Creative works you enjoyed until politics happened - "How politics made me hate Welcome to Nightvale and other things"

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

That's probably because D&D's polluting influence happened for the most part. But also I think George R. R. Martin has to shoulder some responsibility for this. He frankly doesn't have a clue how it's going to end other than in very broad terms. How he gets there seems to be outside his understanding. Like the Meereenese Knot. He had no idea how he was going to get Dany to go where he wanted her to be later on, so he contrived something frankly stupid with Drogon crashing a gladiatorial arena. The script needs the plot to happen, y'see.

I agree he probably wrote himself into a corner and had no long term strategy when he made plot decisions based on emotional impact alone,. I think he is good when it comes to small scaled self contained stories, and the best chapters on that saga do read like that, but when it comes to very long epic over arching plots that guy is really punching above his weight, still i feel the books had more potential than what the show became under HBO screen writers but Martin had like a million years and still never finished the saga so of course bottom line it is still his fault it was a shitshow regardless

 

[ToroidalBoat]

If it counts as "creative", then space travel seems to have been derailed by politics*. 50 years later and there's still no manned Moon missions anymore, let alone anywhere else. It almost seems like space travel tech has regressed to the level of early 1960s.

2020 and we're still trapped on this crazy garbage ball of Earth.

*(politics in general)

 

[Ginger Piglet]

If it counts as "creative", then space travel seems to have been derailed by politics*. 50 years later and there's still no manned moon missions anymore, let alone anywhere else. It almost seems like space travel tech has regressed to the level of early 1960s.

2020 and we're still trapped on the crazy garbage ball called Earth.

*(politics in general)

You would have thought so, but there are signs of life. Falcon Heavy and similar are less expensive and more reusable thanks to the onward march of technology than the big Saturn V rockets and suchlike. Then again, the US space program was basically a cover for research into ICBMs because Cold War. That's why, incidentally, there are materials used in the Saturn V that nobody has a clue what they are, because they were classified and the plans were deliberately lost or destroyed so that Soviet spies couldn't make use of them in their own ICBMs.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

I’m not sure if it counts here as it’s not an author or artist per se but an artisanal soap and bath product maker. I used to really like their products but haven’t boight from them in awhile. But they post so much political posts on their fb page now that has nothing to do with their products. A lot of anti-republican stuff too like usual. I find posting unrelated political junk on a page for your products tacky to begin with but eh. What makes it worse is their reaction to people being confused about all the posts, or saying that it’s off-topic. Saying that EVERYTHING is political (even soap...?) and since they have a platform they have the responsibility of being woke and progressive in the most snide way.

I get not liking certain politicians or their beliefs. But it turns me off big time when it’s so childish and forced on people. A lot of Facebook pages lately about non-political topics have become exclusively political and it’s irritating. Time and place.

I've had to delete most of the sewing and knitting sites I followed, they got so political, that it ruined the fun of reading them.
On one site, a woman posted a picture of Melania Trump and asked if anyone knew of a pattern similar to the dress she was wearing.
You thought she had asked for the best way to barbecue baby seals.

The moderators couldn't or didn't want to stop the horrible things being said, either.

For a long time, the knitting sites were all about making the pink pussy hats. No thank you.
Ravelry went off the deep end completely, you knit a Trump cap and you're not permitted to post a picture of it.

I now refuse to buy OPI nail polish after they called George Floyd a hero on Instagram.
A fucking HERO.

That meteor can't get here fast enough.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

Every game series I enjoyed, every show I watched, every youtuber or comedian. Everything is pozzed now. Cant even go to the fucking store without seeing some BLM shit, or "not my president resist REEEE" stickers. Try to play some CoD warzone? Fuck you, you need to read shit about how muh racism is bad before murdering people in a virtual world (also the default soldier is black, the fucking irony). Sites I used to partake in are pozzing their comments sections, deleting accounts if they make a nazi joke.

Outside of kiwifarms I really dont browse the internet anymore. I dont play tabletop games anymore, nor do I play video games outside of the switch, but even that is edging the wrong direction. I work on my cars and build my trains, but I know its only a matter of time until I have to submit to some bullshit racial purity test to buy a set of 460 engine headers.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

I've had to delete most of the sewing and knitting sites I followed, they got so political, that it ruined the fun of reading them.
On one site, a woman posted a picture of Melania Trump and asked if anyone knew of a pattern similar to the dress she was wearing.
You thought she had asked for the best way to barbecue baby seals.

The moderators couldn't or didn't want to stop the horrible things being said, either.

For a long time, the knitting sites were all about making the pink pussy hats. No thank you.
Ravelry went off the deep end completely, you knit a Trump cap and you're not permitted to post a picture of it.

I now refuse to buy OPI nail polish after they called George Floyd a hero on Instagram.
A fucking HERO.

That meteor can't get here fast enough.

I remember there was some drama about how a knitting blogger who went to India was cancelled for it because cultural appropriation.

I also found this. Some other knitting blogger named her yarn colours "problematic" and "gaslight" and "microaggression" and was shrieked at over it. I particularly liked these:

T R U L Y D I S G U S T I N G

 

[Local Fed]

I've had to delete most of the sewing and knitting sites I followed, they got so political, that it ruined the fun of reading them.
On one site, a woman posted a picture of Melania Trump and asked if anyone knew of a pattern similar to the dress she was wearing.
You thought she had asked for the best way to barbecue baby seals.

The moderators couldn't or didn't want to stop the horrible things being said, either.

For a long time, the knitting sites were all about making the pink pussy hats. No thank you.
Ravelry went off the deep end completely, you knit a Trump cap and you're not permitted to post a picture of it.

I now refuse to buy OPI nail polish after they called George Floyd a hero on Instagram.
A fucking HERO.

That meteor can't get here fast enough.

Are you allowed to call your fellow enthusiasts on those sites 'knitters' with the hard R?

 

[Mola Ram]

Genre fiction has been a trashfire for years and it's doubly dispiriting when you're trying to break into it. Perfect example from the last couple days. The Hugo Awards were just held, and thanks to the coof it was done remotely. Now, the Hugos have been a joke for years (NK Jemisin's threepeat is just the tip of the shitberg), and I'm not going to get into the Sad Puppies saga. It's just too much and too complicated.

George R.R. Martin served as toastmaster this year, and despite being a staunch defender of the wokeness that's polluted the industry, he's on the receiving end of a cancel mob. What did he do? Well, he spent a lot of time praising John W. Campbell, to begin with. You may recall Campbell, despite his enormous contributions to the genre, was cancelled himself recently for his problematic beliefs and for being a dead white man. (In fact, the pissy little twat who spent her acceptance speech for the former Campbell award burning the man in effigy won a Hugo for that speech this year -- best derivative work, or something. That should tell you how far things have fallen.) That earned him a lot of grousing.

But his real crime was ...

... wait for it ...

... mispronouncing a bunch of names.

I'll give you a moment to recover.

Yes, ol' George mispronounced such easy to pronounce names as Nnedi Okorafor, Chimedum Ohaegbu, and Amal El-Mohtar. He also pronounced black genre mag Fiyah as "fee-ya," which probably is a little obnoxious, because that's one he should know. Anyway, no allowances are being made for the fact these remarks were pre-recorded or the generally thrown-together nature of the virtual ceremony. They are just going wild on Twitter about it, claiming there's a big difference accidental mispronunuciation and deliberately mangling it, which some of them are claiming is literal violence. Because if GRRM is known for anything, it's crushing the ambitions of up-and-coming writers from minority communities.

Here's a good sample of the insanity. Just imagine trying to cater to these lunatics, and you may understand why there are days I think about torching all my manuscripts and going to be a plumber or something.

George R.R. Martin Can Fuck Off Into the Sun, or: The 2020 Hugo Award…

archived 2 Aug 2020 15:46:08 UTC

archive.is

 

[Ginger Piglet]

They are just going wild on Twitter about it, claiming there's a big difference accidental mispronunuciation and deliberately mangling it, which some of them are claiming is literal violence.

Would it matter even if it was accidental? These people believe that intent is irrevelant because the damage and the impact are the same regardless.

 

[Mola Ram]

Would it matter even if it was accidental? These people believe that intent is irrevelant because the damage and the impact are the same regardless.

Of course it wouldn't, and it doesn't. The ceremony was thrown together in an ad hoc fashion, and GRRM has even said he didn't have the time or the contact information to get all 120+ names and their pronunciations. I have no doubt it was accidental. I think the real issue is 1) the Campbell stuff (also they're pissed over praise given to Asimov and Harlan Ellison) and 2) his wealth and success. There are quite a few posts bitching about how some of his awards and book covers and stuff were visible in his videos. There's a huge canker of envy in these people, though they'll never admit it.

 

[LetterlandMafia]

Genre fiction has been a trashfire for years and it's doubly dispiriting when you're trying to break into it. Perfect example from the last couple days. The Hugo Awards were just held, and thanks to the coof it was done remotely. Now, the Hugos have been a joke for years (NK Jemisin's threepeat is just the tip of the shitberg), and I'm not going to get into the Sad Puppies saga. It's just too much and too complicated.

George R.R. Martin served as toastmaster this year, and despite being a staunch defender of the wokeness that's polluted the industry, he's on the receiving end of a cancel mob. What did he do? Well, he spent a lot of time praising John W. Campbell, to begin with. You may recall Campbell, despite his enormous contributions to the genre, was cancelled himself recently for his problematic beliefs and for being a dead white man. (In fact, the pissy little twat who spent her acceptance speech for the former Campbell award burning the man in effigy won a Hugo for that speech this year -- best derivative work, or something. That should tell you how far things have fallen.) That earned him a lot of grousing.

But his real crime was ...

... wait for it ...

... mispronouncing a bunch of names.

I'll give you a moment to recover.

Yes, ol' George mispronounced such easy to pronounce names as Nnedi Okorafor, Chimedum Ohaegbu, and Amal El-Mohtar. He also pronounced black genre mag Fiyah as "fee-ya," which probably is a little obnoxious, because that's one he should know. Anyway, no allowances are being made for the fact these remarks were pre-recorded or the generally thrown-together nature of the virtual ceremony. They are just going wild on Twitter about it, claiming there's a big difference accidental mispronunuciation and deliberately mangling it, which some of them are claiming is literal violence. Because if GRRM is known for anything, it's crushing the ambitions of up-and-coming writers from minority communities.

Here's a good sample of the insanity. Just imagine trying to cater to these lunatics, and you may understand why there are days I think about torching all my manuscripts and going to be a plumber or something.

http://archive.md/EeivO

SFF is dead. It's now the stomping ground of a gang of narcissistic assholes who demand everyone fall exactly into line, and if you dare speak up or try and counter them they say you're racist and sexist and try and drive you out of the industry. It does genuinely piss me off, not so much because I'm an SFF fan but because it's infuriating to watch crybullies succeed.

 

[Mola Ram]

SFF is dead. It's now the stomping ground of a gang of narcissistic assholes who demand everyone fall exactly into line, and if you dare speak up or try and counter them they say you're racist and sexist and try and drive you out of the industry. It does genuinely piss me off, not so much because I'm an SFF fan but because it's infuriating to watch crybullies succeed.

Good examples of the sort of tweets I'm talking about right here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/yabookgate.55664/page-56#post-7040473

 

[ToroidalBoat]

pozzing

cultural appropriation

Hopefully not in India.

I also hope this fever pitch Mega Clown World identity politics in the wake of the protests are pretty much confined to the West.

 

[Cyclonus]

If it counts as "creative", then space travel seems to have been derailed by politics*. 50 years later and there's still no manned Moon missions anymore, let alone anywhere else. It almost seems like space travel tech has regressed to the level of early 1960s.

2020 and we're still trapped on this crazy garbage ball of Earth.

*(politics in general)

That's because colonising other worlds is male patriarchal entitlement, shitlord:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna849681

 

[ToroidalBoat]

You would have thought so, but there are signs of life.

Still, I'm probably not going to be impressed unless there's manned missions beyond Earth orbit, or spaceflight becomes more available to the average person. Earth is like a prison now.

Also transportation tech in general seems to be stagnant or regressing. No more supersonic flights anymore, for one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna849681

"The patriarchal race to colonize Mars is just another example of male entitlement"

Space travel too? Anything the "woke" virus doesn't infect?

Also the BS headline reads like a thing from a feminist site - but no, in Current Year Clown World, that's from a mainstream news source. I knew "wokeness" was bad, but not this bad. Like I said, hopefully this cancer is pretty much just a Western thing.

 

[Cyclonus]

I guess in billions of years time when the sun swells into a red giant our descendants will have to stay on earth and be roasted to a crisp or they're displaying male entitlement.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

stay on earth [...] or they're displaying male entitlement

One could argue staying on Earth is "male entitlement" somehow.

 

[Cyclonus]

You could say anything men do, say or feel is male entitlement if you're woke enough.

 

[Local Fed]

One could argue staying on Earth is "male entitlement" somehow.

We're all occupying MOTHER earth without her consent.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

if you're woke enough

The ideal world to the "woke":

- all white people gone
- then all men gone
- then new "privileged" groups among "PoC" gone
- eventually everyone is gone
- "social justice" is finally achieved