Associational network map of the /r/detrans Reddit ecosystem. As you can see, they're swarming with NeoNatsees.
As those of you who have had the misfortunate of encountering the inhuman blackhole of total annihilation, destruction and nothingness that is Penny Oaken aka /u/Bardfinn on Reddit, you know Goth Dad doesn't just go after the more seasoned, experienced moderators who know the ropes. He also deliberately targets small niche subs, like /r/detrans. These smaller subs (like a lot of the TERF subs he recently took down) are usually operated by young women who are relatively inexperienced with sites like Reddit and hence don't know how to respond to an older, experienced mod /u/Bardfinn targets them with his fellow censorthugs from /r/AgainstHateSubreddits using all kinds of technology to aid with these attacks. Some of you who have studied the blackhole from a safe distance might know that Goth Dad is a fan of using
RES to assist him with carrying out these attacks; most /r/detrans users have never even heard of RES, let alone know how to use it. He knows he can overpower and intimidate younger/new users through sheer seniority alone.
Goth Dad and the AHS censorfascists had been gunning for /r/detrans for a long time. Here's an example from 9 months ago:
Here's an excellent example of the /r/GenderCynical mental illness illogic regarding /r/detrans right here:
I don't even get it? Obviously a forum that is supposed to be for people who are no longer transitioning is supposed to be for both detransitioners and trans people who may have doubts so they can engage in conversation with each other.
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If someone is detransitioning (especially if that involves leaving some online SJW cult that was part of their transition) and going back to being cis... wouldn't it make sense for them to be able to communicate with cis people? I know, what an incredible fucking concept, ex trans-people who are trying to be cis honestly wanting to talk to actual cis people. Their cultic thinking clouds their minds so much that any baseline logic is lost.
The only post that was respectful of /r/detrans' right to run their sub however they damn well please got downvoted:
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But... I kind of get their point?
I can’t remember what sub I’m on, so I might get a ban. But it’s a detrans sub, not a trans sub. It’s a subreddit focused on people who have detransitioned for whatever reason. It is absolutely not a sub for trans people who are currently living as their gender and getting operations.
I can understand why they’re pissed off. This is one of the only places to openly discuss detransition and support each other.
Like, I don’t go on parent subs and post about being childfree. Because it’s not applicable. It’s their space. And I’d be pretty pissed off if a parent came into childfree and told us all we’re doing it wrong.
Im not saying all the terfs and radfem views are in any way okay. But not everyone on that sub is a terf, or believes nobody should transition. It’s a valuable support subreddit for people that are suffering intensely due to often serious medical and mental health issues.
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I also find it very interesting that /r/GenderCynical only seem to know about /r/detrans while pretending they are unaware of the fact that /u/Bardfinn's League Troll buddy /u/drewiepoodle is running the competing sub /r/detransition
Because of course they know that /u/drewiepoodle is running the competing sub! Of course they know that Ianna hates having to compete with another sub. The numbers don't lie: /r/detrans has 5000+ members whereas /r/detransition only has 170 members and no engagement at all. Of course /r/detransition are not going to ask themselves why detransitioners avoid them and do not feel comfortable discussing their detransitions in the presence of known censors and partisans (gee, now why would that be? Maybe because people naturally hate censors and feel uncomfortable being truly honest and opening up around them?)
As soon as /r/detrans noticed the TERFs subs getting banned, they knew they were next:
So in case you didn't know yet, Reddit admins announced today that they modified their policies and guidelines to basically redefine and set standards for protecting against more hatespeech. Lists of banned subreddits can be found in various other subreddits.
This banwave was leaked a few days ago though as someone on another forum shared how their relatives in the tech industry were saying that Reddit admins were gonna make massive changes and ban "problematic" subreddits.
I was genuinely afraid this subreddit would be targeted, since it has been accused of "hatespeech" in the past by brigaders and trans activists, and as a lurker and occasional commentor I have admired the bravery of posters and I don't want to see their voices silenced. The subreddit is still here so, so congratulations on not being labeled hatespeech on Reddit. I'm glad they made at least one rational decision with this banwave.
It won't stop me from seriously considering leaving Reddit, but at the very least, I have at least one subreddit left that gives me unbiased info on any of the hot-button issues today.
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LMAO, the detransitioners were also worrying about TERF Reddit refugees going over to their sub:
Ugh just realized all the r/gendercritical refugees are gonna shit this sub up now. Good luck to the mod team
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I just hope people don’t try to use this subreddit to push their own agendas now that GC has been banned.
There’s a lot of GC people who have always flooded this sub and tried to speak for people who are detrans and I’ve never been a fan of it.
I detransitioned because it wasn’t right for me, not because I wanted to push an agenda against people who were happy to transition.
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Of course, if /r/detrans had been browsing KiwiFarms I could've told them that Goth Dad was gunning for them months ago. I guess they thought they were safe from his censorship crusade just because they're trans-adjacent. They need to understand than anyone who isn't an SJW is now considered a fascist and a NeoNatsee too in Goth Dad's crazy feverish mind. He's not going to stop censoring sub now that all the TERF subs are going. He won't stop until /r/detrans is gone.
/r/GCdebatesQT also got scared of getting banned as well and needless to say the inevitable happened:
/r/GenderCritical has been banned by the admins due to violations of the new "hate" policy. We need to create our own backup before the same happens here.
Here are the /r/truscum dumbasses celebrating the banning of /r/GenderCritical with only a few realizing they're next on the chopping block:
Could it be possible that this sub could perish because butthurt tucutes report it and lie and say we're "transphobic"?
Yeah I hate terfs just as much as anyone else here, but I’m really not liking the precedent here.
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Good riddance to most of those... but it's kind of important to note that with the precedent this sets, we're next. We shouldn't necessarily be celebrating this.
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Do these bimbos know that Goth Dad is gunning for them too? I guess they need a reminder. Here's Goth Dad himself openly stating he wants to go after /r/truscum as well:
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God, HRT really does make you stupid I guess.
Anyway, back to the banning and unbanning of /r/detrans.
Here's the AHS censorfascists celebrating the fact that they nuked /r/detrans along with the rest of the TERF subs they took down:
Here's a list of the ones that I can...
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Goth Dad managed to get /r/detrans banned, then tried to hijack their subreddit after the ban, but they've been reinstrated:
They've gone into panic mode, which is exactly what he wants:
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with the constant briggading and the attempts to get detrans banned I am considering creating a guild on ruqqus, I still need to get the 250 rep to create one, but I think now would be a wise time to look onto alternative plateforms, I dont want to see a community thats has helped so many including me die, simply because we arent going with the mainstream trans narrative.
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R/Detrans is a community meant for supporting detransitioners, it is not a platform to soapbox on.
Recently a lot of subreddits have been banned from Reddit and for awhile we were scared that r/detrans was among them. It seemed the ban was a mistake according to the administrators but we are still watching everything right now while discussing a future plan of action.
I understand many are upset about losing the subreddits that were banned but our space is not the space for you to bring that up, or soapbox. It is not the space to make comparisons, or organize attacks on another group either.
This subreddit is intended to give detransitioners a voice, freedom to express themselves and discuss their stories and experiences. It is also a place for those questioning their transition to hear and understand experiences that are normally silenced and not really spoken of in the open. Detransition is a topic that shouldn't be taboo but we are met with hostility and anger because people are told that transition is the first and only solution to gender dysphoric people, when that isn't the case. Our existence, stories and faces show that this is not always the case and many of us wish that the amount of detransitioners is reduced.
This space exists to show that we do exist and transition is not always the best option for someone gender dysphoric and the myth about lack of support is just that, a myth.
Thank you and I request that allies please stay on topic as we will be starting to enforce rule 3 harder.
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"It seemed the ban was a mistake according to the administrators", honey, stop lying to yourself and to your followers. You know it was not a mistake. He and AHS won't stop targeting /r/detrans until it's gone.
We are cracking down on rule 3 enforcement and will be monitoring allies more, if things keep up this subreddit will start to restrict non detrans from posting. There is no point in a space like this existing if there is no freedom of speech toward one's body and experiences. Users being prohibited from letting their frustration out on something that hurt them and their lives helps no one. Detrans people will not be tolerated projecting their experience upon others according to rule 1 but we can only do so much and currently we are being report spammed so it's even harder to see what's an authentic rule break and what isn't.
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"currently we are being report spammed", interesting. That's exactly what happened on /r/GenderCritical the day before they got banned. This is absolutely coordinated by the AHS censorfascists in conspiracy with The League of Extraordinary Trolls.
I went over to Twitter, and there I saw the tweets from the /r/detrans moderators about how they were being flooded with fake moderation requests from the AHS censorfascists brigading their subreddit:
The two Reddit users in that article, BardFinn and DrewiePoodle, have been trying to shutter, seize, and repurpose r/detrans since its creation nearly three years
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1281708670691074048.html BU: http://archive.is/kn5Xl
Mods of r/detrans overrun with fake reports. Abuse of report button is a reportable offense, but admins refuse to respond. And if an actually rule-breaking post goes unmoderated, it's used against mods to ban and acquire the subreddit. #RedditHatesDetransitioners
What a day for my amazing friend Benji/GNC Centric to launch a new podcast about detransitioners — the same day Reddit banned & then promptly un-banned r/detrans. They discuss how the detrans support forum literally saves lives. Watch the whole video here:
Here's one of the /r/detrans mods @AlexAlicit on Twitter talking about the AHS swamping her and the rest of the /r/detrans with the false reports:
We did get notified on r/detrans, it seems like. They're saying our ban was a mistake, and apologize for the inconvenience but.. I don't know, I'm still on edge.
Normally I hate to do crap like this, but I revealed myself. It's clear they're going to try again. We're guarded right now, I'm trying to discuss with the others about what we can do. Everything's stressful rn.
So I've gotten to look at things now, oh. It gets interesting. So apparently Bardfinn tried to claim our subreddit the moment it got banned and we got demodded.
Still dealing with brigading.. but this report just made me facepalm. I guess any detrans research is a hate-crime now too.
They're even reporting positive messages, of detrans people sharing post-detrans selfies. What the heck.
I'm trying to keep us afloat as long as I can but I do fear those over at AHS will succeed on their takeover at some point. We need to keep this space what it's meant for and trans activists don't like that one bit. They've been brigading most the bloody day.
I woke up to this... I wanted to write a god dang policy clarification today!
LIKE COME ON! I dealt with 200 reports, many of which were junk and from before policy change posts yesterday!