2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Syaoran Li]

Internet ‘traditionalists’ are largely Catholics (or pretending to be), and while Catholics have certainly been part of the Religious Right, such as on abortion, the movement was largely Evangelical Protestants. Tradcaths are also more likely to be vaguely economically left wing.

Actual religious conservative beliefs are not popular, outside of abortion. Americans want legal booze, legal weed, legal porn, and casual sex. The working class is only socially conservative relative to wokies. When 70% of Americans without a college degree* have at least one child out of wedlock, they cannot be meaningfully described as socially conservative.

*I realize this doesn’t perfectly align with ‘working class’, but it’s what everyone else uses.

True, I have noted many times that the traditionalist faggots are mostly Catholic Zoomers while the OG Religious Right from the 80's and 90's were Evangelical Protestants, and I honestly think that part of why so many Zoomers went to Catholicism as opposed to Protestantism is because of the old Religious Right and its failures.

Even traditionalist Catholicism is less austere than the traditionalist Evangelical Protestants (who tend to lean in a Calvinist, Pentecostal, or conservative Baptist direction) and Catholicism has a stronger historical tradition in Western Civilization, with the Anglosphere being the one major exception where Protestantism was the norm. Plus, the Catholic Church tends to accept the theory of evolution as opposed to Young Earth Creationism and isn't as outwardly anti-science or redneck-adjacent as the Evangelical Protestants were. So that is a plus in the eyes of the Gen Z Right.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "fundies are bad like SJW's" rhetoric of the early 2014-2016 counterculture rubbed off on the Core Zoomers and that's why they gravitate towards Catholic instead of Protestant Christianity, since even the traditionalist and conservative Roman Catholics stayed out of the last culture war (Liberals and Libertarians vs. Religious Right and Neocons) for the most part and only stepped in to back the Religious Right on a few issues like abortion. The anti-Catholic lunacy of Jack Chick and WBC may also have played a small role in this as well.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

True, I have noted many times that the traditionalist faggots are mostly Catholic Zoomers while the OG Religious Right from the 80's and 90's were Evangelical Protestants, and I honestly think that part of why so many Zoomers went to Catholicism as opposed to Protestantism is because of the old Religious Right and its failures.

Even traditionalist Catholicism is less austere than the traditionalist Evangelical Protestants (who tend to lean in a Calvinist, Pentecostal, or conservative Baptist direction) and Catholicism has a stronger historical tradition in Western Civilization, with the Anglosphere being the one major exception where Protestantism was the norm. Plus, the Catholic Church tends to accept the theory of evolution as opposed to Young Earth Creationism and isn't as outwardly anti-science or redneck-adjacent as the Evangelical Protestants were. So that is a plus in the eyes of the Gen Z Right.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "fundies are bad like SJW's" rhetoric of the early 2014-2016 counterculture rubbed off on the Core Zoomers and that's why they gravitate towards Catholic instead of Protestant Christianity, since even the traditionalist and conservative Roman Catholics stayed out of the last culture war (Liberals and Libertarians vs. Religious Right and Neocons) for the most part and only stepped in to back the Religious Right on a few issues like abortion. The anti-Catholic lunacy of Jack Chick and WBC may also have played a small role in this as well.

Yeah, and if you grew up Fundie, or Fundie-adjacent Protestant, becoming Catholic is edgy. (If you’re a liberal and you grew up Fundie, you become Episcopalian or Unitarian). And you can drink.

Also, a lot of Evangelical churches aggressively try to be cool to get young people to show up. Catholicism, but especially Traditional Catholicism, doesn’t. The whole appeal of the Latin mass is that it isn’t modernist. The megachurch with the contemporary worship music is peak modernist. It feels fake.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Also, a lot of Evangelical churches aggressively try to be cool to get young people to show up. Catholicism, but especially Traditional Catholicism, doesn’t. The whole appeal of the Latin mass is that it isn’t modernist. The megachurch with the contemporary worship music is peak modernist. It feels fake.

You see some crazy stuff at urban UU churches.

 

[Honest Coyote]

One thing about the religious right is the failure to actually confront problems. One of the main issues, homosexuality, was an emotional smokescreen for the congregation's marital failings (divorce). I'm a middle millennial, and I literally know more people with a parent and stepparent getting divorced than their original parents still together. A truly edgy pastor would be criticizing the divorce lifestyle instead of the fag one. I bet a lot of millennial nonsense comes from divorced parents and broken homes. If you try mentioning to a boomer though, you'll be branded the devil.

 

[UselessIdiot]

What Happened to Stacey Abrams Will Happen to Joe Biden
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-stacey-abrams-will-happen-to-joe-biden (https://archive.vn/PpTSD)

Excerpt:


All of that is a lie. It's debunked here:

We're seeing a lot of narrative-building already of Trump "stealing" the upcoming election. Is there something going on behind the scenes? Are the polls really skewed? No faith in Biden winning because of his cognitive decline? All his VP options suck and will sink him? No good replacement if they dump Biden? Too many people turned off the left because off from Antifa and BLM dumb-fuckery?

It's like they're already starting to give up.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

One thing about the religious right is the failure to actually confront problems. One of the main issues, homosexuality, was an emotional smokescreen for the congregation's marital failings (divorce). I'm a middle millennial, and I literally know more people with a parent and stepparent getting divorced than their original parents still together. A truly edgy pastor would be criticizing the divorce lifestyle instead of the fag one. I bet a lot of millennial nonsense comes from divorced parents and broken homes. If you try mentioning to a boomer though, you'll be branded the devil.

This is another appeal of Catholicism, especially really traditional Catholicism — marriage is forever and divorce and remarriage is a sin.
There really aren’t that many gay people, but there’s a lot of broken homes. A child is most likely to be sexually abused by their stepfather.

The sexual revolution and its consequences have been disastrous for America and every other Western country, and I say that as a liberal.

The problem (trying to get back on topic) is Republican politicians clearly don’t give a damn about moral values. It’s not just Trump. Mitch McConnell: divorced and remarried. Newt Gingrich: divorced and remarried twice, and both of his additional marriages started as affairs. Rudy Giuliani: married and divorced thrice. I could go on. Unfortunately neoconservatism allows for this kind of behavior.

 

[babadook]

Honestly it's no surprise Christian religion is reviled in the US since all the sects that were considered too extreme in the old world got shipped there and laid the religious foundation of the nation

 

[StarkRavingMad]

If there's one potentially positive thing to come from COVID-19, it's that the ONE aspect of life that hasn't been broken entirely has been the nuclear family.

I have never seen so many families going outside together before in my adult life. It's amazing to see the neighborhoods and public areas flooded with families spending time together-- the one thing that has been pleasant to see in 2020, to be honest.

All of this may serve as a cultural reset, in a good way. I think a lot of people are being shaken into the realization about how important the family unit is. Right now, I see a huge opportunity for social conservatives to make their beliefs known about the importance of the nuclear family, because I think that a lot of Americans are ready and eager to listen right now. I guess it all depends on whether conservatives finally grow a collective pair of balls to actually take advantage of the opportunity that has been given to them.

Nobody wants the religious right to make a strong comeback or anything ... But, as the years have gone by, I realize how important many traditional values are, especially when concerning families. We are now seeing the consequences of letting the moral fiber/the nuclear family of the country be torn to shreds for the past 50-60 years, and it isn't pretty at all.

In the political sense, I think that Trump has been fantastic compared to Bill Clinton, Dubya, and Obama. He's been working to undo the shit that all three previous administrations are guilty of (China and NK, I'm looking at you). He's also been the most anti-abortion POTUS since before Roe v. Wade, to be quite honest. Trump has done quite a bit to appeal to the Christian Right, despite his personal character being very questionable. Haha. It helps that he isn't a Current Year Democrat (tm); that's taken Trump far with all Republican voters at this point. The Democrats are just that awful.

I think Trump is doing a good job of dismantling the neocon sect of the Republican Party that has been far too prevalent for multiple decades. Republican voters are now seeing what has been wrong with their own party for so long, and it's great. Trump has been the enema that Republicans have needed. However, yes, I do believe we need a leader who can actually promote the traditional family. Honestly, I think Trump could do it and make it appealing to most Americans if he wanted to; traditional families benefit the economy, after all.

 

[ditto]

Howie Hawkins has officially won the Green Party’s nomination for president.
His running mate is Angela Nicole Walker, a truck driver and union organizer from Wisconsin. Howie is a former UPS delivery driver.

https://wskg.org/news/upstates-howie-hawkins-picked-as-green-party-candidate-for-president/

https://archive.vn/uuxUa

“If you are a Bernie Sanders supporter and you were for Medicare for All, and a full strength Green New Deal, and student and medical debt relief, and tuition-free public college, and you vote for Joe Biden? Nobody knows you stand for that. Your vote won’t count for that,” Hawkins said. “You’ll get lost in the sauce, because you voted for Joe Biden, who opposes all those things.”

...

After accepting the party’s nomination, Hawkins ticked through the issues that he has pushed in his previous campaigns, including a poverty bill of rights, and decriminalization of drugs.

But it’s not just the issues Hawkins wants voters to take into consideration on Election Day. It’s getting the Green Party on a national political stage that is dominated by two parties. He admitted it’s hard cracking the national media concentration on Republicans and Democrats.

“And I’m looking at you NPR, and PBS, and MSNBC, and CNN, and the New York Times. You’ve been acting like state media stenographers for the two-party corporate state. Do your job, cover the issues, let the Green Party into the debate,” he said.

Seriously, if you doubts that he's the real deal, check out his interview with Chris Hedges.

Chris tries to bait Howie into a 3 minutes hate at Trump, but Howie fires back with pointed and blistering criticism of the corrupt bipartisian system.

 

[Overly Serious]

We're seeing a lot of narrative-building already of Trump "stealing" the upcoming election. Is there something going on behind the scenes? Are the polls really skewed? No faith in Biden winning because of his cognitive decline? All his VP options suck and will sink him? No good replacement if they dump Biden? Too many people turned off the left because off from Antifa and BLM dumb-fuckery?

It's like they're already starting to give up.

A lot of what we see is laying the groundwork for challenging the results of the election if and when Trump wins. Which is why there needs to be a real push right now to lay down protocols for what meets a successful challenge and how to handle it. Republicans have to force the Left to publically agree to such protocols before they're needed. Otherwise there are literally going to be fatal outcomes.

Honestly it's no surprise Christian religion is reviled in the US since all the sects that were considered too extreme in the old world got shipped there and laid the religious foundation of the nation

Extreme as opposed to Anglicans, where it's an open question whether or not they actually believe in God?

Howie Hawkins has officially won the Green Party’s nomination for president.
His running mate is Angela Nicole Walker, a truck driver and union organizer from Wisconsin. Howie is a former UPS delivery driver.

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https://wskg.org/news/upstates-howie-hawkins-picked-as-green-party-candidate-for-president/

https://archive.vn/uuxUa

Seriously, if you doubts that he's the real deal, check out his interview with Chris Hedges.

Chris tries to bait Howie into a 3 minutes hate at Trump, but Howie fires back with pointed and blistering criticism of the corrupt bipartisian system.

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So who do you think they'll draw the most votes from? Democrats or Republicans?

 

[tehpope]

GOP convention in Charlotte closed to press, portions will be livestreamed
https://archive.vn/o/EbpbG/https://edition.cnn.com/profiles/jeremy-diamond
The dramatically scaled-down Republican National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, will be closed to the press, a convention spokesperson and Republican official familiar with the plans tell CNN.
Reporters will not be allowed on site as RNC delegates vote to formally nominate President Donald Trump as the 2020 Republican presidential nominee, but the vote will be livestreamed, the Republican official said.

The restriction is unprecedented in modern American political history, but Republican officials said they were forced to limit attendance due to social distancing restrictions imposed by the governor of North Carolina.

"Given the health restrictions and limitations in place within the state of North Carolina, we are planning for the Charlotte activities to be closed press Friday, August 21 -- Monday, August 24," the RNC convention spokesperson said in a statement Saturday.

"We are happy to let you know if this changes, but we are working within the parameters set before us by state and local guidelines regarding the number of people who can attend events," the spokesperson said.

https://archive.vn/EbpbG

Here's Tarl talking about it:

 

[Maamtis]

We're seeing a lot of narrative-building already of Trump "stealing" the upcoming election. Is there something going on behind the scenes? Are the polls really skewed? No faith in Biden winning because of his cognitive decline? All his VP options suck and will sink him? No good replacement if they dump Biden? Too many people turned off the left because off from Antifa and BLM dumb-fuckery?

It's like they're already starting to give up.

I think one of the reasons the polls are being skewed is to create a stolen election narrative. Trump has spoken positively of his internal polling recently, his last declaring he's on track to win bigly. He seems very confident and assured. Probably because when campaigning begins proper it will only hurt Biden.

 

[babadook]

Extreme as opposed to Anglicans, where it's an open question whether or not they actually believe in God?

I forgot about Anglicans because to me the "default" Christianity is catholicism: after the reform there is either stuff like protestants/Anglicans who conveniently separate so much the secular from the holy that it can be summed up as "OK let's interpret it this way so we can do whatever we want without moral dilemmas" or hyper puritans/calvinists that think that some people have their destiny already decided and can either do no wrong or good (which is what can be observed in modern cultural discourse in the anglosphere)

And I say that as someone agnostic

 

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Trump's approval numbers are back to their November 2019 numbers. The Antifa insurrection has completely undone the effects of Coronavirus on Trump's approval rating.

 

[CaesarCzech]

I think if Trump wins im gonna do driveby on reddit political subs with.

WITNESS THE POWER OF FASCIST SUPER WEAPON. OUR SECRET BALLOT IS FULLY CHARGED AND READY.

its gonna drive them nuts.

 

[ditto]

So who do you think they'll draw the most votes from? Democrats or Republicans?

A little from both. Libertarians who took OWS seriously and those that believe in climate changes. Non idpol / DSA dems.

Right now both the libertarian and green parties fight the good fight to ensure ballot access and alternative voices are heard. Noam Chomsky has a good article on when and how to vote strategically.

 

[Honest Coyote]

Howie Hawkins has officially won the Green Party’s nomination for president.
His running mate is Angela Nicole Walker, a truck driver and union organizer from Wisconsin. Howie is a former UPS delivery driver.

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https://wskg.org/news/upstates-howie-hawkins-picked-as-green-party-candidate-for-president/

https://archive.vn/uuxUa

Seriously, if you doubts that he's the real deal, check out his interview with Chris Hedges.

Chris tries to bait Howie into a 3 minutes hate at Trump, but Howie fires back with pointed and blistering criticism of the corrupt bipartisian system.

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This is just idle speculation, but what if they try to manage the debates by bringing in 3rd parties? They could try and have Trump vs. Libertarians vs. Greens, with Biden as the adult above the fray? I guess the big danger is if the 3rd parties go off-script and hit Biden with some real curveballs, such as bringing up his support for the Iraq war or other actually progressive talking points.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

As if it wasn't enough for Biden, the females candidates are at each other's throats. I wish someone would have filmed this, lol.

Female mud-wrestling cage match: Joe Biden's delayed vp announcement has all the candidates at each other's throats

Apparently, Democrats just can't play nice -- even with each other. According to this report in the Washington Post, Joe Biden's inability to make up his mind about who he wants as his running mate is prompting some female mud-wrestli...

www.americanthinker.com

http://archive.vn/WfInm

August 3, 2020
Female mud-wrestling cage match: Joe Biden's delayed vp announcement has all the candidates at each other's throats
By Monica Showalter
Apparently, Democrats just can't play nice -- even with each other.
According to this report in the Washington Post, Joe Biden's inability to make up his mind about who he wants as his running mate is prompting some female mud-wrestling in the slop pit of contenders:

Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden has extended his vice-presidential search by as much as two weeks, intensifying the jockeying and lobbying between allies of the women who hope to join his White House. Even some longtime Biden allies worry the process has become “messier than it should be,” pitting women, especially Black women, against one another.
The dynamic threatens to undermine Biden’s effort to use the vice-presidential search to spotlight some of the party’s brightest female stars during the highly public vetting process. And it’s already providing President Trump’s campaign an opening to dig up dirt and launch attacks on potential rivals.

 

[assdick42069]

Here's Tarl talking about it:

Who cares?

 

[NJBear]

4 years of lies and backstabbing.