Inactive Nick Bate / Nickalaus B. Stoutzenberger (Thread 2: THE RECKONING)

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cyaltir said:
Not a lawyer, but aren't trial materials public? Not in the "uploaded for all to see" kind, but in the kind where you can put in a request to see a copy of the material? I imagine the evaluation would make it into the trial somewhere.
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Ordinarily, but case files involving child sexual abuse are routinely "impounded" and not made available to the public. The proceedings themselves might not be public, either. I'm not sure specifically about Pennsylvania's records policies on these, but in the state where I dealt with appeals of cases including such material, any document or other exhibit related to such content was prominently stamped as such and destroyed after the resolution of the proceedings. Victims were only identified in anything public by initials.

It may be that the only details that end up public are the statutes violated and the ultimate sentence.
 
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cyaltir said:
Gotcha. That makes sense.

Too bad he won't have access to Twitter anymore. I'm sure someone could have convinced him to release it if he did.
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Where there are laws about such material, there are substantial penalties for releasing it illegally.
 
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Zim said:
I may have missed it but does anyone know the date of his rescheduled pretrial?
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The last update to the court documents states the "Last Action Date" as the 4th. The "Next Action Date" is still blank.

EDIT: The link I posted earlier in the thread will get you to the Docket Search. Stoutzenberger, N, Lancaster County.
 
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I watched the Internet Insanity video. I never saw or heard the one Nick sent no oh God I give up

I'm leaving the internet good bye I'm done

I've seen some shit from Nick ( sometimes literally ) but this is too much
 
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Dudeofteenage said:
Remember that the CPS report specifically mentioned that he had "confessed" to the abuse, so I'm presuming that they discovered some of his various discussions of it online. The prosecution will have access to the CPS report.
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"Confession" seems to me to indicate something more formal than online admissions that he had done something, though perhaps not something as formal as an actual signed statement. I also recall that the report indicates the abuse took place on an ongoing basis for a period of years, indicating CPS has more information and more detailed information than what Nick has said online.

You might be surprised what perps will admit to in attempts to minimize their offenses, while not realizing that what they said basically amounts to a confession.
 
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AnOminous said:
"Confession" seems to me to indicate something more formal than online admissions that he had done something, though perhaps not something as formal as an actual signed statement. I also recall that the report indicates the abuse took place on an ongoing basis for a period of years, indicating CPS has more information and more detailed information than what Nick has said online.

You might be surprised what perps will admit to in attempts to minimize their offenses, while not realizing that what they said basically amounts to a confession.
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Well, I am presuming CPS has a lower standard for what counts as a "confession" than a court. In fact they probably didn't use the word "confess", I tried to find the actual file for 5 minutes and got bored. But they definitely said that Nick's denial to the CPS officer had to be weighed against the fact that he had discussed the abuse with others, so they definitely had some records along these lines. No, this certainly wouldn't count as a "confession" in the same way an official statement to a police officer would. I just meant that CPS had some evidence involving Nick discussing the abuse, and that this evidence will be available to the prosecution.

It won't be as decisive as a formal legal confession, but it will weigh against any denial he makes that the abuse took place.
 
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The CPS report is in a grainy couple of photos back on page 246 (originally uploaded by Nick) of the last thread. It'd be more informative if there was a better public record of it.

Also, remember when Nick was complaining about having to take care of some dogs and how miserable he was doing it?
 
ToroidalBoat said:
The CPS report is in a grainy photo back on page 246 of the last thread. It'd be nice if there was a better public record of it.

Also, remember when Nick was complaining about having to take care of some dogs and how miserable he was doing it?
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Some one did do a decent transcription of it, some parts are had to make out because of the abysmal quality of the pictures but we have 95% of it.
 
hemolyzer said:
I was gonna post this earlier, is it normal for prisons to bill the sentenced inmates for their stay or is that a PA thing? If Nick ever gets out of the slammer will the state hand him a bill for however many years he was there?
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I've never heard of that, but I do know work details are used. In TN at least, some offenders can be put to work for a reduced sentence, but I've only heard of it done with misdemeanors.
 
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