Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

Ok, I guess Im sperging but....
I love his wife. Her voice is so quintessentially perfect for that parish . I say that in a good way. hearing her accent reminds me of many wonderful, sweet women like her who left Louisiana after Katrina. The kinda women who might call you a curse word or threaten to beat you ass in the same sentence that they are telling you that they love you and are asking you to stay to dinner or have some cake. Its pretty funny and the food they offer is awesome.

My favorite part was at the end of maybe the first or second episode ( I wish I knew) where he is recording a conversation with his agitated wife and she has had it with him and wants to smack him. She made a sudden move and he told the tape recorder that she almost hit him . Then she replies, in her absolutely perfect 9th ward accent (they say it like " ninte wawd") replies something like " Yeah, everybody out there on the tape listening, Ima bout to punch him in the face". I love her for that.

All this happened near an area that I used to live. Those mysterious pain clinics were in other parishes (counties) as well. One popped up in the posh neighborhood across from the river from us. We had a good view. They would advertise via those small signs like politicians use and bombard traffic areas and highways with them but would NOT have their name or advertising on their building.

We would just see crowds of people around them all day log and police or security (since they only accepted cash ($200 a visit) and they had huge quantities of narcotics in their pharmacy ( I think a typical spript would be for 200 hydrocodone 10 mg strength, 100 soma and 100 xanax bars 4mg). Imagine the quantity of drugs on hand to fill dozens of these scripts every hour. They dispensed no other meds.

I mean absolutely NO part of it resembled a legitimate medical center. There were no appts, just walkins. You sign up and wait forever for your name to be called, it could be hours. Then you are ushered to the back, have your temp hastily taken and then sat in a vibrating chair to wait for the Dr. ( The massage chair was dubbed "therapy" to make it look like something medical might be happening).

Then the doc comes in and hands you a preprinted scrip just like the hundreds of others she will hand out that day. . It was lucrative as hell for the doc and also for the patients. They would take their 200 lortab 10/500, 100 soma (50mg) and 60 4mg xanax bars and sell a few to cover the cost of the dr visit and profit from the rest or take them. Some people made a hell of a lot of money off those drugs. I dont know the street value now or where you are but there is great value in those drugs. Some people did it just to get rich, some people did it for the drugs.

Vicodin- 200 pills x $20 each = $4000
Soma - 50 pills x 10 = $500
Xanax - 60 x 15 = $ 900

Holy fuck, i never realized you could make that much!! Over $5000 Subtract $200 for the office vist and about $100 spent at the pharmacy and even $50 for the gas in case you came from another state and somebody could make a huge profit as long as they didnt get addicted in the process. Does anyone else have current street prices for these drugs where they are.? Those are the prices I remember from the early 2000's so obviously they are worth so much more now and you are unlikely to find a doc to write them so recklessly.

So anyway, Im really curious about munchies and being a drug addict ( pharmacy drugs, not street drugs).
*How many munchies just start out munching for the attention and then end up with a nasty habit or go hard core.? As you see some docs were ( and some still are) just slinging narcotics like its freakin Mardi Gras out there simply for easy profit.
*How many who start as addicts end up being munchies to cover their habits?

my kid says most things go for $30 a pill here

 

[doubter4life]

Morgan thinks that her driving all over the East Coast for doctors doesn’t constitute doctor shopping. She just needed to find one that she could con into her special needs aka munching. She neglects to mention she can’t see her local hospitals because she’s labeled a munch at every single one. Quite the feat!

also,she is still claiming to have dementia but seems to have no problem remembering how to find Reddit and Kiwifarms. Morgan, since we know you read here, you’re a special kind of stupid and your only illness is mental AKA hypochondriac munchie with a failure to grow the fuck up.

 

[Unheard Bird]

OT but can we have somewhere else we can go to talk more actively? I miss the discord.

 

[Quieres?]

Stumbled across a Tiktok user called Allycarrot who doesn’t have a ton of followers but a video of hers gained a lot of traction.
Basically, the lass in question claims to have Crohn’s disease, PTSD, breast cancer (a lump was removed) as well as ”suspected EDS” and she uses a wheelchair, a cane and crutches when she feels like it. Very typical munchie/spoonie account obsessing over being sick.

Now this isn’t really anything noteworthy in terms of munchies but what bothered me was the popular video in question where she tags it with chemo, shows a bald spot and proceeds to shave her entire head and eyebrows. She so clearly tries to make people think she has cancer and receives chemo while in reality, she’s on Purinethol for Crohn’s which does not lead to that kind of hair loss. It’s a low-dose pill you take daily for Crohn’s maintenance and it does in no way, shape, or form make you magically lose your eyebrows in one day. The hair on your scalp can get a little thinner but it’s nowhere near similar to the kind of hair loss that chemo IVs cause.

In another video, a confused follower asks if her hair will grow back. She says she hopes it does after she eventually quits taking but she’s not sure. Girl.. You shaved your head. It never fell off to begin with.

Edit: It’s also worth noting that in one video, she mentions her doctor telling her that all her symptoms are just in her head. The doc in question might just have a point.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

Chantal. Because Arby's is worth dying for.



This is why I liked that Netflix series Diagnosis. They had absolutely no issue telling someone their problems were psychological and pointing out that the one girl had already been diagnosed with rumination syndrome in the past but refused to accept that was her problem or put in the work to fix it. I'm sure she went on the show expecting to be told she had some very rare and special spoonie diagnosis and was going to need her port and toobs for life, but instead she came off looking like a spoiled brat who didn't want to get better.

I agree. That was a great series. Anyone who enjoys this thread would probably like it. It was made by the same people who make the show Intervention and it does show "their side of the story" a bit but it is more often critical and showcasing their neurosis. The people filmed for it had an epic chimpout on twatter and Medium when they found out it made them look bad.
Mold girl living in the desert was so crazy. I was surprised she turned down the free offer of stem cell treatment.
The hardest one to watch was the lesbian couple with the "sick" one bleeding the other dry. Falling for dental quackery that is very expensive and claims it can cure anything, having the whole house ripped apart and redone. I hope she left her before she payed for that bogus amalgam filling removal.
I know the CFS dude confined to bed should have been saddest to watch but nope, the dyke was worse. I like when her gay male friend has to sheepishly tell her she's fucking insane in the nicest way possible. She took over 50 "medications" aka supplements and herbal tinctures a day.

 

[IFnative]

OT but can we have somewhere else we can go to talk more actively? I miss the discord.

So go start something.

 

[howmanypizzas69]

I agree. That was a great series. Anyone who enjoys this thread would probably like it. It was made by the same people who make the show Intervention and it does show "their side of the story" a bit but it is more often critical and showcasing their neurosis. The people filmed for it had an epic chimpout on twatter and Medium when they found out it made them look bad.
Mold girl living in the desert was so crazy. I was surprised she turned down the free offer of stem cell treatment.
The hardest one to watch was the lesbian couple with the "sick" one bleeding the other dry. Falling for dental quackery that is very expensive and claims it can cure anything, having the whole house ripped apart and redone. I hope she left her before she payed for that bogus amalgam filling removal.
I know the CFS dude confined to bed should have been saddest to watch but nope, the dyke was worse. I like when her gay male friend has to sheepishly tell her she's fucking insane in the nicest way possible. She took over 50 "medications" aka supplements and herbal tinctures a day.

I think you’re thinking of Afflicted - that was the one with toxic mold girl and wifi allergies and the CFS dude.

Diagnosis is the one where Lisa Sanders wrote up case reports of a few different people with undiagnosed mystery illnesses in the New York Times and solicited crowdsourced diagnoses from readers and then made a show about it. Some of the people had legit rare issues like an obscure metabolic deficiency but there was one (young, skinny, white) girl who sounded exactly like she was going down the classic POTS n ports n fluids road like a lot of the girls in this thread, and she (and her mom) reeeeally did not want to believe the multiple people who told her she had rumination syndrome. Because it’s a functional disorder so that’s not fun enough I guess.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

The hardest one to watch was the lesbian couple with the "sick" one bleeding the other dry. Falling for dental quackery that is very expensive and claims it can cure anything, having the whole house ripped apart and redone. I hope she left her before she payed for that bogus amalgam filling removal.

Yeah that's Afflicted which, like Jen Brea's movie about her Me/CFS Unrest, was fucking hilarious.

These open letter things that couple wrote on Medium are pretty revealing. The 'sick' one went the "it's not faaaaair I'm really siiiick!" route they all go with a side of "you only did this because I'm a jewish lesbian. this is gaslighting!!!" And then continues to prove it's psychosomatic for 1000+ more words. lol. Less-crazy talked mostly about how the editing was kind of shady to make it a more sensational story which is what all the others claimed as well as many people who were on Intervention and Hoarders. Also says that she knew the angle they would take with the story because she is also a docu editor but the other one wanted to do it. Although she does go into the "omg you need to have your house mold tested!!!" bullshit. (And also plugs their GoFundMe which they used to get the amalgam replacement).

Spoiler: mold sperg

Here's a free mold assessment for you! Do you live somewhere that it rains, ever? Yes? I'm sorry to tell you your house has tons of mold. Mold is everywhere. You can gut your house and start over or build new from the ground up and the mold will come back. It's mold, that's what it do. Unless you're living in one of those bubbles they used to make SCID kids live in or on the surface of the moon you're going to encounter mold. It only becomes a problem if your house is severely water damaged to the point where it's growing up the walls and in the carpets and you don't do anything to clean it up, or if you have a severely compromised immune system. In the former case it's not only the mold itself that's the issue; it's that water damage of that magnitude also brings in all the other fun stuff that enjoys hanging out in wet, dark, warm places like fecal bacteria and Legionella. The fun part of these mold remediation projects people embark on is you are way more likely to disturb actual pathogens and dangerous materials like rodent feces (enjoy your hantavirus!), lead paint, asbestos-containing materials . . . things that actually will kill you. Even in Hoarders shows where houses have been without climate control or cleaning for years the issue is never the mold, it's animal and human feces and volatile organic compounds from decaying "stuff' and building materials.

 

[IBrokeBob]

Yeah that's Afflicted which, like Jen Brea's movie about her Me/CFS Unrest, was fucking hilarious.

These open letter things that couple wrote on Medium are pretty revealing. The 'sick' one went the "it's not faaaaair I'm really siiiick!" route they all go with a side of "you only did this because I'm a jewish lesbian. this is gaslighting!!!" And then continues to prove it's psychosomatic for 1000+ more words. lol. Less-crazy talked mostly about how the editing was kind of shady to make it a more sensational story which is what all the others claimed as well as many people who were on Intervention and Hoarders. Also says that she knew the angle they would take with the story because she is also a docu editor but the other one wanted to do it. Although she does go into the "omg you need to have your house mold tested!!!" bullshit. (And also plugs their GoFundMe which they used to get the amalgam replacement).

Spoiler: mold sperg

Here's a free mold assessment for you! Do you live somewhere that it rains, ever? Yes? I'm sorry to tell you your house has tons of mold. Mold is everywhere. You can gut your house and start over or build new from the ground up and the mold will come back. It's mold, that's what it do. Unless you're living in one of those bubbles they used to make SCID kids live in or on the surface of the moon you're going to encounter mold. It only becomes a problem if your house is severely water damaged to the point where it's growing up the walls and in the carpets and you don't do anything to clean it up, or if you have a severely compromised immune system. In the former case it's not only the mold itself that's the issue; it's that water damage of that magnitude also brings in all the other fun stuff that enjoys hanging out in wet, dark, warm places like fecal bacteria and Legionella. The fun part of these mold remediation projects people embark on is you are way more likely to disturb actual pathogens and dangerous materials like rodent feces (enjoy your hantavirus!), lead paint, asbestos-containing materials . . . things that actually will kill you. Even in Hoarders shows where houses have been without climate control or cleaning for years the issue is never the mold, it's animal and human feces and volatile organic compounds from decaying "stuff' and building materials.

I read Jills reeee om medium, Interesting that the "top highlight" from her reee was " There is a gun n our mouths and we will not stop screaming until you take it out."

Yeah they totally seem like rational people who would never exaggerate.

 

[RacerDee]

Yeah that's Afflicted which, like Jen Brea's movie about her Me/CFS Unrest, was fucking hilarious.

These open letter things that couple wrote on Medium are pretty revealing. The 'sick' one went the "it's not faaaaair I'm really siiiick!" route they all go with a side of "you only did this because I'm a jewish lesbian. this is gaslighting!!!" And then continues to prove it's psychosomatic for 1000+ more words. lol. Less-crazy talked mostly about how the editing was kind of shady to make it a more sensational story which is what all the others claimed as well as many people who were on Intervention and Hoarders. Also says that she knew the angle they would take with the story because she is also a docu editor but the other one wanted to do it. Although she does go into the "omg you need to have your house mold tested!!!" bullshit. (And also plugs their GoFundMe which they used to get the amalgam replacement).

Spoiler: mold sperg

Here's a free mold assessment for you! Do you live somewhere that it rains, ever? Yes? I'm sorry to tell you your house has tons of mold. Mold is everywhere. You can gut your house and start over or build new from the ground up and the mold will come back. It's mold, that's what it do. Unless you're living in one of those bubbles they used to make SCID kids live in or on the surface of the moon you're going to encounter mold. It only becomes a problem if your house is severely water damaged to the point where it's growing up the walls and in the carpets and you don't do anything to clean it up, or if you have a severely compromised immune system. In the former case it's not only the mold itself that's the issue; it's that water damage of that magnitude also brings in all the other fun stuff that enjoys hanging out in wet, dark, warm places like fecal bacteria and Legionella. The fun part of these mold remediation projects people embark on is you are way more likely to disturb actual pathogens and dangerous materials like rodent feces (enjoy your hantavirus!), lead paint, asbestos-containing materials . . . things that actually will kill you. Even in Hoarders shows where houses have been without climate control or cleaning for years the issue is never the mold, it's animal and human feces and volatile organic compounds from decaying "stuff' and building materials.

But what if I force my family to live in a car in the desert, hm? \s

I think that one family lived in their car, and also someone on the show. So I guess no mold in cars... but then again, mold will always exist in the environment.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I read Jills reeee om medium, Interesting that the "top highlight" from her reee was " There is a gun n our mouths and we will not stop screaming until you take it out."

Yeah they totally seem like rational people who would never exaggerate.

The ME/CFS crowd are my favorite. I was reading about a woman who "died from ME" whose family and activists fought to get it listed as her cause of death because legitimizing etc etc. But if you actually read what happened, she was on TPN because she claimed to be physically unable to eat or digest food, she got a line infection or sepsis, the doctors took her central line away, and she starved to death. Another was sectioned and her kidneys failed from dehydration (although all the ME websites also say she had a "massive infection in her spine" which isn't in the inquest into her death as far as I can tell, but the only copies I can find are excerpts on other ME truther sites.)

It's almost like convincing yourself you're super sick is a self-fulfilling prophecy and the less work you make your body do the less it's capable of.

But what if I force my family to live in a car in the desert, hm? \s

I think that one family lived in their car, and also someone on the show. So I guess no mold in cars... but then again, mold will always exist in the environment.

They lived in the desert which is hostile to mold growth, gutted the van down to metal,and used an ozone generator to sanitize everything that entered or left (not the ozone therapy she was using as a medical treatment which is quackery, but actual ozone generators can sanitize. It's not a great solution and, frankly, it's easier to just wipe shit down with lysol in a small space like that, but it's not complete bullshit). While it probably wasn't totally mold free since it was open to the elements, they actually did a fine job of keeping down mold levels. And that's what gives her away. Even living in as close to a mold-free environment as possible without actually leaving the planet, she was still highly symptomatic. Her excuse for that was that she also had SCID but she wasn't receiving appropriate treatments for that and her diagnosis seems to have come from the same quack that told her she had mold issues and chronic lyme.

 

[vapewilder]

Dont people with SCID have really short life expectancies? Like, dont live into adulthood kind of life expectancy? Or am i way off base?

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Dont people with SCID have really short life expectancies? Like, dont live into adulthood kind of life expectancy? Or am i way off base?

Without treatment, they almost invariably die in infancy. They used to be the "bubble boys" who were kept in completely controlled environments. Since then there have been breakthroughs that allow them to live normal lives. The original bubble boy, David Vetter, received one of these treatments in 1984, a bone marrow transplant, but unfortunately the donor marrow had dormant Epstein Barr Virus and he died shortly after. Now they screen for that but at the time apparently it was unknown EBV could even survive dormant in bone marrow.

Now BMT screening has improved and transplants are way more successful. They can even be done before the baby is born so that his immune system will be developed by the time he leaves the womb. It's fucking wild. If successful they have normal immune systems and can live normal lives.

In other words: if she had it and didn't get a BMT, she'd be ded; if she had it and got a successful BMT, then it's not why she's sick.

 

[elliptical narcissist]

The desert mold lady, Bekah, has an IG. https://www.instagram.com/bekahfly/?hl=en She's posted within the last day.

Looking at her artwork makes me think of an old medical book my parents had when I was young. Covered everything medical and had a section on psychology. In that was a chapter with artwork that people with different mental illnesses had done. Bekah's artwork makes me think of schizophrenia, a bit.

 

[ZapThePickle]

So started to watch diagnosis on Netflixs, and its wild how these people are pretty much up shit crick without a paddle, with legitimate issues and can't get any help but these munchies can walk in and get a diagnosis of 37 different things wrong with them....


(Also surprised a lot more munchies didn't try to munch in and diagnose these people during their little town hall meeting when anybody could suggest something.... Also fuck lyme people they are fucking annoying. You fart too hard Lyme disease. Hiccups last a little too long Lyme disease. You can't stare directly into the sun without your eyes burning.....you know it...lyme.)

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

So started to watch diagnosis on Netflixs, and its wild how these people are pretty much up shit crick without a paddle, with legitimate issues and can't get any help but these munchies can walk in and get a diagnosis of 37 different things wrong with them....


(Also surprised a lot more munchies didn't try to munch in and diagnose these people during their little town hall meeting when anybody could suggest something.... Also fuck lyme people they are fucking annoying. You fart too hard Lyme disease. Hiccups last a little too long Lyme disease. You can't stare directly into the sun without your eyes burning.....you know it...lyme.)

If you look at the original articles that the show was based on, it's a whole lot of "I think it's gastroparesis and she also probably has EDS and POTS and MCAS." "You should look into chronic lyme." They just edited it to show the more likely responses.

I found a post by the vomiting girl's mom trying to get a different diagnosis for her a few months ago, where it was 100% "she has gastroparesis, sometimes it doesn't show up on a GES! She should talk to her doctor about TPN."

 

[howmanypizzas69]

Went to thebalancedblonde’s IG because she’s also a “i live in a place where it rains 3 times a year and also am constantly dying of toxic mold” person...


fucking LOL. Fake Lyme disease is a call to wake us up to our higher purpose y’all, you heard it here first!!

 

[IBrokeBob]

Without treatment, they almost invariably die in infancy. They used to be the "bubble boys" who were kept in completely controlled environments. Since then there have been breakthroughs that allow them to live normal lives. The original bubble boy, David Vetter, received one of these treatments in 1984, a bone marrow transplant, but unfortunately the donor marrow had dormant Epstein Barr Virus and he died shortly after. Now they screen for that but at the time apparently it was unknown EBV could even survive dormant in bone marrow.

Now BMT screening has improved and transplants are way more successful. They can even be done before the baby is born so that his immune system will be developed by the time he leaves the womb. It's fucking wild. If successful they have normal immune systems and can live normal lives.

In other words: if she had it and didn't get a BMT, she'd be ded; if she had it and got a successful BMT, then it's not why she's sick.

I recently watched a documentary on him. David made a very valuable contribution to science. Because of his story, the doctors were finally able to link viruses with cancer. The dormant epstein barr virus from his sister bone marrow became active within David, producing hundreds of small tumors and killing him. His transplant was Oct 22 and he died 3 months later.

There is a good documentary on him on youtube.

BodyShock: The Boy In The Bubble - David Vetter [Full Documentary]

On February 22, 1984, Carol Ann Vetter touched her 12-year-old son's hand for the first time. David Vetter had spent his entire life inside a sterile isolato...

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[eternal dog mongler]

my kid says most things go for $30 a pill here

bars in my area are just fent now, going by my patients

Pfizer doesn't even make bars anymore. Haven't for a while. Good luck whatever the fuck is in those things.

 

[circile.circle.dot.dot]

is her spouse too stupid to understand why the MFM has to say NO opioids during the pregnancy? I am assuming she is going to push to take whatever she wants to take in the context of pregnancy anyways, I do not know how likely she is to be successful in that regard. pretty sure there are way more than two MFMs in the state of Florida. Paul is thoroughly unlikeable. Maybe they should ask Judd's significant other could be their surrogate?

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