2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Polyboros2 said:
Harris was a terrible choice outside of the party elite. With all the ACAB stuff running around, her shitty record as a DA will be easy fodder for Team Trump. He doesn't need to win them over, just make them not want to vote.
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I'm not saying Harris was a good choice by far but I'll pose a question....if not Harris then who?
 
Xerxes IX said:
Kamala Harris becoming the VP candidate/potential real presidential candidate is what all the identity politics craziness has been leading up to. The question now is if what Harris is will trump (lol) what she's done. Will they be able to bury all her criticism under accusations that critics just don't like her because she's a black/indian woman? The media is definitely running interference for her along those lines. This election's also going to be referendum on identity politics.
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It's a something-for-everyone ticket.

Did you want a female POC? Tell yourself you're voting for Harris.
Did you not want Harris? Tell yourself you're voting for Biden.

Want a strong young candidate for the future? Vote for Harris.
Want a soft return to the "good old days" of Obama? Vote for Biden.

Want a solution to the riots? Vote for the Top Cop.
Want a solution for Covid? Vote for Guy Who Helped Guy Who Cured H1N1

Want anyone but Trump? We got two of those!
Want Bernie or Warren specficially? lol get fucked you're VoteBlueNoMatterWho already

They're the perfect pair for plausible deniability. If Trump wrecks Biden, they can say "oh that's fine Harris is the real candidate". If Trump wrecks Harris, they can say "oh that's fine she's just the VP, Biden is the real candidate". It's a strategy based on self-deception, for a constituency that is fluent in ignoring their own cognitive dissonance and believing in alternate reality.

Trump is in the unique position of needing to completely tear down two candidates, not just one. He has double work in a shortened election cycle with early voting and no personal appearances, working against the MSM that still hates him, while managing multiple crises and getting his track record re-written in real time. On top of which, Big Tech learned his tricks last time and is hamstringing him and his followers unlike 4 years ago.

If he pulls it off, it'll be a bigger accomplishment than last time.
 
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I saw something that Twitter popped Babylon Bee?
 
I'm currently subjecting myself to the 2020 DNC livestream. The funniest thing is that the Democrats' official livestream of the convention is having more dislikes than likes.
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And the livestream chat was so pro-Trump that they had to disable their chatroom.
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The Democratic National Convention also had a couple of slip-ups. They were also trying to parade supposedly lifelong Republicans who are gonna vote for Biden, and a couple of former Trump voters who are gonna vote for Biden. I have my doubts that they're actually legitimate Republicans though.
 
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If Trump loses, I'm not sure if I'll be voting for a long time, at least for national elections.

Trump is the first time in decades we had a major presidential candidate that actually broke from the crowd and tried to do something different from what we came to expect from neoconservatives and neoliberals. Between a booming economy until COVID-19, brokering peace deals between UAE and Israel as well as USA and Korea, reforming the criminal justice system, playing a role in dismantling ISIS and killing Al-Baghdadi, and standing up to China, he has done better than arguably any president since Eisenhower. This is the most invested I have ever been in an election and it is because there is so much on the line.

If Trump wins, things might get better in a long run, the apoliticals/right may have opportunity to start obtaining power in culture again, and the Republican party will change in a way that reflects what voters want out of a populist environment. If he loses though, it's - unfortunately - back to business as usual. The left strengthen their hold on cultural power, things will get worse for those not part of the progressive stack, and we end up in a cycle of an expected, but not wanted woke neoliberal candidate that will inevitably win two terms because the media says they will. The neoconservatives will collapse but when they are practically the same as a neoliberal anyway, they're just going to move to the Democratic party anway. At best, the Republicans will be controlled opposition.

Unlike many people, I'm not voting for candidates who will make my life worse just because I hate the other side more. If none of the candidates provides me with anything to support, I will just sit out until a decent one arrives. That's what I did in 2016 when I chose not to vote and that is what I expect to do in 2024 if Biden/Harris becomes the next administration. All of the other parties - including Libertarians - have gone woke anyway so why bother supporting dignified losers? It would be more productive to support any resistance that might form to challenge to a uniparty Democratic establishment, even if I have to go underground to do it.

Not trying to say we're doomed if Trump loses 2020, but I don't feel like voting for the lesser of two evils when both will fuck you sideways on the street.
 
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XYZpdq said:
so for comparison's sake, what's the last big live event for Trump pull in?
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I don't remember, I think it was in the millions for the Rushmore thing. But this isn't Biden or Harris speaking, and it's not July 4th, so it's not a good comparison.
 
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so for comparison's sake, what's the last big live event for Trump pull in?
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I guess the "failed" Tulsa rally.
I found a tweet that mentioned the concurrent ratings.

RSBN : 95,000
Yahoo Finance: 175,000
Fox News : 232,000
Fox Biz : 80,000
PBS : 57,000
NBC: 56,000
Total: 695,000

Also, Fox was the only network that broatcast it in its entirity.
7.7 million average watchers
8.2 million peak
 
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Someone Awful said:
If Trump loses, I'm not sure if I'll be voting for a long time, at least for national elections.

Trump is the first time in decades we had a major presidential candidate that actually broke from the crowd and tried to do something different from what we came to expect from neoconservatives and neoliberals. Between a booming economy until COVID-19, brokering peace deals between UAE and Israel as well as USA and Korea, reforming the criminal justice system, playing a role in dismantling ISIS and killing Al-Baghdadi, and standing up to China, he has done better than arguably any president since Eisenhower. This is the most invested I have ever been in an election and it is because there is so much on the line.

If Trump wins, things might get better in a long run, the apoliticals/right may have opportunity to start obtaining power in culture again, and the Republican party will change in a way that reflects what voters want out of a populist environment. If he loses though, it's - unfortunately - back to business as usual. The left strengthen their hold on cultural power, things will get worse for those not part of the progressive stack, and we end up in a cycle of an expected, but not wanted woke neoliberal candidate that will inevitably win two terms because the media says they will. The neoconservatives will collapse but when they are practically the same as a neoliberal anyway, they're just going to move to the Democratic party anway. At best, the Republicans will be controlled opposition.

Unlike many people, I'm not voting for candidates who will make my life worse just because I hate the other side more. If none of the candidates provides me with anything to support, I will just sit out until a decent one arrives. That's what I did in 2016 when I chose not to vote and that is what I expect to do in 2024 if Biden/Harris becomes the next administration. All of the other parties - including Libertarians - have gone woke anyway so why bother supporting dignified losers? It would be more productive to support any resistance that might form to challenge to a uniparty Democratic establishment, even if I have to go underground to do it.

Not trying to say we're doomed if Trump loses 2020, but I don't feel like voting for the lesser of two evils when both will fuck you sideways on the street.
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Do you vote in primaries?
 
NOT Sword Fighter Super said:
Man, this fucking election is nowhere near as entertaining as 2016 was.
Maybe it's because there's an incumbent who's able to (and likely will) be reelected, but there just aren't as much laughs to be had.
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It's not as fun because of COVID, Biden being braindead, and Hillary Clinton and her media shills seemed unbeatable. It was like the underdog story of the century.
 
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NOT Sword Fighter Super said:
Man, this fucking election is nowhere near as entertaining as 2016 was.
Maybe it's because there's an incumbent who's able to (and likely will) be reelected, but there just aren't as much laughs to be had.
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The 2024 election should be wild if Trump wins 2020. It’s always entertaining to see both sides having to narrow down candidates. That said, the DNC is way more predictable in choice compared to the RNC (based off of the 2016 election).
 
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