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Michigan House passes bill to keep Corona patients out of nursing homes, 74-34, including 17 Democrats. The bill would require Corona patients to be kept in separate buildings, while Whitmer's current orders allow them to be kept in special wings. Even if the Senate passes the bill, Whitmer is expected to veto it. The House's majority is large enough to override a veto, however.
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Yelp data indicates that nearly 800 businesses in the Detroit Metro Area have gone out of business.
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Governor Whitmer writes a New York Times op-ed calling for a federal mask mandate, as Joe Biden says she is still in the running for vice president. [Edit: Ninja'd]
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Busboy falsely claims to have corona, shuts restaurant down, costing it thousands of dollars.
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13 nuns at a convent of Felician sisters in Livonia have died of COVID since April.
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13 nuns at Livonia convent died from COVID-19, report finds

Sisters at Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary Convent ranged in age from 69 to 99, religious reports say
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More mask madness. Man in Utica (part of metro Detroit) is being sought by police after allegedly hitting a restaurant manager and bartender in a mask dispute back on July 10.
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MICHIGAN RECAP
Second wave of official cases is here; second wave of official deaths is not. Masks are now mandatory. People starting to snap. Lawsuits grind on ever so slowly. Petitions begin circulation.
 
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Monday marked a four-day decrease in the number of new confirmed COVID-19 cases in Texas and the third straight day with a decline in the positive test rate, according to a Houston Chronicle analysis.

From Sunday to Monday, Texas cases increased by 2.14 percent, or 7,153 cases, to 341,739 cases total. An additional 64 new deaths were reported; the state's death count is now at 4,055. The state's positive test rate declined from 15.03 percent to 14.67 percent.

FAMILY TRAGEDY: Three members of Fort Bend family succumb to COVID-19

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As of Monday evening, there were 10,569 patients hospitalized for COVID-19 in state hospitals. There were 11,167 beds available as well as 1,004 ICU beds available - marking the first time since July 8 that the state has had more than 1,000 empty ICU beds.

In the Houston region, cases had risen by 2.59 percent to 81,961 cases total. Sixteen new deaths were reported in the region yesterday, bringing the death count to 773. Harris County cases increased by 2.38 percent to 57,095 cases total.

Recent weeks of surging cases have strained the rural healthcare system, the Houston Chronicle's Emily Foxhall reports, leading some to get creative with how they manage resources and treat COVID-19 positive patients.

NOTE: The numbers included in this report represent a one-day change in data from Sunday, July 19 through Monday, July 20. It is still unclear how many of the state's new cases can be attributed to jail inmates from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. The Houston Chronicle's analysis of COVID-19 case data now includes probable and pending cases. This change is based on interviews with multiple public health officials and epidemiologists, as well as in line with CDC guidelines on reporting.

Correction: This story has been updated to reflect that the state has seen a four-day decrease in the number of new confirmed COVID-19 cases.
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EDIT: what do you think of this fact check kiwis?: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...too-large-stop-covid-19-particles/5343537002/
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I mean it makes sense.
Was it ever a claim that N95 did nothing to stop viral particles?

I did a month down in Florida helping with hurricane clean-up which involved ripping out soaked drywall which was holding mold particles, and Americorps had us wearing N95 respirators for low-risk houses and P100 respirators for high-risk houses. Basically the mold particles in the air and kicked up by removing the drywall were capable of getting around the openings between the N95 and our faces. Even the P100 us guys had to shave our facial hair because the hair could interfere with the seal and the mold particles could still get though.
So no, N95 are not a perfect end-all, be-all to stop viral spread. Will they help reduce the chance of you spreading it/catching it? Yes.

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Busboy falsely claims to have corona, shuts restaurant down, costing it thousands of dollars.
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This barely gets beyond local news but FB & Twatter are filled with "Amurican capitilizm makes us work while siiick!!!" copy+paste rants.
 
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My family is still freaking out about long term side effects of catching covid-19. wut do kiwis?
 
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My family is still freaking out about long term side effects of catching covid-19. wut do kiwis?
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Make them get tested. The tests are so fucked up, they'll probably test positive. Then you just point out that they felt sick a few months ago and got over it, that was the covid, and it must be all that healthy food they eat that made them survive it like it's nothing.
 
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Make them get tested. The tests are so fucked up, they'll probably test positive. Then you just point out that they felt sick a few months ago and got over it, that was the covid, and it must be all that healthy food they eat that made them survive it like it's nothing.
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I hope he/she doesn't live in Kentucky. Don't want an angry kiwi talking shit to you since he/she is put in house arrest.
 
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My family is still freaking out about long term side effects of catching covid-19. wut do kiwis?
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What is their age and general health level?

Most "long-term side effects" come from serious cases, which make up a tiny minority; less than 1% to about 2%, depending which sources you believe.
Such "long-term side effects" are also largely confined to the old and/or unhealthy (mostly old though) demographics - and such demographics were already at risk from lingering factors for even mild diseases (such as the flu or strep infections). Again, unlike retroviruses such as AIDS or DNA viruses such as Chicken Pox, COVID isn't actively infecting the patient long-term, it just in a rare minority of serious cases can cause damage from its short infection lifespan (which has more to do with blood pressure and less oxygen getting to the brain). Its also worth stating that some of the damage may come from ventilators/medical fuck-ups rather than the virus itself.

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Tell them it's barely different than the possible long term effects from catching the flu.
Although, that one might make them paranoid of the flu in general, so this idea could backfire on you...
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THIS.

When the evidence started coming out that this only had an infection lethality rate of 0.2-0.4, possibly lower, people really doubled down on the "Its a flu, bro!" mentality and I'm like "Great. Get ready for lockdowns every fucking flu season now."
Just give them all ideas and reason to lockdown everything and masks + social distancing forever!

Ofc some of the same people pushing lockdowns for COVID think the Pozzers should go unpunished for gift-giving...
 
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Well, Michigan's little Hitler's calling on President Trump to mandate mask wear nationally. As if he would listen to anything this stupid twat says. 😆

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Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer Wants President Donald Trump To Impose a Nationwide Face Mask Mandate

Whitmer's argument is short on facts and legal reasoning.
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President Trump, remove the Federal officers protecting Federal courts and arresting people for Federal crimes!
President Trump, make it a Federal crime for anyone in the country to not wear a mask!
 
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My family is still freaking out about long term side effects of catching covid-19. wut do kiwis?
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If they want to shelter in place out of an abundance of caution, that's their choice. I don't blame anyone who's old or has underlying conditions for laying extremely low until all this blows over. It may not be that dangerous outside of the risk groups, but if you're in the risk groups your chance of death/life altering consequences seems to go up exponentially.
 
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My family is still freaking out about long term side effects of catching covid-19. wut do kiwis?
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Look into the benefits smoking nicotine products seems to provide against catching covid. Get your family to smart smoking cigs. Then your family will be more chilled out, will feel better about their chances catching it, and they'll look badass smoking cigs.
 
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From Sunday to Monday, Texas cases increased by 2.14 percent, or 7,153 cases, to 341,739 cases total. An additional 64 new deaths were reported; the state's death count is now at 4,055. The state's positive test rate declined from 15.03 percent to 14.67 percent.
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Texas has about 29 million people, so the amount of people in Texas who have tested positive is a little over 1%, and the percentage of that group who died from Chinavirus is also a little over 1%.

Yet the media would have you believe there's football stadiums full of the dying and dead and people are falling over dead in the streets because they can't even get to these hospitals. Looks like nobody knows how to put numbers in the proper context anymore.
 
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Media breathlessly reports that a Texas hospital is triaging Covid patients and sending the ones who are going to die home, so they can die at home. Seems pretty normal to me. Thinking of all my dead people, only one died in a hospital, and that was after a disastrous surgery. The others died in hospice or at home. I have stopped paying attention to reports of hospitals approaching capacity, because they can just add more capacity. That's been demonstrated.

Fauci says it is unlikely SARS-CoV-2 will ever be eradicated, which the media spins as a disagreement with Trump. Only two viruses in the history of mankind have ever been eradicated, smallpox and some animal virus. No one believes Trump was putting SARS-CoV-2 in the same category. They take him literally but not sincerely, we take him sincerely but not literally. Anyway, SARS-CoV-2 apparently has an animal reservoir, and unless the Yangtze flood drowns all the little bats in their caves, it will always exist in nature.
 
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It's hard to stop asking when is this shit gonna end when people, even my sister thinks it's gonna last till 2022. I don't know man. I was one of those people that was scared of this way back in april but as time went on, I've been completely skeptical. I wonder if things would've went back to normal had floyd not died. Or in the very least if the incident didn't take place.

Makes me question how many lawsuits will ensue after the lockdowns and riots that went on
 
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Sekirodiealot said:
It's hard to stop asking when is this shit gonna end when people, even my sister thinks it's gonna last till 2022. I don't know man. I was one of those people that was scared of this way back in april but as time went on, I've been completely skeptical. I wonder if things would've went back to normal had floyd not died. Or in the very leqst if the incident didn't take place.

Makes me question how many lawsuits will ensue after the lockdowns and riots that went on
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If it wasn't him, it would've been some other random jogger. I don't believe it's any coincidence that the riots happened right when it seemed like the general public was about over the lockdown nonsense and ready to return to normal. Not "new normal", ACTUAL normal. As soon as I saw how it seemed like everyone conveniently forgot the virus existed while cities across the country burned to the ground I had a sneaking suspicion they were going to whip right back around to the lockdown narrative when they died down while using the inevitable rise in cases from the riots as the perfect scapegoat. And sure fucking enough...
 
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If it wasn't him, it would've been some other random jogger. I don't believe it's any coincidence that the riots happened right when it seemed like the general public was about over the lockdown nonsense and ready to return to normal. Not "new normal", ACTUAL normal. As soon as I saw how it seemed like everyone conveniently forgot the virus existed while cities across the country burned to the ground I had a sneaking suspicion they were going to whip right back around to the lockdown narrative when they died down while using the inevitable rise in cases from the riots as the perfect scapegoat. And sure fucking enough...
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I think the riots were planned for summer 2020 before the virus even started, that's where the media, political, and corporate coordination came from and was built as well as the on the ground support like the pallets of bricks. They were just looking for the nastiest video of a police shooting/police involved death they could find and were going to play it 24/7 to start riots, destabilize the country, and hopefully get Trump to start shooting people in the streets like Tiananmen Square/Color Revolution shit/Arab Spring. Then Big Floyd took a lethal dose of fentanyl when he was being arrested, died, and became Saint Floyd, and the media had their martyr.

Then the Chinavirus came and gave them another narrative to follow and made their message to go out and protest for racial justice look stupid after they told us to stay inside the past few months, then Trump didn't take the bait and start shooting rioters leaving the Democrat governors and mayors looking weak and incompetent, then laughable shit like CHAZ happened alongside a bunch of anti-semitism from the BLM crowd (a big no-no for the media) and made these people look even stupider, and now we're back to the Chinavirus narrative which is their last ditch hope to defeat Trump and one they have to double down on.

At this point I think they'll keep hammering the COVID-1984 shit until Trump is out of office. If Trump wins in November, they'll just keep pushing it for the sake of Impeachment Round 2, midterm elections in 2022, and 2024 elections. Even if there's a vaccine by then, we'll still be told to social distance and wear masks for the sake of people who can't get the vaccine, or because the disease might mutate and bypass the vaccine immunity. Remember, it's still widely promoted that you can catch COVID-19 twice even though the evidence for that is almost non-existant.

If Biden wins, they'll drop this by next spring because the media will start talking about how the disease was overrated and start pushing the same "it's not much worse than the flu" studies they like to ignore now and manipulating the statistics the other way, since COVID-19's reputation as a dangerous plague is built on cherrypicking the research and manipulating the statistics. Then Biden and his administration will get credit for saving the economy and restoring normalcy, as Biden's messaging is all about making things like the "good ol' Obama years" and not the chaotic Trump years. And just like Obama, the media will praise every bit of his administration and ignore shadowy shit Biden will be doing.

One thing I've noticed is that combination of summer and the Saint Floyd riots seem to have broken the spell the virus propaganda held. People seem willing to wear masks but otherwise don't give a fuck about social distancing. Traffic on the roads, number of people out walking/jogging, and business in stores seems almost normal to me compared to any other summer. I guess a bunch of made-in-China cotton that warns on the box DOES NOT PROTECT AGAINST DISEASE really does do the trick. Let's hope our magic facemask talismans keep us all safe.
 
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Wow, look at all the mask-wearing and social-distancing coming out of Georgia, today, from the guy who thinks that wearing a mask should be mandatory and not wearing a mask should result in criminal penalties. I love how when the cameras are all on broadcasting the event, they're all sitting in different zipcodes, but the second that's done and over with, they all pile into a clump and start rubbing all over each other.

Remind me again why I'm supposed to give a shit about any of this if even the poster children treat it like a game.
 
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