U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Fliddaroonie]

Foreign BLM news (or "news"): clearly inspired by recent police and BLM related events in the United States, two researchers at the sociology of law department at Lund university in Sweden propose that the Swedish police gets heavily defunded and that the focus should instead lie on developing "local initiatives where the citizens partake and mediate in [legal] conflicts" (in other words, kangaroo courts) http://archive.md/Dsd06

I'm sure the rapefugees would love that, they can carry on fucking the indigineous population to death and face ever fewer consequences. Thing is, Sweden is entirely so fucking cucked they'll probably go down this route. Hooray.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Germany didn't have the means to invade the UK - an afternoon's sail away - never mind Japan invading the US.

If the Alaska territory does count as US soil, then technically the Japanese did in fact invade the US.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

If the Alaska territory does count as US soil, then technically the Japanese did in fact invade the US.

That's like saying Germany invaded England when it occupied the Channel Islands.

 

[TitusOvid]

To the surprise of no one, Reddit is absolutely seething over the Portland thing. These dumbfucks don't realize that Federal Buildings are under Federal Jurisdiction.

So they want the Feds out and they want the local police defunded. They keep fucking escalating the rhetoric, and they also think that the National Guard weekend warrior types will totally side against Federal LEOs.

They are pushing for civil war because some antifa sped got arrested.

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And, someone is asking to get partyvanned. Nuclear response against the Feds? Really?

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The founding fathers and America are cancelled for failing to live up to their woke standards but they are always entitled to the benefits of what the founding fathers and America established. Socialists are such spoiled brats.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

That's like saying Germany invaded England when it occupied the Channel Islands.

The Channel islands and also the Isle of Man are Crown Dependencies they are possessions of the Crown ( territories which are under the sovereignty of the British Crown but is not part of the UK. ) basically it's private property of the Queen or back then her father the King. The Isle of Man is also a Crown Dependancy.
Therefore, no, Germany never occupied any part of the UK, all we did is anger the King because we took away a part of his private property, it was more or less a military form of domain squatting.

 

[Cycleye]

Germany didn't have the means to invade the UK - an afternoon's sail away - never mind Japan invading the US.

At the time of Operation Sealion i beleive the germans had the means. They prepared to do it, but pulled the plug. If the lay of the land had been different i.e france not facing the most heavily populated and defended part of the mainland which was set between the cliffs at Dover and the west country bottleneck, france and holland facing the heavily defended coast north and south of the Thames estuary, aswell as the thames itself, it only left the Norfolk and suffolk coast. Again; not an easy coast to attack due to defenses, tides and, in parts, shifting sands.

I'm sure the rapefugees would love that, they can carry on fucking the indigineous population to death and face ever fewer consequences. Thing is, Sweden is entirely so fucking cucked they'll probably go down this route. Hooray.

It probably would work if there were no immigrants apart from other scandos. With the trash that have moved in to the big cities it will be a fucking disaster because the society and cops are just too bloody #bekind.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

At the time of Operation Sealion i beleive the germans had the means. They prepared to do it, but pulled the plug. If the lay of the land had been different i.e france not facing the most heavily populated and defended part of the mainland which was set between the cliffs at Dover and the west country bottleneck, france and holland facing the heavily defended coast north and south of the Thames estuary, aswell as the thames itself, it only left the Norfolk and suffolk coast. Again; not an easy coast to attack due to defenses, tides and, in parts, shifting sands.

We never had the Air superiority nor the naval power to cover such an undertaking. The Royal Navy would have brought every swimming unit short of HMS Victory and would have made a last stand and the British Army and the Royal Air Force would have too.
Sealion was never a viable option and would have ended in a disaster similar to the British operation at Dieppe just in a way bigger scale.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The Channel islands and also the Isle of Man are Crown Dependencies they are possessions of the Crown ( territories which are under the sovereignty of the British Crown but is not part of the UK. ) basically it's private property of the Queen or back then her father the King. The Isle of Man is also a Crown Dependancy.
Therefore, no, Germany never occupied any part of the UK, all we did is anger the King because we took away a part of his private property, it was more or less a military form of domain squatting.

Well the Aleutians are a sparsely populated small island chain off the coast of mainland Alaska (and North America) of a territory that was not a US State at the time. So while not exactly the same, very similar and thus comparable to the Channel Islands.

 

[Allakazam223]

And my knife.
Sometimes the hole on the spray can isn't big enough so I have to cut it open.

And my axe!

...Wait, wrong LARP.

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Well the Aleutians are a sparsely populated small island chain off the coast of mainland Alaska (and North America) of a territory that was not a US State at the time. So while not exactly the same, very similar and thus comparable to the Channel Islands.

That's why I said "technically" to begin with.
But tbh, if the Japanese Navy would have had someone like Großadmiral Doenitz and would have released their submarines against the allied merchant convoys like the Kriegsmarine did, they would have had more success in hindering the allied efforts then by wasting men and materiel for a useless invation of islands in Alaska.

 

[MrJokerRager]

To the surprise of no one, Reddit is absolutely seething over the Portland thing. These dumbfucks don't realize that Federal Buildings are under Federal Jurisdiction.

So they want the Feds out and they want the local police defunded. They keep fucking escalating the rhetoric, and they also think that the National Guard weekend warrior types will totally side against Federal LEOs.

They are pushing for civil war because some antifa sped got arrested.

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And, someone is asking to get partyvanned. Nuclear response against the Feds? Really?

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Reddit.....

Your first and only mistake was reading Reddit. Real OGs go on the chans to announce their intentions of terrorism.

 

[ErrForceOnez]

These people really hate Andy Ngo, but it's because they are terrified of being identified, even though every major media company and every major corporation is on their side in the faggy culture war.

Twitter

This one is calling for help from turbo faggot vaush to ask daddy Twitter to ban the scary minority man

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

 

[Garm]

I know Americans are ignorant of other countries histories, laws and all that, but why are they so ignorant of their own laws?
Is nothing taught in schools? I don't mean college either, I literally mean high school. It's weird, in other countries we learned about important issues and laws specific to relevant geopolitical areas. In high school. We went over the constitution, basic american civil law, its history and the history of important civil rights events.

This is all besides the fact that they aren't secret police. Nor is using the feds some verboten action. You go nuclear, you'll be treated like any other terrorist, Ryan, you cock goblin.

BTW, Ryan's Reddit is a fucking blast https://archive.vn/KgP7j he gets into "Toxic Masculinity" in one of the first posts.

We had a class called "Civics". The idea being it would teach the constitution, history of the constitution and the bill of rights. I do remember the "Magna Carta" being discussed.

I also remember a black student... rambling on about something she saw on an episode of "Law and Order." She wanted the teachers opinion on the issue presented in the episode.

Then "No Child Left Behind" unended the cart by making everything about tests instead of understanding because that fucker that slept through every fucking class is going to bring the whole school down with him.

And "polite" society dictates that politics is to be avoided at the dinner table and holidays lest we have uncomfortable encounters.

The average American winds up with a hodge podge of civic knowledge from school, pop media and urban legends as well as an aversion to politics because no one wants to be the one that ruined Christmas.

Americans need to learn how to communicate better regarding politics because our naturally straight forward way of talking winds up off putting when people disagree.

 

[Syaoran Li]

truth.
all my earlier speculation and hypotheticals about how china could possible pull off an invasion of mainland USA was just that: speculation, thought experiments. realistically there is no way to do it.
the other way round though? similar level of impossible. america would have an easier time gaining naval and aerial control, and establishing the logistics necessary to put an invasion force into mainland china, but actually winning and occupying china would be unfeasible. country too big, enemy forces too large, way too many people to easily subjugate.

if war ever broke out, i think it would be 99% limited to international waters and occasionally chinese territorial waters. establishing naval control to block off any and all shipping to and from chinese ports would be relatively easy for america, and it would result in catastrophic economic collapse for china because of how extremely dependent they are on foreign trade to meet even their basic needs.
as a side effect, it would also blow up nearly the entire global economy, including americas economy, and everybody involved knows this, hence such a war is extremely unlikely to ever break out.

This.

If we ever got into a war with China, it'd be a mix of strict naval and aerial blockades to starve out the PRC and maybe a few battles between the US Navy and the PLA Navy as China attempts to use their missiles and whatever naval assets they have to disrupt the blockade.

We'd also do a total embargo on China like we did to Cuba and North Korea, and that would crash the world economy but if things have gotten so bad that we're doing embargos and naval blockades, then chances are the world economy is already bad off to begin with.

Economically, the United States would be in a unique position where we'd take a massive hit in the short-term but could probably rebuild and reshore enough to make a proper recovery once everything had blown over while China's own government would collapse in on itself and a new warlord period would likely begin.

I don't see us doing an invasion of mainland China. At most, we could send Marines and Army to liberate Hong Kong and that would be in an absolute worst-case scenario.

I sort of had my own "What if?" scenario on how China would try to invade the US militarily and why they would even consider the option.

Spoiler: Autistic Ramblings

For this hypothetical scenario, assume Trump has managed to win the 2020 election but has done so just barely. Biden may or may not win the popular vote, but it's a close election either way and Trump hasn't had the time to ramp up and tighten the Chinese trade sanctions enough to prevent importing Chinese goods.

This would be either winter of 2020-2021 or Spring of 2020, and Xi Jinping knows he has to act fast and prove the strength of the PRC in the post-Corona landscape, so he decides to launch a covert invasion and attack on the United States as a show of force and to get the US to negotiate and revoke any economic restrictions. Xi has already become the de facto sole ruler of China and sidelined the Politburo IRL, so it's possible he'd be foolhardy enough to attempt this plan.

I do think if China was foolhardy enough to try and invade the United States, they'd try to pull a Red Dawn and send in the initial invading force and supplies via large civilian cargo ships and commercial airliners and cargo planes and more or less do a sneak attack on the West Coast and they would not be openly aggressive in their rhetoric towards the US (at least not more than usual) as they launch this big initial force.

This would end badly even if the force hits really hard and really fast, As soon as the big attack begins, the military would step in and cut off any attempts at a resupply or support. Martial law will be declared and the military will step in,

At best, the initial invading force could take control of the coastal cities if the left-leaning governors refuse to send in the National Guard or declare a state emergency.

I have no doubt that a lot of the left-wing politicians in the state and city levels would go full Vidkun Quisling and help this initial invasion force and declare their support for China if the initial PLA force acts quickly enough and hits hard enough in the initial landing phase,.

Some of your more "hardcore" Antifa types in Portland and the Bay Area may try to join the PLA expedition as a support force and at best, the commanders may let them in as cannon fodder once they realize that resupply from China isn't going to happen.

Any Antifa and BLM involvement would basically be to serve as cannon fodder for the PLA's limited force, trying to offset iron with more blood. Antifa would be like the Volkssturm but as an offensive force as opposed to a defensive one.

Trump will not bow to China and negotiate (and an invasion would basically give him a mandate to go medieval on the PRC and anyone actively supporting them) and once martial law is put into effect, the National Guard in these deep blue West Coast states are activated.

This is pretty much a Hollywood scenario at best, but at the same time if China was really that desperate or arrogant enough to think they could fully conquer the US since they have so much corporate support, this would be the most likely way to do an invasion. And it would fail worse than Napoleon's invasion of Russia.

The only way it would even happen is if Xi Jinping had fully sidelined the Beijing Politburo (and he pretty much has) and was also convinced that he could scare the US into submission via a military invasion since he's already got so much support from Silicon Valley and the big media companies as well as corporate Democrats.

And it would end badly and more or less make the Chinese Communist Party lose the Mandate of Heaven. Xi Jinping is not stupid and he knows this. So he won't actually do any active attack on US soil IRL.

 

[Roybertitos]

So rate me late, but I've seen this idea floated around elsewhere about the antifa who are allegedly getting vanned by the feds. The theory is that those people are informants who are being extracted for questioning, but they have to make it look like an arrest to not blow their cover. On the surface it kinda makes sense, what does everyone else think?

 

[DeagleNationRefugee]

So rate me late, but I've seen this idea floated around elsewhere about the antifa who are allegedly getting vanned by the feds. The theory is that those people are informants who are being extracted for questioning, but they have to make it look like an arrest to not blow their cover. On the surface it kinda makes sense, what does everyone else think?

I'm willing to bet that some are, but they are probably making arrests mostly.

 

[Moguro Fukuzou]

To the surprise of no one, Reddit is absolutely seething over the Portland thing. These dumbfucks don't realize that Federal Buildings are under Federal Jurisdiction.

So they want the Feds out and they want the local police defunded. They keep fucking escalating the rhetoric, and they also think that the National Guard weekend warrior types will totally side against Federal LEOs.

They are pushing for civil war because some antifa sped got arrested.

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And, someone is asking to get partyvanned. Nuclear response against the Feds? Really?

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What do they not get about "Don't fuck with Federal shit" and the enforcement of that message? If the federal government did nothing to people defacing their buildings and attacking their agents like the local governments have it would instill the message that the federal government isn't that big of a deal. Therefore, when there's situations like this they have to take it seriously so people think twice about fucking with the federal government both domestically and internationally. Literally "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" since they're not just running up and arresting random citizens out for a jog. In the cities where the local government have completely caved to the rioters and let them do whatever they want their illusion of power is broken. Who in those areas would believe their local government after this? People like leadership that shows strength, those that don't bow to rioters/terrorists, because it gives a sense of security that they will be protected from harm should it come. In the areas where people are fleeing from the city there is no sense of security because their local government is constantly caving to ridiculous demands.

This is basic level shit, I can't believe reddit doesn't get that. You don't even have to be American and knowing of the inner workings of the government to understand this concept. It's also why I'm always baffled at people complaining about getting a visit from the fbi and how it's "chilling" silencing by evil orange man and his police state. Yet, when you see what they post it's littered with death threats and calls for violence against the president of the united states. Did they not expect to be investigated to see if those threats were legitimate?

And "polite" society dictates that politics is to be avoided at the dinner table and holidays lest we have uncomfortable encounters.

During family gatherings my grandfather intentionally will bring up politics, start a large heated debate among relatives, and then walk away once it becomes self sustaining. It happens so often that I just think he gets enjoyment out of it, laying out some spicy bait and waiting for someone to get hooked. He's great at wording things in a way that is guaranteed to set off the more liberally-minded relatives and I too get great enjoyment seeing him "go fishing" as it were.

I've noticed that after Trump, family gatherings have been chalk full of TDS circlejerks that are boring to listen to unless my grandfather is there to add some "spice" to the discussion.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Anyone know which unit are doing the arrests as someone I believe a screenshot of the unit description here from the official DHS website.

 

[Allakazam223]

I did see awhile back that the PLA doesn't even issue body armor to troops as "it hurts the fighting spirit" not to mention that how much of their equipment is hopelessy antiquated. I sincerely wonder if a war with china does happen how many dp28's and lewis guns would be in service.

Edit: PLA did not used to use body armor and usually do only for small scale from what I can find. so good luck to the conscripts. They made a purchase earlier this year for 1.4 millions sets of armor though. https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/pla-to-get-major-body-armor-boost/
Interesting look to the armor, reminds me of some halfbreed IBA and russian webbing.

Holy shit, is that the toughest looking one they could find in the first pic?Looks like a angst riddled 13 year old that found their dads Reserves kit.