China Floodwatch 2020-21 - Wuhan, Hubei/Henan Province is sinking and I dunno how to swim.

Is the Three Gorges Dam kill?

  • Yes

    Votes: 310 78.7%

  • No

    Votes: 84 21.3%
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Gender of peace said:
In addition to the humanitarian nightmare and supply chain clusterfuck: how do you think dam failure will feed into geopolitics?

I would expect that China will almost immediately look to shift blame on an external foe in order to save face. US and India seem the most likely scapegoats. China officials have already tried to blame US for the WuFlu so it would be straightforward for them to extend that to TGD. And China's skirmish on the Indian border presents an equally convenient narrative of sabotage by a regional rival. This sounds like a recipe for whipping the Chinese into a war frenzy, a desperate attempt to maintain national unity.

Could also accelerate China's expansionism e.g. seizure of the South China Sea, Taiwan and Hong Kong, dam building and river redirection in the Himalayas to fuck over South Asia, etc.
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It's an interesting question, but I don't think we have a framework for a good answer. If the dam breaks, the real question is really how much of a China will there be in the immediate aftermath? It's a huge country, but highly concentrated and a lot of that concentration currently has however many millions of tons of water pointed at it's head. I could see them going full retard and trying to turn their attention outwards after a disaster like this, but I could also see them being so internally shattered that they need to pull all their resources home to prevent what's left of their country from coming apart at the welds.
 
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Gender of peace said:
In addition to the humanitarian nightmare and supply chain clusterfuck: how do you think dam failure will feed into geopolitics?

I would expect that China will almost immediately look to shift blame on an external foe in order to save face. US and India seem the most likely scapegoats. China officials have already tried to blame US for the WuFlu so it would be straightforward for them to extend that to TGD. And China's skirmish on the Indian border presents an equally convenient narrative of sabotage by a regional rival. This sounds like a recipe for whipping the Chinese into a war frenzy, a desperate attempt to maintain national unity.

Could also accelerate China's expansionism e.g. seizure of the South China Sea, Taiwan and Hong Kong, dam building and river redirection in the Himalayas to fuck over South Asia, etc.
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Wargames right on Taiwan at this moment. So M i suspect they would go real
 
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A few pages back, someone mentioned that this would possibly lead to the Earth itself wobbling or something. Once again showing my stupidity, would that be a bad thing? There was other dam breakages (probably not this scale to my knowledge except maybe the Vajont Dam which caused a 820 ft megatsunami) but it didn't cause that the Earth wobbling, I think.
 
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Ad Lib Moaning said:
A few pages back, someone mentioned that this would possibly lead to the Earth itself wobbling or something. Once again showing my stupidity, would that be a bad thing? There was other dam breakages (probably not this scale to my knowledge except maybe the Vajont Dam which caused a 820 ft megatsunami) but it didn't cause that the Earth wobbling, I think.
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It would effect its rotation. Would make the day a little longer is all. ..nothing apocalyptic . Its in seconds
 
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Ad Lib Moaning said:
A few pages back, someone mentioned that this would possibly lead to the Earth itself wobbling or something. Once again showing my stupidity, would that be a bad thing? There was other dam breakages (probably not this scale to my knowledge except maybe the Vajont Dam which caused a 820 ft megatsunami) but it didn't cause that the Earth wobbling, I think.
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There's a lot of water mass involved here, which would be moving at a tremendous velocity. So it would (very slightly) affect the rotation of the Earth. Nothing too severe in the grand scheme of things, but still notable.
 
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They've increased the output of the 3GD this morning, which will likely lead to Wuhan being flooded soon. It's already up a few cm in Wuhan, and they were ~1.5 m from overtopping the 30m dykes. It takes somewhere between 4 and 16 hours for the output to reach Wuhan, plus there's still rain to come in the area and greater region. I'm betting we see Wuhan floods before we see the 3GD collapse—if the latter happens at all.
 
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Jesus. Someone needs to tell Xi Jinping that when you open a mysterious 10,000-year-old sarcophagus, you probably shouldn't pose for a selfie with the dude inside. Also, playing hopscotch and deliberately jumping on every crack in the pavement is ill-advised, as is whipping your dick out and fucking a black cat that crossed your path instead of boiling it alive to make dim sum as is customary.
 
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Ad Lib Moaning said:
A few pages back, someone mentioned that this would possibly lead to the Earth itself wobbling or something. Once again showing my stupidity, would that be a bad thing? There was other dam breakages (probably not this scale to my knowledge except maybe the Vajont Dam which caused a 820 ft megatsunami) but it didn't cause that the Earth wobbling, I think.
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What I was referring to was a piece of CCP propaganda that said the mass of water held back by Three Gorges was enough to slow the Earth's rotation by a very small degree. Taking that at face value, a dubious proposition given thee Chinese and their relationship with the truth, I speculated that even if the CCP tried to conceal the dams collapse, the sheer volume of water moving would probably register on seismographs all over the region.
 
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Gender of peace said:
In addition to the humanitarian nightmare and supply chain clusterfuck: how do you think dam failure will feed into geopolitics?

I would expect that China will almost immediately look to shift blame on an external foe in order to save face. US and India seem the most likely scapegoats. China officials have already tried to blame US for the WuFlu so it would be straightforward for them to extend that to TGD. And China's skirmish on the Indian border presents an equally convenient narrative of sabotage by a regional rival. This sounds like a recipe for whipping the Chinese into a war frenzy, a desperate attempt to maintain national unity.

Could also accelerate China's expansionism e.g. seizure of the South China Sea, Taiwan and Hong Kong, dam building and river redirection in the Himalayas to fuck over South Asia, etc.
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Actually, I can see them blaming both India and the US for the dam, maybe throw in Taiwan, Australia and another country on top of it just to piss off everyone.
 
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Drain Todger said:
Jesus. Someone needs to tell Xi Jinping that when you open a mysterious 10,000-year-old sarcophagus, you probably shouldn't pose for a selfie with the dude inside. Also, playing hopscotch and deliberately jumping on every crack in the pavement is ill-advised, as is whipping your dick out and fucking a black cat that crossed your path instead of boiling it alive to make dim sum as is customary.
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Pfft, empty superstition. He'd have been fine if he didn't break that mirror while walking underneath the Ladder Of Unthrown Salt.
 
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It would effect its rotation. Would make the day a little longer is all. ..nothing apocalyptic . Its in seconds
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No, it would shorten the day by microseconds. And probably not even that. The Indian Ocean quake and tsunami only shortened the day by 2 microseconds. And Earth's day gets longer by about 15 microseconds a year since the Moon is slowing it down. Earth's rotational energy is 2.1×10^29 joules. The entire Indian Ocean quake (the vast majority of which was deep underground) released about 4x10^22 joules. It's literally nothing.
 
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