you don't get convicted you can maybe get them back, assuming the cops didn't sell em off or melt 'em down, and assuming you can afford any "storage" fees they might try to charge you).

Ken and Karen there were flat out brandishing and that's, AFAIK, illegal in all 50 states. In Missouri it's a class B Felony. They should have kept them holstered/slung. You don't pull unless you're going to shoot, especially on camera.

They're basically going to lose their 2A rights (via felony conviction) unless by some miracle the DA decides to plea down to a non-violent misdemeanor. I don't think even the best of lawyers is going to otherwise be able to get them off of this one given all the video evidence against 'em.

By this logic, instead of just threatening to shoot, they should have just opened fire. The protestors broke through a clearly demarcated barrier complete with a no-tresspassing sign. The homeowners were in their rights to shoot them under Missouri's castle doctrine. If showing forbearance and not unloading is to be punished then the only proper and legal solution to this issue is to unload the entire magazine into the crowd the next time this happens.

I really don't like the Brandishing laws, especially when they are applied in this way. You remove critical steps in the escalation ladder by requiring the only role of a gun is either as a hidden threat, or an actual and active threat. If you criminalize the deterrent factor, then you insure the only time guns will be used is to kill people. But if that is the society you want to live in, then every concealed carry person in America should not show they have a gun before shooting someone dead. They should just whip that sucker out and gun em down without warning.

Cuz thats okay, right?

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Better than pushing the narrative that we used germ warfare on them nearly a hundred years before the germ theory of disease was formulated.

We did use them for mining uranium without protective equipment, but they got paid for it, mostly.

The idea was floated around during at least one siege on a fort, and it possibly happened; might have happened some other times, but there is no real strong evidence of it, and historians jump at the conclusion it happened and might have been widespread for the political narrative (thanks Ward Churchill). I have to disagree with you regarding the germ theory thing, that doesn't matter--they knew how smallpox could be transmitted and was contagious. If it did happen, it was not widespread and was not a widespread strategy at all despite what they imply in schools.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Fox News continues to be the only national outlet covering the aftermath of the Minneapolis riots. Isn’t it strange how a conservative station appears to care more about the wellbeing of blacks than all of the liberal media supporting the riots...

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Remember the BlueLeaks from last month? Local officials are only now learning the extent of what/who was doxxed. It includes people who run the power grid in the state, security personnel for chemical processing plants, hospitals, and the campuses of large employers. Multiple employees from publicly traded companies who run security operations had their information leaked.

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Fox News is definitely biased and panders to a certain demographic (duh) but I've learned to write off people that just go "duuurrhhhhghhhgh FAWKS NEWS!!!"

Yeah, go ahead and bash Fox News while CNN implies Mt. Rushmore is an icon of bigotry.

Maybe we ought to spin it that we fought the Native Americans to free their slaves!

Nobody can deny FOX News has a certain bias. But for liberal outlets to completely ignore the fates of many minorities that they champion 24/7 is just downright disturbing. Many liberals and progressives would say that its concern trolling or fake genuine interest in these people. Lets says its true, why aren't any of your outlets covering the riots and business owners of many destroyed businesses. Majority of which, are minorities.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

So question. If everything is so fucked, is there anything that can be done to fix it? If not, then how do we go on living life? Is it time to just give up, or what? Where do we go from here?

Take life one day at a time, do what you can to make your part of KiwiLand a decent place, and help out any neighbors who need and appreciate and a helping hand.

Is anyone else believing that come election day they will block roads in specifically red states just like they do here?

Even with media spin, it would be bad optics. And with many people being encouraged to vote absentee if and when they can, such blockades might not have the intended impact.

It already is illegal to block highways. Nobody enforces it though and hasn’t since BLM started this gay tactic years ago.

I'm not sure why more isn't done to enforce the existing laws, unless the fear of bad optics (police arresting minorities) or special interests controlling local government come into play.

Although it barely lasted an hour on 09-Jul, Detroit had a temporary "Cop Free Zone" when activists blocked traffic near Belle Isle State Park.

Group declares cop-free zone near Belle Isle for Black joy, demands police defunding

Shortly after 6 p.m., Detroit police told the group they would have to clear the intersection. By 6:30 p.m. the crowd had left the intersection.

www.freep.com

(Archive: Detroit Cop Free Zone)

Speaking of tech giants, make sure to check your Google settings if you have an android. They installed a Covid-19 exposure tracker.

Go to your phone settings, then to Google settings. S'right there.

It looks like this update was pushed to Marshmallow 6.0 and higher. One wonders if this means people with older Android Versions won't/can't get this app. Who'd think that it pays to use old technology as much as possible before upgrading?

BREAKING - Riot geared police and protesters clash after a fatal shooting by police in Detroit. Tensions rising.

Here's an article where Chief Craig was eager to release the body cam footage -- largely in part to discredit some of the widest rumors already floating around about the incident.

Detroit police chief: Video shows killing of man by officers was justified shooting

Detroit Police Chief James Craig says video proves officers were justified in fatally shooting a man who fired at a cop's head at close range.

www.freep.com

(Archive 2: Detroit Police Shooting)

What was that about social distancing?

Come Monday in Michigan that is now a ticketable offense -- $500! -- at least if not wearing a mask. I mean, for normal people, the rioters will be excepted.

The problem in Michigan (or other states with similar orders in place) is that normies get told social distancing is a misdemeanor charge with a fine attached to it only to see protestors openly ignoring and flouting the same laws with zero legal consequence. The average person sees this and wonders why they should have to wear a mask when protestors don't have to and aren't facing the same legal consequences with which others have been threatened.

Wasn't Detroit fairly restrained early on during the riots? Why are they jogging out over this obviously justified shooting now?

Anyone following this thread regularly probably noticed the slower rate of new posts over the last few days. With the original set of protests largely dwindling down to the die-hards, it seems as if some people wanted another incident to happen that would allow them to start the protest cycle all over again. As we've seen across the country, some people are protesting solely to protest and have little regard for the actual people and victims whose lives have been irreparably changed in a bad way.
(Edited for spelling)

 

[NyQuilninja]

Take life one day at a time, do what you can to make your part of KiwiLand a decent place, and help out any neighbors who need and appreciate and a helping hand.


Even with media spin, it would be bad optics. And with many people being encouraged to vote absentee if and when they can, such blockades might not have the intended impact.


I'm not sure why more isn't done to enforce the existing laws, unless the fear of bad optics (police arresting minorities) or special interests controlling local government come into play.

Although it barely lasted an hour on 09-Jul, Detroit had a temporary "Cop Free Zone" when activists blocked traffic near Bell Isle State Park.

Group declares cop-free zone near Belle Isle for Black joy, demands police defunding

Shortly after 6 p.m., Detroit police told the group they would have to clear the intersection. By 6:30 p.m. the crowd had left the intersection.

www.freep.com

(Archive: Detroit Cop Free Zone)


It looks like this update was pushed to Marshmallow 6.0 and higher. One wonders if this means people with older Android Versions won't/can't get this app. Who'd think that it pays to use old technology as much as possible before upgrading?


Here's an article wher eChief Craig was eager to relase the body cam footage -- largely in part to discredit some of the widest rumors already floating around about the incident.

Detroit police chief: Video shows killing of man by officers was justified shooting

Detroit Police Chief James Craig says video proves officers were justified in fatally shooting a man who fired at a cop's head at close range.

www.freep.com

(Archive 2: Detroit Police Shooting)



The problem normies in Michigan (or other states with similar orders in place) is that they get told social distancing is a misdemeanor charge with a fine attached to it only to see protestors openly ignoring and flouting the same laws with zero legal consequence. The average persons ees this and wonders why they should have to wear a mask when protestors don't have to and aren't facing the same legal consequences with which others have been threatened.


Anyone following this thread regularly probably noticed the slower rate of new posts over the last few days. With the original set of protests largely dwindling down to the die-hards, it seems as if some people wanted another incident to happen that would allow them to start the protest cycle all over again. As we've seen across the country, some people are protesting solely to protest and have little regard for the actual people and victims whose lives have been irreparably changed in a bad way.

It's on Android Oreo as well
Not Kit Kat as far as I can tell

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

The idea was floated around during at least one siege on a fort, and it possibly happened; might have happened a second time, but there is no real strong evidence of it. I have to disagree with you regarding the germ theory thing, that doesn't matter--they knew how smallpox could be transmitted and was contagious. If it did happen, it was not widespread and was not a widespread strategy at all despite what they imply in schools.

The prevailing theory at the time was Miasma theory, where disease was transmitted via bad air or fog carried away from rotting stuff and nasty water. AFAIK, there was no idea of human to human transmission or transmission from human to object that would later come in contact with somebody else.

The problem normies in Michigan (or other states with similar orders in place) is that they get told social distancing is a misdemeanor charge with a fine attached to it only to see protestors openly ignoring and flouting the same laws with zero legal consequence. The average persons ees this and wonders why they should have to wear a mask when protestors don't have to and aren't facing the same legal consequences with which others have been threatened.

People are slowly learning about anarcho-tyranny, even if they don't know it by name.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

The prevailing theory at the time was Miasma theory, where disease was transmitted via bad air or fog carried away from rotting stuff and nasty water. AFAIK, there was no idea of human to human transmission or transmission from human to object that would later come in contact with somebody else.

It (probably) happened, and deliberately; history.com actually has a decent writeup of it--and points out it probably didn't work:

Did Colonists Give Infected Blankets to Native Americans as Biological Warfare?

There’s strong evidence that British colonists in 18th-century America gave Native Americans smallpox-infected blankets at least once—but did it work?

www.history.com

Take note that it was not the American military that did this (NO evidence of that exists) but the British. This was before the USA was a country.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The idea was floated around during at least one siege on a fort, and it possibly happened; might have happened some other times, but there is no real strong evidence of it, and historians jump at the conclusion it happened and might have been widespread for the political narrative (thanks Ward Churchill). I have to disagree with you regarding the germ theory thing, that doesn't matter--they knew how smallpox could be transmitted and was contagious. If it did happen, it was not widespread and was not a widespread strategy at all despite what they imply in schools.

More to the point Smallpox was already endemic to North America before the British showed up. The Spanish made sure of that, accidentally, a century and a half prior to the Brits. Spreading small pox around the North American Tribes would cause outbreaks of no more severity then what would occur in a European settlement. Both would end up having a shitty time, but it would not be the literal end of the world. The Native tribes lost their land due to more direct means. America conquered them with its soldiers and settlers. There was no "biological warfare" component to it in any policy or practice. Why take through deceit what you could just take openly?