Louis "Lou" Gagliardi / Ash Franzetti / Alex 'Ace' Maddox / Tegan Ainsley / Taryn Amita / Diana / gothickitteh / ashkat724 / Lynn Brooks / @acekatt - #T R A M S _ C R O W _ F U N D *buys 12 iPads* "Anyone got $600 they can spare?" *spits on cancer patient*

[Sintharia]

The coloration really brings out the bad anatomy. Starting from the top down, the head has the goddamn shape of a pear and the eyes aren't level with each other. Moving to the lumpy noodle arms and impossibly small trunk/ribcage area (taking her hands and gripping at her midsection at the narrowest point, her fingertips would almost touch) we reach the mysterious near navel extension of the body, which smoothly stretches down the rest of the torso. I cannot describe this sudden extension as anything other than bizarre. It is so sharp and unnatural looking, and I can understand what Lovecraft meant when he described things as indescribable and distorted.

Pants are weird. Very tight at the top, but loose at the bottom? Possible, but weird. The right thigh is a lot larger than the right, despite the left leg being forwards. The thighs are appear to be on the same plane, but the knee is clearly in front, and by the foot placement, her legs are on the same line. The position of the left hand is awkwardly bent, a more natural position would be lying near the thigh or resting on the hip. Her right arm extends almost to her knee, being a good ~30% longer than her left.

In short: what the fuck?

So, this abdomen, while not natural, is achievable. It requires excessive use of waist trainers, getting progressively tighter, over a very long period of time. And then you kind of have to continue to use them once you're that small because you need the support. With tits that size, she would snap at the waist if she was an actual person and not fetish art.

I'm bothered by her right arm, where it disappears behind her hip and the hand shows up further down. The forearm is almost grotesquely long.

 

[Antipathy]

So, this abdomen, while not natural, is achievable. It requires excessive use of waist trainers, getting progressively tighter, over a very long period of time. And then you kind of have to continue to use them once you're that small because you need the support. With tits that size, she would snap at the waist if she was an actual person and not fetish art.

I'm bothered by her right arm, where it disappears behind her hip and the hand shows up further down. The forearm is almost grotesquely long.

My knowledge of human (or near human, in this case) anatomy is good enough for me to recognize an unnatural thing, and I believed it was impossible. I don't know shit about this character's backstory but considering the Wonder Woman aping that Lou did, assuming this girl to be a warrior of some kind isn't unreasonable. If that were the case, such waist training would be absolutely a detriment to athletic ability and therefore combative ability. I understand it's a fetish thing, but at the same time, realistic anatomy isn't that fucking hard.

Then again, all I want to do is criticize bad anatomy on furshit. It's surprisingly fun.

 

[Chewing Character]

You’d think if someone wanted to run a grift and got caught every time, they’d get a new identity + fursona that hasn’t been used before.

 

[Antipathy]

You’d think if someone wanted to run a grift and got caught every time, they’d get a new identity + fursona that hasn’t been used before.

He wants to be Big Titty Tiger Wonder Woman Capeshit in his soul. Also he probably knows that the only people who donate are the few hangers-on who know who he is already and donate in spite of that. So he has to be different, but not too different, otherwise his paypigs won't catch up and he'll have no income at all.

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

He wants to be Big Titty Tiger Wonder Woman Capeshit in his soul. Also he probably knows that the only people who donate are the few hangers-on who know who he is already and donate in spite of that. So he has to be different, but not too different, otherwise his paypigs won't catch up and he'll have no income at all.

It’s already more or less been confirmed that he’s on disability. There’s no way in hell that he’s managed to grift what is probably close to $10,000 worth of purchases in the relatively short time this thread has been up. People willing to part with that much money would be giving it to people that are in genuine need, not some lardass that wants a pizza every day.He definitely gets some otherwise he would have given up by now, but not enough to cover all the shit he’s bought. He’s got other income he won’t let anybody know about because it would reveal his lies even more than he already does without intending to.

 

[Antipathy]

It’s already more or less been confirmed that he’s on disability. There’s no way in hell that he’s managed to grift what is probably close to $10,000 worth of purchases in the relatively short time this thread has been up. People willing to part with that much money would be giving it to people that are in genuine need, not some lardass that wants a pizza every day.He definitely gets some otherwise he would have given up by now, but not enough to cover all the shit he’s bought. He’s got other income he won’t let anybody know about because it would reveal his lies even more than he already does without intending to.

An old beggar's trick is to empty the hat frequently.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

The coloration really brings out the bad anatomy. Starting from the top down, the head has the goddamn shape of a pear and the eyes aren't level with each other. Moving to the lumpy noodle arms and impossibly small trunk/ribcage area (taking her hands and gripping at her midsection at the narrowest point, her fingertips would almost touch) we reach the mysterious near navel extension of the body, which smoothly stretches down the rest of the torso. I cannot describe this sudden extension as anything other than bizarre. It is so sharp and unnatural looking, and I can understand what Lovecraft meant when he described things as indescribable and distorted.

Pants are weird. Very tight at the top, but loose at the bottom? Possible, but weird. The right thigh is a lot larger than the left, despite the left leg being forwards. The thighs are appear to be on the same plane, but the knee is clearly in front, and by the foot placement, her legs are on the same line. The position of the left hand is awkwardly bent, a more natural position would be lying near the thigh or resting on the hip. Her right arm extends almost to her knee, being a good ~30% longer than her left.

In short: what the fuck?

So, this abdomen, while not natural, is achievable. It requires excessive use of waist trainers, getting progressively tighter, over a very long period of time. And then you kind of have to continue to use them once you're that small because you need the support. With tits that size, she would snap at the waist if she was an actual person and not fetish art.

I'm bothered by her right arm, where it disappears behind her hip and the hand shows up further down. The forearm is almost grotesquely long.

The right arm looks insanely long because the perspective on its left arm is off. I would guess, if they had done what they seem to be trying to do, that the left would also look as bizarrely long - the muscle at the elbow looks like the arm was supposed to go much further back, then be swung in. And the right is also just insanely long. Probably in part because the legs are similarly insanely long, though I guess sure, it's not really supposed to be a straight-up human. The artist seems to want to position the fingertips at where they would fall if you were drawing a human character in perspective, though -- it looks like the left arm is generally in the right spot if it were in that pose, and yet the right arm goes much further down - probably because the hips and the thighs are GIIIIANT.

But what I want to call attention to here is the linework. The line is all over the place in thickness, the hand clearly wobbles at some points, it's got markedly pointy bits in what's clearly supposed to be a curve. If the artist just cranked one out, it's probably true that they didn't even bother trying to revise most of these lines, figuring that Lou wouldn't notice -- and it's probably true. So good on 'em for making a quick buck on the backs of whatever idiots give this whale money.

 

[Antipathy]

The right arm looks insanely long because the perspective on its left arm is off. I would guess, if they had done what they seem to be trying to do, that the left would also look as bizarrely long - the muscle at the elbow looks like the arm was supposed to go much further back, then be swung in. And it's also insanely long. The legs are also insanely long, though I guess sure, it's not really supposed to be a straight-up human. The artist seems to want to position the fingertips at where they would fall if you were drawing a human character in perspective, though -- it looks like the left arm is generally in the right spot if it were in that pose, and yet the right arm goes much further down - probably because the hips and the thighs are GIIIIANT.

But what I want to call attention to here is the linework. The line is all over the place in thickness, the hand clearly wobbles at some points, it's got markedly pointy bits in what's clearly supposed to be a curve. If the artist just cranked one out, it's probably true that they didn't even bother trying to revise most of these lines, figuring that Lou wouldn't notice -- and it's probably true. So good on 'em for making a quick buck on the backs of whatever idiots give this whale money.

Due to how the image was displayed on my screen, I couldn't see the legs and the body all at once, but zooming out, yes, the legs are insanely long (legs are roughly the size of the human torso, maybe a little longer). I wasn't looking closely at the lines either, but they do seem incredibly uneven in size, and even on the same rough areas of the body there's a massive discrepancy. I didn't notice that the left arm was supposed to even be bent at the elbow, that wasn't emphasized in the linework enough. If work of this quality gets you paid and paid decently, then I'm a sucker for not catering to whales on FurAffinity, peddling smut to NEETs.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

Due to how the image was displayed on my screen, I couldn't see the legs and the body all at once, but zooming out, yes, the legs are insanely long (legs are roughly the size of the human torso, maybe a little longer). I wasn't looking closely at the lines either, but they do seem incredibly uneven in size, and even on the same rough areas of the body there's a massive discrepancy. I didn't notice that the left arm was supposed to even be bent at the elbow, that wasn't emphasized in the linework enough. If work of this quality gets you paid and paid decently, then I'm a sucker for not catering to whales on FurAffinity, peddling smut to NEETs.

Someone earlier suggested that the guy was a trad artist trying to shift to digital, which makes complete sense for the lack of line control. I've fiddled with drawing on a pen and tablet for a while, and it took a long long time to get it down - and "getting it down" mostly means abusing the undo key until you get the right thickness and curve, then doing it again a zillion times until you've got muscle and pressure memory down for what you want. I took a crack at working with traditionals a ways back, and... it just makes so much more sense on paper - the pressure, the look, the thickness. And just looking at some of the thumbnails posted earlier on of the guy's traditional art... yeah, shit, blows his creepy, weird digital crap out the water. He clearly didn't give the lines another pass.

So I'd lay that more just on this guy not being great with a tablet than on him being a hack. The way fetish art works is that you have to grind to get some recognition and skill, get your name out, make people like your stuff - and THEN you charge people heinous amounts for complete shit work that anyone with the most basic training in art would chew apart in seconds. And the best part? So long as you keep doing it, and you take most requests, no-one will ever care if your style stagnates and you never, ever improve.

 

[Antipathy]

Someone earlier suggested that the guy was a trad artist trying to shift to digital, which makes complete sense for the lack of line control. I've fiddled with drawing on a pen and tablet for a while, and it took a long long time to get it down - and "getting it down" mostly means abusing the undo key until you get the right thickness and curve, then doing it again a zillion times until you've got muscle and pressure memory down for what you want. I took a crack at working with traditionals a ways back, and... it just makes so much more sense on paper - the pressure, the look, the thickness. And just looking at some of the thumbnails posted earlier on of the guy's traditional art... yeah, shit, blows his creepy, weird digital crap out the water. He clearly didn't give the lines another pass.

So I'd lay that more just on this guy not being great with a tablet than on him being a hack. The way fetish art works is that you have to grind to get some recognition and skill, get your name out, make people like your stuff - and THEN you charge people heinous amounts for complete shit work that anyone with the most basic training in art would chew apart in seconds. And the best part? So long as you keep doing it, and you take most requests, no-one will ever care if your style stagnates and you never, ever improve.

I'm entirely untrained in art, but I want to learn how to draw and critique art for a variety of reasons, one of which is now so I can look at terrible furshit and laugh like an idiot at it.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

I'm entirely untrained in art, but I want to learn how to draw and critique art for a variety of reasons, one of which is now so I can look at terrible furshit and laugh like an idiot at it.

Not recommended. Most of the stuff that looks fucking ridiculous you can tell already, but man when you actually -know- the stuff, it gets way way worse. Furries love them some ridiculous proportions, sure, but when you start -imagining- the skeletal and muscular structures of those monstrosities, it takes you for a ride (and you realize that they never considered them themselves, usually).

But let me tell you, the worst part is when you see someone with actual skill and ability plying themselves at the crap. It always breaks my heart to see people with real talent shoving it into some weird fatso's sicko perversions, but I can only hope that they stick it out and make it in the end.

Of course, that's neither here nor there - Lou is fat and manages to have wider hips than his avatar.

 

[Antipathy]

Not recommended. Most of the stuff that looks fucking ridiculous you can tell already, but man when you actually -know- the stuff, it gets way way worse. Furries love them some ridiculous proportions, sure, but when you start -imagining- the skeletal and muscular structures of those monstrosities, it takes you for a ride (and you realize that they never considered them themselves, usually).

But let me tell you, the worst part is when you see someone with actual skill and ability plying themselves at the crap. It always breaks my heart to see people with real talent shoving it into some weird fatso's sicko perversions, but I can only hope that they stick it out and make it in the end.

Of course, that's neither here nor there - Lou is fat and manages to have wider hips than his avatar.

To me, comedy comes from understanding. The more I know, the fucking funnier it gets. The more you know, the more jokes you get, and the more you can realize the absurdity of a situation for situational comedy. It follows, therefore, that the more I'd know about art, the funnier bad furry art would be. Worst case scenario: I learn how to make art.

 

[MetalParakeet]

Asides from the $66 fan that @Wooden Spoon pointed out and the trash all over the floor, here's what I can see:

-I'm pretty sure the headphones plugged into his computer are these $55 ones, but it's tough to tell from the photo's shitty resolution:
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-I also can't really tell what the exact model of that red stereo is, but most of the decent ones on Amazon are in the range of $40-70
-We have a clearer shot of the Roku remote from last night, though it seems I made a mistake; that's NOT the newest model of remote, it's an older version. But that being said, he still owns a Roku, they usually have an MSRP of $40-100 and he presumably subscribes to at least one video streaming service like Netflix or Hulu.
-Putting a metal folding table that close to a wall-mounted heater is going to be a fire waiting to happen once winter happens.

Just want to point out that it could be a remote for the Roku tv. I have an idea risk remote and although my Roku tv is about 5 years old, it cost a pretty penny due to being kind of a new thing back then.

So that could be like 300ish bucks

 

[Great Dane]

The buyer still seems to have some interest in buying the character (apparently just that one art piece). Ace responds by threatening to go to the authorities and get Alex charged for 'harassment' and 'cyber bullying'. So much for 'abolishing the police'.

Spoiler: Telegram screenshots

https://twitter.com/acem58/status/1295871866087845890

http://archive.md/GRUOZ

EDIT: Correcting information

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

The buyer still seems to have some interest in buying the character. Ace responds by threatening to go to the authorities and get Alex charged for 'harassment' and 'cyber bullying'. So much for 'abolishing the police'.

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Spoiler: Telegram screenshots

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https://twitter.com/acem58/status/1295871866087845890

http://archive.md/GRUOZ

And once again, Louie Boy, in trying to incite harassment against somebody who objectively did nothing wrong, only reveals to the world what an unhinged, aggressive, vile piece of shit he actually is. What a meltdown.

 

[0 0]

The buyer still seems to have some interest in buying the character. Ace responds by threatening to go to the authorities and get Alex charged for 'harassment' and 'cyber bullying'. So much for 'abolishing the police'.

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https://twitter.com/acem58/status/1295871866087845890

http://archive.md/GRUOZ

"He never sent a dollar amount."

The first message from him is literally asking what you paid for the sketch and offering to pay double it.

And Louis acts insufferable throughout that entire exchange. In order, he insults the person for calling him "bud" as a friendly gesture, gets angry when he made an offer without daring to read Louis's mind to know he doesn't want to sell it, bluntly insults him for no reason, threatens to call the police, called him a stalker, gets angrier when the guy points out he's getting upset for no reason, and then gets angry when he makes the point that he did make an offer. Then, to top it all off, Louis posts it online believing it will make him look in the right.

But remember, Louis is a precious little angel who wants nothing more than to be friends with everyone.

 

[Pinball 2000]

So let me get this straight; some random furry approached Lou and said "hey I heard you're low on money, would you be interested in selling your character?" and rather than simply saying "no thanks, she's not for sale", he went into an incoherent rage and threatened to call the cops? And then posted this conversation thinking this in any way would make him look good?

Lou, you can delete your tweets and pretend you never said any of this later, but we all know that you tried to incite people to harass someone who made a single polite offer. You have shown how childish you can actually be. You really are a huge piece of shit.

 

[0 0]

Surprise surprise, just off of his melt down, Louis, despite apparently hurting for cash, has paid for a Twitch sub to a streamer he likes. And, of course, he shares this for no reason.



And, of course of course, here's him complaining he apparently doesn't have any money mere hours earlier. He just isn't even trying anymore.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Surprise surprise, just off of his melt down, Louis, despite apparently hurting for cash, has paid for a Twitch sub to a streamer he likes. And, of course, he shares this for no reason.

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And, of course, here's him complaining he apparently doesn't have any money mere hours earlier. He just isn't even trying anymore.

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Ole chubs is trying to make DSP cry.
And now he has a mystery wound on his leg?

So let me get this straight; some random furry approached Lou and said "hey I heard you're low on money, would you be interested in selling your character?" and rather than simply saying "no thanks, she's not for sale", he went into an incoherent rage and threatened to call the cops? And then posted this conversation thinking this in any way would make him look good?

Lou, you can delete your tweets and pretend you never said any of this later, but we all know that you tried to incite people to harass someone who made a single polite offer. You have shown how childish you can actually be. You really are a huge piece of shit.

Not even the low on money part. Lou bitched he didn't like the hips so the person took that to mean he wasn't happy with it and offered to buy it.

 

[-_-]

So let me get this straight; some random furry approached Lou and said "hey I heard you're low on money, would you be interested in selling your character?" and rather than simply saying "no thanks, she's not for sale", he went into an incoherent rage and threatened to call the cops? And then posted this conversation thinking this in any way would make him look good?

Lou, you can delete your tweets and pretend you never said any of this later, but we all know that you tried to incite people to harass someone who made a single polite offer. You have shown how childish you can actually be. You really are a huge piece of shit.

It was even nore innocuous than that. They only offered to buy the drawing that he was unhappy with for double the price (so $50), not the character itself. Lou has no reading comprehension