WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[Kosher Dill]

is DSP purchasing on Debit now? I can't imagine he can buy anything on credit anymore.

I don't think he was whaling on credit to begin with, because his cards were long since maxed out.
If you check out the charts I posted a while back, he's whaled at a pretty constant rate before, during, and after bankruptcy. If we see a big spike that might indicate he got some new lines of credit, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[WutangLee]

I don't think he was whaling on credit to begin with, because his cards were long since maxed out.
If you check out the charts I posted a while back, he's whaled at a pretty constant rate before, during, and after bankruptcy. If we see a big spike that might indicate he got some new lines of credit, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.

With his account so high level, what's he spending the money on?

 

[Kosher Dill]

With his account so high level, what's he spending the money on?

One of our experts could probably break it down in more detail, but from his steadily increasing roster we know one of the things he's spending on is more pulls.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Plus, if he was using credit, that would mean his tips were going somewhere else. We would probably notice whatever that was.

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

With his account so high level, what's he spending the money on?

The screenshots of the game show where the money goes.

Something like $20 for three chances at unlocking a wrestler. Multiply that by however many chances it actually takes. Multiply that every week when Scopely releases a new wrestler.

$60 for some belts or wigs or whatever the fuck it takes to upgrade your guys. Multiply that for every wrestler you want to max out.

However much a month to keep his VIP status active.

I can only guess how much it costs to unlock and max out an ultra super giga rare wrestler. I can easily see it being $1000 or more.

 

[grump]

The screenshots of the game show where the money goes.

Something like $20 for three chances at unlocking a wrestler. Multiply that by however many chances it actually takes. Multiply that every week when Scopely releases a new wrestler.

$60 for some belts or wigs or whatever the fuck it takes to upgrade your guys. Multiply that for every wrestler you want to max out.

However much a month to keep his VIP status active.

I can only guess how much it costs to unlock and max out an ultra super giga rare wrestler. I can easily see it being $1000 or more.

I really should reconsider my current career. Take the Bar exam and become a lazy ass bankruptcy trustee. Sounds almost as easy as playing video games for 4-6 hrs/day. Plus they get paid very well....like 84k according to google.

 

[WutangLee]

The screenshots of the game show where the money goes.

Something like $20 for three chances at unlocking a wrestler. Multiply that by however many chances it actually takes. Multiply that every week when Scopely releases a new wrestler.

$60 for some belts or wigs or whatever the fuck it takes to upgrade your guys. Multiply that for every wrestler you want to max out.

However much a month to keep his VIP status active.

I can only guess how much it costs to unlock and max out an ultra super giga rare wrestler. I can easily see it being $1000 or more.

I kinda wish SOK was still around. They'd be digging through phil's garbage, and probably given an accurate estimate. But wholy hell, 20$ for THE CHANCE to unlock a wrestler. No wonder they don't just put a pay wall. The gambling mechanic prays on idiots.

 

[Here Comes Mongo]

I kinda wish SOK was still around. They'd be digging through phil's garbage, and probably given an accurate estimate. But wholy hell, 20$ for THE CHANCE to unlock a wrestler. No wonder they don't just put a pay wall. The gambling mechanic prays on idiots.

It preys more on addicts than idiots. Not that the two are necessarily mutually exclusive, but there are plenty of smart people whose gambling addiction is so strong it ruins them. However, they usually ruin themselves gambling in something where you at least have a chance of winning money, not worthless JPEGs that one day will be deleted when Scopely decides to pull the plug on WWE Champions once they get bored of their grift.

 

[WWE Champion]

I kinda wish SOK was still around. They'd be digging through phil's garbage, and probably given an accurate estimate. But wholy hell, 20$ for THE CHANCE to unlock a wrestler. No wonder they don't just put a pay wall. The gambling mechanic prays on idiots.

I played the game till I potentially could join a faction. The amount of money you have to spend to be at phil's level is massive. To start it off, you need the subscription which is kinda the low boundary and costs alone more than i spend yearly on games. Now for the rest, you would have to compare all the screenshots we have of his account with his best wrestlers, the events he participated etc. There are so many options to spend money and so much different stuff needed to level up, it's very hard to calculate because of the intransparency by design. But I'm sure, all the games, consoles, pcs etc. He owns were cheaper than WWE champions.

 

[Satoi]

I really should reconsider my current career. Take the Bar exam and become a lazy ass bankruptcy trustee. Sounds almost as easy as playing video games for 4-6 hrs/day. Plus they get paid very well....like 84k according to google.

And by the way, Nancy agrees with you

 

[TheGoutburglar]

I played the game till I potentially could join a faction. The amount of money you have to spend to be at phil's level is massive. To start it off, you need the subscription which is kinda the low boundary and costs alone more than i spend yearly on games. Now for the rest, you would have to compare all the screenshots we have of his account with his best wrestlers, the events he participated etc. There are so many options to spend money and so much different stuff needed to level up, it's very hard to calculate because of the intransparency by design. But I'm sure, all the games, consoles, pcs etc. He owns were cheaper than WWE champions.

At this point, given who we're dealing with here, I think we can probably safely use a completely different means of calculating the cost: assume every last tip he has gotten since he started whaling out has gone straight into the game. Seriously, no matter how much that amounts to, how much beyond the real number could it possibly be? Phil literally got away with bankruptcy fraud because he has nothing of value, and his interests in this world are very limited.

 

[WutangLee]

At this point, given who we're dealing with here, I think we can probably safely use a completely different means of calculating the cost: assume every last tip he has gotten since he started whaling out has gone straight into the game. Seriously, no matter how much that amounts to, how much beyond the real number could it possibly be? Phil literally got away with bankruptcy fraud because he has nothing of value, and his interests in this world are very limited.

It also helps when everything he owns is a business expense. Why even fucking bother having personal property. I should just set up a business checking account and set up a shell company.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

It also helps when everything he owns is a business expense. Why even fucking bother having personal property. I should just set up a business checking account and set up a shell company.

Sure, if you no shame, like Phil.

 

[WutangLee]

Sure, if you no shame, like Phil.

I don't know if I could look anyone in the face and tell them I beg for money while I play videogames.

 

[Beetus Knuckles]

It also helps when everything he owns is a business expense. Why even fucking bother having personal property. I should just set up a business checking account and set up a shell company.

I know right. I’ve said it before, but Phil has a warped sense of business expenses. I used the example of a plumber. His work truck, maintenance, and insurance is a business expense. His specialized equipment is a legit business expense. If he buys a stock of common fixtures to keep on hand, then that is a business expense. But if his back starts hurting and he buys a $3000 mattress, that’s not a legit business expense. Phil would say it was. “I can;t stream without it dood.” Phil has to be dedicating a significant portion of his income to this game, and then writing it off as a business expense because it is a vidya.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

Phil has to be dedicating a significant portion of his income to this game, and then writing it off as a business expense because it is a vidya.

We'll find out for sure one day. When he pays taxes on the money he made this year, that bill is going to be bigger than ever, because 1) the vest streak has increased his earnings, and 2) the discharge has decreased the amount of money he owes to people per month. On top of that, thanks to number 2, the two biggest expenses will be distilled down to the mortgage on the condo that he actually lives in currently, and those microtransactions. It's going to be really fucking obvious what the amount is on the latter, which means not only do we have proof that he lied about his expenses, but we get a better look at what he spends on gacha per month.

Phil is really going to regret getting that discharge, because even though he skated on debts, them being gone leaves his addiction pretty well exposed.

 

[TheTractor]

I don't know if I could look anyone in the face and tell them I beg for money while I play videogames.

DSP would word this as a ''crowd funded live on-demand content creator"

And he doesn't quite 100% beg for cash, it's more like 20% clear begging and 80% faking financial distress, money shaming his contributors and using reverse psychology to pressure hitting the vest goals.

I'm listenning to his pre stream at work and he just dropped the word ''Nervous'' and ''Taxes'' in the same sentence, hyped for the 20k ''smash the taxes'' event.

 

[Schrödinger's Kat]

At this point, given who we're dealing with here, I think we can probably safely use a completely different means of calculating the cost: assume every last tip he has gotten since he started whaling out has gone straight into the game.

I agree with this.

Phil wants people to just forget the bankruptcy ever happened and he go can back to crying that he has an insane amount of bills to pay, so that he can continue guilt-tripping his fans and begging for money for WWE Champions or whatever else he is blowing his money on. Because he really has no excuse why he needs to much money in tips each day, other than wasting it all on gacha.

Anyone that supports Phil must be willingly supporting his crippling addiction. This guy has no kids, a modest kahndo, one basic Toyota, and no credit card debt (anymore) and acts like $10,000/mo is barely enough to scrape by and he can't even pay his taxes. I'd say 100% of his disposable income goes into this game, including money he should be saving for taxes.

 

[Gramh]

Considering his totally legit perfectly adult business expenses per month were upwards $5k and even the most shrewd skeptic would allow that to be his credit debt and taxes minus a healthy $300 a month in games and internet expenses, he's now free $4700 a month that wasn't going to feeding or clothing him or functioning day to day. This was BEFORE the vest streak, so add any changes to that and he could easily pay his back taxes and tax prep lawyer without blushing just from his business expenses dropping sharply, let alone any personal expenses dropping. I know the Farm's answer for where that money goes, and what DSP's nonanswer of "it's none of your fucking business what i spend my money on, give me your money to make my money so i can tell you to fuck off about what i spend it on!" but I'd love to hear his explanation if he was backed into a corner to actually explain this shit in legitimate terms.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I'd say 100% of his disposable income goes into this game, including money he should be saving for taxes.

This doesn't seem to be the case so far, his accumulation of points has continued at a roughly constant rate.
If I had to guess, I'd say there's only so much you can spend on the game at Phil's level, unless you're intentionally wasting it on things like leveling up worthless wrestlers you'll never use. Most likely he pulls for every new wrestler as they come out, maxes them out if they seem powerful, and that's pretty much it. If you've already got all the musclemen and you're already playing the game all the time, how much more can you spend?

It might be time for us to widen our net a bit and find out where his post-bankruptcy windfalls are going.