🐱 Europeans Say COVID-19 Revealed America as 'Fragile,' Inconsiderate

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Many Europeans are asking if Americans even care about their people's own health, as they have watched in astonishment at the world's most powerful country faltering in its response to the coronavirus pandemic.


Italians, Germans and residents of other European nations who were hit the hardest by the coronavirus outbreak in February said they are disappointed, saddened and even frightened by the United States' COVID-19 response. Public health experts and everyday residents said they "always saw America as a model" for the world, but the pandemic has exposed a country with horrendous infrastructure and no coherent public health system.

Several European doctors agreed with their U.S. counterparts in saying Americans' individualist spirit has backfired and led the country to the top of both infection and death toll lists.


Americans are now at the top of the list of "at risk" travelers to Europe after countries like Italy — which placed themselves in a strict 10-week lockdown — have emerged from the pandemic while Americans continue infighting and rising above 160,000 dead from COVID-19.

"Don't they care about their health?" a mask-clad Patrizia Antonini asked the Associated Press about Americans as she walked with friends along Lake Bracciano, north of Rome. "They need to take our precautions ... They need a real lockdown."

"We Italians always saw America as a model," said Massimo Franco, columnist with daily Corriere della Sera newspaper. "But with this virus we've discovered a country that is very fragile, with bad infrastructure and a public health system that is nonexistent."



Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza, one of the country's top public health officials, outright condemned President Donald Trump and Washington lawmakers' response to the virus as "wrong." Italy now sees about 150 to 300 new cases nationwide each day, down from the 6,500 daily the country recorded on March 21. In the U.S., there are about 54,000 new cases a day — which is a higher number proportionally when its larger population is factored into consideration.


As of Sunday, the U.S. now has a world-record 5 million confirmed coronavirus infections amid a politicized debate over face masks and health precautions, which has incredulous Europeans questioning the country's leadership on the international stage.

"Had the medical professionals been allowed to operate in the States, you would have belatedly gotten to a point of getting to grips with this back in March," said Scott Lucas, professor at the University of Birmingham in England. "But of course, the medical and public health professionals were not allowed to proceed unchecked," referencing Trump's undercutting of his administration's own public health experts.


Doctors throughout Italy, where the virus killed more than 35,000 people and ravaged towns between late February and April, say the country's strict nationwide lockdown was a major factor in beating back its spread. Additionally, Italian government officials on both the national and local levels worked primarily in lockstep as they conducted widespread testing, robust contact tracing and a slow process of reopening.


"If you are in Florida and you hear your governor saying something, and then the governor in New York is saying the opposite, it's really difficult. In Italy, it was just one voice," said Dr. Roberto Cosentini, head of an emergency medicine unit at the Papa Giovanni XXIII Hospital in Bergamo, Italy, as reported by NBC News.

Newsweek reached out to the Italian and German embassies in Washington for any additional remarks as well as the White House Sunday morning.
 
Nothing is more embarrassing or sad than eurotrash thinking their opinions hold any water when talking about the pinnacle of human achievement that is The United States of America. Let me know when Italy or Germany has a flag on another celestial body. Faggots can't even land on the moon, what makes them believe that they are even in a position to speak about us? It would be like considering the feelings of an ant colony as you drive over it with your car.

How are you going to talk shit when you drive a Fiat Panda? Imagine listening to someone who has a 1.5L engine or even worse: someone who unironically uses public transportation.
 
When did all of the responsibility for the Covid response, good or bad, automagically fall completely and entirely on Trump, as if nobody else in the United States had agency in responding to Covid other than him? Why is it that leaving it up to the states to respond according to their own individual needs and/or tastes is still a "failure" of Trump, as if states don't have any agency, responsibility, or authority of their own. It's fucking lunatic.
 
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So, by your logic, Trump automatically is not responsible for the outcome of his own policy of letting states do what they want because it's then the state's responsibility? His policy was to let the states do their thing and it resulted in 162k+ dead. That is his responsibility.

I know you're a troll, though, so not sure why I am wasting my time.
Yes. Even with every single other government entity ceding power to the Executive for decades, he doesn’t have the authority to do what you’re claiming.
Trump actually tried to shut down travel between the USA and China. The media called him racist
And that is actually within his power despite what the larping wrestler might think.
 
Ask the Congolese or Micronesians.
how are they relevant?

You also have a reputation for going far on one side, and then going full retard towards the other side (ie your behavior in the covidiot thread). You're a troll.

But either way, Trump's plan lead to 162k+ dead Americans. That's on him.
to be honest, even with that mess up he'll probably still get re-elected. remember during the Bush Years, how much of a disaster the Iraq War and the response to Hurricane Katrina was yet was still re-elected in 2004

Nothing is more embarrassing or sad than eurotrash thinking their opinions hold any water when talking about the pinnacle of human achievement that is The United States of America. Let me know when Italy or Germany has a flag on another celestial body. Faggots can't even land on the moon, what makes them believe that they are even in a position to speak about us? It would be like considering the feelings of an ant colony as you drive over it with your car.

How are you going to talk shit when you drive a Fiat Panda? Imagine listening to someone who has a 1.5L engine or even worse: someone who unironically uses public transportation.
I'll admit, Americans can get annoying. But Europeans are far worse and have an air of smugness. Also, where were these Europeans when at the very beginning, Italy was suffering very badly from Corona. They awfully silent back then, but now that it is USA, then they come out and open their mouths
 
how are they relevant?
Because the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Federated States of Micronesia aren't the only gopolitical entities in their respective geographic regions (the Congo and Micronesia), yet we do not call Congolese as "Democratic Republicans" or Micronesians as "Federated Statesians".

The USA falls into the same category. "United Statesian" is just dumb.

And yes, public health is more important than individual rights.
A bit hypocritical of you to go around calling people fascists, then.
 
Totally off topic, but Micronesia is actually an "Associated State" in the USA. We just didn't make it a state because it's been at 50 for nearly a hundred years, why incorporate a new one now?
 
There's some hysterical irony wanting Trump to be more hamfisted dealing with COVID, in which doing so would violate the 10th amendment and would be more "fascist", whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean these days the proper term is authoritarian, than arresting dumbfucks for attempted arson on federal property.
 
There's some hysterical irony wanting Trump to be more hamfisted dealing with COVID, in which doing so would violate the 10th amendment and would be more "fascist", whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean these days the proper term is authoritarian, than arresting dumbfucks for attempted arson on federal property.
Telling people "wear masks" isn't as authoritarian as arresting protesters.
 
But either way, Trump's plan lead to 162k+ dead Americans. That's on him.

Aww but APC said I get some credit too!

Telling people "wear masks" isn't as authoritarian as arresting protesters.

I'm pretty sure my state government is telling people to wear masks. And so is everyone else's. Do we need to be told twice for it to work or is Trump super special so we listen extra hard?
 
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Telling people "wear masks" isn't as authoritarian as arresting protesters.
First a crime is a crime and crime should be punished. Boo-hoo, don't attempt arson and actually protest peacefully and people will let it slide. They don't so they get what they get. It comes as a shock but we don't hear about the Feds randomly stuffing people into vans anymore now that the protesters stopped trying to light the courthouse on fire. Funny how that works eh?

And secondly, the federal government already outlines the use of masks as a basic guideline for prevention. That's as much as the feds can do aside from coordinating logistics and data because the real power to deal with pandemic is in the hand of the states, no matter how much you bitch that Trump does nothing. The 10th Amendment is a powerful thing and somehow, despite the shit response from certain governors, the virus' impact in America has and still is, minimal. Over 5 million infected, 160 thousand dead. Looks like a lot till you remember there are 300 million people in this country so, so far, I think the COVID response has been sufficient and there's no need to be so damn anal about it now. Especially after the protests within the last two months proving that it's all politically motivated more than medically motivated.
 
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And secondly, the federal government already outlines the use of masks as a basic guideline for prevention. That's as much as the feds can do aside from coordinating logistics and data because the real power to deal with pandemic is in the hand of the states, no matter how much you bitch that Trump does nothing. The 10th Amendment is a powerful thing and somehow, despite the shit response from certain governors, the virus' impact in America has and still is, minimal. Over 5 million infected, 160 thousand dead. Looks like a lot till you remember there are 300 million people in this country so, so far, I think the COVID response has been sufficient and there's no need to be so damn anal about it now. Especially after the protests within the last two months proving that it's all politically motivated more than medically motivated.

Then why does Trump hold rallies where masks are banned? Why does he still tell people to not wear them? He should be encouraging people to wear masks, not saying they don't work and holding rallies where they aren't allowed. Also, Trump has said the CDC was corrupt and evil because they went against him on wearing masks and covid, and now you are saying they're on the same side? Which is it?
 
Then why does Trump hold rallies where masks are banned? Why does he still tell people to not wear them? He should be encouraging people to wear masks, not saying they don't work and holding rallies where they aren't allowed. Also, Trump has said the CDC was corrupt and evil because they went against him on wearing masks and covid, and now you are saying they're on the same side? Which is it?
The CDC said repeatedly that face masks are not effective. At first Fauci outright admitted that he was lying to save equipment to hospitals, and in May there was another study that said they were not effective Source

The CDC is corrupt and evil anyway. You seem to suffer from black and white thinking, in that everything is either one thing or the other. Reality isn't.
 
The CDC said repeatedly that face masks are not effective. At first Fauci outright admitted that he was lying to save equipment to hospitals, and in May there was another study that said they were not effective Source

The CDC is corrupt and evil anyway. You seem to suffer from black and white thinking, in that everything is either one thing or the other. Reality isn't.
We've been over this before, dude.

That is from May. They've changed their stance since then, and did so a long time ago (here's a more recent one: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html )

Trumpers only think the CDC is corrupt because they went against Trump. And how are they still corrupt and evil? Wasn't Dear Leader going to drain the swamp?
 
We've been over this before, dude.

That is from May. They've changed their stance since then, and did so a long time ago (here's a more recent one: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html )

Trumpers only think the CDC is corrupt because they went against Trump. And how are they still corrupt and evil? Wasn't Dear Leader going to drain the swamp?
They seem to be a tool of the CCP, that's how. Also, it doesn't help that officials in the CDC have gone full on support of the Burn Loot and Murderinos while they had condemned the anti-mask protests, which resulted in far less arson, looting, and murder.

Anyway, here are links to a lot of other studies and sources. https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
 
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