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I found this people ignoring. Oh no my neighbors have different opinions. This is offer, i can't possibly be friends with them.
Well, when supporting the current president is constantly being manufactured by the media into being a sign of legitimate moral and mental deficiency...

Also, what the fuck does "I found this people ignoring" mean?
 
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Well, when supporting the current president is constantly being manufactured by the media into a sign of legitimate moral and mental deficiency...

Also, what the fuck does "I found this people ignoring" mean?
It means. I can't stand people who are like "Oh my God my best friend is a Trump Surpporter and a Republican, I can't be friends with him anymore" those who make a big deal out of people who have different opinions. Those people
 
Well pay attention then you retard, because their uniform patches are clearly visible in the videos and the CBP already "took credit" for the arrest. Do they have to get a megaphone and a neon sign before people like this know what branch they're dealing with?

Thanks for the good laugh though, local Twitter dipshit. "The Feds aren't listening to what the Governor is demanding! This is terrorism!" Man, they really, really don't teach civics classes in school anymore, do they.
They tend to cram it in at 7th grade, which is a nightmare of a shitfuck salad of whatever ideas they can't cram between 6th grade (geographic terms and ancient civilizations), and 8th grade (American history that almost never busts past the Civil War due to the lack of time). 7th is mostly a mix of civic shit, citizenship info, and whatever dross they have left. It USED to cover European history to a degree and lead to a continuity between the two grades, but fuck that shit.

By the by, thank Obeme for making what they even learn more of a shitshow, because Common Core foisted a lot of the LA work on Social Studies because how fucking dare parents step in and not be shit. How dare they not make sure their kids fucking read and practice at home. Thanks to that bullshit, even more got glossed over because now they have to basically teach English now.
 
Correct. If you are arrested and start shouting "I killed Epstein! Prince Andrew paid me through Hilary Clinton to do it!", that statement is inadmissible in court until you are mirandized. That doesn't stop them from arresting you for the crime.

No, "Spontaneous Statements" are admissible under Miranda.

If you shouted all that while being cuffed WITHOUT the officers asking anything, it's not protected. If you get arrested, but not Mirandaized, and shoot your mouth off in the backseat of the cop car all the way to booking, anything you said is not protected because you weren't being questioned.

But you are correct that the legality of an arrest is based on probable cause, not if you are Mirandized. Thanks to TV and the fact most people don't ever get arrested and sent to court, the concept of what Miranda is and is not is one of THE most misunderstood things out there.

Miranda only covers statements made while being interrogated while in custody. It's never done at the point-of-arrest like on TV because the cops don't HAVE to question you to arrest you, they've already made up their minds you did something and don't have to hear you deny it.

If you aren't arrested, or detained in a way where a reasonable person would assume it's an arrest, your statements aren't protected. If you're talking to an officer at the scene of a crime, or an investigating detective who shows up on your front porch, and you accidentally let slip something you didn't want to, you can't claim Miranda. This is why cops will talk to suspects several times before arrest, or ask "can you come down to the station and talk to us?" to see if they'll "volunteer" information that can't later be called back with "Well, I didn't mean to incriminate myself like that" because they technically weren't under arrest (no detainment).

Even sitting in the interview room at the precinct doesn't invoke it if you are free to get up and leave at any time. Where it gets dicey is when you ask to leave, and the police say "Well, you really should stay and clear this all up" coerce a person to stay too much and it becomes a case of "Now they THINK they've been detained/arrested so Miranda kicks in" It's why they tend not to give a suspect a concrete "No" answer when they ask "am I under arrest", it's something grey like "not yet" or "Why, should you be?" They want them to stay on their own volition and keep talking, but know that saying "no" means the perp will probably walk out the door.

Also, Miranda only covers statements, not physical evidence.

Whether or not your were Mirandized is irrelevant when the cops collect evidence that was not uncovered during an interrogation. I.E. - They may not be able to bring up a confession, but, in just searching the crime scene, if they turn up your fingerprints, or shell casings that match a gun you own, or video footage of your car leaving the scene, you can't have that thrown out because they didn't read you your rights after they arrested you and demanded "Did you do it?" and you said "Yeah, but I had a reason"

Your confession may be out, but, not any of that other evidence. Most investigations conclude without it ever being administered at all, except as a final step before prosecution to see if they can get a confession by sitting you down, putting the pile of evidence on the table, Mirandizing you formally, including signing the papers, and then saying "Wanna confess? You might get a plea instead of a long jail term, cuz' that's what all this shit is going to get you"

There are also exceptions where even if you should have been Mirandized, but weren't, your statements are still admissible. These are the "public safety" and "inevitable discovery" rules.

Public safety means that when the, well, public safety, is at risk it's unreasonable to have to spend time reading rights. Like, if you are seen walking into a grocery store with a sawed-off shotgun, the cops run in, knock you to the ground, cuff you, and, seeing the gun isn't on you ask "Where'd you toss the fucking gun?" If you say "in the bananas" , well, technically you just confessed during interrogation while in custody, without Miranda. So the statement and gun can't be used against you and you go free, right? Not quite.

The law is not STUPID and courts know it's totally reasonable for the police to assume a possibly-loaded gun loose in public is a danger, so you can't claim Miranda when the officers are only acting to secure the immediate danger. (and even if the court rules your statement protected, the cops can then move to "inevitable discovery")

Which is, if it can be proven that reasonable investigation independent of any statement you gave would have turned up the evidence anyway, then the evidence is okay to admit (bypassing the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree doctrine: evidence obtained from improper interrogation is not admissible)

So, they could argue that if they'd just swept the store, they'd have found the gun anyway, so, the shotgun and any say, fingerprints on it, are admissible, even if they can't say "He told us where it was so he must have put it there" because that was an un-Mirandized statement given after arrest. They can then just say "A routine search of the store found a sawed-off shotgun in the banana bin, and it had his prints on the barrel and grip, no one else could have put it there, and a stocker or shopper would have obviously found it had it been there longer than the time the suspect was in the store."

Are they sure they want to play it this way? Antifa is not a recognized national military and has conducted numerous assaults against U.S. persons and property.

If they wear an identifiable symbol/color/uniform, even as simple as an armband, they'd count as combatants and be protected. One could argue black shirts, red banners, ANTIFA stickers and masks count, everyone knows you don't wear those to a "protest" unless you want to start shit and have a chance at hiding in the crowd. But that just means no summary executions, shooting them if they surrender, and no torture, not that you can't shoot them if they fire on you. That is if Geneva applied, and it doesn't in government-on-citizen.
 
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Ken Cuccinelli mentions he'll be defending federal facilities not just in Portland, but nationwide.

Well, we are – we welcome – the more investigations, the better. With as much lawbreaking is going on, we’re seeking to prosecute as many people as are breaking the law as it relates to federal jurisdiction. That’s not always happening with respect to local jurisdiction and local offenses. But, you know, this is a posture we intend to continue not just in Portland but in any of the facilities that we’re responsible for around the country.


While it's the same old bullshit, it's still funny to me seeing the interviewer bringing up the idea that there are have fewer police records of incidences in recently in comparison to past years, ignoring how the police simply don't enforce the law against the rioters so they wouldn't generate records of crimes. Hopefully the leftists in Portland and others places try playing their usual dumbass games with the feds and get thrown in prison for it.
 
>"Reeeee the President isn't listening to the local elected officials!"

Yeah that whole "local autonomy" thing was sort of dead the moment the Union won the Civil War, which is apparently supposed to be a good thing. One of the most hilarious things about the last four years is watching all these far-left dipshits suddenly discover they like the concept of states' rights and local over federal... and one of the most depressing things is knowing it's surface deep only and the second a Democrat's back in the White House the Fed will go back to being interchangeable with God in their eyes.
 
I'll never understand the people going on about "OMG PEOPLE BELIEVING THAT ABORTION IS WRONG IS LITERALLY A THREAT TO WOMENS RIGHTS", despite the fact that men and women have similar views on abortion legality, even if women lean slightly more towards pro-choice.
Ironically, I've seen in other polls that women slightly lean a bit more towards the pro-life side- but of course, it really depends who's asked (as expected, millenials/early gen Z completely favor the pro-choice narrative).

Anecdotally speaking, most of those protesting abortion clinics tend to be middle-aged women.

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>"Reeeee the President isn't listening to the local elected officials!"

Yeah that whole "local autonomy" thing was sort of dead the moment the Union won the Civil War, which is apparently supposed to be a good thing. One of the most hilarious things about the last four years is watching all these far-left dipshits suddenly discover they like the concept of states' rights and local over federal... and one of the most depressing things is knowing it's surface deep only and the second a Democrat's back in the White House the Fed will go back to being interchangeable with God in their eyes.
I'm all for small government. But I cross the line of people burning buildings, beating people up and destroying private property and the idiot Governor defending there crimes. Yeah thats when you called the federal government.
 
>"Reeeee the President isn't listening to the local elected officials!"

Yeah that whole "local autonomy" thing was sort of dead the moment the Union won the Civil War, which is apparently supposed to be a good thing. One of the most hilarious things about the last four years is watching all these far-left dipshits suddenly discover they like the concept of states' rights and local over federal... and one of the most depressing things is knowing it's surface deep only and the second a Democrat's back in the White House the Fed will go back to being interchangeable with God in their eyes.
Normal human behavior. They hate power until the people they like get it back.
 
>"Reeeee the President isn't listening to the local elected officials!"

Yeah that whole "local autonomy" thing was sort of dead the moment the Union won the Civil War, which is apparently supposed to be a good thing. One of the most hilarious things about the last four years is watching all these far-left dipshits suddenly discover they like the concept of states' rights and local over federal... and one of the most depressing things is knowing it's surface deep only and the second a Democrat's back in the White House the Fed will go back to being interchangeable with God in their eyes.

Also, when you spend the last 20 years talking up how the Feds should make ALL the decisions on all the laws so that those horrid racist Sheriffs and hick DAs can't keep those "oppressive good-ol-boy systems" in place at state level or below, and the love of top-down federal supremacy in every facet of life from environmental regulation to Title IX, it's obvious and disingenuous when you pull a sudden 180 and say "I LOVE local autonomy now!"



I'm all for small government. But I cross the line of people burning buildings, beating people up and destroying private property and the idiot Governor defending there crimes. Yeah thats when you called the federal government.

Well, yeah, but only to protect FEDERAL property. They'll give you a van ride for attacking the Court House or the Post Office, but it's still on the local Quisling to protect his own damn dry cleaner.
 
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Also, when you spend the last 20 years talking up how the Feds should make ALL the decisions on all the laws so that those horrid racist Sheriffs and hick DAs can't keep those "racist oppressive good-ol-boy systems" in place at state level or below, it's obvious and disingenuous when you pull a sudden 180 and say "I LOVE local autonomy now!"





Well, yeah, but only to protect FEDERAL property. They'll give you a van ride for attacking the Court House or the Post Office, but it's still on the local Quisling to protect his own damn dry cleaner.
Good point, but still I just found Governors who legit defend crimes that these rioters have down and specifically when its clear their no longer peaceful protesters. Just come off stupid. Like you really hate Trump that much, that your willing to let your state to go to shit.
 
Good point, but still I just found Governors who legit defend crimes that these rioters have down and specifically when its clear their no longer peaceful protesters. Just come off stupid. Like you really hate Trump that much, that your willing to let your state to go to shit.
They think that their constituents will still blame Trump for whatever goes wrong in their areas, while absolving the pro-rioter Governors of any wrongdoing. How true is that remains to be seen in the election season.
 
Ironically, I've seen in other polls that women slightly lean a bit more towards the pro-life side- but of course, it really depends who's asked (as expected, millenials/early gen Z completely favor the pro-choice narrative).

Anecdotally speaking, most of those protesting abortion clinics tend to be middle-aged women.

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Men are more pro choice than women? Makes sense considering they benefit from it the most but given where all the REEING comes from that's still surprising.

Guess it's exactly like the Free-Love movement.

I feel bad for women. Feminism really fucked them hard in the ass with no lube.
 
They tend to cram it in at 7th grade, which is a nightmare of a shitfuck salad of whatever ideas they can't cram between 6th grade (geographic terms and ancient civilizations), and 8th grade (American history that almost never busts past the Civil War due to the lack of time). 7th is mostly a mix of civic shit, citizenship info, and whatever dross they have left. It USED to cover European history to a degree and lead to a continuity between the two grades, but fuck that shit.

By the by, thank Obeme for making what they even learn more of a shitshow, because Common Core foisted a lot of the LA work on Social Studies because how fucking dare parents step in and not be shit. How dare they not make sure their kids fucking read and practice at home. Thanks to that bullshit, even more got glossed over because now they have to basically teach English now.
It depends heavily on the district and state. My state had a strict timetable for history/social studies in high school where you took world history in 9th grade, US history in 10th grade (only up to the Civil rights movement), and a choice between government/civics or economics in 11th grade. You could then take an additional class in this area for 12th grade like psych, or the class you didn't take in 11th grade. Now the quality of these classes varied from district to district, but all of the districts were required to adhere to this plan. This hasn't changed too much since I graduated.

Now Common Core is absolute shit at every level. I understand the reasons for wanting a relatively standardized curriculum for the nation but CC was a mistake. I have a relative that teaches elementary school and there are all sorts of BS requirements. My favorite is that you have to submit a lesson plan for the day with times for each subject. It doesn't sound so bad, but teachers are evaluated are on how well they adhere to this time table. If some of the students are having trouble on the subject and the time is over, you must move on to the next subject or else you get marked down. Likewise, if the students understand the subject well and finish early, you have to stretch out the time you spend on the subject or else you get marked down. It is an absolute mess and most of the teachers I know want it gone.
 
Now Common Core is absolute shit at every level. I understand the reasons for wanting a relatively standardized curriculum for the nation but CC was a mistake. I have a relative that teaches elementary school and there are all sorts of BS requirements. My favorite is that you have to submit a lesson plan for the day with times for each subject. It doesn't sound so bad, but teachers are evaluated are on how well they adhere to this time table. If some of the students are having trouble on the subject and the time is over, you must move on to the next subject or else you get marked down. Likewise, if the students understand the subject well and finish early, you have to stretch out the time you spend on the subject or else you get marked down. It is an absolute mess and most of the teachers I know want it gone.
It's almost as if federal government bureaucracies aren't too capable of understanding the nuances and complexities of how education works.
 
My favorite is that you have to submit a lesson plan for the day with times for each subject. It doesn't sound so bad, but teachers are evaluated are on how well they adhere to this time table. If some of the students are having trouble on the subject and the time is over, you must move on to the next subject or else you get marked down. Likewise, if the students understand the subject well and finish early, you have to stretch out the time you spend on the subject or else you get marked down. It is an absolute mess and most of the teachers I know want it gone.

Wth...who marks them down? The state? Why? How is this enforced evenly? That's impossible.
 
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