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It says a lot more that the supposed place for anime news didn't run this story at all. And it was so minor that Variety ran a story on it.

It's just a minor news story and definitely has no possibility of cutting into their main revenue of shilling for American anime companies. It's not like anybody at ANN works for a company that primarily puts out catalog anime titles and would be in direct competition with these companies, right?
 
It has been so strange to watch the evolution of anime here in the west. It used to be pretty niche and the only shows that were well known were things like Sailor Moon, DBZ, and Pokemon... But nowadays it has made its way into the mainstream. We get shows subbed and dubbed almost simultaneously to the Japanese release, which was unheard of before. Sometimes you would just have to hope and pray certain titles would be picked up for official translations. A lot of the time they wouldn't be, but once in a while we got lucky and an anime would get translated many years after having aired in Japan.

I feel like piracy is something that helped anime gain its popularity around the world though. Without it, many titles would be lost to the world. How can one support something without even knowing about its existence? Having an accessible library of a great majority of anime at your fingertips is what made such sites successful. Also since more people had access to anime because of this, the fans would find their way to support their favorite titles. They would find a way to spread the word about their favorite titles and get others to support it too.

It is somewhat astounding that instead of bitching and moaning about piracy that no one is trying to think of a way to solve the problem. Ask yourself why would someone turn to piracy instead of shelling out hundreds of dollars for DVDs. Think about the user. But companies aren't thinking this way. They just want to shame you for turning to piracy instead of putting money in their pocket. But like how others said before, all the companies have to do is create an experience that is better than piracy. I wonder what prevents them from doing so? Even if licensing is a problem to get most anime on a single platform, there may be a way for companies to come to some sort of compromise. The important things to make a successful anime streaming service would be accessibility, affordability, and quality.

It will be interesting to see how this Anilog channel will evolve though. If they can get an extensive library of old and new titles that will be easily accessible to everyone... I'm sure they will gain a lot of support really quick. The quality of the subs as well will probably play a big factor into it as well.
 
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"Remember when Sailor Moon made two siblings cousins? This example is proof that SJWs aren't evil/don't exist/aren't censors/have everyone's best interests at heart and that things are much better now for entertainment!"

It's very unlikely that there were never be anyone else that's a bigger simp than BT.

In fact, if he ever does choose to appear on Rekieta's show by some miracle, Drexel better be on there with him.
 
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"Remember when Sailor Moon made two siblings cousins? This example is proof that SJWs aren't evil/don't exist/aren't censors/have everyone's best interests at heart and that things are much better now for entertainment!"

It's very unlikely that there were never be anyone else that's a bigger simp than BT.

In fact, if he ever does choose to appear on Rekieta's show by some miracle, Drexel better be on there with him.
The thing about the cousins was censors because in the 90s, everyone thought "anime was for kids" and things were edited as such. Also, the first 90s dub of Sailor Moon (at least the first two seasons) and things like 4Kids could be unintentionally hilarious and could even reach "so bad, it's good" territory. The difference between the parent groups and the SJWs is that in the 90s, you could see the reasons for the censorship (even if they were moronic from a fan's standpoint) and they weren't made with a disdain for those who'd actually watch the damn thing. Parents weren't trying to push for a progressive utopia.

Also, for a nitpick, Uranus and Neptune were never related.
 
It is somewhat astounding that instead of bitching and moaning about piracy that no one is trying to think of a way to solve the problem. Ask yourself why would someone turn to piracy instead of shelling out hundreds of dollars for DVDs. Think about the user.
I feel like they already solved the problem, or got damn close to it, with Crunchyroll. A single service where you could pay an affordable fee to watch new shows, in some cases within hours of their Japanese television release, without the tedium of torrents or the Belarusian viruses and sketchy ads from pirate sites. But even before antagonizing their audience with that CalArts cartoon about the witches (what was that thing called? Spice Witch High or something?) there's the fact that everyone and their dog is starting a streaming service now and both Sentai and Funi took their balls and went home, and I think that fragmentation drives some percentage of fans to say "screw it, I'm not going to subscribe to all of these services" and back to piracy.

Given that they know they have an audience which historically has been quite swashbuckling, I think if western distributors could unite on one service (it doesn't have to be Crunchyroll), it would help tamp down on the incentive to pirate both now and in the future.

Oh, and stop antagonizing fans. That too.
 
I feel like they already solved the problem, or got damn close to it, with Crunchyroll. A single service where you could pay an affordable fee to watch new shows, in some cases within hours of their Japanese television release, without the tedium of torrents or the Belarusian viruses and sketchy ads from pirate sites. But even before antagonizing their audience with that CalArts cartoon about the witches (what was that thing called? Spice Witch High or something?) there's the fact that everyone and their dog is starting a streaming service now and both Sentai and Funi took their balls and went home, and I think that fragmentation drives some percentage of fans to say "screw it, I'm not going to subscribe to all of these services" and back to piracy.

Given that they know they have an audience which historically has been quite swashbuckling, I think if western distributors could unite on one service (it doesn't have to be Crunchyroll), it would help tamp down on the incentive to pirate both now and in the future.

Oh, and stop antagonizing fans. That too.
It was called High Guardian Spice and CR fucked up by having a godawful video player.
 
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"Remember when Sailor Moon made two siblings cousins? This example is proof that SJWs aren't evil/don't exist/aren't censors/have everyone's best interests at heart and that things are much better now for entertainment!"

It's very unlikely that there were never be anyone else that's a bigger simp than BT.

In fact, if he ever does choose to appear on Rekieta's show by some miracle, Drexel better be on there with him.

I like how these morons conveniently forget just how different the times were in the '90s compared to the 2010s. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you, they should be goddamn thankful to these companies for being able to bring these anime to the West, and that they should be grateful to the networks who were willing to air these shows in the first place, even though the smaller distributing companies had to kowtow to the broadcasting regulations that were put into place thanks to "think of the children" outcries of the '60s and '70s.

Also fuck off, you Canuck fujoshit, you should know better than anyone that you got Escaflowne uncut in your country while us 'Muricans had to wait for the DVD release to even see the first episode. And "Serena" isn't censorship, it's a localizing choice for Westerners unaware of the moon rabbit that still works with the moon-theming of her name. I'm willing to agree changing lesbians to cousins is considered censorship, but not name changes. Especially since you're totally okay with Pokémon having Americanized names but omg Cardcaptors gave the characters vaguely Anglo names, the horror!
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EDIT: Oh yeah, I was thinking "Anglo" than "Anglican", I can't English apparently.
 
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Ooooh what happens in the first episode of Escaflowne?

Hitomi is at track when she gets a vision of Van and faints. She wakes up in the nurse's office to see her crush by her side, and they have a bit of a talk where she shows off her pendant. Despite her best friend's orders, Hitomi wants to run again and do it properly this time, so they go out in the evening, and Hitomi gets the same vision again, but this time it's actually real, and she runs into Van who had found his way across dimensions to end up in her world with a real (and poor CGI) dragon. Van fights the dragon, and then slays it and gets out its heart. Hitomi, having been caught up in the action, ends up being swept away with him to his world while her best friend and crush watch helplessly (her crush tried to grab her hand, but the pendant he was holding onto for her slipped away instead) as she's sucked into the portal and finds herself on Gaia. (It's actually important we see her crush because he looks like Alan, and that's why Hitomi gets caught up in a love triangle.)

The first episode didn't air on Fox Kids because it would've given boys the "wrong idea" this was a girls' show. That's literally it. It's the exact same reason why it is Kids' WB aired Cardcaptors out of order.

EDIT: Might as well show this off, then. The Fox Kids' opening I think was done to show the abridgement of the first episode anyway to then lead into the second episode. But the show was pulled from Fox Kids' after about ten episodes because of low ratings, so yeah, American viewers had to get the DVD for the full story.
 
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The first episode didn't air on Fox Kids because it would've given boys the "wrong idea" this was a girls' show. That's literally it. It's the exact same reason why it is Kids' WB aired Cardcaptors out of order.

Sailor Moon was also aired out of order here. I think Ami is in the second episode while in the original run she comes in around episode 4 or 5.
 
Sailor Moon was also aired out of order here. I think Ami is in the second episode while in the original run she comes in around episode 4 or 5.

Actually is funny that DiC skipped episodes to get to the Sailor Scouts faster, but the episodes skipped are considered filler with the final two episodes of season one being combined into one episode. (The true second episode isn't filler, but I think it was skipped because DiC didn't know how to write around Melvin flipping girls' and his teacher's skirts while under the dark powers of the Negaverse.) So that doesn't bother me, honestly.
 
Actually is funny that DiC skipped episodes to get to the Sailor Scouts faster, but the episodes skipped are considered filler with the final two episodes of season one being combined into one episode. (The true second episode isn't filler, but I think it was skipped because DiC didn't know how to write around Melvin flipping girls' and his teacher's skirts while under the dark powers of the Negaverse.) So that doesn't bother me, honestly.

Honestly I think it's fine and makes plenty of sense, but bitching about shit from the 90s when this was just a packaged product meant to sell toys and comparing it to this godawful "well, we want people to think about social distancing when watching their Chinese cartoons" and refusal to air a show because it has naked breasts and sexual content in it is so disingenuous it's baffling.
 
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