Opinion It's time to start handing out fines to people who refuse to wear masks


It's time to start handing out fines to people who refuse to wear masks

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  • Certain conservatives cannot be persuaded into wearing masks. They've even gone so far as to protest against it.
  • In the wake of this sentiment, we as a society must do something to protect our friends, neighbors, and loved ones.
  • A fine for not wearing masks must be considered as a viable option.
  • Kathi Valeii is a writer living in Southwest Michigan.
  • This is an opinion column. The thoughts expressed are those of the author.
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My son arrived home and I instructed him to drop his mask in the clothes basket by the door and to go straight to the shower. It's the Coronavirus-era protocol we use in our household for returning from errands, jobs, and now, driver ed. I've been nervous about every new exposure as the state opened up and restrictions were eased, but I found myself especially worried about driver ed because when classes resumed, we were told that masks would be optional.

I wanted to be able to trust that a school would take the highest precautions, but health recommendations have been politicized and those politics have crept into how businesses determine safety protocols, like when or if masks will be requisite. And without enforcement, there is no recourse in a situation like this.

When my son came down from his shower, I asked, "Did everyone wear masks?" He shrugged. "Did your instructor wear a mask?" I asked, my panic bubbling to the surface. "No," he said, then quickly told me not to make a deal out of it, that he wanted to finish, that he was almost done.

I did want to make a deal out of it, though, because all I could think about are the tiny particles that escape from the mouth when we talk; how this man irresponsibly stood in front of a classroom for two hours, emitting respiratory droplets in an enclosed room, where they cycled and hovered for the duration of the class.

How do you encourage a group of teens to don a mask when the grown adult in the room refuses to put one on, himself? The answer is, you don't. By the end of the week, my son was the only one left with a mask on at all.

But, what could I do? My son was two classes away from completing his requirements. If he didn't finish now, when would he? So, we let him finish his classes and crossed our fingers and hoped for the best. For families of students starting classes this week, though, they can do more than cross their fingers; they can request help with enforcement.

Legal options
On July 10, Michigan's Governor Whitmer announced an Executive Order that would enforce a requirement to wear a face mask while in public. Businesses must require staff and patrons to wear masks or risk having their license suspended, and individuals, with limited exceptions, must wear masks in public or risk a $500 fine.

It is now well-known that masks are an essential factor in reducing the spread of COVID-19. A recent study shows that 45,000 deaths could be avoided by November if 95% of people wore masks in public. The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that if everyone in America were to wear a mask, the virus could be under control in four to eight weeks. And with mounting evidence that coronavirus is airborne, masks in public are more non-negotiable than ever before.

But, it seems that no amount of education about how masks work to protect other people will sway some conservatives, who feel that flaunting an uncovered face is more than a personal choice — it's a political display of their "freedom" and "rights."

But studies also showed that buckling up in a car can cut the risk of fatal injury almost in half and, over time, seat belt laws and fines have worked to shift the culture of seat belt wearing. Enforcing mask mandates can work in the same way. If people won't mask up out of common courtesy and respect for the health and safety of those around them, then maybe they will feel compelled to do so for the sake of their own pocketbook.

The executive order makes exceptions for people with medical conditions that can't tolerate wearing a face mask, and some businesses have used that caveat, citing ADA and HIPAA laws as thinly veiled excuses to staunchly display their conservative political badge.

But to comply with ADA guidelines, businesses would merely have to make reasonable accommodations. Curbside pickup and delivery, which most businesses that are still surviving are already doing, are reasonable accommodations in a scenario like this one. HIPAA laws, which prevent health plans and health care providers from sharing a patient's medical records or private medical information, don't apply to this situation.

Even more alarming than select businesses claiming to honor their patrons' "rights" to shop unmasked are a handful of sheriff's departments in the state that have released statements saying that they won't enforce the order. In other words, police forces are aligning themselves with mostly entitled white people who refuse to comply with efforts to contain the spread of a virus. And amid the current uprising against police violence against Black people, it is particularly telling that this issue is where a sheriff's office will choose to speak out and draw a line in the sand.

The unfortunate backlash
The other day, my oldest son, who works at a grocery store, told me about the latest irate shoppers who were asked to mask-up or leave. The couple yelled and waved their phone in the manager's face to show the supposed laws they claimed the store was breaking by denying them entry. The manager calmly relayed the alternatives of curbside pickup or delivery that they could utilize if they couldn't wear a mask. They eventually sulked away.

But these encounters don't always end with verbal abuse. Throughout the state, interactions like these have escalated to physical violence against store patrons and staff who make requests for others to use a face covering. These (mostly low-wage) workers have had to endure an uptick in this kind of violence from a swath of people who refuse to wear a mask on a philosophical hill they're willing to let everyone die on. Store greeters job descriptions are now more like those of nightclub bouncers, with the expectation that a significant portion of their job is to endure abuse from belligerent people.

The select Michigan sheriffs who are taking this stance are placing their politics over the lives of the people in their communities by enabling behavior that increases the spread of the virus. And, importantly, they are placing front line workers' lives, like my son's, in danger — not just from the potential of repeated exposure to the virus, but from the violent behavior of entitled patrons.

Both of my kids deserve better. We all do. A driver's ed instructor or retail shopper shouldn't get to choose whether to wear a mask based on what makes them feel more comfortable or based on their own, political ideology.

During a pandemic, individuals, businesses, and government agencies should be making choices and policies based on the best interest of public health, not allegiance to some political stripe. And if it takes a hefty fine to compel some people to care, so be it.

Kathi Valeii's journalism and essays focus on parenting, identity, and justice issues, and often the intersection of those topics. Her work has been featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post, Rolling Stone, Pacific Standard Magazine, and many others. She lives in Southwest Michigan with her partner and three children.

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How dare the conservatives protest against what they consider to be governmental tyranny?? But muh greater good.
Shut the fuck up, Karen.
Giving the government another excuse to take people's money won't fix a shit hole society.
 
That's because conservatives believe in science, only a science denying Biden Bro would go against the advice of people who know viruses like flip floppin' Fauci.

There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
-Flip Floppin' Fauci
60 Minutes
March 10

Ah yes, the old "Fauci isn't on our side so he's a quack". Textbook. Also that interview is form MARCH. Circumstances have changed.

And also, it doesn't matter if it's a placebo, do it anyway. If it could stop the virus 15 percent of the time it's worth it. Doctors don't need to wash their hands or wear masks before every medical procedure when dealing with mucous membranes. but they do anyway.
 
Ah yes, the old "Fauci isn't on our side so he's a quack". Textbook.
No, it''s the old "Fauci is a quack because when push comes to shove he doesn't follow his own advice nor do any of these other Democratic hacks.

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This is my idiotic governor, who incidentally is a doctor too, not wearing a mask the same weekend he mandated them across the state of Virginia.

Nobody is his team or security detail is wearing a mask either ,that guy in the right is clearly a state trooper assigned to his detail.

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And also, it doesn't matter if it's a placebo, do it anyway. If it could stop the virus 15 percent of the time it's worth it. Doctors don't need to wash their hands or wear masks before every medical procedure when dealing with mucous membranes. but they do anyway.

Yes, doctors wash their hands before they put on their mask, they wash their hands when they take off their mask.

You on the other hand leave your mask hanging from the rear view mirror of your car, touch everything under the fucking sun, then touch your mask.
 
No, it''s the old "Fauci is a quack because when push comes to shove he doesn't follow his own advice nor do any of these other Democratic hacks.

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This is my idiotic governor, who incidentally is a doctor too, not wearing a mask the same weekend he mandated them across the state of Virginia.

Nobody is his team or security dealer is wearing a mask either ,that guy in the right is clearly a state trooper assigned to his detail.

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Yes, doctors wash their hands before they put on their mask, they wash their hands when they take off their mask.

You on the other hand leave your mask hanging from the rear view mirror of your car, touch everything under the fucking sun, then touch your mask.
So your governor isn't a good role model, that does not mean ergo it's a falsehood.
Also yes I do touch things in my car as it's a personal space like my home. When I get out of my car I put on my mask and am mindful of where i'm putting my hands so as to not spread viruses or bacteria through contact. Grocery stores have gallon jugs of sanitizer for this reason.
 
I see people with beards wearing the most basic of masks....its not going to help you its literally ineffective because of your beard. I also see people wearing it only over their mouth and not their nose.
If they are serious about this mask thing they need to inform people how to properly wear one and to test that it to make sure its on correctly. Fining people will only irritate everyone even more as everyone knows it will not be evenly spread and pretty much used as a power move when covenant.
 
Fining people will only irritate everyone
Fining people accomplishes something else.

Putting money in the pockets of Bureaucrats.

Edit : By the way, fining people for not having masks is the worst idea in the entirety of Carona. It means that the government has an financial incentive to never declare the emergency over. Do you really want your state government to actively have an incentive to have a perpetual lock down for the rest of eternity?
 
Bro, lemme be. I wear it at the stores and the businesses without a whine. That should be enough!

I should make a political party...it'd be called the LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE PARTY. We're like libertarians, but we stress minarchism as the most important factor of a healthy society.
 
So your governor isn't a good role model, that does not mean ergo it's a falsehood.
Also yes I do touch things in my car as it's a personal space like my home. When I get out of my car I put on my mask and am mindful of where i'm putting my hands so as to not spread viruses or bacteria through contact. Grocery stores have gallon jugs of sanitizer for this reason.
The point is these Dems do not practice what they preach. They say listen to the science and the science says mask don't do shit. They ignore it and force everyone to wear masks. Because at the end of the day, its all about control. They want to be fascists, force people to follow bullshit rules, and want to come down on people like a sack of bricks when they break the rules. But they're exempt from it for some bullshit reason.

I'm not against masks. I don't think they do dick when protecting people against Covid. And the science seem to agree with me. But if people want to wear a mask and use it like a security blanket, more power to them. Don't force me and others to follow your rules because you fear dying. If I die, I die. Let my family mourn and move on with life.

Fuck off.
 
The point is these Dems do not practice what they preach. They say listen to the science and the science says mask don't do shit. They ignore it and force everyone to wear masks. They want to be fascists and force people to follow bullshit rules and want to come down on people like a sack of bricks when they break the rules. But they're exempt from it for some bullshit reason.

Fuck off.
You fuck off.
In what world do you live in where Dems get off scot free? I was seeing loads of self policing and shaming of non mask wearing protestors in social media, and many people still stayed inside. And if 70 percent of Dems wear masks compared to 20 percent of GOPpers, Dems are following it better. And even if, EVEN IF, the dems were not following it well, that gives you no excuse to act like a reincarnation of Papa Nurgle and spit and spread vile contaminants everywhere.

Also you sound like a tumblr user, admitting the other side of fascism. That word has been dragged 80 miles through mud and mountain range by this point.
 
Masks don't work though. They stop you from spreading it,but they don't stop you from catching it. Just get a respirator.

Yeah, who cares about other people?

This dumbass thinks HIPAA can be done away with over masks?

HIPAA Doesn't work that way. HIPAA only applies to people who have access to your medical chart.

Except, as study after study has shown, surgical masks do jack shit to stop the spread of viruses, because droplets are not viruses. Consistent workplace use of masks in previous years showed 0 difference in cold and flu cases. Consistent use of cloth masks INCREASED case numbers by up to 30%. Long term use of masks was also linked with lower blood oxygen levels, which is linked to lower immune system functionality.

Coronavirus is no different then rinoviruses or influenzas. Unless your mask is magically filtering particles smaller then 3 micros, it is as useful as you putting your hand over your nose.

This is gonna be a hard concept for you, but bear with me. The virus doesn't just fly out of your mouth by itself. It travels in mucus, spit, etc... The mask keeps that in. Masks have been proven to work pretty damn well at slowing the spread, despite what your boomer uncle might say on Facebook.
 
I never said i "don't care about other people". Masks just don't help in the long run. It's not hard to grasp.

Except they do work long term. Countries where people have masks have greatly slowed the spread. So much so that they're basically back to normal now. It's really not difficult. I know you can understand this. I believe in you.

Is it really that hard to put a mask on when you are around people? Or are you just so fat and out of shape that you can't breathe through a mask? Because if so, you should get in shape because that puts you at high risk for covid
 
Except they do work long term. Countries where people have masks have greatly slowed the spread. So much so that they're basically back to normal now. It's really not difficult. I know you can understand this. I believe in you.

Is it really that hard to put a mask on when you are around people? Or are you just so fat and out of shape that you can't breathe through a mask? Because if so, you should get in shape because that puts you at high risk for covid
You're forgetting the fact masks only help you not SPREAD it. Am i denying the fact that they slow spread? No. But am i saying that using them for too long can cause some actual damage to your body.
 
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You're forgetting the fact masks only help you not SPREAD it. Am i denying the fact that they slow spread? No. But am i saying that using them for too long can cause some actual damage to your body.

Lol unless you are wearing the mask for like 3 days straight, then you might get some marks on your skin from it. Surgeons wear them for 12+ hours at a time and don't have any issues. There's nothing bad that can happen from wearing a mask too long

Also, the red part is 100% correct and is my point. Masks are to protect everyone. If everyone wears the mask, then everyone will not be spreading it and thus it will die down. That is why it's so important people wear them.
 
Lol unless you are wearing the mask for like 3 days straight, you might get some marks on your skin from it. Surgeons wear them for 12+ hours at a time and don't have any issues. There's nothing bad that can happen from wearing a mask too long

Also, the red part is 100% correct and is my point. Masks are to protect everyone. If everyone wears the mask, then everyone will not be spreading it and thus it will die down. That is why it's so important people wear them. It's not a hard concept. You can do this.
Once again,you don't get my point. I'm not saying you shouldn't wear masks,i'm just saying that WEARING THEM FOR HOURS ON END IN URBAN AREAS IS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH IN THE LONG RUN. That's it.
 
Once again,you don't get my point. I'm not saying you shouldn't wear masks,i'm just saying that WEARING THEM FOR HOURS ON END IN URBAN AREAS IS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH IN THE LONG RUN. That's it.

How is it bad for your health in the long run? Surgeons wear them for 12+ hours at a time and don't have issues.
 
You're forgetting the fact masks only help you not SPREAD it. Am i denying the fact that they slow spread? No. But am i saying that using them for too long can cause some actual damage to your body.

My job mandates I wear a heavy-duty rubber filter mask that weighs like a pound and has a tight seal around the entire facial area. I have worn it for up to six hours at a time, and the worst it's ever done is leave a slight red line on my skin that fades within an hour. I can safely say from experience that you are absolutely wrong about this.
 
How is it bad for your health in the long run? Surgeons wear them for 12+ hours at a time and don't have issues.
If you're outside,breathing in other germs,with a mask restricting oxygen,for 4+ hrs,then you'd see the problem,right?
Surgeons stay in a sterilized environment,safe from anything bunching up in their mask.
DO YOU GET MY POINT NOW?
 
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