Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out

[Pukebucket]

PK expressed interest in the dynamic of an 'older woman and young boy' before and that's seperate from Marl's obsession with teen girls so we don't know if she had victims either. The only difference between Marl and PK so far is that Marl's logs were leaked and it confirmed his predatory ways. As a matter of fact he never expressed interest before the leak and was very private about it. The odds of PK being as creepy and predatory is pretty high, especially since she was so open to it.

Again I repeat, this is just me making assumptions. I'm not accusing her, I'm just saying we don't know if she did this. She lied about the dogfucking and her being unaware of Marl's zoophilic ways, she could lie about this too. I am for sure accusing her as being a well documented, serial liar.

And like him or not, Marl's side of the story could be important for dicussion sake. In the court of law, every witness or suspect has to be interrogated or interviewed to gain a clear picture. I hate him as much as everyone does, but him claiming PK as a willing participant and enabler could shed some light in her lies. Like how serial killers Ian Brady or Paul Bernardo provided information about their accomplices. Still huge pieces of shit that deserve punishment, but the police getting their side of the story are not bad people for wanting to get more pieces of the puzzle.

Also if disagreement and calling out someone's shit is 'in-fighting' then you need to lurk the farms more. This is part of the norm in other threads so, lurk moar.

Calm down, I'm just debating the claims that Marl wouldn't be a chomo or dogfucker if he didn't know Glip. Glip is also a dogfucker, we know this, the only question is whether they were willing or not and that's not something we really have a solid answer for; especially since Marl habitually encourages people to become dogfuckers for his own reasons.

I'm not debating that Glip had their own interests or fetishes, nor that they couldn't also be abusing kids alongside Marl either. They absolutely could've been and their "scenes" make that very clear. I was just trying to say that a person's actions should stand for that person. It's difficult with regards to polycules like this because they're so enmeshed, but I do think that Marl and Glip and Eevee need to be judged by their actions and behavior, both as a group and as separate individuals.

And while Marl's statements can certainly be useful for proving or disproving individual guilt, I think we need to take care not to just take what Marl says at face value purely because Glip is easier to dislike.

 

[false prophet medea]

It’s very obvious who in this thread hasn’t been a victim before of someone like Marl. We have stories that corroborate Marl’s behavior from MANY sources far more trustworthy than PK themself. We have Lain, BF, Pengo, and others still. Marl was a skilled manipulator, and as someone who has been abused by a similar (but not even as bad!) method, it’s extremely hard to leave or fight back against an abuser that dedicated to isolating and devaluing you.

What glip’s behavior is, is something called “fawning”. It’s what you’re taking to mean complicitness or Glip being interested on their own in Marl’s activities. A victim will “fawn” over an abuser who behaves hurt when their tactics don’t work the first time. Fawning includes trying to do things the way the abuser likes - agreeing with them, defending them, even proposing their own interests as an effort to “get back on their good side”. Fawning is also why many victims fear outing zoophiles and pedophiles - because it makes them look complicit, not like they were being abused and trying desperately to appease their abuser, often by any means necessary.

Pukebucket is correct that Glip has a right to live their life without hunting down Marl, and we know there are a number of legal obstacles to bringing him to justice. It’s implied he moved out of his parents house, his dad is a cop, the statute of limitations passed, Glip fawned so hard they would have to incriminate themself too, and on top of that the American police are such a useless agency that some 70% of cases like this are shoved onto a back shelf and never investigated. Ever. No matter the evidence.

We can be perfectly upset at Glip for being abusive. We can be upset at them for the actions that required their own agency, like the toddler rape art. We can be upset at them for their mediocre apologies. However it’s a little disingenuous to be mad at someone for the stuff above.

it almost feels like a thread split between Glip and Marl is due. A fawning person is not complicit. Glip has their own abusive behavior they should be judged on merit for.

 

[Rosechuspickle]

It’s very obvious who in this thread hasn’t been a victim before of someone like Marl. We have stories that corroborate Marl’s behavior from MANY sources far more trustworthy than PK themself. We have Lain, BF, Pengo, and others still. Marl was a skilled manipulator, and as someone who has been abused by a similar (but not even as bad!) method, it’s extremely hard to leave or fight back against an abuser that dedicated to isolating and devaluing you.

What glip’s behavior is, is something called “fawning”. It’s what you’re taking to mean complicitness or Glip being interested on their own in Marl’s activities. A victim will “fawn” over an abuser who behaves hurt when their tactics don’t work the first time. Fawning includes trying to do things the way the abuser likes - agreeing with them, defending them, even proposing their own interests as an effort to “get back on their good side”. Fawning is also why many victims fear outing zoophiles and pedophiles - because it makes them look complicit, not like they were being abused and trying desperately to appease their abuser, often by any means necessary.

Pukebucket is correct that Glip has a right to live their life without hunting down Marl, and we know there are a number of legal obstacles to bringing him to justice. It’s implied he moved out of his parents house, his dad is a cop, the statute of limitations passed, Glip fawned so hard they would have to incriminate themself too, and on top of that the American police are such a useless agency that some 70% of cases like this are shoved onto a back shelf and never investigated. Ever. No matter the evidence.

We can be perfectly upset at Glip for being abusive. We can be upset at them for the actions that required their own agency, like the toddler rape art. We can be upset at them for their mediocre apologies. However it’s a little disingenuous to be mad at someone for the stuff above.

it almost feels like a thread split between Glip and Marl is due. A fawning person is not complicit. Glip has their own abusive behavior they should be judged on merit for.

'It’s very obvious who in this thread hasn’t been a victim before of someone like Marl. '

Pretty big assumption there, just because people don't powerlevel like crazy (because you know, it's against forum rules) doesn't mean they haven't been a victim of sexual abuse.

There's no evidence that PK stayed with Marl due to 'fawning'. There's actually more evidence that she enabled him and shared similar fantasies through screencaps and artwork.

 

[Meowthkip]

This isn't even the first time Glip has done the whole "Transgressor reminds me of how Marl/My Mom/Someone else messed with me and I will rant on about it and then somewhat equate it to something the transgressor did" thing in their scenes. It's pretty dang common and is how she positions herself as totally an authority due to all the experience she has as a victim. She did it to @Meowthkip too as I recall, who peaced out and left the discord rather than take the bait - which is what they want so the vultures get their meat to claw and peck at.

What's funny is that I did it to her and she's not used to that, so she proceeded to psycho-analyse me on Twitter about how much of a damaged person I am to see parallels between someone in my life with NPD and PK, who was basically pulling every single strategy from the same playbook, when really it was my way of saying "I can see through your bullshit." I was aware, at the time, that the message wouldn't really register for PK, but it was more to signal to the other people who were sticking around to let them know what, exactly, they were dealing with, and warn them via demonstration. At that point anybody still in there could consider themselves warned.

Also fucking LOL at Opa frothing at the mouth at me being mistaken and apparently not taking enough steps to remedy the situation when I realized I was wrong. Like, dude, you're the one interacting with Floraverse shit on the same account you posted your kid's photo. You might not have tweeted any adult content, but that adult content was still connected to your handle, and with all those pedos that are lurking in PK's server, you're more concerned with KF posting a single photo that you yourself had shared publicly, while those same pedos were probably browsing your Twitter? And despite the fact that you claim to be so very, very alarmed by this photo being up, you can't even talk your wife into contacting me on Twitter into getting it taken down? This leads me to suspect either

1. Your wife knows about the photo and doesn't think it's that big of a deal that it's on here
2. Your wife knows about the photo but blames you for it being here and thinks you should sort it out yourself since it is your fault
3. She doesn't know about the photo because you haven't told her and are hiding it from her
4. She doesn't know about the photo because I don't know, every time you try to tell her she doesn't take it seriously because there's more important things at hand and you're just absolutely shit at explaining yourself
5. You want the photo to remain up so that you can have a personal grievance against KF for victim points to bring up any time KF is discussed for any reason, ever

Take your pick.

I’m not 100% if he wants this posted and if he’d like me to take it down I’d be glad to. But I’ve spoken w Pengo for a while and the two of us have talked about Glip, and while Pengo is trying to help them and push them in the right direction, it should be noted that Glip frequently goes directly against Pengo’s suggestions.

seeing him get implicated now is a little frustrating because he’s not. He’s keeping a healthy distance for his own mental wellbeing and not getting too close, while pushing Glip toward therapy and legal action. Glip also is just such a raging asshole and victim complex that they can’t actually take his advice 70% of the time.

this is to say, this kind of behavior isn’t what pengo is supporting or wants them to display.

My advice to Pengo would be to leave ASAP, since I suspect Pengo's goal is to get Marl arrested, and PK will string Pengo along because she knows the only reason Pengo is back in her web is to accomplish this goal, and once it's accomplished, Pengo will leave and PK will no longer have Pengo to control. I do not think Pengo is detached enough to maneuver all of the traps that PK would set up for him. If PK actually wanted Marl brought to justice, she would have given up Marl's info a long-ass time ago. But she hasn't, and it sure as fuck isn't because she's scared of Marl. My worry is that all of Pengo's re-traumatization will be for naught, and nothing will be accomplished.

I'm still a few pages behind as I write this, but I also want to say, for the record, that I had warned you, @sad cowboy cat , about this sort of thing happening. I noticed that you were PK's whipping boy and advised you to get out, but you assured me that you knew what you were in for, so none of this should come as a surprise to you. It sucks that it happened to you, yeah, but you were warned months and months ago, and you got burned anyway.

I hope you've learned from this because it all could have been avoided and it was only a matter of time before you got puppy-piled.

 

[LUNEKO]

My advice to Pengo would be to leave ASAP, since I suspect Pengo's goal is to get Marl arrested, and PK will string Pengo along because she knows the only reason Pengo is back in her web is to accomplish this goal, and once it's accomplished, Pengo will leave and PK will no longer have Pengo to control. I do not think Pengo is detached enough to maneuver all of the traps that PK would set up for him. If PK actually wanted Marl brought to justice, she would have given up Marl's info a long-ass time ago. But she hasn't, and it sure as fuck isn't because she's scared of Marl. My worry is that all of Pengo's re-traumatization will be for naught, and nothing will be accomplished.

This is what i was thinking about, im glad Pengo went to therapy and that he resolved to make peace with the whole disaster, but in the process he just got himself hooked again into this mess that Glip is adamantly refusing to resolve, from the comics it makes it seem like Pengo developed some sort of savior complex that wants to pull Glip out of the hole, but as 1.5+ k of forum pages of shitposting demonstrates this is not going to happen. He has better chances at persecuting Marl on his own rather than try to help Glip in any capacity, he's just going to end up a Glip hound at this rate

 

[Pukebucket]

It’s very obvious who in this thread hasn’t been a victim before of someone like Marl. We have stories that corroborate Marl’s behavior from MANY sources far more trustworthy than PK themself. We have Lain, BF, Pengo, and others still. Marl was a skilled manipulator, and as someone who has been abused by a similar (but not even as bad!) method, it’s extremely hard to leave or fight back against an abuser that dedicated to isolating and devaluing you.

What glip’s behavior is, is something called “fawning”. It’s what you’re taking to mean complicitness or Glip being interested on their own in Marl’s activities. A victim will “fawn” over an abuser who behaves hurt when their tactics don’t work the first time. Fawning includes trying to do things the way the abuser likes - agreeing with them, defending them, even proposing their own interests as an effort to “get back on their good side”. Fawning is also why many victims fear outing zoophiles and pedophiles - because it makes them look complicit, not like they were being abused and trying desperately to appease their abuser, often by any means necessary.

Pukebucket is correct that Glip has a right to live their life without hunting down Marl, and we know there are a number of legal obstacles to bringing him to justice. It’s implied he moved out of his parents house, his dad is a cop, the statute of limitations passed, Glip fawned so hard they would have to incriminate themself too, and on top of that the American police are such a useless agency that some 70% of cases like this are shoved onto a back shelf and never investigated. Ever. No matter the evidence.

We can be perfectly upset at Glip for being abusive. We can be upset at them for the actions that required their own agency, like the toddler rape art. We can be upset at them for their mediocre apologies. However it’s a little disingenuous to be mad at someone for the stuff above.

it almost feels like a thread split between Glip and Marl is due. A fawning person is not complicit. Glip has their own abusive behavior they should be judged on merit for.

I'm not quite sure if I'd go so far as to say that Glip shouldn't be hunting down Marl to get legal action done, only that it's unlikely that will happen for the reasons already addressed. Glip isn't the only one of Marl's victims to be guilty of inaction, either, although I'm certainly not blaming BigFluff or Lain or any of the others for not wanting to go to the police either.

Marl has a habit of targeting people who are either curious about some of the shit he talks about in a passive fashion or just have a habit of letting him lead the direction of the conversation through complacency and/or, as mentioned above, fawning. We saw this in the Bigfluff logs, and the Pengo logs. This is done by abusers like Marl to find an easy mark; it's much simpler to find someone with a passing interest or curiosity about a shared subject than it is to groom someone into being interested in trying an act they already know they dislike. It's why so many child molesters flock to children's media and why so many animal rapists hang around furry circles.

 

[Meowthkip]

I'm not quite sure if I'd go so far as to say that Glip shouldn't be hunting down Marl to get legal action done, only that it's unlikely that will happen for the reasons already addressed. Glip isn't the only one of Marl's victims to be guilty of inaction, either, although I'm certainly not blaming BigFluff or Lain or any of the others for not wanting to go to the police either.

Marl has a habit of targeting people who are either curious about some of the shit he talks about in a passive fashion or just have a habit of letting him lead the direction of the conversation through complacency and/or, as mentioned above, fawning. We saw this in the Bigfluff logs, and the Pengo logs. This is done by abusers like Marl to find an easy mark; it's much simpler to find someone with a passing interest or curiosity about a shared subject than it is to groom someone into being interested in trying an act they already know they dislike. It's why so many child molesters flock to children's media and why so many animal rapists hang around furry circles.

She doesn't have to "hunt Marl down." She has indicated she knows more than everyone else. All she would have to do is give up the info that she knows, and let other people take care of the rest. That's it. It's that simple.

But I suspect she won't, because she needs Pengo back in her orbit, and she also doesn't want to risk getting charged herself. Even if she were given complete immunity in exchange for her testimony, the mere fact that it would be in the public record that she willingly aided and abetted this fucker would be too much for the fragile image she projects to the world to bear. It would crack and people would start seeing through her mask.

It's funny, really, that her main self-insert wears a split-faced mask. It's like she's so close to self-awareness, but can't quite get it.

 

[LUNEKO]

It's funny, really, that her main self-insert wears a split-faced mask. It's like she's so close to self-awareness, but can't quite get it.

It's something that has always bugged me, because, if anything, it makes it seems like she's a duplicitous cunt and not really helping her case of absolute innocence

 

[Violent Ken Apologist]

'It’s very obvious who in this thread hasn’t been a victim before of someone like Marl. '

Pretty big assumption there, just because people don't powerlevel like crazy (because you know, it's against forum rules) doesn't mean they haven't been a victim of sexual abuse.

There's no evidence that PK stayed with Marl due to 'fawning'. There's actually more evidence that she enabled him and shared similar fantasies through screencaps and artwork.

She must have really pissed off and abused like a good half of everyone in this thread from just passingly observing it. Wow. I've never seen such an enthused and undiluted display of vitriol for a toxic asshole before. It is, in a word, beautiful.

 

[CallieMarie]

She must have really pissed off and abused like a good half of everyone in this thread from just passingly observing it. Wow. I've never seen such an enthused and undiluted display of vitriol for a toxic asshole before. It is, in a word, beautiful.

Honestly I always personally theorized that a lot of regular thread posters here where people Glip has either actively abused in the past or passively groomed through how open they were with their Pokemon rape porn back in the day they had a large child-filled fan base.

Unrelated- can we get a new thread poll? It's been the current one for ages.

Maybe who will Glip throw under the bus next or something.

 

[LUNEKO]

Unrelated- can we get a new thread poll? It's been the current one for ages.

Maybe who will Glip throw under the bus next or something.

Not much of a poll if the only possible answer is Eevee

 

[FrickleMyPickle]

It’s very obvious who in this thread hasn’t been a victim before of someone like Marl.

Oh, fuck you. If you want to clutch your pearls over Glip's situation and pretend you're an expert on the psychology behind it, more power to you. But don't piss on everyone else's intensely personal histories just because you don't think it's possible to have been in an abusive situation that was extremely hard to leave and be highly skeptical of Glip's ever changing account of things.

 

[Pronoun Party]

you know, if Glip thinks it is okay to hold Hare responsible for the actions of everyone in this thread, then based on Glip's own criteria it is perfectly within our rights (and in fact even more fair) to hold Glip responsible for the actions of everyone in the floraverse community, including Marl and all the other sexual abusers that Glip has enabled over the years.

don't dish it if you can't take it, you insufferable harpy.

 

[Meowthkip]

you know, if Glip thinks it is okay to hold Hare responsible for the actions of everyone in this thread, then based on Glip's own criteria it is perfectly within our rights (and in fact even more fair) to hold Glip responsible for the actions of everyone in the floraverse community, including Marl and all the other sexual abusers that Glip has enabled over the years.

don't dish it if you can't take it, you insufferable harpy.

I mean, it is only fair, after all.

 

[AllCISPeople]

Oh hey I got a callout in those logs, cool, Hi Opa!

Alright you’ve got me, I was INCOREECT about Mismatched being edited. My bad, I take responsibility for it. Others in the thread called me out long before that for being wrong, so I admit that I was in error.

Here’s the thing though; that’s a fairly minor thing to be wrong about considering:

1) You’ve accused Kiwi Farms of being pedophiles for posting a picture of your daughter which YOU posted on an account that you interact with NSFW Twitter pages on, and don’t see a problem with.
2) Said you “Knew glip and MARL SO well” when 2 years or so later it came out he was a massive pedophile and dog fucker.
3) Have admitted you are okay with Lolicon when you have a young daughter.
4) Chose glip’s cult-like community over your wife and child.
5) Allowed glip to convince you that your wife had somehow abused you when YOU were the one hiding things online from her.
6) Along with glip, allowed and supported an admitted rapist (Twee) to stay in your community.

Shall I go on? And you deflected CallieMarie correcting someone’s incorrect assumption that you reblog porn by saying “Oh there was just a SMALL thread made apologizing” like you were reaching for straws trying to prove that your cult is somehow more morally sound than Kiwi Farms. But none the less, thank you Opa for providing me and others here with you wholesome insight.

To Hare/ @sad cowboy cat, isn’t the rule supposed to be don’t pozload my neghole? Hasn’t that always been the rule? Why in the God Jesus’ green Earth did you think that getting close to PK (in a non gay-ops related manner) would be a wise choice? How did you think that would end, honestly?

 

[false prophet medea]

you know, if Glip thinks it is okay to hold Hare responsible for the actions of everyone in this thread, then based on Glip's own criteria it is perfectly within our rights (and in fact even more fair) to hold Glip responsible for the actions of everyone in the floraverse community, including Marl and all the other sexual abusers that Glip has enabled over the years.

don't dish it if you can't take it, you insufferable harpy.

Good point and fair. I rescind my point. Until Glip stops making KF a monolith, they can handle us making their community one.

 

[Meowthkip]

To Hare/ @sad cowboy cat, isn’t the rule supposed to be don’t pozload my neghole? Hasn’t that always been the rule? Why in the God Jesus’ green Earth did you think that getting close to PK (in a non gay-ops related manner) would be a wise choice? How did you think that would end, honestly?

Honestly the main reason I didn't ban SCC for sticking around was because it didn't even seem like a ween attempt.

But from this point onward, anybody posting about how they're interacting with people in the server (rather than just documenting the foolishness) is eating a ban, for their own protection.

 

[CallieMarie]

I'm just thinking about how Lain told me when the Marl logs leaked she DM'd Opa on Twitter to tell him her story in more detail and how Opa was supposedly horrified and decided to take a step back from Glip.

.....and then went back to Glip almost immediately and stood by them while Glip insisted everything from the logs that they supposedly did not read were fake and that "Lain was a lying fucking parasite."

Which- leads me to believe that Opa actually read the Marl logs when they were released and was probably just actually just fine with the contents within them with how Glip really never debunked them besides vaguely calling it "Completely fake" or "edited to make us look bad" depending on Glip/Eevee/Marls mood.

If I'm being honest, there's something that disturbs me about Opa, he's the type of person who I think just genuinely does not care about child exploitation in general. (This is just my gut feeling based on the fact I know he stood by Glip after Lain had a heart to heart with him and how he stood by Glip despite that, and the logs and not an accusation of anything)

But, come to think of it, if Opa had any decent bone in his body (lol) he should probably apologize to Lain now that Glip admits they were wrong about her.

 

[Ledian]

I have not looked to much at this thread in very long and holy hell, what has been going on?

 

[CallieMarie]

I have not looked to much at this thread in very long and holy hell, what has been going on?

Glip admitted that Lain and BF are actually victims of Marl, attempted to apologise and admitted that Marl got them to fuck a dog.