Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Kate Farms Shill]

Maybe because the disease can be diagnosed with a blood test, not exactly an "oh just take my word for it" diagnosis.

but muh western blot and igenex tests!

Months ago I started but never finished timelining some family out in California with seven or eight kids, a bunch of boys that got little attention but also three daughters. Homeschoolers, massive Trumpers (IIRC they threw a fancy family dinner with the good china for his birthday every year). Insta account started c. 2015 when they just built a gym in their garage and the first 30 or so posts were mom bragging about her daughters' obsessively exercising, then the youngest started taking dance lessons and she had a whole dance mom saga where she was the clear favorite of the family. Then the oldest got diagnosed with chronic lyme and suddenly all the attention shifted to her, then the middle daughter also started saying she had it and maybe a year ago the youngest was also diagnosed. The girls were showing all kinds of really fake gait abnormalities and tremors, got wheelchairs, and started collecting The Trifecta as well. Almost every post was just pics of them sleeping or watching TV or begging for money for more doctors and treatments. Became kind of obvious that it was a mix of mbp and the girls competing for mom's attention.

Anyway, mom showed off lists of what the girls took and other than occasional token antibiotics it was just massive doses of two or three dozens supplements adding up to 100+ capsules each per day. Some were just like "lol way to make your pee expensive?" but a few of them Dr. Google insists were extremely unsafe at the doses given. Yeah no wonder they feel bad and sleep all day. Someone sent me the link to the family insta but i also can't remember who that was. It wasn't the family who used to claim the kids had schizophrenia and were friends with the Schofield family. I want to say their name was VonBreeman or some variation of that name. So frustrating because I remember naming the file with the name of the insta account but I can't retrieve it.

Google has not helped but I did discover that one of the Olsen twins is a chronic lyme truther. Yeah sure years of the pressure of fame, anorexia, and a diet of cocaine, starbucks, and marlboros aren't why you feel and look like roadkill, it's the lyme.

 

[Moronic Spletonic]

Meanwhile, Autie is going on a hiatus

Spoiler: spoiler cause no1curr

Until next week Autie.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Meanwhile, Autie is going on a hiatus

Spoiler: spoiler cause no1curr

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Until next week Autie.

I will miss her exceptional dancing

 

[Dorsia.Reservation]

but muh western blot and igenex tests!

Months ago I started but never finished timelining some family out in California with seven or eight kids, a bunch of boys that got little attention but also three daughters. Homeschoolers, massive Trumpers (IIRC they threw a fancy family dinner with the good china for his birthday every year). Insta account started c. 2015 when they just built a gym in their garage and the first 30 or so posts were mom bragging about her daughters' obsessively exercising, then the youngest started taking dance lessons and she had a whole dance mom saga where she was the clear favorite of the family. Then the oldest got diagnosed with chronic lyme and suddenly all the attention shifted to her, then the middle daughter also started saying she had it and maybe a year ago the youngest was also diagnosed. The girls were showing all kinds of really fake gait abnormalities and tremors, got wheelchairs, and started collecting The Trifecta as well. Almost every post was just pics of them sleeping or watching TV or begging for money for more doctors and treatments. Became kind of obvious that it was a mix of mbp and the girls competing for mom's attention.

Anyway, mom showed off lists of what the girls took and other than occasional token antibiotics it was just massive doses of two or three dozens supplements adding up to 100+ capsules each per day. Some were just like "lol way to make your pee expensive?" but a few of them Dr. Google insists were extremely unsafe at the doses given. Yeah no wonder they feel bad and sleep all day. Someone sent me the link to the family insta but i also can't remember who that was. It wasn't the family who used to claim the kids had schizophrenia and were friends with the Schofield family. I want to say their name was VonBreeman or some variation of that name. So frustrating because I remember naming the file with the name of the insta account but I can't retrieve it.

Google has not helped but I did discover that one of the Olsen twins is a chronic lyme truther. Yeah sure years of the pressure of fame, anorexia, and a diet of cocaine, starbucks, and marlboros aren't why you feel and look like roadkill, it's the lyme.

These people sound SO familiar!

The supplements these people take are insanity.
Then all the sudden constant nausea, non stop diarrhea and other odd symptoms become part of their lives...totally lyme disease and not the titanic load of questionable supplements y'all keep shoving down your throats.

 

[Unheard Bird]

Who was that eyepatch wearing spoonie that was mentioned in the discord before it got nuked?

 

[PinkDancingDogs]

but muh western blot and igenex tests!

Months ago I started but never finished timelining some family out in California with seven or eight kids, a bunch of boys that got little attention but also three daughters. Homeschoolers, massive Trumpers (IIRC they threw a fancy family dinner with the good china for his birthday every year). Insta account started c. 2015 when they just built a gym in their garage and the first 30 or so posts were mom bragging about her daughters' obsessively exercising, then the youngest started taking dance lessons and she had a whole dance mom saga where she was the clear favorite of the family. Then the oldest got diagnosed with chronic lyme and suddenly all the attention shifted to her, then the middle daughter also started saying she had it and maybe a year ago the youngest was also diagnosed. The girls were showing all kinds of really fake gait abnormalities and tremors, got wheelchairs, and started collecting The Trifecta as well. Almost every post was just pics of them sleeping or watching TV or begging for money for more doctors and treatments. Became kind of obvious that it was a mix of mbp and the girls competing for mom's attention.

Anyway, mom showed off lists of what the girls took and other than occasional token antibiotics it was just massive doses of two or three dozens supplements adding up to 100+ capsules each per day. Some were just like "lol way to make your pee expensive?" but a few of them Dr. Google insists were extremely unsafe at the doses given. Yeah no wonder they feel bad and sleep all day. Someone sent me the link to the family insta but i also can't remember who that was. It wasn't the family who used to claim the kids had schizophrenia and were friends with the Schofield family. I want to say their name was VonBreeman or some variation of that name. So frustrating because I remember naming the file with the name of the insta account but I can't retrieve it.

Google has not helped but I did discover that one of the Olsen twins is a chronic lyme truther. Yeah sure years of the pressure of fame, anorexia, and a diet of cocaine, starbucks, and marlboros aren't why you feel and look like roadkill, it's the lyme.

Was it an IG or facebook? What happened to Tea house of Munch? It vanished from my discord.

eta: googling gofundme lyme homeschool leads to some pretty lolish shit. MY new favorite has "been diagnosed with Late Stage Chronic Lyme and Neurological Lyme Disease and POTS. After battling with Lyme symptoms almost her entire life she was eventually forced to quit working, at which point her family stepped in to help cover the costs of treatment which has been ongoing for almost two years. Foremost in these efforts was her life saving grandmother, dipping into retirement savings to help "

2nd eta: omg, I had forgotten the joys of the lyme people. http://www.fromthispointforward.com/2016/

 

[ManManatee]

2nd eta: omg, I had forgotten the joys of the lyme people. http://www.fromthispointforward.com/2016/

Holy shit....the MTHFR gene mutation literally means NOTHING.

Spoiler: Tiny Powerlevel

I have it, but doesn't affect me at all. Most people don't know they have it and it's pointless to run genetic testing for

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

Holy shit....the MTHFR gene mutation literally means NOTHING.

Spoiler: Tiny Powerlevel

I have it, but doesn't affect me at all. Most people don't know they have it and it's pointless to run genetic testing for

Are... are you telling me ANYONE'S bones with dissolve from starvation and corticosteroid abuse??? No way, these are special princesses. One in a billion!

 

[vapewilder]

(obviously no daily dose will ever be a goddamn handful)

Depends on the doctor. I've known psychiatrists who go nuts for everything a drug rep gives them samples for, and push it on every patient. I once saw someone with simple bipolar who was taking something like 30 pills a day, and included things like Alzheimers medication, thyroid medication (with totally normal thyroid numbers and nothing indicating they needed thyroid meds), Parkinsons meds etc. They felt like shit 200% of the time, and still had active mood disorder symptoms because the quack wasnt treating the disorder properly.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

I should have linked the article Delle Donne wrote with some choice quotes to see if any of it sounds familiar too: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/elena-delle-donne-wnba-season-lyme-disease

Sixty-four pills: That’s 25 before breakfast, another 20 after breakfast, another 10 before dinner, and another 9 before bed.

I take 64 pills a day, and I feel like it’s slowly killing me. Or if it’s not killing me, directly, then I at least know one thing for sure: It’s really bad for me. Longterm, taking that much medicine on that regular of a regimen is just straight-up bad for you. It’s literally an elaborate trick that you play on yourself — a lie that you tell your body so it keeps thinking everything is fine.

I do it anyway because I have Lyme disease. (Since I’m not a doctor, I say I have “chronic Lyme.” It’s a shorter way for me to say that this disease is still affecting me after more than a decade — I prefer it to the alternative, which is “Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome with a current active infection with a different strain of borrelia and bartonella as well as other co-infections.”) Taking 64 pills a day is the only way to keep my condition under any sort of control. It’s the only way to keep myself healthy enough to play the game that I love — healthy enough to do my job and earn the paycheck that supports my family.

Healthy enough to live something approaching a normal life.

I’ve been told time and time again over the years that my condition makes me immunocompromised — that part of what Lyme does is it debilitates my immune system. I’ve had a common cold that sent my immune system spiraling into a serious relapse. I’ve relapsed off of a simple flu shot. There’s just been so many instances where I’ve contracted something that shouldn’t have been that big of a deal, but it blew my immune system out and turned into something scary.

The doctor who treats my Lyme disease wrote up a full report, detailing my medical history and confirming my high-risk status. The Mystics team doctor (who is awesome, but who’s never treated my Lyme disease) wrote a report essentially deferring to my Lyme disease doctor, and agreeing about my high risk profile. I filed both reports to the league, as required, along with a signed form waiving my right to an appeal.

A few days later, the league’s panel of doctors — without ever once speaking to me or to either of my doctors — informed me that they were denying my request for a health exemption.

And then the last thing I wanted to say here — and probably the best lesson I’ve learned through my experience with Lyme disease — is this: There’s so much in the world that we don’t know.

It’s something that I started to think about around when I first started showing symptoms for Lyme. I had these migraines, and these night sweats. I had extreme fatigue and body aches. I felt awful, all the time. But we still had no idea what it was. For a while we had no clue. One doctor would look and think it was one thing, another doctor would look and think it was another thing, and so on. Even when I went to the right doctor, finally, a Lyme-literate doctor, who properly diagnosed me — even then there was still so much that we had no clue about. There were a million different treatments; there was a lot of trial and error; there was a little bit of everything.

And in a weird way, going through that became this sort of realization for me.

I think when you’re younger, and growing up, if you’re relatively healthy, you think of the world as very black and white, very solutions-oriented: When this happens, we do that, and then it’s fixed. Or: When I feel sick, I go to the doctor, and then I get better. That was more or less how I viewed things. But then all of the uncertainty with my Lyme diagnosis happened, and I went on that whole journey….. and it really began to hit me, I guess, just how much is out there that we don’t know.

Now, 12 years into that journey, it’s still hitting me how much we don’t know.

It was kinda frustrating to have clicked through on the story on Twitter and seeing all kinds of blue check mark journalists just repeating all of this stuff about chronic lyme disease non-critically and attacking the league for "not believing her struggle" but I guess that's sports journalism for ya.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Was it an IG or facebook? What happened to Tea house of Munch? It vanished from my discord.

eta: googling gofundme lyme homeschool leads to some pretty lolish shit. MY new favorite has "been diagnosed with Late Stage Chronic Lyme and Neurological Lyme Disease and POTS. After battling with Lyme symptoms almost her entire life she was eventually forced to quit working, at which point her family stepped in to help cover the costs of treatment which has been ongoing for almost two years. Foremost in these efforts was her life saving grandmother, dipping into retirement savings to help "

2nd eta: omg, I had forgotten the joys of the lyme people. http://www.fromthispointforward.com/2016/

Teahouse got disabled by discord sometime around 8 pm (EST) yesterday. We think the person who got her ass handed to her in the intros channel reported us but who knows at this point?

 

[IBrokeBob]

This chronic lyme is bs. Just google 'chronic lyme fraud' and you get tons of scientific publications and the cdc all dismissing it as utter bs. They call out the doctors that treat it as predators because they prey upon munchie morons.

Chronic Lyme disease: A scam that should be condemned!

Reprinted from Médecine et Maladies Infectieuses, 2019 (PDF download) Authors Dr. Marc Gentilini, Infectious and Tropical Diseases, parasitology, public health, National Academy of Medicine, Paris, Fr

lymescience.org

the above website has a lot of articles on doctors who lost their licence because of their quackery, articles on the general fuckery and fraud, plus lots more. I need to deep dive and read up more on this.

i never heard of this elena person before but i instantly disliked her because of her woe is me bullshit. Her handful of pills is nothing more than herbal bs that you buy over the counter or get from your quacky doctor.

 

[MetalParakeet]

Who was that eyepatch wearing spoonie that was mentioned in the discord before it got nuked?

The one that got dog piled?

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

This chronic lyme is bs. Just google 'chronic lyme fraud' and you get tons of scientific publications and the cdc all dismissing it as utter bs. They call out the doctors that treat it as predators because they prey upon munchie morons.

Chronic Lyme disease: A scam that should be condemned!

Reprinted from Médecine et Maladies Infectieuses, 2019 (PDF download) Authors Dr. Marc Gentilini, Infectious and Tropical Diseases, parasitology, public health, National Academy of Medicine, Paris, Fr

lymescience.org

the above website has a lot of articles on doctors who lost their licence because of their quackery, articles on the general fuckery and fraud, plus lots more. I need to deep dive and read up more on this.

i never heard of this elena person before but i instantly disliked her because of her woe is me bullshit. Her handful of pills is nothing more than herbal bs that you buy over the counter or get from your quacky doctor.

Yeah but they'll tell you the CDC is part of the conspiracy to silence people. They point out women are more likely to be diagnosed with chronic lyme but are first brushed off as hysterics, and then bring up the statistic that 900/10 black women die in childbirth because doctors don't treat them the same as they treat other patients or whatever the assorted causes of that are (I don't doubt there's a disparity, I just am not clear on exact causes).

Because that's certainly applicable to a made-up disease that seems to only affect rich white women with eating disorders.

 

[Unheard Bird]

The one that got dog piled?

thats Fiona...the other one was Mika

 

[Kitkatty]

I have it, but doesn't affect me at all. Most people don't know they have it and it's pointless to run genetic testing for

My brother has it, too. When he first got it, it was like he had Super-Mononucleosis for the longest time. Now he has a flare up every few years and gets checked by a rheumatologist regularly for anything abnormal.

 

[FrailQueen]

I've known psychiatrists who go nuts for everything a drug rep gives them samples for

I've definitely come across psychiatrists like that, so sadly I'm aware that's a thing. But what I meant is sometimes the mixture of meds can be a handful, but a whole handful of the same med usually isn't what's taken per day.

They felt like shit 200% of the time, and still had active mood disorder symptoms because the quack wasnt treating the disorder properly.

A bit unrelated, but that's a huge issue entirely on it's own. I had a benzo withdrawal from when a shitty psych took me off my meds cold turkey, 7 years later I'm still having occasional seizures. A lot of people, like young me, are dumb and think "20 meds a day is good and helpful, says the smart doctor man" and don't realize "hmm.. maybe it's the meds making me feel like shit, not my body itself making me feel like shit". Which of course, leads to people thinking there's more wrong with them than there actually is, when in reality they're just really fucking drugged up.

 

[Damien Thorne]

I remember once being in the same ER room with an obvious munchie about a decade ago. I was in a bed next to hers, we were separated by a divider sheet. I was given some sutures on my leg over a sheet metal accident that really looked a lot worse than it turned out to be, and I just wanted to go home. The woman next to me was nice to the nurses and the doctors until one of them came back and told her that they did not find anything abnormal in their tests. The woman responded to that by starting to verbally abuse this doctor until she eventually got escorted off the premises by security - I don’t think calling the doctor a “fucking lying hoe” was a very wise way for her to argue her case. It was annoying to hear all of this, because I was just waiting for my discharge papers for what seemed like an eternity, and I was stuck in the same room with this.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

A bit unrelated, but that's a huge issue entirely on it's own. I had a benzo withdrawal from when a shitty psych took me off my meds cold turkey, 7 years later I'm still having occasional seizures. A lot of people, like young me, are dumb and think "20 meds a day is good and helpful, says the smart doctor man" and don't realize "hmm.. maybe it's the meds making me feel like shit, not my body itself making me feel like shit". Which of course, leads to people thinking there's more wrong with them than there actually is, when in reality they're just really fucking drugged up.

Benzo WDs can lead to permanent brain damage.

I'm tired of explaining the Ashton Manual to my colleagues.

 

[PinkDancingDogs]

Teahouse got disabled by discord sometime around 8 pm (EST) yesterday. We think the person who got her ass handed to her in the intros channel reported us but who knows at this point?

I had planned on avoiding watching golf while visiting my dad by hanging on discord-am a sad, bored bitch now. Shoot me a message if you've got something in particular I can kill time archiving/searching for.

I'd honestly not been looking at the lyme people lately (it'd been more mcas, pots, eds tags I'd look at). It's like revisiting the morgellons people. With lyme, I cannot view the treatments they are paying actual MDs for without getting MOTI.

I did find a family of eight that homeschooled and had lyme, but they were in OH not CA.