Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

Could you link me to this? I browsed the last few pages, but I either can't find it or keep missing it like Daisy Ridley on a cocaine binge.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...ywalker-spoilers.32492/page-1628#post-6900490

NVM Ninja'd.

What was with the Taika Watiti and Leslye Headland announcements then?

Probably something they hope to produce but is on indefinite hold until they can secure more funding, since by announcing it they will at least create some sense of security with investors and shareholders. Scripts might be in the works already though, but they could just as easily just ignore the projects ever existed or move them into animation.

Edit:

so I found this on reddit:

Reddit - saltierthancrait - Fans Hating on Pablo Hidalgo... in 2004!

r/saltierthancrait: Saltier Than Crait is a community for those who are critical of the recent new Star Wars revival from Disney and wish to have intelligent, respectful discourse about it.

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I looked for the endor article that the poster talks about in the relevant issues of insider but can't seem to find it.

does anyone know off chance, what issue or page number this article is on?

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised by this. Hidalgo was the biggest proponent for the Disney purge on SW in 2014 and there were rumors and stories about him and his hate for canon in the old days which I never was sure to believe or not. Guess it was all true and he just put on a guise of conformity for the sake of approval and then Twitter and Disney made him even more of a prick and made him drop his guise. Fucking scumbag.

 

[Uranus Pink]

Deal with animation is to normies unless it is live action it is either non canon or doesn't exist as far they are concerned. Which is just about only legitimate reason Filoni is pushing so hard to get Ahoska and his OCs into Mandalorian and every other possible live action work. Rian Johnson for him going from big screen director to being involved in making "kiddie cartoons" is seen as a huge demotion in prestige.

 

[Itchy Bacca]

Star Wars Insider began as Lucasfilm magazine in Fall 1987 it rebranded as insider beginning with issue 23 in Fall 1994. Hidalgo's first published material was an article in SW adventure Journal 7 which was released August 4 1995. He became ICM for Lucas Online which debuted some time in 1997 until 2011. The forum posts in that link refer to him as the "internet guy meaning the article was most likely written within that timeframe. Furthermore the oldest forum post in that screen shot is dated 12/14/04. The article youre looking for was likely released in an issue of SW insider some time between 1997-2004

I found this post:

Lucasfilm to fans : Fuck You!
Post by Ender » 2004-05-15 11:36am

Anyone read Paublo's little column in the back of the latest Insider yet? He got asked the Ewok-Endor question. And rather then just a simple little blurb stating "It is the official position that Endor survived" or anything, he devots most of it to blasting the fans, titling us "armchair physicists", and stating we come up with "an entertaining degree of consistency" and a couple mor epassive aggressive slams.

Now it was one thing when he pulled this shit on his own during that Executor debate, when he posted in another forum mocking some of those he was arguing with. But now this got signed off by the editors and this is an official statement.

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=45451

The post was made in May of 2004. I looked through the Insider issues around that time, but couldn't find the Endor article that this poster talks about.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

huge demotion in prestige.

And here is one of the reasons that every single Major Franchise has become a dumpster fire.

People aren't hopping into it because they have a good idea, or want to make the best "Movie/Episode of X ever" They want the (((PRESTIGE))) of working on Star Wars, or Star Trek or Doctor Who because they were popular. If these faggots cared about the Franchise they wouldn't care if it were a Cartoon, a Movie..or a 10 Minute Youtube clip.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Hayden is apparently returning. I'm happy for him.

Jake Lloyd's mother posted an update back in February.

https://geeknewsnow.net/index.php/2020/01/29/jake-lloyd-update-statement-from-family/

“We would like to thank everyone for their kind words, their support, and goodwill. Jake has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, but unfortunately he also has a symptom called anosognosia which causes a lack of insight into his illness. This only adds to the struggle he faces, which has been very difficult after the tragic loss of his younger sister, Madison. He has moved closer to his family and we are all working hard to help him with this. He is still a kind and caring person and we hope to have him back to his fun and entertaining self as soon as possible. Jake will continue to make progress with the love and support you continue to show.”

I hope he gets well enough that people welcome him back into the fandom with open arms.

 

[White Devil]

I always thought it was sad and unnecessary the amount of shit Jake Lloyd got for TPM. It was a shitty movie, but blaming and going after a nine year old for it? Fucked up.

 

[BScCollateral]

I always thought it was sad and unnecessary the amount of shit Jake Lloyd got for TPM. It was a shitty movie, but blaming and going after a nine year old for it? Fucked up.

I think the writing, directing and editing of TPM made Sam Motherfuckin' Jackson boring, stilted, and fungible. Blaming Lloyd for the way Kiddie Annakin came across is and was appalling.

 

[White Devil]

I just blame Lucas' direction for shitty performances. He's famous for how vague and unhelpful his directing style is. I didn't think Hayden Christensen was that bad honestly though I do think him and Natalie Portman had zero chemistry.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

I found this post:



The post was made in May of 2004. I looked through the Insider issues around that time, but couldn't find the Endor article that this poster talks about.

Ah he’s referring to the Endor Holocaust. According to Wookieepedia Pablo addressed the Endor Holocaust in SW Insider 76

 

[Getting tard comed]

I just blame Lucas' direction for shitty performances. He's famous for how vague and unhelpful his directing style is. I didn't think Hayden Christensen was that bad honestly though I do think him and Natalie Portman had zero chemistry.

Hot take: Hayden Christensen in Attack of the Clones gave a pretty good performance in doing exactly what he was asked to do.

The biggest problem affecting the prequels is the original trilogy. Everybody when they came out, and even now, looks at the saga as 4,5,6 then 1,2,3 which gives you a bunch of ideas and impressions about the overall story which in turn impacts how you view 1,2,3.

If you don't know that Anakin becomes Darth Vader there is nothing "wrong" with his portrayal in TPM or AotC. It's only when you look at it from the lense of "This is who becomes the baddest man in the galaxy" that there are issues(subjective imo) with them. We could fault Lucas for releasing them out of order but I think overtime when peoples current biases based in, what I believe to be the order in which they've seen them, fade away the issues people have with Anakin will fade away too.

George Lucas didn't intend for Vader to be a lionized badass and tbh I'm not sure how he gained that reputation from the movies. In ANH he's the right hand man but not much more than an enforcer. Admittedly in Empire he is a badass, but in RotJ he suffers the same thing that Davy Jones does in World's End. In fleshing out the character they lose their edge and become more vulnerable. Doesnt make Vader any less of a good character, just not a badass.


Also, people like to complain about the stilted romance dialogue between Ani and Padme, but I direct you to Twilight and consider that AotC is the most popular SW movie among teenage girls. That doesn't mean it's good mind you, but there may have been a reason for it.

 

[HandsomeDan]

She was always portrayed as competent with the ability to command, just unlucky.

She was the Emperor's lover correct? I remember reading that book as a child, the cover image of the wrecked Falcon and female Imperial Officer was shocking to me, I had to read it. I think the book made it clear she was the only female and sexual favors is how she became Admiral, if I remember correctly.

 

[White Devil]

She was the Emperor's lover correct? I remember reading that book as a child, the cover image of the wrecked Falcon and female Imperial Officer was shocking to me, I had to read it. I think the book made it clear she was the only female and sexual favors is how she became Admiral, if I remember correctly.

Isard was the Emperor's lover. Daala was Tarkin's bed warmer.

 

[HandsomeDan]

Isard was the Emperor's lover. Daala was Tarkin's bed warmer.

Ok, now I remember Isard was the X-Wing novels correct?

...but...but...I thought Tarkin was gay according to nuwars...

 

[White Devil]

Ok, now I remember Isard was the X-Wing novels correct?

...but...but...I thought Tarkin was gay according to nuwars...

Yeah, Isard was the main antagonist of the X-wing series. I've read exactly zero of Disney Wars so I can't comment on whatever dogshit atrocities they do to characters. Daala was certainly Tarkin's lover though.

 

[Jones McCann]

The biggest problem affecting the prequels is the original trilogy

Terrible writing is the problem affecting the prequels. Horrible, god awful writing. Nothing makes sense, dialogue is retarded, no protagonist, etc.

I direct you to Twilight and consider that AotC is the most popular SW movie among teenage girls

Says who? Are you saying teenage girls from today? The came out in the early 2000s, I doubt people born in that year have seen it. I'd imagine they'd like any of the new trilogy since those are at least competently made, devoid of artistic expression and soul they may be.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Terrible writing is the problem affecting the prequels. Horrible, god awful writing. Nothing makes sense, dialogue is retarded, no protagonist, etc.



Says who? Are you saying teenage girls from today? The came out in the early 2000s, I doubt people born in that year have seen it. I'd imagine they'd like any of the new trilogy since those are at least competently made, devoid of artistic expression and soul they may be.

I mean... the prequels aren't horribly written. Anakin's fall makes sense, his motivations why and the events leading up to it make sense. Palpatines ascent and victory make sense. The jedi order's fall makes sense. The co-opting of the republic into the empire makes too much sense. The dialogue, for the most part, is fine. The prequels have a protagonist. Even if they didn't a story doesn't need to have a protagonist to be considered well written.


Teenage girls at the time it came out. And if you showed it to teenage girls now(13-17) I doubt that ranking would change. The romance between Padme and Ani was done better than w/e bullshit Disney attempted with Rey and Kylo and that was eaten up by the demographic we are talking about.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Yeah, Isard was the main antagonist of the X-wing series. I've read exactly zero of Disney Wars so I can't comment on whatever dogshit atrocities they do to characters. Daala was certainly Tarkin's lover though.

Fortuantely Isard and Daala have been spared though Isards dad did briefly appear in the novel Tarkin (Which was more or less an EU booked reworked at the last minute to be disney canon anyways)

 

[Imperial Citizen]

I mean... the prequels aren't horribly written. Anakin's fall makes sense, his motivations why and the events leading up to it make sense. Palpatines ascent and victory make sense. The jedi order's fall makes sense. The co-opting of the republic into the empire makes too much sense. The dialogue, for the most part, is fine. The prequels have a protagonist. Even if they didn't a story doesn't need to have a protagonist to be considered well written.


Teenage girls at the time it came out. And if you showed it to teenage girls now(13-17) I doubt that ranking would change. The romance between Padme and Ani was done better than w/e bullshit Disney attempted with Rey and Kylo and that was eaten up by the demographic we are talking about.

I feel that the prequels would have been better if they explained why the Trade Federation blockaded Naboo. The EU explains that the blockade was in response to legislation that Palpatine created that was intended to curb the power of the Trade Federation.

A line from Palpatine like: “I knew that as soon as my legislation to reduce the influence of the Trade Federation in the Republic passed, they would punish me in some way. But I never expected them to flout the principles of the Republic and hold my homeworld’s people hostage.” would clear up why the Trade Federation did what they did, show the weakness of the Republic, and highlight how Palpatine was manipulating everyone.

 

[Jones McCann]

I mean... the prequels aren't horribly written. Anakin's fall makes sense, his motivations why and the events leading up to it make sense. Palpatines ascent and victory make sense. The jedi order's fall makes sense. The co-opting of the republic into the empire makes too much sense. The dialogue, for the most part, is fine. The prequels have a protagonist. Even if they didn't a story doesn't need to have a protagonist to be considered well written.


Teenage girls at the time it came out. And if you showed it to teenage girls now(13-17) I doubt that ranking would change. The romance between Padme and Ani was done better than w/e bullshit Disney attempted with Rey and Kylo and that was eaten up by the demographic we are talking about.

It failed in too many ways to explain. For one the characters are completely without character at all, they're just bland boring people with no personality. Compared to the original trilogy where each character shined in different ways and had amazing chemistry between each other. The story makes absolutely no sense because it wasn't explained. There's no explanation of why the Trade Federation is doing what they're doing and why they're working with Palpatine in the first place. Having no motivation for actions are a great way to make people not care about the characters. The actors are completely fucking boring, no chemistry between anyone and the lines are delivered so horribly and monotone throughout the films. There is no protagonist, once again. You can't point to a single character and call them the focal point of the film, like you can in 99.9% of films. A movie doesn't need to have a protagonist, but that's a far cry from saying George actually intended this to be the case. I just think he's bad at his job. Padme's and Anakin's romance is the most forced romance in the history of movies. Anakin's descent into the dark side is horribly done and rushed. Anakin and Obi-wan's relationship is never shown at all.

edit: I should point out there's some good parts of the movies. The casting (with the exception of a few) is fantastic, Ewan Mcgregor was the absolute best choice for the movie and just imagine if it was done by a competent writer and director. Ian McDiarmid is also wonderful. It's also worth saying this trilogy was better than the new trilogy, but they both failed in completely opposite ways. While the Lucas trilogy had an overarching story it wanted to tell it failed when it came to writing and directing. The new trilogy had no story it wanted to tell but did have competent people making them. They're both horrible but I'd take Lucas's vision to the soulless fucks at Disney any day of the week.

 

[Ghostse]

I always thought it was sad and unnecessary the amount of shit Jake Lloyd got for TPM. It was a shitty movie, but blaming and going after a nine year old for it? Fucked up.

I think a fair bit of the hate was done with the usual intention of assuming he'd never see/never know with usual internet bluster.
I'll make brutal fun of Daisy Ridley all day for having the acting talent and tits of a plank of wood because she'll never know or likely care what notorious unknown shitposter and star wars nerd Ghostse P. Johnson wrote on the internet. If actually face to face with her, I'd probably be more interested in getting her to dish about just how big of a weeping anus Rian Johnson is. She didn't write or direct the piece of shit, she just got a paycheck and parroted the Social Justice talking points.
(Now, Ruin I'd actually probably lay into if given the chance being TLJ was his fucking fault)

Anyone with common sense and five seconds of thought would realize that Jake didn't write the lines, he just read them, and Lucas picked the kid and directed him, so he gave the performance Lucas wanted. But, regardless of if you liked them or not, the Prequels and TPM especially did not live up to the hype, and hating on anything related to it was a popular past time.
It was really sad that shit actually affected his life.

I just blame Lucas' direction for shitty performances. He's famous for how vague and unhelpful his directing style is. I didn't think Hayden Christensen was that bad honestly though I do think him and Natalie Portman had zero chemistry.

Agreed. I thought he was good as Anakin esp. in Ep 3. He and Portman just had absolutely no fucking chemistry - part of that was 'intentional' where they were supposed to be resisting their attraction and I think that came out a little too strongly due to direction and script.